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January 11, 2015, 05:19:13 PM
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Back to the coming AmHash 4 and its pricing.

Difficulty +7% in a day or so, BTC at 270 and chronically weak - I think .0008 is absolute top. Anticipating a dividend of 600 fairly soon, maybe it´ll tank more. Maybe they´ll just call off the issue. Too embarrassing to have it 33% cheaper than the one from just a month or so ago.

 Well AM has generally priced their wares at a price point of about 100+ days ROI (without taking electricity or future diff increases into consideration) so you might be surprised when they set the price AMHash4.  I would be surprised if it isn't closer to 0.001BTC/GH

 By the way, thanks for getting back on topic.  Please keep it that way.
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January 11, 2015, 05:57:26 PM
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Back to the coming AmHash 4 and its pricing.

Difficulty +7% in a day or so, BTC at 270 and chronically weak - I think .0008 is absolute top. Anticipating a dividend of 600 fairly soon, maybe it´ll tank more. Maybe they´ll just call off the issue. Too embarrassing to have it 33% cheaper than the one from just a month or so ago.

 Well AM has generally priced their wares at a price point of about 100+ days ROI (without taking electricity or future diff increases into consideration) so you might be surprised when they set the price AMHash4.  I would be surprised if it isn't closer to 0.001BTC/GH

 By the way, thanks for getting back on topic.  Please keep it that way.


It has to be lower than where the current issue trades. Otherwise it won´t move much I guess.

If the mining industry refrains from boosting difficulty the next period and if BTC doesn´t tank further the shares could hold a dividend of 600-625. So, 0.0008-0.00085 tops.

P.S. I see that Ms. Market took the bid down to .000835 just now. Sensible.

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January 11, 2015, 06:19:36 PM
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Back to the coming AmHash 4 and its pricing.

Difficulty +7% in a day or so, BTC at 270 and chronically weak - I think .0008 is absolute top. Anticipating a dividend of 600 fairly soon, maybe it´ll tank more. Maybe they´ll just call off the issue. Too embarrassing to have it 33% cheaper than the one from just a month or so ago.

 Well AM has generally priced their wares at a price point of about 100+ days ROI (without taking electricity or future diff increases into consideration) so you might be surprised when they set the price AMHash4.  I would be surprised if it isn't closer to 0.001BTC/GH

 By the way, thanks for getting back on topic.  Please keep it that way.


It has to be lower than where the current issue trades. Otherwise it won´t move much I guess.

If the mining industry refrains from boosting difficulty the next period and if BTC doesn´t tank further the shares could hold a dividend of 600-625. So, 0.0008-0.00085 tops.

P.S. I see that Ms. Market took the bid down to .000835 just now. Sensible.

 That's just the weekend effect.  Not much action.
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January 11, 2015, 06:24:42 PM
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Back to the coming AmHash 4 and its pricing.

Difficulty +7% in a day or so, BTC at 270 and chronically weak - I think .0008 is absolute top. Anticipating a dividend of 600 fairly soon, maybe it´ll tank more. Maybe they´ll just call off the issue. Too embarrassing to have it 33% cheaper than the one from just a month or so ago.

 Well AM has generally priced their wares at a price point of about 100+ days ROI (without taking electricity or future diff increases into consideration) so you might be surprised when they set the price AMHash4.  I would be surprised if it isn't closer to 0.001BTC/GH

 By the way, thanks for getting back on topic.  Please keep it that way.


It has to be lower than where the current issue trades. Otherwise it won´t move much I guess.

If the mining industry refrains from boosting difficulty the next period and if BTC doesn´t tank further the shares could hold a dividend of 600-625. So, 0.0008-0.00085 tops.

P.S. I see that Ms. Market took the bid down to .000835 just now. Sensible.

 That's just the weekend effect.  Not much action.

It´s of course highly unlikely but still there´s an outside chance that some of them pay more attention to trading idiots than mining geniuses.

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January 11, 2015, 08:18:02 PM
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Well, maybe .00075-0.0008. Or simply be ahead of the curve and offer it at .0005


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January 12, 2015, 03:32:25 AM
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Update:
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1.We approved all applications submitted by customers.
   我们已经处理完所有的转股和分红申请。

2.Withdraw function of amhash.com has been activated, we have approved more than one hundred withdraw applications.
   提现功能现已正式对外开放,并已完成一百多次的提现。


Very Important:
   请注意:

1.If your wallet address is not correct, please don't withdraw.
  如果你的钱包地址不正确,请不要提现。

2.Everyone need to email fund@amhash.com or alex@amhash.com to change your wallet address.
  如果需要修改您的钱包地址,请发邮件至fund@amhash.com 或 alex@amhash.com。

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January 12, 2015, 06:17:37 AM
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will there eventully be trading at  amhash.com directly,  havelock is not ideal for trading.
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January 12, 2015, 11:01:16 AM
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will there eventully be trading at  amhash.com directly,  havelock is not ideal for trading.

I think it´s pretty realistic. When you have a production model that is total nonsense the obvious and inevitable result is near total  lack of bid for product and contracts for producing it.

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January 12, 2015, 11:19:34 AM
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will there eventully be trading at  amhash.com directly,  havelock is not ideal for trading.

They announced that a secondary market, like the one at Havelock, is in the works.
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January 12, 2015, 01:00:33 PM
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Back to the coming AmHash 4 and its pricing.

Difficulty +7% in a day or so, BTC at 270 and chronically weak - I think .0008 is absolute top. Anticipating a dividend of 600 fairly soon, maybe it´ll tank more. Maybe they´ll just call off the issue. Too embarrassing to have it 33% cheaper than the one from just a month or so ago.

 Well AM has generally priced their wares at a price point of about 100+ days ROI (without taking electricity or future diff increases into consideration) so you might be surprised when they set the price AMHash4.  I would be surprised if it isn't closer to 0.001BTC/GH

 By the way, thanks for getting back on topic.  Please keep it that way.


It has to be lower than where the current issue trades. Otherwise it won´t move much I guess.

If the mining industry refrains from boosting difficulty the next period and if BTC doesn´t tank further the shares could hold a dividend of 600-625. So, 0.0008-0.00085 tops.

P.S. I see that Ms. Market took the bid down to .000835 just now. Sensible.

 That's just the weekend effect.  Not much action.

It´s of course highly unlikely but still there´s an outside chance that some of them pay more attention to trading idiots than mining geniuses.

 I'm sure it's a consideration but AMHash has a unique product which they can readily convert it to fiat without us.  Theoretically, a free market would give them at least as much as they could get going it alone would it not?  You're right; there will have to be some compromise between mining genius and trading acumen if they list AMHash4.
 
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January 12, 2015, 01:14:43 PM
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Back to the coming AmHash 4 and its pricing.

Difficulty +7% in a day or so, BTC at 270 and chronically weak - I think .0008 is absolute top. Anticipating a dividend of 600 fairly soon, maybe it´ll tank more. Maybe they´ll just call off the issue. Too embarrassing to have it 33% cheaper than the one from just a month or so ago.

 Well AM has generally priced their wares at a price point of about 100+ days ROI (without taking electricity or future diff increases into consideration) so you might be surprised when they set the price AMHash4.  I would be surprised if it isn't closer to 0.001BTC/GH

 By the way, thanks for getting back on topic.  Please keep it that way.


It has to be lower than where the current issue trades. Otherwise it won´t move much I guess.

If the mining industry refrains from boosting difficulty the next period and if BTC doesn´t tank further the shares could hold a dividend of 600-625. So, 0.0008-0.00085 tops.

P.S. I see that Ms. Market took the bid down to .000835 just now. Sensible.

 That's just the weekend effect.  Not much action.

It´s of course highly unlikely but still there´s an outside chance that some of them pay more attention to trading idiots than mining geniuses.

 I'm sure it's a consideration but AMHash has a unique product which they can readily convert it to fiat without us.  Theoretically, a free market would give them at least as much as they could get going it alone would it not?  You're right; there will have to be some compromise between mining genius and trading acumen if they list AMHash4.
  


By buying their contracts (or units or whatever else the cloud mining services call it) we are in effect lending them money for new and even better equipment to continue this nonsensical production model. Since the equipment gets obsolete rather fast in this accelerating race to the bottom the yield has to be rather high. The more people that understand this the higher yield demand will be and thus the lower the price of contracts. Given the continuing inverse correlation between production capacity and price of product of course.

You see, when you have this sort of insane production model, over time it becomes a question of which dries up first, buyers of product or bankers to finance production. So, we shareholders are basically a hedge.

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January 12, 2015, 02:56:04 PM
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in case it has not been discussed yet: is that good or rather bad for amhash1?

http://blog.cex.io/cryptonews/cex-io-temporarily-suspends-cloud-mining-services/

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January 12, 2015, 03:03:59 PM
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You see, when you have this sort of insane production model, over time it becomes a question of which dries up first, buyers of product or bankers to finance production. So, we shareholders are basically a hedge.

Unless you own AM1 or AM100, you're not a shareholder, you're a customer.

in case it has not been discussed yet: is that good or rather bad for amhash1?

http://blog.cex.io/cryptonews/cex-io-temporarily-suspends-cloud-mining-services/

It's about time that shut down, payments have been negative for weeks by most reports I've seen. If those customers wanted to get back into cloud mining then the logical choices are AMHash and Hashnest so there could be spurt of buying on both/either which could increase the price.
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January 12, 2015, 03:22:10 PM
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You see, when you have this sort of insane production model, over time it becomes a question of which dries up first, buyers of product or bankers to finance production. So, we shareholders are basically a hedge.

Unless you own AM1 or AM100, you're not a shareholder, you're a customer.

in case it has not been discussed yet: is that good or rather bad for amhash1?

http://blog.cex.io/cryptonews/cex-io-temporarily-suspends-cloud-mining-services/

It's about time that shut down, payments have been negative for weeks by most reports I've seen. If those customers wanted to get back into cloud mining then the logical choices are AMHash and Hashnest so there could be spurt of buying on both/either which could increase the price.

Yes, CEX totally flopped after that big diff. jump in early November and the fizzle of that sizable BTC bounce shortly after. Incidentally at the same time BPMining´s payouts started decreasing until it blew up. So, I guess they could have been mining at ghash.

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January 12, 2015, 04:37:14 PM
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HASHNEST is announcing ANTMINER S4 Market

Maintenance Fee: US$0.097 / KWh

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=921747.new#new

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January 12, 2015, 05:03:16 PM
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You see, when you have this sort of insane production model, over time it becomes a question of which dries up first, buyers of product or bankers to finance production. So, we shareholders are basically a hedge.

Unless you own AM1 or AM100, you're not a shareholder, you're a customer.

in case it has not been discussed yet: is that good or rather bad for amhash1?

http://blog.cex.io/cryptonews/cex-io-temporarily-suspends-cloud-mining-services/

It's about time that shut down, payments have been negative for weeks by most reports I've seen. If those customers wanted to get back into cloud mining then the logical choices are AMHash and Hashnest so there could be spurt of buying on both/either which could increase the price.

Yes, CEX totally flopped after that big diff. jump in early November and the fizzle of that sizable BTC bounce shortly after. Incidentally at the same time BPMining´s payouts started decreasing until it blew up. So, I guess they could have been mining at ghash.

could just be they've stopped the cloud mining (stolen it back) and started mining for themselves. end of ponzi but hashrate unchanged.  ??
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January 12, 2015, 05:32:55 PM
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You see, when you have this sort of insane production model, over time it becomes a question of which dries up first, buyers of product or bankers to finance production. So, we shareholders are basically a hedge.

Unless you own AM1 or AM100, you're not a shareholder, you're a customer.

in case it has not been discussed yet: is that good or rather bad for amhash1?

http://blog.cex.io/cryptonews/cex-io-temporarily-suspends-cloud-mining-services/

It's about time that shut down, payments have been negative for weeks by most reports I've seen. If those customers wanted to get back into cloud mining then the logical choices are AMHash and Hashnest so there could be spurt of buying on both/either which could increase the price.

Yes, CEX totally flopped after that big diff. jump in early November and the fizzle of that sizable BTC bounce shortly after. Incidentally at the same time BPMining´s payouts started decreasing until it blew up. So, I guess they could have been mining at ghash.

could just be they've stopped the cloud mining (stolen it back) and started mining for themselves. end of ponzi but hashrate unchanged.  ??

If you mean the hashrate reported at the PBM website I doubt that should be taken seriously. But I guess nobody knows except the fuker and his accomplices.

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January 12, 2015, 05:44:38 PM
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There you have it, Difficulty +8.20%

Estimated Next Difficulty:   45,965,768,087 (+4.53%)
Adjust time:   After 2016 Blocks, About 14.6 days

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January 12, 2015, 06:05:17 PM
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WTF guys! This discussion has no place in the AMHash thread. Please take the arguments elsewhere.  Create your own thread with a relevant subject such as "Discuss the nature of variance as it applies to Bitcoin" or "Bitcoin hashrate can never be accurately know but only calculated based on the number of blocks found per unit of time: Discuss"

 This thread is about AMHash.


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January 12, 2015, 06:10:08 PM
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This new difficulty and a steady BTC, dividend of 610 satoshi tomorrow.

Wasn´t it like 800 a month ago ?

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