ANTMINER C1 Discussion and Support Thread

[hjelc]

I used ground water cooling.  Water force:0.1Mpa, September run to now.

:shakehead

Noob, if you use well water, dont do direct heat exchanging. You will fuck up your waterblock and contaminate the water vein.


Do it right and do non direct heat exchanging. You can keep your waterblook alot longer with proper coolant too.

Run three consecutive months, No problem, As long as no copper, Only plastic and aluminum, is ok

[hjelc]

I used ground water cooling.  Water force:0.1Mpa, September run to now.

Very Nice setup   drool.   Where did you get the S3 kit from?

from  www.syscooling.com

[klondike_bar]

I used ground water cooling.  Water force:0.1Mpa, September run to now.

Noob, if you use well water, dont do direct heat exchanging. You will fuck up your waterblock and contaminate the water vein.
Do it right and do non direct heat exchanging. You can keep your waterblook alot longer with proper coolant too.

Run three consecutive months, No problem, As long as no copper, Only plastic and aluminum, is ok

I like your setup - very clever use of water, and (unlike seriouscoins concern) isnt going to contaminate anything, other than perhaps EXTREMELY limited traces of aluminum or PVC being put into the water.

however, you could see some calcium or lime scaling of the C1 heatsinks over a long period of time - though it would likely take 6+ months to build up noticably.

what temperature is the inlet/outlet, and do you use the hot water created for useful purpose, or just soaking back into the ground?

[dsheaffer]

Anyone know when / if batch 2 of the C1s is coming coming out?

[dogie]

Anyone know when / if batch 2 of the C1s is coming coming out?

Not decided yet

[BITMAIN]

     C1 Batch2 opens sale now, Cooling Kits are included

[Cryptozillah]

    C1 Batch2 opens sale now, Cooling Kits are included

Nice !

[neo9436]

    C1 Batch2 opens sale now, Cooling Kits are included

Son of a!!!

I just bought 4 more S3+'s, I didn't realize the new batch of C1s was open with the cooling kits.

[dogie]

Dogie is there any way you can help with a RMA request with syscooling?

Nothing I can do unfortunately, I have the same contact info.

[cloh76]

    C1 Batch2 opens sale now, Cooling Kits are included

Does it come with the coolant as well?  If not you might want to correct the page since it says it's included.  Is the cooling kit still manufactured by syscooling or is it a different manufacturer?

[dogie]

Does it come with the coolant as well?  If not you might want to correct the page since it says it's included.  Is the cooling kit still manufactured by syscooling or is it a different manufacturer?

I think collant is seperate.  Dogie found a good price - each one should be enough for one miner and then some (depends on how you cut cords).  I had to get more thanks to syscooling.   

On them I hope it's improved if they stay with them.  RMA process is VERY VERY hard if more then one goes out.

I have ordered a few different things to try out to work better then straight syscooling gear i should know end of the week if I was able to make some upgrades to cooling quality.

I used 750ml on my build, per miner. I'm sure it doesn't include coolant still but I'm checking.

[dsheaffer]

So...the all in cost for the C1, cooling system and shipping (but before ~$150 PSU cost) is $500...I'm struggling to justify this.

[Prelude]

    C1 Batch2 opens sale now, Cooling Kits are included

Does it come with the coolant as well?  If not you might want to correct the page since it says it's included.  Is the cooling kit still manufactured by syscooling or is it a different manufacturer?

Yes, this really needs to be clarified.

[Prelude]

Guys, I'm having a private debate with someone about heating a room with miners. The argument is that a 1000w water cooled miner won't heat a room as much as a 1000w air cooled miner would.

1000w input = 1000w of heat no matter how it's cooled. Correct?

I know I'm right, but this could settle the debate. LOL.

[notlist3d]

    C1 Batch2 opens sale now, Cooling Kits are included

Does it come with the coolant as well?  If not you might want to correct the page since it says it's included.  Is the cooling kit still manufactured by syscooling or is it a different manufacturer?

Yes, this really needs to be clarified.

I think it is a comment about coolant not that it is included "* Coolant: If you choose an aluminum radiator, you can use deionized water with an additive, or specialist coolant. If you buy a copper radiator, you must only use specialist coolant."

Basically saying don't use just regular water.   Use coolant.

[grn]

Guys, I'm having a private debate with someone about heating a room with miners. The argument is that a 1000w water cooled miner won't heat a room as much as a 1000w air cooled miner would.

1000w input = 1000w of heat no matter how it's cooled. Correct?

The 1000w has to go somewhere  energy can not be created or destroyed only transformed. You are correct.

[dsheaffer]

Guys, I'm having a private debate with someone about heating a room with miners. The argument is that a 1000w water cooled miner won't heat a room as much as a 1000w air cooled miner would.

1000w input = 1000w of heat no matter how it's cooled. Correct?

The 1000w has to go somewhere  energy can not be created or destroyed only transformed. You are correct.

Not sure I agree.  Energy cannot be created or destroyed = true .But my argument is that the 1000w of electricity does NOT have to all be converted to 1000W of heat.  In fact, it CAN'T all be converted to heat or no other "work" could be done by the miner....so the more efficient the cooling, the less of the 1000W is needed for cooling = the more electricity available to get converted to "work".  Assuming that the watercooled miner is more efficient at cooling than an air cooled miner, it is a "worse" room heater.  Make sense?

[klondike_bar]

Guys, I'm having a private debate with someone about heating a room with miners. The argument is that a 1000w water cooled miner won't heat a room as much as a 1000w air cooled miner would.

1000w input = 1000w of heat no matter how it's cooled. Correct?

The 1000w has to go somewhere  energy can not be created or destroyed only transformed. You are correct.

Not sure I agree.  Energy cannot be created or destroyed = true .But my argument is that the 1000w of electricity does NOT have to all be converted to 1000W of heat.  In fact, it CAN'T all be converted to heat or no other "work" could be done by the miner....so the more efficient the cooling, the less of the 1000W is needed for cooling = the more electricity available to get converted to "work".  Assuming that the watercooled miner is more efficient at cooling than an air cooled miner, it is a "worse" room heater.  Make sense?

work is energy. 98.5% of the power used by the miner is emitted as heat, ~1.5% is emitted as light or sound, and ~0.05% is electrical signals carrying data back to the internet.

the only difference is that air cooling may more effectively transmit heat to the opposite end of the room whereas the radiator may have a hot pocket of air around it if the fans arnt as powerful

[notlist3d]

Deleted some messages at syscooling. Have talked to them on Skype and through email now.  They said they are making it right and sending 2nd pump.  With 2 pumps I will be back up and running. I will update everyone I should have a tracking number today in China or Tomorrow in US depending on where you live .

So all is looking good right now.  

*update they said tomorrow it will ship

[s2miner]

Has anyone received a positive response for replacement pump from SysCooling.

My pump gave up too so C1 is sitting powered off.
I am at the moment afraid to buy another C1 even if it comes with cooling kit.

Here is my take on C1 
1. More easily stackable  (+) (as seen in the pictures in this forum)
2. Energy Efficiency (+) but same as S3
3 Shipping cost (-) ( too high USD99)
4. Point of failures (-) ( pump, radiator clogging etc.) more than S3

I somehow still like it more than S3, don't know why.

How does everyone else feel about C1 (positive or negative).

I am going to wait for my first one to be operational again before I buy another one.
Or
I will go back and read Mr. Tupsu's comment and link for books for dummies and convince myself that C1 is not meant for novice like me.