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November 12, 2014, 01:48:22 PM
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BITMAIN announces Antpool: Pushing forward Decentralization

We are pleased to announce Antpool (antpool.com) which is open for users all around the world. BITMAIN has invested significant resources into developing more efficient bitcoin pool, especially p2pool mining pool. Antpool supports both solo and p2p mining protocol. BITMAIN reaffirms its commitment to help decentralize the Bitcoin network, strengthen the Bitcoin eco-system and put the majority of hashing power into the hands of consumers.

As to solo mining, Antpool collects all hashing power of miners to its servers and mines as a huge solo miner. Solo server can be found at: stratum.antpool.com:3333, or solo.antpool.com:3333, solo.antpool.com:25. Solo mode of Antpool has been proven to be stable and secure through its long testing period.  From August 22th to November 10th, 295 blocks were found and 7398 Bitcoins were mined. Further stats can be found here link https://www.antpool.com/poolStats.htm.

Features

Pool nodes are deployed around the world to improve performance and provide redundancy. Miners are automatically routed their closest location, including:
  • United States
  • Germany
  • Hong Kong
  • Beijing
  • Shenzhen
  • Qingdao
  • Hangzhou and more.


Features
  • 0% fees and PPLNS earnings. (The tx fee is not paid out to miners for maintaining cost and the bonus for our engineers.)
  • Graphical displays for hashing speeds, income and pool statistics.
  • Email warnings for underperforming miners.  
  • API and third party application support.
  • Support for miner groups, group statistics and management.



We support p2pool protocol

The p2pool protocol prevents hashing power being controlled by one central entity (the pool owner), and has been significantly developed during the development of Antpool. All p2pool code will be open sourced and uploaded on BITMAIN’s Github link in the near future https://github.com/bitmaintech/p2pool. (We hope open source it in one week but don't blame us if it delays a little bit.)  we hope that we can optimize the p2p protocol and network with other interested engineers around the world.

We believe p2pool protocol has great potential, however, it is not developed very well till now.

Firstly, p2pool protocol's total hash rate is low compared with the whole network's, which is around only 2% of it as of Nov 2014. So p2pool's output is still not quite stable. There is a network effect barrier we need to break, then the p2pool protocol will have stable output and more miners will join the protocol. One of the most import reason for this is that there is not a well developed p2pool agent mining pool. If there is a well developed agent as the p2p.antpool.com, the total hashrate of p2pool will be significantly increased.

Secondly, the protocol of p2pool network is already optimized a lot, but for average miners, it is not as efficient as it could be, especially for some low bandwidth miners, whom will not be affected if they are connected to a normal solo mining pool. We hope our efforts will help the community feel easier to set up p2pool mining nodes running with high efficiency.

If p2pool protocol can provide a more stable output, and the code is published, we hope that there will be more and more independent p2pool mining nodes around the world. There are lots of enterprise level miners around the world. I think it will be in the best interest for themselves to run their own p2pool mining nodes, if we can develop it into a convenient, reliable and efficient tools.

Forum & Ticket System

Users are able to access to Antpool with their BITMAIN account. The log in and ticket system is unified across all BITMAIN services, which allows communication and support to be more efficient. Miners now can buy mining rigs from bitmaintech.com and chose hosting service at Umisoo and mine at antpool.com.

Your feedback is important for us to develop and improve our products.
Ticket page: support.bitmain.com
Forum Page: forum.bitmain.com


P.S. xlc1985 and ktzhan is one of the core developers of antpool.







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BITMAIN announces Antpool: Pushing forward Decentralization

We are pleased to announce Antpool (antpool.com) which is open for users all around the world. BITMAIN has invested significant resources into developing a bitcoin pool based on the p2pool mining protocol. BITMAIN reaffirms its commitment to help decentralize the Bitcoin network, strengthen the Bitcoin eco-system and put the majority of hashing power into the hands of consumers.

The p2pool protocol prevents hashing power being controlled by one central entity (the pool owner), and has been significantly developed during the development of Antpool. All p2pool code will be open sourced and uploaded on BITMAIN’s Github link this week https://github.com/bitmaintech/p2pool. Antpool supports solo mining as well.

Antpool has been proven to be stable and secure through its long testing period.  From August 22th to November 10th, 295 blocks were found and 7398 Bitcoins were mined. Further stats can be found here link https://www.antpool.com/poolStats.htm.

Antpool can be found at antpool.com, while miners now can connect at stratum.antpool.com:3333 for pooled mining, and will be able to connect at p2p.antpool.com:3333 for p2p mining this week. Pool nodes are deployed around the world to improve performance and provide redundancy. Miners are automatically routed their closest location, including:

    United States
    Germany
    Hong Kong
    Beijing
    Shenzhen
    Qingdao
    Hangzhou and more.



Features

    0% fees and PPLNS earnings.
    Graphical displays for hashing speeds, income and pool statistics.
    Email warnings for underperforming miners.  
    API and third party application support.
    Support for miner groups, group statistics and management.


Forum & Ticket System
Users are able to access to Antpool with their BITMAIN account. The log in and ticket system is unified across all BITMAIN services, which allows communication and support to be more efficient. Miners now can buy mining rigs from bitmaintech.com and chose hosting service at Umisoo and mine at antpool.com.

Your feedback is important for us to develop and improve our products.
Ticket page: support.bitmain.com
Forum Page: forum.bitmain.com


R&D team members who are providing supports in this thread:

    ktzhan
    xlc1985


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November 12, 2014, 02:17:51 PM
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Now then.....this is interesting  Smiley

Can you tell me what programming language your new p2pool code is made with?

Thanks  Smiley

Edit: Looking at the git repo - it's python again.......... Angry

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Is this connected to the regular p2pool network or your own p2pool like network?

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November 12, 2014, 02:25:44 PM
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Now then.....this is interesting  Smiley

Can you tell me what programming language your new p2pool code is made with?

Thanks  Smiley

Edit: Looking at the git repo - it's python again.......... Angry

The repo still has the old stuff.  The new code is not there yet.

Sounds like a totally separate p2p network and not connected to p2pool.
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November 12, 2014, 02:30:32 PM
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Now then.....this is interesting  Smiley

Can you tell me what programming language your new p2pool code is made with?

Thanks  Smiley

Edit: Looking at the git repo - it's python again.......... Angry

The repo still has the old stuff.  The new code is not there yet.


I hope you're right, I grow weary of this slooooow python stuff...... Wink

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November 12, 2014, 02:31:52 PM
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If this is a totally separate p2pool like network but miners connect to Bitmain's servers only to mine on it, then they get the worst of all worlds: They get the increased work loss of frequent restarts, they get the high diff shares that will prevent them getting paid consistently unless they have very large hashrates, and there is no actual decentralisation since they'll be mining at a centralised pool created by bitmain that just happens to use the p2pool code for its backend but isn't really p2peer.

If all of the above is true, then bitmain has tried to cash in on the decentralisation concept by paying homage to the idea using p2pool without actually understanding it.

Fail.

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If this is a totally separate p2p like network but miners connect to Bitmain's servers only to mine on it, then they get the worst of all worlds: They get the increased work loss of frequent restarts, they get the high diff shares that will prevent them getting paid consistently unless they have very large hashrates, and there is no actual decentralisation since they'll be mining at a centralised pool created by bitmain that just happens to use the p2pool code for its backend but isn't really p2peer.

If all of the above is true, then bitmain has tried to cash in on the decentralisation concept by paying homage to the idea using p2pool without actually understanding it.

Fail.

I read it as they are offering both p2p for miners to run their own nodes, and "pools" that Bitmain manages.  They say miners can now connect to their pools, and soon will be able to run p2p, and the code will be published within a week.  If you check the hashrate distribution, antpool already has 5%, compared to p2pool's 2%, so if people switch over, that will get us to 7% to start.  Just my assumptions and 2 cents.
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Some clarity is required here please Bitmain.......

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November 12, 2014, 02:41:35 PM
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Open source? Grin and BITMAIN - this is a bad joke. Right?
Any way we all know that most of you will go where you think the most profitable place is. But it will turn out that it might be your biggest mistake folks Wink
At the end the community is driven by pure greed with 0% understanding what is going on in technical terms. I am sorry to say that folks, but  with such behavior it will maximize BITMAIN profits. And your loss also Lips sealed

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November 12, 2014, 02:54:48 PM
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I'm willing to give Bitmain the benefit of doubt ATM, but I too would like to see some clarity on the situation, as others have asked previously.

And please Bitmain, can we keep this thread free of dogie poop?

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I'm willing to give Bitmain the benefit of doubt ATM, but I too would like to see some clarity on the situation, as others have asked previously.

And please Bitmain, can we keep this thread free of dogie poop?

Ta  Smiley
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It is clear that Bitmain  wants a share from his sold miners speaking bulshit that is how i see things. And i do not need a crystal ball for this. Use your heads folks that is all

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If this is a totally separate p2p like network but miners connect to Bitmain's servers only to mine on it, then they get the worst of all worlds: They get the increased work loss of frequent restarts, they get the high diff shares that will prevent them getting paid consistently unless they have very large hashrates, and there is no actual decentralisation since they'll be mining at a centralised pool created by bitmain that just happens to use the p2pool code for its backend but isn't really p2peer.

If all of the above is true, then bitmain has tried to cash in on the decentralisation concept by paying homage to the idea using p2pool without actually understanding it.

Fail.

I read it as they are offering both p2p for miners to run their own nodes, and "pools" that Bitmain manages.  They say miners can now connect to their pools, and soon will be able to run p2p, and the code will be published within a week.  If you check the hashrate distribution, antpool already has 5%, compared to p2pool's 2%, so if people switch over, that will get us to 7% to start.  Just my assumptions and 2 cents.


Antpool supports solo mining and p2p mining, and p2p mining will be online this week as we stated in this announcement


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What? Who are you with zero posts registered 07 May 2013?

@ Bitmain: Can you confirm this member & clarify the questions asked please?

Thanks.

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What? Who are you with zero posts?

@ Bitmain: Can you confirm this member & clarify the questions asked please?

Thanks.

Development of the BITMAIN AntPool team is dedicated to mine pool, and provide quality service for the miners to mine, we support solo and P2Pool in two ways, through continuous improvement of solo has been optimized for the high efficiency, and of P2Pool, we are now trying to integration and optimize, and will be released in a few days, and at the same time, open code

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What? Who are you with zero posts registered 07 May 2013?

@ Bitmain: Can you confirm this member & clarify the questions asked please?

Thanks.
Who cares dude...
Do you know how ti find out if you are mining solo or not in a pool in every work provided by the pool?
Do you know ho to find out if each and every work provided by the pool is legitimate?
Do you know how to find out if pool op is mining merged without giving you a portion of it
if not please do not expect a clear answer even from a legitimate and  official  BITMAIN Customer Service Representative Grin Grin Grin
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November 12, 2014, 03:13:42 PM
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looks different from the antpool that ran last year from august until bitmain went live with public sales......... it was a nice btcguild replica, much nicer. bring that back bitmain!
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I concur......


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What? Who are you with zero posts?

@ Bitmain: Can you confirm this member & clarify the questions asked please?

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Sorry xlc1985, but until Bitmain confirms your identity, nobody will take much notice of you.....

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If this is a totally separate p2pool like network but miners connect to Bitmain's servers only to mine on it, then they get the worst of all worlds: They get the increased work loss of frequent restarts, they get the high diff shares that will prevent them getting paid consistently unless they have very large hashrates, and there is no actual decentralisation since they'll be mining at a centralised pool created by bitmain that just happens to use the p2pool code for its backend but isn't really p2peer.

If all of the above is true, then bitmain has tried to cash in on the decentralisation concept by paying homage to the idea using p2pool without actually understanding it.

Fail.

I agree… and I also see this as a slap in the face after you were the first to come out and offer a REAL solo pool … This REALLY puts me in a twist… I see you do so many good things for the community, and then there are the others who just try to cash in on the hard work and investment of miners… I can't even begin to express how angry this makes me feel… Please keep up the great work on your end and I feel that other people in the community will see what you have done and continue to go your way .

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November 12, 2014, 03:24:47 PM
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There are a lot of questions, and very few answers....

Does this run on the existing p2pool sharechain?
Will anyone be able to run a node?
Did you address payouts for smaller miners as the hasrate increases?

What changes to p2pool are you making?

A little clarification would be nice.


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Is this connected to the regular p2pool network or your own p2pool like network?

Edit: Will let you know is what I meant.

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