GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io ION ionomy. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :)

[adipurnama]

why blog.paybase suspended
because paycoin is coin SCAME by josh humero Garza lol

http://paycoinbins.ghost.io

[vObh0n]6W]

ikeboy, whatever you posted there AFTER my previous post, you need to stop now.

Do what I suggested, come back with some actual data you want to share, otherwise just stop stirring shit up. Nobody cares about your sandbox squabbles.

Oh, and while you're at it - I'm still waiting for your in-depth report on GAW's e-mails that you were pretending didn't exist not long ago.

I never said emails didn't exist. I'll do some test transactions and report.

[Paul Revere]

Again, sending small amounts to exchanges is consistent with people withdrawing from Paybase. Why do you think it isn't people who had funds on paybase? Asserting that you are right doesn't make you right, and neither does insulting people. You've offered zero arguments to support the claim that it's impossible for these transactions to be withdrawals from paybase.

I don't have to offer a damn thing. The evidence already was and you choose to ignore the work of PR. Insults? Nah. Just telling it like it is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fTAXVr8N40

I directly responded, and all he could say was "you're so stupid, so i don't have to prove anything". That's not a valid argument. (He since offered another argument, that the transaction volume was higher than usual, but that wasn't true.)

And sending a single coin from an output with 500,000 coins creates volume of 500,000. Paul doesn't seem to understand the system very well, and his response is proving it. The transaction behavior is consistent with an exchange servicing withdrawing, and anyone who knows how transactions work understands this.

Hell, Paul claimed a couple pages back that some transaction didn't get confirmed for a few days, while linking to the confirmation. If you know anything at all about what's going on, you'd realize that's wrong. He's screenshoting pages he doesn't understand.

(If vancefox is around, could you weigh in on this and how well it fits exchange patterns?)

I would have to agree with the last lot of photos , it looks like a standard hot wallet with multiple addresses belonging to an exchange , the top one is withdrawal, the second is the remaining coins in that wallet going back to bittrex or paybase or whatever

But there are other screenshots Paul has provided that are correct , there is a clear trail of funds getting skimmed off the top of the prime controllers  whenever they collect massive amounts of coins and they are getting deposited into exchanges

but the long most recent list of transactions shown can be explained by an exchanges hot wallet functioning normally

That theory was dismissed as bullshit. Please read before quoting a shill full of stupid.

I believe GAW is a massive useless pile of steaming shit and Josh is a useless cunt , What makes people believe someone who has systematically failed for 3 months straight is suddenly gonna pull some magic out of his ass and suddenly deliver products in quick succession.


But from those last screenshots provided, that is exactly how every single hot wallet for every single coin, using every single currency works when withdrawing funds .

now i would say its completely crazy having such a constant and frequent number popping up so often , but looking at the data on the block chain , seeing 500 other crypto currencies behaving in the same way............

Fascinating, yet no proof was given. It is also fascinating that these supposed withdrawals also occurred while Paybase was locked up and no one could do transactions of any type. That alone eliminates the possibility that this coin mixing is customers doing transactions.

Again: Thank you so very much for making sure this gets on the top of the search engines when any one searched for GAW, Paybase, , XPY, Paycoin, Josh Garza, Homero Garza, H. Josh Garza, scam, scammer, fraud , etc etc. Please, keep it up!

[wpstudio]

why blog.paybase suspended
because paycoin is coin SCAME by josh humero Garza lol

http://paycoinbins.ghost.io

Josh??? is that you??? cause the spelling on that blog is a dead giveaway.

[jibble]

Again, sending small amounts to exchanges is consistent with people withdrawing from Paybase. Why do you think it isn't people who had funds on paybase? Asserting that you are right doesn't make you right, and neither does insulting people. You've offered zero arguments to support the claim that it's impossible for these transactions to be withdrawals from paybase.

I don't have to offer a damn thing. The evidence already was and you choose to ignore the work of PR. Insults? Nah. Just telling it like it is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fTAXVr8N40

I directly responded, and all he could say was "you're so stupid, so i don't have to prove anything". That's not a valid argument. (He since offered another argument, that the transaction volume was higher than usual, but that wasn't true.)

And sending a single coin from an output with 500,000 coins creates volume of 500,000. Paul doesn't seem to understand the system very well, and his response is proving it. The transaction behavior is consistent with an exchange servicing withdrawing, and anyone who knows how transactions work understands this.

Hell, Paul claimed a couple pages back that some transaction didn't get confirmed for a few days, while linking to the confirmation. If you know anything at all about what's going on, you'd realize that's wrong. He's screenshoting pages he doesn't understand.

(If vancefox is around, could you weigh in on this and how well it fits exchange patterns?)

I would have to agree with the last lot of photos , it looks like a standard hot wallet with multiple addresses belonging to an exchange , the top one is withdrawal, the second is the remaining coins in that wallet going back to bittrex or paybase or whatever

But there are other screenshots Paul has provided that are correct , there is a clear trail of funds getting skimmed off the top of the prime controllers  whenever they collect massive amounts of coins and they are getting deposited into exchanges

but the long most recent list of transactions shown can be explained by an exchanges hot wallet functioning normally

That theory was dismissed as bullshit. Please read before quoting a shill full of stupid.

I believe GAW is a massive useless pile of steaming shit and Josh is a useless cunt , What makes people believe someone who has systematically failed for 3 months straight is suddenly gonna pull some magic out of his ass and suddenly deliver products in quick succession.


But from those last screenshots provided, that is exactly how every single hot wallet for every single coin, using every single currency works when withdrawing funds .

now i would say its completely crazy having such a constant and frequent number popping up so often , but looking at the data on the block chain , seeing 500 other crypto currencies behaving in the same way............

Fascinating, yet no proof was given. It is also fascinating that these supposed withdrawals also occurred while Paybase was locked up and no one could do transactions of any type. That alone eliminates the possibility that this coin mixing is customers doing transactions.

Again: Thank you so very much for making sure this gets on the top of the search engines when any one searched fo GAW, Paybase, Paycoin, Josh Garza, Homero Gara, H. Josh Garza, scam, scammer, fraud , etc etc. Please, keep it up!

It may not be customers .

a very cheap and easy way to mix coins that are not analysed much and are not so popular and active is to deposit them on an exchange , they get mixed up with the exchanges huge pile of coins, then when requesting a withdrawal those coins will be sent to a random address of your choosing making it harder to track specifics .

The fact that the amounts are so closely related (very unlikely to be loads of different "investors" just so "happening" to withdraw roughly the same amount of coins each time . this would suggest it is planned and someone else .

You have also provided and i have seen proof of funds being taken from the freshly staked prime controller coins and moved to exchanges , but just that 1 large picture the one this is about , resembles the normal actions of an exchanges hot wallet, withdrawing a specific requested amount and sending the rest of their coins back to their hot wallet, which is why the small bit of change on the bottom one shows it as being an exchange.

now does that mean its customers? no it could be argued its most likely Josh but still non the less , using the withdrawal function of an exchange for a poor mans mixing service

[Paul Revere]

Fascinating, yet wrong. These mixing transactions continued while Paybase was locked up and no one could do transactions. That eliminates the possibility that these are normal Paybase transactions with 100% certainty.

Again, thank you for helping drive this discussion of the Paycoin Scam, XPY scam, GAW,  Josh Garza, Homero Garza, H. Josh Garza, scam scammer , fraud, fraudster, creep, to the top of search results!

[vObh0n]6W]

Here's some proof that this was customers, at least partially. I followed the transaction Paul linked until it led to https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/tx.dws?474805.htm. That sends 3.21 XPY to PMinemanWoBbpPhxeoV7Zy8kND6nMZJMSR.htm. That struck me as a vanity address, so I googled it, and came across https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:10aSkaqC_JIJ:https://hashtalk.org/topic/31206/wallet-minting%3Fpage%3D1+&cd=4&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us. (https://archive.today/0FT9O in case it goes expires).

So this address was in someone's sig over a month ago. Does that qualify as an "average Joe" who got a withdrawal, or did I somehow make them up or something?

Also, they said they were manually confirming transactions. These could have been from the backlog.

But go on denying the evidence, it's cute.

[jdebunt]

I think that would be problematic. If I were a scammer running CoinStand, I would say sure, mr. journalist, here's an account for you. And then I'd make damn sure you got everything you ordered, same-day delivery and heck, I'd include a small chocolate in the package just for good measure. I would make sure you were overwhelmingly impressed. It would literally be bribing you into writing a positive review. It wouldn't cost me more than a few thousand dollars anyway. The review comes out, Paycoin price shoots to the moon, and I cash out my premine.

You probably wouldn't be such a tool, however. You'd write about how you got the goods but that you're aware that Josh might have given you super-high priority. You would probably even write about the chocolate and how you thought that was over the top and actually made you more suspicious. You would probably donate the goods you received to charity just to lessen the "he got bribed" accusations. But it would still be a positive review, and as a scammer, that's great for me. I just need the price higher, so i need journalists on my side, and CryptoCoinsNews aren't onboard anymore.

So I still have to say that I cannot imagine a good outcome of your post. But again, not a journalist.

You raise another valid point, but I had thought about that possibility.

That's why this review would neither be positive or negative, but more a "actual" report.

With a massive disclaimer stating that "just because I got my items wouldn't mean You'll get yours, but here is some proof that they are somehow sending stuff" (with better phrasing of course)

Just because I'd actually review it doesn't mean I condone the service.

But as long as there is no invite, that's a non-issue And I very much doubt there ever will be an invite

[adipurnama]

lol
josh getting fake stores will deceive many more
https://hashtalk.org/topic/35280/coinstand-update/2

[vObh0n]6W]

Another few transactions, more proof. https://hashtalk.org/topic/35122/coin-mx-for-buying-btc-great-site-imo/4 (archive https://archive.today/fInbv) lists PX1Ct3opkhryYFgcwcNcxtEVeaNWgzJrSY as someone's xpy address.

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/tx.dws?474884.htm pays out to that address.

Take it back yet, Paul?

[jibble]

Fascinating, yet wrong. These mixing transactions continued while Paybase was locked up and no one could do transactions. That eliminates the possibility that these are normal Paybase transactions with 100% certainty.

Again, thank you for helping drive this discussion of the Paycoin Scam, XPY scam, GAW,  Josh Garza, Homero Garza, H. Josh Garza, scam scammer , fraud, fraudster, creep, to the top of search results!

Ah ok ok yeah you have a point there, if paybase locked out pretty much everyone , then who was withdrawing large amounts from paybase when it was apparently not allowing anyone to withdraw unless it was someone in actual charge of it


Even with that being the truth, if someone in charge of the website has put it in lockdown , when they tried to withdraw coins it would look like a normal withdrawal from the hot wallet anyways, which is what is being shown , but yes it wouldn't be customer related , which i already stated

[Paul Revere]

Here's some proof that this was customers, at least partially. I followed the transaction Paul linked until it led to https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/tx.dws?474805.htm. That sends 3.21 XPY to PMinemanWoBbpPhxeoV7Zy8kND6nMZJMSR.htm. That struck me as a vanity address, so I googled it, and came across https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:10aSkaqC_JIJ:https://hashtalk.org/topic/31206/wallet-minting%3Fpage%3D1+&cd=4&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us. (https://archive.today/0FT9O in case it goes expires).

So this address was in someone's sig over a month ago. Does that qualify as an "average Joe" who got a withdrawal, or did I somehow make them up or something?

Also, they said they were manually confirming transactions. These could have been from the backlog.

But go on denying the evidence, it's cute.

Good find, ikeboy. You have uncovered 1 transaction going to a real person , coming from the  mixing groups. Well done. How does that change that the other 99.999% of transactions that go to either exchanges or accumulator wallets? When you are done tracing all of those, then you can work on an explanation of how these mixing transactions kept occurring the whole time Paybase was locked up and people could not do transactions.

Again: Thank you for making sure all of this comes up on every search of GAW, Paycoin, PayBase, XPY, Josh GArza, Homero Garza, H. Josh Garza, Paycoin Scam, XPY Scam, GAW Scam, fraud, fraudster, etc. Please, continue!

[vObh0n]6W]

Here's some proof that this was customers, at least partially. I followed the transaction Paul linked until it led to https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/tx.dws?474805.htm. That sends 3.21 XPY to PMinemanWoBbpPhxeoV7Zy8kND6nMZJMSR.htm. That struck me as a vanity address, so I googled it, and came across https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:10aSkaqC_JIJ:https://hashtalk.org/topic/31206/wallet-minting%3Fpage%3D1+&cd=4&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us. (https://archive.today/0FT9O in case it goes expires).

So this address was in someone's sig over a month ago. Does that qualify as an "average Joe" who got a withdrawal, or did I somehow make them up or something?

Also, they said they were manually confirming transactions. These could have been from the backlog.

But go on denying the evidence, it's cute.

Good find, ikeboy. You have uncovered 1 transaction going to a real person , coming from the  mixing groups. Well done. How does that change that the other 99.999% of transactions go to either exchanges or accumulator wallets? When you are done tracing all of those, then you can work on an explaination of how these mixing transactions kept occurring the whole time Paybase was locked up and people could not do transactions.

You said that zero transactions went to customers, I disproved that. Many addresses have been in use for months, but don't show up in google searches other than blockchain results. Those probably belong to individuals who didn't post it online. It's not possible to prove one way or another who such an address belongs to, and note that what I said above was that it's possible for it to be matching withdrawals, not that it was definite. They could be skimming off also.

And as for paybase being down, which I didn't test at the time, there could have been a backlog that was approved while it was down. Was it down during the entire range of transactions?

[Paul Revere]

Here's some proof that this was customers, at least partially. I followed the transaction Paul linked until it led to https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/tx.dws?474805.htm. That sends 3.21 XPY to PMinemanWoBbpPhxeoV7Zy8kND6nMZJMSR.htm. That struck me as a vanity address, so I googled it, and came across https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:10aSkaqC_JIJ:https://hashtalk.org/topic/31206/wallet-minting%3Fpage%3D1+&cd=4&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us. (https://archive.today/0FT9O in case it goes expires).

So this address was in someone's sig over a month ago. Does that qualify as an "average Joe" who got a withdrawal, or did I somehow make them up or something?

Also, they said they were manually confirming transactions. These could have been from the backlog.

But go on denying the evidence, it's cute.

Good find, ikeboy. You have uncovered 1 transaction going to a real person , coming from the  mixing groups. Well done. How does that change that the other 99.999% of transactions go to either exchanges or accumulator wallets? When you are done tracing all of those, then you can work on an explaination of how these mixing transactions kept occurring the whole time Paybase was locked up and people could not do transactions.

You said that zero transactions went to customers, I disproved that. Many addresses have been in use for months, but don't show up in google searches other than blockchain results. Those probably belong to individuals who didn't post it online. It's not possible to prove one way or another who such an address belongs to, and note that what I said above was that it's possible for it to be matching withdrawals, not that it was definite. They could be skimming off also.

And as for paybase being down, which I didn't test at the time, there could have been a backlog that was approved while it was down. Was it down during the entire range of transactions?

Incorrect, I said that of those that I personally checked I did not find any. Thank you for finding one. That does not change the fact that damn near all of them still go to accumulator addresses, and certainly does nothing to explain why all of these transactions continued even when Paybase was locked up and no one could do transactions. Please, continue.

And thank you for making sure this discussion of GAW / Josh Garza & Co. , continuing to dump massive amounts of Paycoin (XPY) into the markets every day. I am glad you are doing your part to make sure that any search of GAW, Paycoin Scam, XPY Scam, Josh Garza, Homero Garza, H. Josh Garza, scam, scammer, crypto scammer, fraud, etc. will direct here. Please continue!

[vObh0n]6W]

Here's some proof that this was customers, at least partially. I followed the transaction Paul linked until it led to https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/tx.dws?474805.htm. That sends 3.21 XPY to PMinemanWoBbpPhxeoV7Zy8kND6nMZJMSR.htm. That struck me as a vanity address, so I googled it, and came across https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:10aSkaqC_JIJ:https://hashtalk.org/topic/31206/wallet-minting%3Fpage%3D1+&cd=4&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us. (https://archive.today/0FT9O in case it goes expires).

So this address was in someone's sig over a month ago. Does that qualify as an "average Joe" who got a withdrawal, or did I somehow make them up or something?

Also, they said they were manually confirming transactions. These could have been from the backlog.

But go on denying the evidence, it's cute.

Good find, ikeboy. You have uncovered 1 transaction going to a real person , coming from the  mixing groups. Well done. How does that change that the other 99.999% of transactions go to either exchanges or accumulator wallets? When you are done tracing all of those, then you can work on an explaination of how these mixing transactions kept occurring the whole time Paybase was locked up and people could not do transactions.

You said that zero transactions went to customers, I disproved that. Many addresses have been in use for months, but don't show up in google searches other than blockchain results. Those probably belong to individuals who didn't post it online. It's not possible to prove one way or another who such an address belongs to, and note that what I said above was that it's possible for it to be matching withdrawals, not that it was definite. They could be skimming off also.

And as for paybase being down, which I didn't test at the time, there could have been a backlog that was approved while it was down. Was it down during the entire range of transactions?

Incorrect, I said that of those that I personally checked I did not find any. Thank you for finding one. That does not change the fact that damn near all of them still go to accumulator addresses, and certainly does nothing to explain why all of these transactions continued even when Paybase was locked up and no one could do transactions. Please, continue.

And thank you for making sure this discussion of GAW / Josh Garza & Co. , continuing to dump massive amounts of Paycoin (XPY) into the markets every day. I am glad you are doing your part to make sure that any search of GAW, Paycoin Scam, XPY Scam, Josh Garza, Homero Garza, H. Josh Garza, scam, scammer, crpto scamme, fraud, etc. will direct here. Please continue!

You said you checked thousands. I checked much less than that and found two, so if you really checked thousands you should have found at least one.

And even many of the ones not tied to accounts were still used for a while. I'm not sure exactly what you mean by accumulator, but if it just means an address that never sent out coins, then it isn't true that most transactions went to one of those for the bunch I looked through.

And I did give an explanation for why there could be withdrawals when paybase was down.

[maildir]

Without seeing the wording in the NDA, the releasing of this party's invoice from Homero's control, regardless of who what and how, is surely a breach of the that same contract. You have their terms together 50:50 profit agreement figures, cost of goods, profit on goods etc. With or without an NDA, this is highly sensitive information between two companies.

This party should be urged to contact their lawyer and initiate proceedings against Homero for breaching the NDA between them.

Furthermore google 'restraining order' against text messages and cyber bullying, all information suggests it can be valid subject to jurisdiction. Initiate one against Homero, and upon the next text message have him arrested.

http://imgur.com/wvjTp8h

More Josh/Jonah babble about NDAs shared by PRODIGI on GH:

[vObh0n]6W]

What kind of data would I need to find to show that those transactions were likely from withdrawals?

[Paul Revere]

Here's some proof that this was customers, at least partially. I followed the transaction Paul linked until it led to https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/tx.dws?474805.htm. That sends 3.21 XPY to PMinemanWoBbpPhxeoV7Zy8kND6nMZJMSR.htm. That struck me as a vanity address, so I googled it, and came across https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:10aSkaqC_JIJ:https://hashtalk.org/topic/31206/wallet-minting%3Fpage%3D1+&cd=4&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us. (https://archive.today/0FT9O in case it goes expires).

So this address was in someone's sig over a month ago. Does that qualify as an "average Joe" who got a withdrawal, or did I somehow make them up or something?

Also, they said they were manually confirming transactions. These could have been from the backlog.

But go on denying the evidence, it's cute.

Good find, ikeboy. You have uncovered 1 transaction going to a real person , coming from the  mixing groups. Well done. How does that change that the other 99.999% of transactions go to either exchanges or accumulator wallets? When you are done tracing all of those, then you can work on an explaination of how these mixing transactions kept occurring the whole time Paybase was locked up and people could not do transactions.

You said that zero transactions went to customers, I disproved that. Many addresses have been in use for months, but don't show up in google searches other than blockchain results. Those probably belong to individuals who didn't post it online. It's not possible to prove one way or another who such an address belongs to, and note that what I said above was that it's possible for it to be matching withdrawals, not that it was definite. They could be skimming off also.

And as for paybase being down, which I didn't test at the time, there could have been a backlog that was approved while it was down. Was it down during the entire range of transactions?

Incorrect, I said that of those that I personally checked I did not find any. Thank you for finding one. That does not change the fact that damn near all of them still go to accumulator addresses, and certainly does nothing to explain why all of these transactions continued even when Paybase was locked up and no one could do transactions. Please, continue.

And thank you for making sure this discussion of GAW / Josh Garza & Co. , continuing to dump massive amounts of Paycoin (XPY) into the markets every day. I am glad you are doing your part to make sure that any search of GAW, Paycoin Scam, XPY Scam, Josh Garza, Homero Garza, H. Josh Garza, scam, scammer, crpto scamme, fraud, etc. will direct here. Please continue!

You said you checked thousands. I checked much less than that and found two, so if you really checked thousands you should have found at least one.

And even many of the ones not tied to accounts were still used for a while. I'm not sure exactly what you mean by accumulator, but if it just means an address that never sent out coins, then it isn't true that most transactions went to one of those for the bunch I looked through.

And I did give an explanation for why there could be withdrawals when paybase was down.

You are quite welcome to believe what you like. I checked many , many addresses and all of them that I checked all lead back to accumulator addresses. Why exactly are you not posting any of those? And, for the record, your explanation of how Paybase transactions continue  while no one has access to their accounts at the same rate as when Paybase was open is amusing and shows how desperate you are to try to make your scam dog hero Homero look like something other than the scam dog scammy scammer that he is. Please, continue.

And thank you for making sure this discussion of GAW / Josh Garza & Co. , continuing to dump massive amounts of Paycoin (XPY) into the markets every day. I am glad you are doing your part to make sure that any search of GAW, Paycoin Scam, XPY Scam, Josh Garza, Homero Garza, H. Josh Garza, scam, scammer, crpto scamme, fraud, etc. will direct here. Please continue!

[maildir]

 

I own btcfeed.net and after publishing articles about paycoin in the past we have been mysteriously hit with a DDOS attack shortly after. We decided to stop reporting about paycoin because we didnt want to loose traffic from the ddos that followed. I salute cryptocoinsnews for standing up against this scum and we will soon be publishing an additional report about gawceo and paycoin.

Are you serious? Just this Friday, one of your most prolific writers offered Garza to write a positive review of CoinStand on BTCFeed "to rebuild the trust".

Are you serious? It's called "investigative journalism".

Anyone can say this or that, but at least I have the balls to publicly say that I want to review it for myself instead of jumping on a bandwagon.

And to be clear, I don't have a stake in BTCFeed, I just do freelance writing. Freelance writing doesn't mean my articles aren't properly researched though. Sometimes that means going out on a limb.


And tell me again, where did I use the word "POSITIVE" in my statement? nowhere.

To be even more transparent : so far, still no invite.

Read more like you were trying to curry favor in order to get the "freebie". What more could you possibly have written that the first two shills didn't provide in excruciating detail? All of, signing up, browsing, selecting a product, pressing purchase, then two days later it arrives?  What more precisely could you possibly add to that in order to make a story out of it all?  You signed up 4 days before the invitations were to become available suggesting you really wanted to review the service in order to write about it, then ignored, then upon Homero's whining about the media, there you were again, in your what was it third only post to the forum, offering to heal the wounds between the media you could....just get in invite.

That's fine if you saw quick and easy opportunity to get that new laptop you've been wanting for so long, for nothing under the guise of writing about it. Another self-proclaimed "journalist" attempted the same thing bit did it all wrong; he wrote a bad article and back channeled that he'd remove it if he got an invite.  You smartly offered to heal the wounds if you got one instead. Well done to you.

Have you ever written anything about them before?

[truckinusa]

More Josh/Jonah babble about NDAs shared by PRODIGI on GH:

I called this individual out and others talking about NDAs on GH and I got quietly told to go away.

You got called out because you called her a 'retard'.  Something no one should ever call anyone much less to the mother of a special needs child.

I think it was a very tame word to get the point across.  I can't help that she is genetically challenged and happened to produce a not so perfect child GENETiCALLY!  I actually had no clue until she decided to be an ass and bring up an unrelated topic.  It seem to be the MO of the GAW shills to distract when the light is focused on them.  Her constant ranting that she cant say this or that is retarded because the NDA doesn't mean jack.  There are others that have said the same things I would call them out also.  Zen Eric, Nemesio, etc.  I am not picking on those, but those are the first to come to mind.  If you do not want to spill the beans and expose Josh Garza then you are a SHILL and RETARDED at the same time.