GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io ION ionomy. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :)

[suchmoon]

Quick, if you have a ponzi site to promote the new forum is the place to be:

https://mineraltalk.org/forum/general-discussions/mining/cloud-mining/290-list-of-current-profitable-cloud-mining-investment-companies-2015

Well guys. I am here for my lashings. I am an idiot that rode this to the ground. I stopped coming here because I couldnt defned it. My gut told me to sell. But I just wanted to believe that someone that has his family posted every where would not screw people over like this. There are too many crazy's out there.

Welcome, or should I say welcome back. I think you got your lashings here a while ago and frankly we're getting tired so don't expect too much violence

Would it help if I said it could have been worse?

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[tom14cat14]

Well guys. I am here for my lashings. I am an idiot that rode this to the ground. I stopped coming here because I couldnt defned it. My gut told me to sell. But I just wanted to believe that someone that has his family posted every where would not screw people over like this. There are too many crazy's out there.

When you can't see through the clouds you have to fly on instruments I guess.



And if the data being fed through your instruments is false you will end up in the wrong location, like in a river or cornfield or plastered on the side of a mountain. Glad to see you are again flying on VFR.

LOL. Or you could also say that the instruments were right and I just didn’t trust them like JFK Jr. I am now trust interments again. I have no idea what I was thinking. I even reported them to the feds on JAN 19th. And I still went back for more.  

On the plus side Flying has been good.

[ThePointlessOne]

Get the same people behind a project, get the same results:

https://hashtalk.org/topic/35959/mineral-com-withdrawl-issue

[tom14cat14]

Quick, if you have a ponzi site to promote the new forum is the place to be:

https://mineraltalk.org/forum/general-discussions/mining/cloud-mining/290-list-of-current-profitable-cloud-mining-investment-companies-2015

Well guys. I am here for my lashings. I am an idiot that rode this to the ground. I stopped coming here because I couldnt defned it. My gut told me to sell. But I just wanted to believe that someone that has his family posted every where would not screw people over like this. There are too many crazy's out there.

Welcome, or should I say welcome back. I think you got your lashings here a while ago and frankly we're getting tired so don't expect too much violence

Would it help if I said it could have been worse?

Yes it could have. Just wish I listen to my gut. Or at leats you guys.

[maildir]

Unfuckingbeliveable that the owner of an exchange would react like this. STAY AWAY. This is tainted with the stench of GAW.

https://i.imgur.com/Rf6UY2K.jpg

Cut him some slack, he probably has the domain in escrow - that's why WHOIS is hidden. You think some ex-network-admin from Australia just plopped 75 grand for a domain name?  

Oh yeah, "Network Security Specialist" with Telstra, let's launch an exchange+forum with "secure APIs" and no SSL.

I'm even more certain now that my investment is utterly safe in Mineral.

Well they removed the cloak but it is a corporate name and no real names associated with it. Still smoke and mirrors and still no proof that it is not tainted with GAWSCUM!

Fake registration information. Company is registered in the UK. Not Hong Kong. Generally grounds for domain seizure

https://forms.icann.org/en/resources/compliance/complaints/whois/inaccuracy-form

Domain Name: mineral.com
Registry Domain ID: 2469064_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.joker.com
Registrar URL: http://joker.com/
Updated Date: 2015-03-30T07:23:30Z
Creation Date: 1995-09-11T04:00:00Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2018-09-10T04:00:00Z
Registrar: CSL Computer Service Langenbach GmbH d/b/a joker.com
Registrar IANA ID: 113
Registrar Abuse Contact Email:
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +49.21186767447
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited
Registry Registrant ID: 
Registrant Name: - -
Registrant Organization: MINERAL INTERNATIONAL LIMITED
Registrant Street: 31 CHINACHEM CENTURY TOWER
Registrant Street: 178 GLOUCESTER ROAD
Registrant City: WANCHAI
Registrant Postal Code: 11111
Registrant Country: HK
Registrant Phone: +1.4252740657

[Buckeye2015]

LOL. Or you could also say that the instruments were right and I just didn’t trust them like JFK Jr. I am now trust interments again. I have no idea what I was thinking. I even reported them to the feds on JAN 19th. And I still went back for more.  

On the plus side Flying has been good.

I started following this around Jan because it was popping up... until about a month ago, I was mostly following it like a reality TV show... just dropping in to check it out and see where everything is... than about a month ago, I just could not understand why he had the followers he had and started to compile stuff from that last 9 months. I really can't tell if Garza is a psychopath or just an addicted person, but he really does have a well developed skill set for manipulation and nearly perfect timing in his execution. If you limited yourself to that hashtalk forum and ignored outside forums (like this thread) as they told their followers to do, you had no real chance of getting out because there are two types over there. The ones who are there because Garza has assembled a flock of easy-pickings-sheep and the sheep themselves who can't see beyond the fences that they've accepted to be real.

Garza is VERY VERY good at working the emotions of that crowd. If you feel yourself starting to get pulled back in again, just think about that guy who gets a picture of a hot babe, who just happens to need a couple thousand dollars to save her life... when in fact, it's some fat old guy in a Nigerian call center working scams on people. Garza sold them that high that you get buying a lottery ticket (all the dreams that flash through your head), then kept re-pumping that high over and over and over and over again.

Gambling is addictive because dopamine floods your brain NOT when you win, but when you THINK YOU MIGHT win. I can't tell you how tempted I am to go buy a bunch of PayCon right now because of those ads saying that there's going to be a major announcement in a day. Part of me thinks it's a Garza parody, but another big part of me thinks... hey, maybe... So, if you start feeling like buying up some paycoin, go buy some paycon or peercoin instead... or buy some Qora, it's dirt cheep and it looks like they really are introducing a genuinely new crypto-currency approach that addresses the speed and adds functionality to the blockchain idea.

Good luck to you... please don't go back. If you feel that urge, post here and I'm sure plenty of these good people will help you get over it. :-)

[coinits]

It may be fake. You should call him out on it. I tried to follow up to his last comment about me being a BTC TAlk Troll but that fucktard is blocking me from replying now.

Here is what I wanted to post:

I am not trolling and that attitude you present is a by-product of your association with the GAW Brand. BTCTalk has been the only sane place to expose the scam. Without BTCTalk exposing GAW a lot more people would have been scammed.

If you are legit time will tell. It is unfortunate that your site will be a meeting point of the XPY Cult because of Garza. I will sit on the sidelines and observe for now. Now I am done with the discussion.

It was in response to yet another condescending comment:

This is not Garza paradise, this is Mineral official announcement. I think this is enough proof that Garza does not own the Mineral brand, why do we have to suffer from his free advertising is beyond me. If you want to take this further please do not rubbish the announcement thread but create a new one and we can continue dialogue.

We love transparency, we should probably make this our company's motto unlike soonTM. You can run along now to BTCTalk with your keyboard if you are just another troll.

[maildir]

He was called out on it here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=857670.msg11020874#msg11020874

and here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=857670.msg11021907#msg11021907


They're playing their usual games. Can never get an honest anything out of any of them from the outset.

And there's only one reason for that.

[suchmoon]

Fake registration information. Company is registered in the UK. Not Hong Kong. Generally grounds for domain seizure

https://forms.icann.org/en/resources/compliance/complaints/whois/inaccuracy-form

Registrant Phone: +1.4252740657

Phone number in Bellevue, WA, USA. It seems they are struggling with this newfangled transparency thing.

[Paul Revere]

Mineral Exchange™. Transparency™ you can Trust™, Coming Soon™!!

* And like totally not a Josh Garza sock puppet scam company!!! We are soz Super Cereal™!

[Buckeye2015]

https://forms.icann.org/en/resources/compliance/complaints/whois/inaccuracy-form

Domain Name: mineral.com
Registry Domain ID: 2469064_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.joker.com
Registrar URL: http://joker.com/
Updated Date: 2015-03-30T07:23:30Z
Creation Date: 1995-09-11T04:00:00Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2018-09-10T04:00:00Z
Registrar: CSL Computer Service Langenbach GmbH d/b/a joker.com
Registrar IANA ID: 113
Registrar Abuse Contact Email:
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +49.21186767447
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited
Registry Registrant ID: 
Registrant Name: - -
Registrant Organization: MINERAL INTERNATIONAL LIMITED
Registrant Street: 31 CHINACHEM CENTURY TOWER
Registrant Street: 178 GLOUCESTER ROAD
Registrant City: WANCHAI
Registrant Postal Code: 11111
Registrant Country: HK
Registrant Phone: +1.4252740657

Um... that address seems to track back to an Off-Shore Service Provider (as in I'm off-shore from HK, but want to do business in HK)?

[coinits]

Fake registration information. Company is registered in the UK. Not Hong Kong. Generally grounds for domain seizure

https://forms.icann.org/en/resources/compliance/complaints/whois/inaccuracy-form

Registrant Phone: +1.4252740657

Phone number in Bellevue, WA, USA. It seems they are struggling with this newfangled transparency thing.

Yeah. When I called him out he went and changed whatever was there to make it fit his narrative. It does not surprise me that me missed something in his rush to be be 'transparent'.

I think that we have all seen enough to avoid that place.

[coinits]

https://forms.icann.org/en/resources/compliance/complaints/whois/inaccuracy-form

Domain Name: mineral.com
Registry Domain ID: 2469064_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.joker.com
Registrar URL: http://joker.com/
Updated Date: 2015-03-30T07:23:30Z
Creation Date: 1995-09-11T04:00:00Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2018-09-10T04:00:00Z
Registrar: CSL Computer Service Langenbach GmbH d/b/a joker.com
Registrar IANA ID: 113
Registrar Abuse Contact Email:
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +49.21186767447
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited
Registry Registrant ID: 
Registrant Name: - -
Registrant Organization: MINERAL INTERNATIONAL LIMITED
Registrant Street: 31 CHINACHEM CENTURY TOWER
Registrant Street: 178 GLOUCESTER ROAD
Registrant City: WANCHAI
Registrant Postal Code: 11111
Registrant Country: HK
Registrant Phone: +1.4252740657

Um... that address seems to track back to an Off-Shore Service Provider (as in I'm off-shore from HK, but want to do business in HK)?

Here is where Google Earth took me. The address is not 178 though. It is 170. Maybe it is in there somewhere

[maildir]

The phone number is from the proxy service that was originally in place: whoisprivacyprotect.com

Let's not even mention garbozo had his own personal email account @ mineral.com also suddenly removed once exposed.

[maildir]

Hong Kong is a virtual office or some cheapo company formation set up operation at that address. Same as the real registration in the UK for Mineral International Limited, is a virtual office.

Always all smoke and mirrors with these yahoos.

[maildir]

More importantly as advertized, someone needs to ask them for details on the insured wallets, and proof of same:

Insured & Encrypted
Wallets

Mineral customer coins are insured and stored on offline servers that are never connected to the Internet.

Seems to be a running theme with these guys, just say anything with no consequences 'the customers coins are insured'

How about some proof of that please? Who what and how.

[maildir]

We got a bead on you pal. 

[maildir]

http://www.oneibc.com.hk/fees

Total Cost (USD) 299


 

[maildir]

End of the day - the project is a few days old, getting attacked as we are now is out of order - I know you have your personal vendetta against Garza so take it up on him and not me. If any of you want to talk to me let me know, or come visit me in Australia instead of bashing a guy without any real evidence.

what happened to josh@mineral.com then?

[vancefox]

End of the day - the project is a few days old, getting attacked as we are now is out of order - I know you have your personal vendetta against Garza so take it up on him and not me. If any of you want to talk to me let me know, or come visit me in Australia instead of bashing a guy without any real evidence.

what happened to josh@mineral.com then?

Could of been Josh Arza... the company's janitor...