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things like that probably fucked Mr. Ganzas mind in the long run. making him believe he was actually Elon Musk. its very easy to fool your self
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Poor Saul from Meganet threatening legal ... Man there are a ton of sad sack stories some well known names some not. One fuck up after another. I do not know how or who will ever be able to troll through all these emails. It is effectively the start to finish of this company and every daily communication in between. MIME-Version: 1.0
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Completely understand.
Jonah, do we have a time frame for turning this on?
Sent from my mobile phone
On Feb 7, 2015 10:54 AM, "Saul / Meganet" <saul@meganet.com> wrote:
> Dear Josh
>
>
>
> Thank you very much I appreciate your response.
>
>
>
> You know I=E2=80=99m a great supporter but as a CEO of a public company I=
have to
> answer to a higher authority.
>
>
>
> Take care
>
>
>
> Saul.
>
>
>
> *From:* josh@geniusesatwork.com [mailto:josh@geniusesatwork.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Josh Garza
> *Sent:* Friday, February 6, 2015 2:44 PM
> *To:* saul@meganet.com
> *Subject:* Re: Legal Issue - 2nd Notice
>
>
>
> Hi Saul, I am looking in to this for you.
>
> Sent from my mobile phone
>
> On Feb 6, 2015 12:45 PM, "Saul / Meganet" <saul@meganet.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Carlos
>
>
>
> This is a 2nd notice. You know I like you personally but this is getting
> out of my hands. Legal department is putting pressure on me and if I don=
=E2=80=99t
> have an answer from you they will take over and they are seeking criminal
> charges for fraud on top of civil action so I really hope you can help me
> avert it. As a CEO of a public company I have limited control of the
> oversight committee.
>
>
>
> So please get back to me in the net 48 hours.
>
>
>
> I have an issue with both our legal & accounting department. As you know
> we=E2=80=99ve invested over USD 100,000 in Zen hashlets that we have conv=
erted all
> to Prime Stakers & Hash Stakers based on the promise of $20 minimum price
> for XPY. We did it based on the published information by GAW both on the
> web site and HashTalk.
>
>
>
> In the process of making the decision I had to get approval from both the
> legal department and accounting department as we=E2=80=99re accountable a=
s a public
> company making such investment.
>
>
>
> As that price floor did not materialize and XPY price now is $1 my legal
> and accounting department would like to liquidate the position as we=E2=
=80=99re
> currently at $100,000 USD loss based on promises that were not materializ=
ed.
>
>
>
> I need to know a FIRM DATE where the hash market will open for us to sell
> our prime stakers (1,000 of them) and hash stakers (3,000 of them not
> loaded) as this is the demand of the legal and accounting department to
> prevent them from demanding from you a direct refund.
>
>
>
> I would really like to liquidate this position amicably without the
> involvement of the legal department but my hands are tied as we=E2=80=99r=
e a public
> company supervised by the SEC
>
>
>
> Please let me know a firm date where we can trade those on the market for
> BTC. It has to be in the next week so I can keep them at bay.
>
>
>
> This should allow me to appease them and for you to not be out of pocket.
>
>
>
> I wish you & Josh all the best but my hands are tied. I can no longer
> continue. Legal department has dozens of documents about the floor at $20=
,
> the 100 million USD CAF & statements of never less than $10 floor.
>
>
>
> As I=E2=80=99m overseas I do apologize for not being able to get on the p=
hone
>
>
>
> Saul Backal
>
> Chairman & CEO
>
>
>
> Meganet Corporation.
>
>
>
> *From:* Carlos Garza [mailto:carlos@geniusesatwork.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 14, 2015 12:55 PM
> *To:* Saul Backal
> *Subject:* Paycoin
>
>
>
> Hello Saul,
>
>
>
> It's about to happen :)
>
>
>
> We have some cool launches coming this Friday including Gyft integration
> with PayBase - users will be able to login and purchase gift cards from
> PayBase instantly! Our API docs for the 500+ merchant sign ups are
> estimated to be ready, as well as exchange integration.
>
>
>
> Do you have any sales statistics that you wouldn't mind me using to
> display regarding XPY sales, or overall volume of sales increase?
>
>
> Also I can take credit card, bank wire, and BTC payment for XPY. Any sale
> you help initiate I can kick back 1.5%.
>
>
>
> Would you have time to discuss further over the phone? If so, what is the
> best time and contact number for you?
>
>
>
> Long Live Paycoin!
>
>
>
> --
>
> Best Regards,
>
>
>
> *Carlos Garza*
>
> *Sales Channel Manager*
>
> GAW Miners LLC
>
> O: (413)342-5380
>
> ____________________________
>
> [image: Inline image 1] <http://www.gawminers.com/>
>
>
>
> =E2=80=9CThe information contained in this email message may be confident=
ial. If
> you are not the intended recipient any use, distribution, disclosure or
> copying of this information is prohibited. If you receive this email in
> error, please tell us by return email and destroy this communication and
> any attachments from your system.=E2=80=9D
>
>
>
> =E2=80=9CThe information contained in this email message may be confident=
ial. If
> you are not the intended recipient any use, distribution, disclosure or
> copying of this information is prohibited. If you receive this email in
> error, please tell us by return email and destroy this communication and
> any attachments from your system.=E2=80=9D
>
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<p dir=3D"ltr">Completely understand. </p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">Jonah, do we have a time frame for turning this on? </p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my mobile phone </p>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Feb 7, 2015 10:54 AM, "Saul / Meganet&qu=
ot; <<a href=3D"mailto:saul@meganet.com">saul@meganet.com</a>> wrote:=
<br type=3D"attribution"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:=
0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang=3D"EN-US"=
link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple"><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"=
font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">=
Dear Josh<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"fon=
t-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u>=
</u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size=
:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Thank you=
very much I appreciate your response.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"=
MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",=
sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-s=
erif;color:#1f497d">You know I=E2=80=99m a great supporter but as a CEO of =
a public company I have to answer to a higher authority.<u></u><u></u></spa=
n></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&q=
uot;Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>=
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Take care<u></u><u></u></span></p><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calib=
ri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri&qu=
ot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Saul.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal"><a name=3D"14b6375d2a5c3880__MailEndCompose"><span style=3D"font-si=
ze:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u>=
=C2=A0<u></u></span></a></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><spa=
n style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> <a=
href=3D"mailto:josh@geniusesatwork.com" target=3D"_blank">josh@geniusesatw=
ork.com</a> [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:josh@geniusesatwork.com" target=3D"_b=
lank">josh@geniusesatwork.com</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Josh Garza<br><b>Sen=
t:</b> Friday, February 6, 2015 2:44 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:sau=
l@meganet.com" target=3D"_blank">saul@meganet.com</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re=
: Legal Issue - 2nd Notice<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><=
u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p>Hi Saul, I am looking in to this for you. <u></u>=
<u></u></p><p>Sent from my mobile phone <u></u><u></u></p><div><p class=3D"=
MsoNormal">On Feb 6, 2015 12:45 PM, "Saul / Meganet" <<a href=
=3D"mailto:saul@meganet.com" target=3D"_blank">saul@meganet.com</a>> wro=
te:<u></u><u></u></p><blockquote style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid #cc=
cccc 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><d=
iv><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:=
"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Hi Carlos</span><u></u><u></u=
></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&qu=
ot;Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p><=
p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cal=
ibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">This is a 2<sup>nd</sup> notice. You k=
now I like you personally but this is getting out of my hands. Legal depart=
ment is putting pressure on me and if I don=E2=80=99t have an answer from y=
ou they will take over and they are seeking criminal charges for fraud on t=
op of civil action so I really hope you can help me avert it. As a CEO of a=
public company I have limited control of the oversight committee.</span><u=
></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font=
-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">=C2=A0</span><u></u><=
u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-famil=
y:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">So please get back to me in=
the net 48 hours.</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span sty=
le=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f=
497d">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"=
font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">=
I have an issue with both our legal & accounting department. As you kno=
w we=E2=80=99ve invested over USD 100,000 in Zen hashlets that we have conv=
erted all to Prime Stakers & Hash Stakers based on the promise of $20 m=
inimum price for XPY. We did it based on the published information by GAW b=
oth on the web site and HashTalk.</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNo=
rmal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-=
serif;color:#1f497d">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=
<span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;=
color:#1f497d">In the process of making the decision I had to get approval =
from both the legal department and accounting department as we=E2=80=99re a=
ccountable as a public company making such investment.</span><u></u><u></u>=
</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quo=
t;Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p><p=
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cali=
bri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">As that price floor did not materialize=
and XPY price now is $1 my legal and accounting department would like to l=
iquidate the position as we=E2=80=99re currently at $100,000 USD loss based=
on promises that were not materialized.</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri&qu=
ot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"Ms=
oNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sa=
ns-serif;color:#1f497d">I need to know a FIRM DATE where the hash market wi=
ll open for us to sell our prime stakers (1,000 of them) and hash stakers (=
3,000 of them not loaded) as this is the demand of the legal and accounting=
department to prevent them from demanding from you a direct refund.</span>=
<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;fo=
nt-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">=C2=A0</span><u></u=
><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-fam=
ily:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">I would really like to li=
quidate this position amicably without the involvement of the legal departm=
ent but my hands are tied as we=E2=80=99re a public company supervised by t=
he SEC</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">=C2=A0=
</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11=
.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Please let m=
e know a firm date where we can trade those on the market for BTC. It has t=
o be in the next week so I can keep them at bay.</span><u></u><u></u></p><p=
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cali=
bri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri&qu=
ot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d">This should allow me to appease them and for =
you to not be out of pocket.</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif=
;color:#1f497d">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span=
style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color=
:#1f497d">I wish you & Josh all the best but my hands are tied. I can n=
o longer continue. Legal department has dozens of documents about the floor=
at $20, the 100 million USD CAF & statements of never less than $10 fl=
oor.</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-siz=
e:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">=C2=A0</=
span><u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0=
pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">As I=E2=80=99m=
overseas I do apologize for not being able to get on the phone</span><u></=
u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-fa=
mily:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u><=
/u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&=
quot;Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Saul Backal</span><u></u><u></=
u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&q=
uot;Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Chairman & CEO</span><u></u=
><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-fam=
ily:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></=
u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&q=
uot;Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Meganet Corporation.</span><u><=
/u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><a name=3D"14b6375d2a5c3880_14b5eb5944=
b7f375__MailEndCompose"></a><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&qu=
ot;Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p><=
p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"=
Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;f=
ont-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Carlos Garza [mailto:<a href=3D=
"mailto:carlos@geniusesatwork.com" target=3D"_blank">carlos@geniusesatwork.=
com</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, January 14, 2015 12:55 PM<br><b>To:</b=
> Saul Backal<br><b>Subject:</b> Paycoin</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Hello Sa=
ul,<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p></=
div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">It's about to happen :)=C2=A0<u></u><u>=
</u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p></div><di=
v><p class=3D"MsoNormal">We have some cool launches coming this Friday incl=
uding Gyft integration with PayBase - users will be able to login and purch=
ase gift cards from PayBase instantly! Our API docs for the 500+ merchant s=
ign ups are estimated to be ready, as well as exchange integration.=C2=A0<u=
></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p><=
/div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Do you have any sales statistics that you =
wouldn't mind me using to display regarding XPY sales, or overall volum=
e of sales increase?=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNorma=
l"><br>Also I can take credit card, bank wire, and BTC payment for XPY. Any=
sale you help initiate I can kick back 1.5%.=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p></div>=
<div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"=
MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#3=
33333">Would you have time to discuss further over the phone? If so, what i=
s the best time and contact number for you? </span><u></u><u></u></p></div>=
<div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"=
MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#3=
33333">Long Live Paycoin!</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><div><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">-- <u><=
/u><u></u></p><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Bes=
t Regards,<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u>=
<u></u></p></div><div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"co=
lor:#cc0000">Carlos Garza</span></b><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"color:#666666">Sales Channel Manager</span=
></b><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"col=
or:#666666">GAW Miners LLC</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal"><span style=3D"font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#888888"=
>O:=C2=A0</span><span style=3D"font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;col=
or:blue"><a href=3D"tel:%28413%29342-5380" target=3D"_blank">(413)342-5380<=
/a>=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span s=
tyle=3D"color:#888888">____________________________</span><u></u><u></u></p=
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Ah yes, this guy. Been on Homero's nuts no matter what. Now we know. Homero's been throwing around his play play money left and right to keep his brood happy. That business failure BTCLend is all in on both nuts hanging on for life  Hello GAWCEO, New message from VictorVargas: Woot! I just got the 500 XPY. Thank you so much sir. I will use it to help start up a project that I've wanted to do for a while now :+1: Click here to continue the conversation Thanks! HashTalk |
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Baiting the poor bastard < snipped the baiting email out> This is Saul on Feb 28th... I like his response -- but notice that he knowingly got into what was a criminal activity without any hesitation :-) Dear Josh I’m sorry to hear that reply. It is the wrong reply. Let me 1st answer your statements and then tell you where we’re heading from here. 1st, the fact you bought “some” XPY for a split second at $20 is not relevant. Your statement didn’t say you’ll buy “some” XPY for $20 or “part” XPY or for a “limited time” . See attached. It is as clear as the sun. 2nd a buyback of $20 valuation over 20-30 years ? is this a joke ? your statement says “THE SECOND” paybase opened not in installment over 20 years. Do you know the difference between FV & PV ? 3rd There is no uphill battle to show anything. Why would we sell XPY for ANY amount less than $20 when you promised it will be purchased at $20 when paybase opens ? don’t make any sense. LET ME MAKE THIS SIMPLE AND CLEAR. This is NOT a civil dispute between 2 companies, yours & mine. This was a CIMINAL act of FRAUD & GRAND THEFT. This is NOT going to go down any road you know. We’re a USA federal government contractor serving the federal government for over 18 years. FBI & other federal agencies are our clients. So let me tell you where the difference is from what you’ve experienced so far. You can tell HT users, the media & others all kind of stories. You CAN’T tell the FBI. When the FBI ask you to show where the $100 MILLION USD CAF funds are you cant tell them its “confidential” – they will confiscate all computers and documents and see there was no $100 million USD CAF. Criminal Violation #1. fraud punishable by up to 20 years on Jail. When the FBI ask you to show them that you spent the $100 MILLION upon opening of paybase to support the $20 and you will be able to show them only a measly 500k at best it will be Criminal violation number 2. Fraud & Grand Theft. Punishable by up to 20 years in prison. When the FBI interview each and every one of your employees, consultants & executives under oath for potential perjury how many of them will be willing to go to jail for you ? Criminal Violation Number 3. Perjury. Punishable by up to 10 years in prison. When the FBI ask you who were the “thousands” of merchants to accept XPY upon launch you won’t be able to tell them the same stories you tell on HT. hard facts you cant prove. Criminal Violation number 4. Fraud. Punishable by up to 20 years in prison. The FBI will ask you what happened to the HASHLETS that were purchased for over 100 million USD and were supposed to “never expire always profitable yours forever” that ceased to operate when BTC is still profitable. Criminal Violation number 5. Fraud. Punishable by up to 20 years in prison. As hashlets were NOT actual machines they are derivatives and therefore securities. HUGE SEC Violation. Criminal Violation number 6. Securities fraud. Punishable by up to 25 years in prison. There is NOTHING you can tell them to make them a believer. Only facts: Show them $100 million USD CAF (we have all your statements to the media about it) Show them how much money you put in to purchase XPY Show them all your XPY wallets Show them all your bank statements Show them receipts for purchasing all the equipment you’ve claimed you operated Josh. You have defrauded dozens of thousands of investors of dozens of millions of USD and managed to get away with it with all of them. Except we’re not one of them. Our board included people up to the retired director of the CIA and many others from the federal government and military (retired) This is where it all ends. Everybody else is willing to accept your stories and you’re able to get away clean. If you don’t settle this it will all collapse. WHY ? If you don’t settle this bit Thursday 3/5/2015 midnight it will NOT only be us complaining to the FBI, DA, Police, SEC & the whole MEDIA. Its will be EVERYBODY that ever invested and got stung by you. This WEB SITE will go live on Thursday midnight PST: http://gawlawsuit.com/gaw.htmlwe will have EACH AND EVERY hurt party send the forms to the FBI we will have EACH AND EVERY hurt party send the forms to the DA we will have EACH AND EVERY hurt party send the forms to the Police we will have EACH AND EVERY hurt party send the forms to the SEC there will be hundreds if not thousands of claims filed with each of those law enforcement agencies. And then there will be the class action lawsuit. Not for our 100k, but for the $100 million USD you stole from everybody. So the choice is yours: All we’re asking is for our money back. Dollar for dollar. Not a penny extra. We will release all claims and let you go on with your business. Completely confidential. To be exact $98,720 USD Other option will be you & many others in your company going to jail. And then your assets personal and corporate will be sold and we’ll get our money back either way. This by NO MEAN is a threat or extortion or with any intent to coerce you to pay money we don’t deserve. We were criminally defrauded. We want our money back. And Mr. McLain is an amazing attorney but he’s a civil attorney. You need to hire a criminal attorney if you’re going donw this path, which will cost you much more than you’ve defrauded from us. The choice is yours. If you wish to settle this please reply to me. otherwise you DON’T need to. On Thursday 3/5/2015 the deadline will expire and we will take the steps here without further warning. Good day to you sir Saul Backal Chairman & CEO Meganet Corporation. From: joshatgaw@gmail.com [mailto:joshatgaw@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Josh Garza Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 7:24 PM To: Saul Backal Subject: Re: FW: tomorrow's deadline Saul, As disappointed as I am on the way you guys have chosen to approach this (two different attorneys have looked at your emails and were astounded in they way you guys handle things), I am still trying to act in good faith. I want to let you know a few things before we head to far down this road. As we already have before. We have documented evidence that we did buy Paycoins for the stated amount (some even more). Notice that the statement did not say we doing buy every one in existence. Just that we would buy them, and we did. It's an uphill battle to both make the argument that you even lost to begin with, as our company will be able to show examples where you could have sold for far more than you paid. In addition to the fact that we did exactly what we said we would ($20), and we can show that. Finally, we have the honors program coming, which you have an opportunity to wait for. I am not looking to argue with you, so if that's your intent, don't bother. I just want you to know that despite what the Internet says, we are well equipped to deal with defending this, and have been 100% successful. Josh |
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Our board included people up to the retired director of the CIA and many others from the federal government and military (retired)
Oh Snap!!
Goodbye Mr Ganza ...
I'll take a stab in the dark and say this now... There is nowhere to run for Mr G
However...
"We will release all claims and let you go on with your business. Completely confidential."
So as long as he got his money back he was happy for the Fraud he points out to continue... yeah , real ethical Government contractor he is.....
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Poor Saul from Meganet threatening legal ... Man there are a ton of sad sack stories some well known names some not. One fuck up after another. I do not know how or who will ever be able to troll through all these emails. It is effectively the start to finish of this company and every daily communication in between. MIME-Version: 1.0
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Completely understand.
Jonah, do we have a time frame for turning this on?
Sent from my mobile phone
On Feb 7, 2015 10:54 AM, "Saul / Meganet" <saul@meganet.com> wrote:
> Dear Josh
>
>
>
> Thank you very much I appreciate your response.
>
>
>
> You know I=E2=80=99m a great supporter but as a CEO of a public company I=
have to
> answer to a higher authority.
>
>
>
> Take care
>
>
>
> Saul.
>
>
>
> *From:* josh@geniusesatwork.com [mailto:josh@geniusesatwork.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Josh Garza
> *Sent:* Friday, February 6, 2015 2:44 PM
> *To:* saul@meganet.com
> *Subject:* Re: Legal Issue - 2nd Notice
>
>
>
> Hi Saul, I am looking in to this for you.
>
> Sent from my mobile phone
>
> On Feb 6, 2015 12:45 PM, "Saul / Meganet" <saul@meganet.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Carlos
>
>
>
> This is a 2nd notice. You know I like you personally but this is getting
> out of my hands. Legal department is putting pressure on me and if I don=
=E2=80=99t
> have an answer from you they will take over and they are seeking criminal
> charges for fraud on top of civil action so I really hope you can help me
> avert it. As a CEO of a public company I have limited control of the
> oversight committee.
>
>
>
> So please get back to me in the net 48 hours.
>
>
>
> I have an issue with both our legal & accounting department. As you know
> we=E2=80=99ve invested over USD 100,000 in Zen hashlets that we have conv=
erted all
> to Prime Stakers & Hash Stakers based on the promise of $20 minimum price
> for XPY. We did it based on the published information by GAW both on the
> web site and HashTalk.
>
>
>
> In the process of making the decision I had to get approval from both the
> legal department and accounting department as we=E2=80=99re accountable a=
s a public
> company making such investment.
>
>
>
> As that price floor did not materialize and XPY price now is $1 my legal
> and accounting department would like to liquidate the position as we=E2=
=80=99re
> currently at $100,000 USD loss based on promises that were not materializ=
ed.
>
>
>
> I need to know a FIRM DATE where the hash market will open for us to sell
> our prime stakers (1,000 of them) and hash stakers (3,000 of them not
> loaded) as this is the demand of the legal and accounting department to
> prevent them from demanding from you a direct refund.
>
>
>
> I would really like to liquidate this position amicably without the
> involvement of the legal department but my hands are tied as we=E2=80=99r=
e a public
> company supervised by the SEC
>
>
>
> Please let me know a firm date where we can trade those on the market for
> BTC. It has to be in the next week so I can keep them at bay.
>
>
>
> This should allow me to appease them and for you to not be out of pocket.
>
>
>
> I wish you & Josh all the best but my hands are tied. I can no longer
> continue. Legal department has dozens of documents about the floor at $20=
,
> the 100 million USD CAF & statements of never less than $10 floor.
>
>
>
> As I=E2=80=99m overseas I do apologize for not being able to get on the p=
hone
>
>
>
> Saul Backal
>
> Chairman & CEO
>
>
>
> Meganet Corporation.
>
>
>
> *From:* Carlos Garza [mailto:carlos@geniusesatwork.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 14, 2015 12:55 PM
> *To:* Saul Backal
> *Subject:* Paycoin
>
>
>
> Hello Saul,
>
>
>
> It's about to happen :)
>
>
>
> We have some cool launches coming this Friday including Gyft integration
> with PayBase - users will be able to login and purchase gift cards from
> PayBase instantly! Our API docs for the 500+ merchant sign ups are
> estimated to be ready, as well as exchange integration.
>
>
>
> Do you have any sales statistics that you wouldn't mind me using to
> display regarding XPY sales, or overall volume of sales increase?
>
>
> Also I can take credit card, bank wire, and BTC payment for XPY. Any sale
> you help initiate I can kick back 1.5%.
>
>
>
> Would you have time to discuss further over the phone? If so, what is the
> best time and contact number for you?
>
>
>
> Long Live Paycoin!
>
>
>
> --
>
> Best Regards,
>
>
>
> *Carlos Garza*
>
> *Sales Channel Manager*
>
> GAW Miners LLC
>
> O: (413)342-5380
>
> ____________________________
>
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<p dir=3D"ltr">Completely understand. </p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">Jonah, do we have a time frame for turning this on? </p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my mobile phone </p>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Feb 7, 2015 10:54 AM, "Saul / Meganet&qu=
ot; <<a href=3D"mailto:saul@meganet.com">saul@meganet.com</a>> wrote:=
<br type=3D"attribution"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:=
0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang=3D"EN-US"=
link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple"><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"=
font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">=
Dear Josh<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"fon=
t-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u>=
</u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size=
:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Thank you=
very much I appreciate your response.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"=
MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",=
sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-s=
erif;color:#1f497d">You know I=E2=80=99m a great supporter but as a CEO of =
a public company I have to answer to a higher authority.<u></u><u></u></spa=
n></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&q=
uot;Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>=
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Take care<u></u><u></u></span></p><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calib=
ri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri&qu=
ot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Saul.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal"><a name=3D"14b6375d2a5c3880__MailEndCompose"><span style=3D"font-si=
ze:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u>=
=C2=A0<u></u></span></a></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><spa=
n style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> <a=
href=3D"mailto:josh@geniusesatwork.com" target=3D"_blank">josh@geniusesatw=
ork.com</a> [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:josh@geniusesatwork.com" target=3D"_b=
lank">josh@geniusesatwork.com</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Josh Garza<br><b>Sen=
t:</b> Friday, February 6, 2015 2:44 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:sau=
l@meganet.com" target=3D"_blank">saul@meganet.com</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re=
: Legal Issue - 2nd Notice<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><=
u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p>Hi Saul, I am looking in to this for you. <u></u>=
<u></u></p><p>Sent from my mobile phone <u></u><u></u></p><div><p class=3D"=
MsoNormal">On Feb 6, 2015 12:45 PM, "Saul / Meganet" <<a href=
=3D"mailto:saul@meganet.com" target=3D"_blank">saul@meganet.com</a>> wro=
te:<u></u><u></u></p><blockquote style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid #cc=
cccc 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><d=
iv><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:=
"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Hi Carlos</span><u></u><u></u=
></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&qu=
ot;Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p><=
p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cal=
ibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">This is a 2<sup>nd</sup> notice. You k=
now I like you personally but this is getting out of my hands. Legal depart=
ment is putting pressure on me and if I don=E2=80=99t have an answer from y=
ou they will take over and they are seeking criminal charges for fraud on t=
op of civil action so I really hope you can help me avert it. As a CEO of a=
public company I have limited control of the oversight committee.</span><u=
></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font=
-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">=C2=A0</span><u></u><=
u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-famil=
y:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">So please get back to me in=
the net 48 hours.</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span sty=
le=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f=
497d">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"=
font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">=
I have an issue with both our legal & accounting department. As you kno=
w we=E2=80=99ve invested over USD 100,000 in Zen hashlets that we have conv=
erted all to Prime Stakers & Hash Stakers based on the promise of $20 m=
inimum price for XPY. We did it based on the published information by GAW b=
oth on the web site and HashTalk.</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNo=
rmal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-=
serif;color:#1f497d">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=
<span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;=
color:#1f497d">In the process of making the decision I had to get approval =
from both the legal department and accounting department as we=E2=80=99re a=
ccountable as a public company making such investment.</span><u></u><u></u>=
</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quo=
t;Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p><p=
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cali=
bri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">As that price floor did not materialize=
and XPY price now is $1 my legal and accounting department would like to l=
iquidate the position as we=E2=80=99re currently at $100,000 USD loss based=
on promises that were not materialized.</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri&qu=
ot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"Ms=
oNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sa=
ns-serif;color:#1f497d">I need to know a FIRM DATE where the hash market wi=
ll open for us to sell our prime stakers (1,000 of them) and hash stakers (=
3,000 of them not loaded) as this is the demand of the legal and accounting=
department to prevent them from demanding from you a direct refund.</span>=
<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;fo=
nt-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">=C2=A0</span><u></u=
><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-fam=
ily:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">I would really like to li=
quidate this position amicably without the involvement of the legal departm=
ent but my hands are tied as we=E2=80=99re a public company supervised by t=
he SEC</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">=C2=A0=
</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11=
.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Please let m=
e know a firm date where we can trade those on the market for BTC. It has t=
o be in the next week so I can keep them at bay.</span><u></u><u></u></p><p=
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cali=
bri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri&qu=
ot;,sans-serif;color:#1f497d">This should allow me to appease them and for =
you to not be out of pocket.</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif=
;color:#1f497d">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span=
style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color=
:#1f497d">I wish you & Josh all the best but my hands are tied. I can n=
o longer continue. Legal department has dozens of documents about the floor=
at $20, the 100 million USD CAF & statements of never less than $10 fl=
oor.</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-siz=
e:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">=C2=A0</=
span><u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0=
pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">As I=E2=80=99m=
overseas I do apologize for not being able to get on the phone</span><u></=
u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-fa=
mily:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u><=
/u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&=
quot;Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Saul Backal</span><u></u><u></=
u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&q=
uot;Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Chairman & CEO</span><u></u=
><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-fam=
ily:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></=
u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&q=
uot;Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Meganet Corporation.</span><u><=
/u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><a name=3D"14b6375d2a5c3880_14b5eb5944=
b7f375__MailEndCompose"></a><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&qu=
ot;Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p><=
p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"=
Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;f=
ont-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Carlos Garza [mailto:<a href=3D=
"mailto:carlos@geniusesatwork.com" target=3D"_blank">carlos@geniusesatwork.=
com</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, January 14, 2015 12:55 PM<br><b>To:</b=
> Saul Backal<br><b>Subject:</b> Paycoin</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Hello Sa=
ul,<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p></=
div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">It's about to happen :)=C2=A0<u></u><u>=
</u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p></div><di=
v><p class=3D"MsoNormal">We have some cool launches coming this Friday incl=
uding Gyft integration with PayBase - users will be able to login and purch=
ase gift cards from PayBase instantly! Our API docs for the 500+ merchant s=
ign ups are estimated to be ready, as well as exchange integration.=C2=A0<u=
></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p><=
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wouldn't mind me using to display regarding XPY sales, or overall volum=
e of sales increase?=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNorma=
l"><br>Also I can take credit card, bank wire, and BTC payment for XPY. Any=
sale you help initiate I can kick back 1.5%.=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p></div>=
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MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#3=
33333">Would you have time to discuss further over the phone? If so, what i=
s the best time and contact number for you? </span><u></u><u></u></p></div>=
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Oh this is going to get interesting with the SEC... certainly explains why the investigation is taking so long. The funniest part of it all is Joshypoo is clueless and oblivious to what is about to happen, I hope he continues to post the world according to Joshypoo! Why I even am kinda glad I lost $100 in the GAWS cloud mining scam... the entertainment value of this debacle has been worth every penny and best of all??? I know how I am going to make my money back! Someone needs a short position put on them!  |
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I wish I still had some HT throw-away accounts so I could post some of this stuff there. How could they argue with this stuff?
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Our board included people up to the retired director of the CIA and many others from the federal government and military (retired)
Oh Snap!!
Goodbye Mr Ganza ...
I'll take a stab in the dark and say this now... There is nowhere to run for Mr G
However...
"We will release all claims and let you go on with your business. Completely confidential."
So as long as he got his money back he was happy for the Fraud he points out to continue... yeah , real ethical Government contractor he is.....
Clearly he paid off meganet since that website never went live. Unless meganet took this further and were advised not to run the website by legal. |
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Baiting the poor bastard < snipped the baiting email out> This is Saul on Feb 28th... I like his response -- but notice that he knowingly got into what was a criminal activity without any hesitation :-) Dear Josh I’m sorry to hear that reply. It is the wrong reply. Let me 1st answer your statements and then tell you where we’re heading from here. 1st, the fact you bought “some” XPY for a split second at $20 is not relevant. Your statement didn’t say you’ll buy “some” XPY for $20 or “part” XPY or for a “limited time” . See attached. It is as clear as the sun. 2nd a buyback of $20 valuation over 20-30 years ? is this a joke ? your statement says “THE SECOND” paybase opened not in installment over 20 years. Do you know the difference between FV & PV ? 3rd There is no uphill battle to show anything. Why would we sell XPY for ANY amount less than $20 when you promised it will be purchased at $20 when paybase opens ? don’t make any sense. LET ME MAKE THIS SIMPLE AND CLEAR. This is NOT a civil dispute between 2 companies, yours & mine. This was a CIMINAL act of FRAUD & GRAND THEFT. This is NOT going to go down any road you know. We’re a USA federal government contractor serving the federal government for over 18 years. FBI & other federal agencies are our clients. So let me tell you where the difference is from what you’ve experienced so far. You can tell HT users, the media & others all kind of stories. You CAN’T tell the FBI. When the FBI ask you to show where the $100 MILLION USD CAF funds are you cant tell them its “confidential” – they will confiscate all computers and documents and see there was no $100 million USD CAF. Criminal Violation #1. fraud punishable by up to 20 years on Jail. When the FBI ask you to show them that you spent the $100 MILLION upon opening of paybase to support the $20 and you will be able to show them only a measly 500k at best it will be Criminal violation number 2. Fraud & Grand Theft. Punishable by up to 20 years in prison. When the FBI interview each and every one of your employees, consultants & executives under oath for potential perjury how many of them will be willing to go to jail for you ? Criminal Violation Number 3. Perjury. Punishable by up to 10 years in prison. When the FBI ask you who were the “thousands” of merchants to accept XPY upon launch you won’t be able to tell them the same stories you tell on HT. hard facts you cant prove. Criminal Violation number 4. Fraud. Punishable by up to 20 years in prison. The FBI will ask you what happened to the HASHLETS that were purchased for over 100 million USD and were supposed to “never expire always profitable yours forever” that ceased to operate when BTC is still profitable. Criminal Violation number 5. Fraud. Punishable by up to 20 years in prison. As hashlets were NOT actual machines they are derivatives and therefore securities. HUGE SEC Violation. Criminal Violation number 6. Securities fraud. Punishable by up to 25 years in prison. There is NOTHING you can tell them to make them a believer. Only facts: Show them $100 million USD CAF (we have all your statements to the media about it) Show them how much money you put in to purchase XPY Show them all your XPY wallets Show them all your bank statements Show them receipts for purchasing all the equipment you’ve claimed you operated Josh. You have defrauded dozens of thousands of investors of dozens of millions of USD and managed to get away with it with all of them. Except we’re not one of them. Our board included people up to the retired director of the CIA and many others from the federal government and military (retired) This is where it all ends. Everybody else is willing to accept your stories and you’re able to get away clean. If you don’t settle this it will all collapse. WHY ? If you don’t settle this bit Thursday 3/5/2015 midnight it will NOT only be us complaining to the FBI, DA, Police, SEC & the whole MEDIA. Its will be EVERYBODY that ever invested and got stung by you. This WEB SITE will go live on Thursday midnight PST: http://gawlawsuit.com/gaw.htmlwe will have EACH AND EVERY hurt party send the forms to the FBI we will have EACH AND EVERY hurt party send the forms to the DA we will have EACH AND EVERY hurt party send the forms to the Police we will have EACH AND EVERY hurt party send the forms to the SEC there will be hundreds if not thousands of claims filed with each of those law enforcement agencies. And then there will be the class action lawsuit. Not for our 100k, but for the $100 million USD you stole from everybody. So the choice is yours: All we’re asking is for our money back. Dollar for dollar. Not a penny extra. We will release all claims and let you go on with your business. Completely confidential. To be exact $98,720 USD Other option will be you & many others in your company going to jail. And then your assets personal and corporate will be sold and we’ll get our money back either way. This by NO MEAN is a threat or extortion or with any intent to coerce you to pay money we don’t deserve. We were criminally defrauded. We want our money back. And Mr. McLain is an amazing attorney but he’s a civil attorney. You need to hire a criminal attorney if you’re going donw this path, which will cost you much more than you’ve defrauded from us. The choice is yours. If you wish to settle this please reply to me. otherwise you DON’T need to. On Thursday 3/5/2015 the deadline will expire and we will take the steps here without further warning. Good day to you sir Saul Backal Chairman & CEO Meganet Corporation. From: joshatgaw@gmail.com [mailto:joshatgaw@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Josh Garza Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 7:24 PM To: Saul Backal Subject: Re: FW: tomorrow's deadline Saul, As disappointed as I am on the way you guys have chosen to approach this (two different attorneys have looked at your emails and were astounded in they way you guys handle things), I am still trying to act in good faith. I want to let you know a few things before we head to far down this road. As we already have before. We have documented evidence that we did buy Paycoins for the stated amount (some even more). Notice that the statement did not say we doing buy every one in existence. Just that we would buy them, and we did. It's an uphill battle to both make the argument that you even lost to begin with, as our company will be able to show examples where you could have sold for far more than you paid. In addition to the fact that we did exactly what we said we would ($20), and we can show that. Finally, we have the honors program coming, which you have an opportunity to wait for. I am not looking to argue with you, so if that's your intent, don't bother. I just want you to know that despite what the Internet says, we are well equipped to deal with defending this, and have been 100% successful. Josh I guess he settled? So much for completely confidential, huh? Now that we have this little tid bit perhaps a non-crypto news organization needs to be contacted... |
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Baiting the poor bastard < snipped the baiting email out> This is Saul on Feb 28th... I like his response -- but notice that he knowingly got into what was a criminal activity without any hesitation :-) Bluffing apparently. Nothing happened on March 5. And I find it hard to believe that Josh would pay him off. |
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Baiting the poor bastard < snipped the baiting email out> This is Saul on Feb 28th... I like his response -- but notice that he knowingly got into what was a criminal activity without any hesitation :-) Dear Josh I’m sorry to hear that reply. It is the wrong reply. Let me 1st answer your statements and then tell you where we’re heading from here. 1st, the fact you bought “some” XPY for a split second at $20 is not relevant. Your statement didn’t say you’ll buy “some” XPY for $20 or “part” XPY or for a “limited time” . See attached. It is as clear as the sun. 2nd a buyback of $20 valuation over 20-30 years ? is this a joke ? your statement says “THE SECOND” paybase opened not in installment over 20 years. Do you know the difference between FV & PV ? 3rd There is no uphill battle to show anything. Why would we sell XPY for ANY amount less than $20 when you promised it will be purchased at $20 when paybase opens ? don’t make any sense. LET ME MAKE THIS SIMPLE AND CLEAR. This is NOT a civil dispute between 2 companies, yours & mine. This was a CIMINAL act of FRAUD & GRAND THEFT. This is NOT going to go down any road you know. We’re a USA federal government contractor serving the federal government for over 18 years. FBI & other federal agencies are our clients. So let me tell you where the difference is from what you’ve experienced so far. You can tell HT users, the media & others all kind of stories. You CAN’T tell the FBI. When the FBI ask you to show where the $100 MILLION USD CAF funds are you cant tell them its “confidential” – they will confiscate all computers and documents and see there was no $100 million USD CAF. Criminal Violation #1. fraud punishable by up to 20 years on Jail. When the FBI ask you to show them that you spent the $100 MILLION upon opening of paybase to support the $20 and you will be able to show them only a measly 500k at best it will be Criminal violation number 2. Fraud & Grand Theft. Punishable by up to 20 years in prison. When the FBI interview each and every one of your employees, consultants & executives under oath for potential perjury how many of them will be willing to go to jail for you ? Criminal Violation Number 3. Perjury. Punishable by up to 10 years in prison. When the FBI ask you who were the “thousands” of merchants to accept XPY upon launch you won’t be able to tell them the same stories you tell on HT. hard facts you cant prove. Criminal Violation number 4. Fraud. Punishable by up to 20 years in prison. The FBI will ask you what happened to the HASHLETS that were purchased for over 100 million USD and were supposed to “never expire always profitable yours forever” that ceased to operate when BTC is still profitable. Criminal Violation number 5. Fraud. Punishable by up to 20 years in prison. As hashlets were NOT actual machines they are derivatives and therefore securities. HUGE SEC Violation. Criminal Violation number 6. Securities fraud. Punishable by up to 25 years in prison. There is NOTHING you can tell them to make them a believer. Only facts: Show them $100 million USD CAF (we have all your statements to the media about it) Show them how much money you put in to purchase XPY Show them all your XPY wallets Show them all your bank statements Show them receipts for purchasing all the equipment you’ve claimed you operated Josh. You have defrauded dozens of thousands of investors of dozens of millions of USD and managed to get away with it with all of them. Except we’re not one of them. Our board included people up to the retired director of the CIA and many others from the federal government and military (retired) This is where it all ends. Everybody else is willing to accept your stories and you’re able to get away clean. If you don’t settle this it will all collapse. WHY ? If you don’t settle this bit Thursday 3/5/2015 midnight it will NOT only be us complaining to the FBI, DA, Police, SEC & the whole MEDIA. Its will be EVERYBODY that ever invested and got stung by you. This WEB SITE will go live on Thursday midnight PST: http://gawlawsuit.com/gaw.htmlwe will have EACH AND EVERY hurt party send the forms to the FBI we will have EACH AND EVERY hurt party send the forms to the DA we will have EACH AND EVERY hurt party send the forms to the Police we will have EACH AND EVERY hurt party send the forms to the SEC there will be hundreds if not thousands of claims filed with each of those law enforcement agencies. And then there will be the class action lawsuit. Not for our 100k, but for the $100 million USD you stole from everybody. So the choice is yours: All we’re asking is for our money back. Dollar for dollar. Not a penny extra. We will release all claims and let you go on with your business. Completely confidential. To be exact $98,720 USD Other option will be you & many others in your company going to jail. And then your assets personal and corporate will be sold and we’ll get our money back either way. This by NO MEAN is a threat or extortion or with any intent to coerce you to pay money we don’t deserve. We were criminally defrauded. We want our money back. And Mr. McLain is an amazing attorney but he’s a civil attorney. You need to hire a criminal attorney if you’re going donw this path, which will cost you much more than you’ve defrauded from us. The choice is yours. If you wish to settle this please reply to me. otherwise you DON’T need to. On Thursday 3/5/2015 the deadline will expire and we will take the steps here without further warning. Good day to you sir Saul Backal Chairman & CEO Meganet Corporation. From: joshatgaw@gmail.com [mailto:joshatgaw@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Josh Garza Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 7:24 PM To: Saul Backal Subject: Re: FW: tomorrow's deadline Saul, As disappointed as I am on the way you guys have chosen to approach this (two different attorneys have looked at your emails and were astounded in they way you guys handle things), I am still trying to act in good faith. I want to let you know a few things before we head to far down this road. As we already have before. We have documented evidence that we did buy Paycoins for the stated amount (some even more). Notice that the statement did not say we doing buy every one in existence. Just that we would buy them, and we did. It's an uphill battle to both make the argument that you even lost to begin with, as our company will be able to show examples where you could have sold for far more than you paid. In addition to the fact that we did exactly what we said we would ($20), and we can show that. Finally, we have the honors program coming, which you have an opportunity to wait for. I am not looking to argue with you, so if that's your intent, don't bother. I just want you to know that despite what the Internet says, we are well equipped to deal with defending this, and have been 100% successful. Josh That's crazy. |
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Baiting the poor bastard < snipped the baiting email out> This is Saul on Feb 28th... I like his response -- but notice that he knowingly got into what was a criminal activity without any hesitation :-) Bluffing apparently. Nothing happened on March 5. And I find it hard to believe that Josh would pay him off. It is very likely that Meganet's legal (maybe outside counsel) dissuaded him from going public with the website. If he were my client, I would have advised to get the FBI involved instead. The amount of money ($98K) isn't worth the risk to Meganet from creating a public dispute. Let the FBI do its job, then jump on the bandwagon after the criminal case .. not the sexiest course of action, but the most prudent for a public company IMHO. |
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Baiting the poor bastard < snipped the baiting email out> This is Saul on Feb 28th... I like his response -- but notice that he knowingly got into what was a criminal activity without any hesitation :-) Bluffing apparently. Nothing happened on March 5. And I find it hard to believe that Josh would pay him off. It is very likely that Meganet's legal (maybe outside counsel) dissuaded him from going public with the website. If he were my client, I would have advised to get the FBI involved instead. The amount of money ($98K) isn't worth the risk to Meganet from creating a public dispute. Let the FBI do its job, then jump on the bandwagon after the criminal case .. not the sexiest course of action, but the most prudent for a public company IMHO. Sometimes all you need is the threat of action to get results... Garza uses that method quite regularly... |
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April 15, 2015, 05:23:33 PM |
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Baiting the poor bastard < snipped the baiting email out> This is Saul on Feb 28th... I like his response -- but notice that he knowingly got into what was a criminal activity without any hesitation :-)
Dear Josh
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So the choice is yours:
All we’re asking is for our money back. Dollar for dollar. Not a penny extra. We will release all claims and let you go on with your business. Completely confidential.
To be exact $98,720 USD
Other option will be you & many others in your company going to jail. And then your assets personal and corporate will be sold and we’ll get our money back either way.
This by NO MEAN is a threat or extortion or with any intent to coerce you to pay money we don’t deserve.
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Saul Backal
Chairman & CEO
Meganet Corporation.
I guess he settled? So much for completely confidential, huh? Now that we have this little tid bit perhaps a non-crypto news organization needs to be contacted... Well, also send a link to GSA.gov ... they handle registration of government contractors on the gsa schedule. Bet they'd like to know that their encryption providers are cool with defrauding citizens so long as they get their money back out of it. ... heck send it to PR contacts for the FBI and CIA since the guy is giving them such a nice image! |
PayCON: PHQAtLmwRXTskGqry1FBuFLnWuqMzcj1TH --==*==-- Qora: QcgdKgPD1SkqzGXWGAY1gwao7257gyGVnB --==*==-- BitCoin: 1L9NLA3wHcGwffm2avVg3tzhDGjtq9
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April 15, 2015, 05:25:12 PM |
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Remember: Secure Infromation is Power! That's the funniest part... guy got hooked up with a scammer that can't even manage to secure his website... wonder if they're behind the mega dumps? |
PayCON: PHQAtLmwRXTskGqry1FBuFLnWuqMzcj1TH --==*==-- Qora: QcgdKgPD1SkqzGXWGAY1gwao7257gyGVnB --==*==-- BitCoin: 1L9NLA3wHcGwffm2avVg3tzhDGjtq9
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April 15, 2015, 05:25:33 PM |
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If Josh was smart he would on his way to UAE right now as he is SCREWED!
I suspect the people he has pissed off and the agencies that are interested in him, that part of the world is one of the more dangerous.... rendition isn't hard apparently |
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