GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io ION ionomy. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :)

[RoomBot]

reminiscing bout the good ol days?  are you shitting me??  
yeah,  what exjay said......

https://hashclub.org/topic/844/let-s-reminisce

Allen Shinners has him beat by both heading up the GAW lawsuit AND hiring the core of the GAW team (The ones who ripped him off and caused the lawsuit) to be his business partners at the same time. Top that for pure Paycoin colored glasses idiocy!

This is quite shocking, as he was such an outspoken early critic of Paycoin & all the bad actors -- one of the founding members of GetHashing Forum. 

BTW the infamous Bitcoin ("Bitty") Bar and Dova, ("DUH-va") definitely need more badges, you know, to compensate for their shortcomings....

[favdesu]

The Paycoiner Braintrust is getting this new Bitlend all figgered out.


https://hashclub.org/topic/840/new-p2p/4

"A Fake BTCLend"!!  

P.S: @ Dovaboy: They are actually doing a thorough KY inspection for the reaming they are likely to get by giving their entire personal and financial data to these clowns.  

your artworks are master pieces. I wish you'd combine them all to an ebook for our viewing pleasure

[Paul Revere]

Joe Mordica has himself a new gig:

Came across a picture purportedly showing Allen & Joe in the new Bitlend Super CIA Level Security data server facility where all of your financial data is kept- far, FAR away from the hands of any potential crooks. No sir, no crooks are going to get at your information or deposits here, nope. No, SIR! Not in any Super CIA Level Security Level Outfit that Joe Mordica is known for running, not a fucking chance!



Some people were saying that they can see some signs of Photoshopping with this. I agree, when I  look close  I can see that some of the (obviously unplugged and non-functional) data servers were probably copy/pasted.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1183413.msg12475076#new

You have Adam, Jason and a handful of other GAW/Paycoin scum involved as well. It is a regular Paycoin Party. In the past day, the official number of owners/ those deeply involved has gone up from 3 to 6.

I have not even totally soaked in the whole Allen leading the GAWsuit and then hiring people who are on the other side of that lawsuit revealation. Do you think Allen and Joe will carpool to court if and when the GAWsuit actually happens? And then go take their places on the opposite sides of the courtroom, like the "Morning Ralph, Morning Sam" between the wolf and the sheepdog in those loonytune cartoons. Glad I am taking story notes on this mess, I would never come up with shit this far out on my own.

[rsix]

where is this scammer josh garza hiding now.

[truckinusa]

where is this scammer josh garza hiding now.

The question everyone would like to know?  He is pretty elusive.  Haven't heard a peep from him anywhere.  Looks like he's still wearing the stupid vests and driving brand new vehicles from facebook.

[o0o0]

where is this scammer josh garza hiding now.

The question everyone would like to know?  He is pretty elusive.  Haven't heard a peep from him anywhere.  Looks like he's still wearing the stupid vests and driving brand new vehicles from facebook.

I don't think he's hiding anywhere... likely near where carlos had his sec interview as I'm sure Josh is up for one too.

No news about josh is only because he's not doing anything of importance anymore that warrants him being found by people in his scams. He's just sitting back shatting bricks and waiting to be processed. The next thing we hear about josh will be the court case hearing. Just watch the crypto news it'll come sooner or later.

[Vlad2Vlad]

Anybody think Garza might try to revive this coin to stay out of prison?

I was wrong the first time around, I thought for sure he had millions and would execute on some kind of plan to salvage his own life but I was wrong and I lost 70% of my XPY investment.

But given the price is now near a penny it would be stupid for him to not try to revive this coin.

I haven't followed XPY in months so I'm wondering if anything is happening which may shed light on this possibility? 

I mean, has there been any strange behavior with the price - any massive accumulation, any new characters showing up here looking to take XPY over?

Much appreciated...

[galdur]

Since a Wall St. mobster is involved you can be about 100% certain that the mob owned "police" will drag its feet for a few years and then maybe quietly fine these criminals a cent on the dollar and possibly collect that fine.

[Vlad2Vlad]

Quick question:  coinmarketcap is showing 16 million XPY.  Is this right, it sounds way too low to me.  Also, what's the inflation rate, how much new XPY is being pumped out each month?

Thanks...

[Vlad2Vlad]

Since a Wall St. mobster is involved you can be about 100% certain that the mob owned "police" will drag its feet for a few years and then maybe quietly fine these criminals a cent on the dollar and possibly collect that fine.

What wall street mobster?  Garza is not a banker.  Sorry, but I haven't kept up and I don't remember any real bankers ever being involved with garza or XPY.  Thanks...

[galdur]

Since a Wall St. mobster is involved you can be about 100% certain that the mob owned "police" will drag its feet for a few years and then maybe quietly fine these criminals a cent on the dollar and possibly collect that fine.

What wall street mobster?  Garza is not a banker.  Sorry, but I haven't kept up and I don't remember any real bankers ever being involved with garza or XPY.  Thanks...

The one from Cantor Fitzgerald. Has backed Josh from one scam to the next.

BitBeat: GAW Miners to Launch Bitcoin Challenger, Paycoin ...
blogs.wsj.com/.../bitbeat-gaw-miners-to-launch-bitcoin-challenger-payco...
Nov 25, 2014 - Backing Mr. Garza is Stuart Fraser, Vice Chairman and Partner at Wall Street inter-dealer broker Cantor Fitzgerald LP, a long-time backer of Mr.

PayCoin and Josh Garza Crash Down - Coin Fire
coinfire.io/2015/04/09/paycoin-and-josh-garza-crashes-down/
Apr 9, 2015 - Mr. Matlack is the owner of at least three PayCoin Prime Controllers. .... Cantor Fitzgerald did not respond to Coin Fire requests for a comment  ...

Et cetera,,,,

[Vlad2Vlad]

The one from Cantor Fitzgerald.

BitBeat: GAW Miners to Launch Bitcoin Challenger, Paycoin ...
blogs.wsj.com/.../bitbeat-gaw-miners-to-launch-bitcoin-challenger-payco...
Nov 25, 2014 - Backing Mr. Garza is Stuart Fraser, Vice Chairman and Partner at Wall Street inter-dealer broker Cantor Fitzgerald LP, a long-time backer of Mr.

PayCoin and Josh Garza Crash Down - Coin Fire
coinfire.io/2015/04/09/paycoin-and-josh-garza-crashes-down/
Apr 9, 2015 - Mr. Matlack is the owner of at least three PayCoin Prime Controllers. .... Cantor Fitzgerald did not respond to Coin Fire requests for a comment  ...

Et cetera,,,,

Ok, I vaguely remember that guy but I wonder if he was nothing more than an investor in which case he's not more guilty than anyone here to bought into the hopes of a guy with millions of dollars taking his coin to another level.

But if the guy was deeper than that and especially if his firm was involved then this will drag out for years.

But that's exactly why I'm thinking there's no way they're gonna go to prison for a few million dollars.  Imagine what you can do with even $1 million once you accumulate most of the XPY on the market which they could have done by now.

It's simple banker/scammer logic to me but then again garza hasn't been logical or rational about any of this so I could be wrong once again.

One this is for sure - I've studied the price of XPY and to me it looks like mass manipulation and accumulation.  But there's no way to know if it's anyone with a plan or just someone with lots of BTC looking to pump a good name.

Cheers!

[truckinusa]

The one from Cantor Fitzgerald.

BitBeat: GAW Miners to Launch Bitcoin Challenger, Paycoin ...
blogs.wsj.com/.../bitbeat-gaw-miners-to-launch-bitcoin-challenger-payco...
Nov 25, 2014 - Backing Mr. Garza is Stuart Fraser, Vice Chairman and Partner at Wall Street inter-dealer broker Cantor Fitzgerald LP, a long-time backer of Mr.

PayCoin and Josh Garza Crash Down - Coin Fire
coinfire.io/2015/04/09/paycoin-and-josh-garza-crashes-down/
Apr 9, 2015 - Mr. Matlack is the owner of at least three PayCoin Prime Controllers. .... Cantor Fitzgerald did not respond to Coin Fire requests for a comment  ...

Et cetera,,,,

Ok, I vaguely remember that guy but I wonder if he was nothing more than an investor in which case he's not more guilty than anyone here to bought into the hopes of a guy with millions of dollars taking his coin to another level.

But if the guy was deeper than that and especially if his firm was involved then this will drag out for years.

But that's exactly why I'm thinking there's no way they're gonna go to prison for a few million dollars.  Imagine what you can do with even $1 million once you accumulate most of the XPY on the market which they could have done by now.

It's simple banker/scammer logic to me but then again garza hasn't been logical or rational about any of this so I could be wrong once again.

One this is for sure - I've studied the price of XPY and to me it looks like mass manipulation and accumulation.  But there's no way to know if it's anyone with a plan or just someone with lots of BTC looking to pump a good name.

Cheers!

You haven't paid much attention have you?  Stuart Fraser has been the money supplier for all of Homero Joshua Garza's frauds. 

[bitpop]

I hope Stuart Fraser Owner of the Paycoin Fraud and Scam is hanged.

[galdur]

Don´t know about that coin; it´s down like 80% from three months ago. There are some pumps but i doubt that it has bottomed. But in any event it seems far from dead it sells for over a cent and has a market cap of over 200 thousand dollars. Whether it will ever amount to anything in a world full of crypto coins remains to be seen.

[cryptodevil]

I mean, has there been any strange behavior with the price - any massive accumulation

I don't know, why don't we ask you seeing as this is exactly what you want people to think, which is exactly what you were claiming months ago was going to happen then, too.

One this is for sure - I've studied the price of XPY and to me it looks like mass manipulation and accumulation.

Trying to get rid of your old bag or a new one?

[o0o0]

Anybody think Garza might try to revive this coin to stay out of prison?

I was wrong the first time around, I thought for sure he had millions and would execute on some kind of plan to salvage his own life but I was wrong and I lost 70% of my XPY investment.

But given the price is now near a penny it would be stupid for him to not try to revive this coin.

I haven't followed XPY in months so I'm wondering if anything is happening which may shed light on this possibility? 

I mean, has there been any strange behavior with the price - any massive accumulation, any new characters showing up here looking to take XPY over?

Much appreciated...

Hey Vlad glad to see you are a man of your own words and can admit when you are wrong... with that out of the way

I think you are wrong on the revival... Garza can only revive with funds. With all the sec investigations and the like going around his only source being stuart fraser do you honestly think stuart as dense is he is to be involved with Garza in the first place would go down that path?

Once its prime time showing to make him make good he'll have to prove to authorities he has the capital and business plan to follow through.. there is no friggen way this is possible so I think you are wrong on that call but of course that's my opinion.

Garza has no prime controllers... his scam buddies are relying on the fact he takes the fall and they milk the crumbs now with its lower rate.

There is no strange behaviour because its lost all its big milking potential... at present with the hyper rates for the few they can probably milk 1-2 btc a day if they go hardcore.. spread amongst the scamming paycoin foundation that's little for each.

Nothing good can come of paycoin. Not now not the future... it will forever be relegated to a form of play money that those suckered will exchange with each other... no sensible person would go in big to relieve them of their debts. If they do.... they are a moron... its that simple.

[NoIdeaAsWell]

Seems Bitcoin_bar is a cross dresser and calls himself or herself..itself RoyalTiffany

[Vlad2Vlad]

Thanks guys for your feedback.

Here is something else I'm seeing/thinking.

Firstly, the name PayCoin is now trademarked by garza and it's a top name and he/we also own the domains.  I put those assets at an easy $1 million valuation and maybe more if crypto heats up and I think it will.  Given this is open source I think the community can sue for the proceeds of said assets or at least an equal distribution to shareholders.

Secondly, I know quite a few connected people in crypto and word is that someone is working on launching a PayCoin Casino.

This would explain the mass accumulation and price manipulation which I have noticed for a few months now.

I have no proof of this and it could be bad info or misinformation but I thought I'd throw it out there.

I am not trying to pump - I'm trying to figure out if it's worth buying here.  And I'm not holding a bag, I sold my ~7 BTC worth of XPY for a 70% loss long ago when it became clear garza had no plan. 

Unless something is going on then even 1 penny (7,000 sat) is too much for this coin given its float and inflation rate so it could easily drop below 1,000 sat and lower.

However, if there is something going on behind the scenes or if the trademark and domains are worth millions of dollars like I believe then buying here at 1 penny could prove to be one of the best buys in crypto this year.

Diversify and buy sensibly and you can make a killing in crypto - lots of scams and dogs with fleas but the winners absolutely kill anything you could be buying in the stock market which is about to crash and burn in a big way.

[And when stocks crash and burn trillions will flow into Bitcoin and crypto from the sheep pension funds]

Be ready for that rocket ride and do NOT sell early!

Cheers!

[cryptodevil]

It's down 97% from the peak. Volume is dying (last 24 hours, not even $20k total). Are you sure you're looking at the right chart?

The past week there has been so much unbelievable bad news that I'm still stunned.  The price crashed originally but then rebounded quickly right back to .0032, on massive buys.

With 14 million coins out and huge inflation and so much bad news, this coin should be at 1 penny, $.60+ is way too high if all the bad news is true and insiders have been dumping the premine [the way most here suggest]. 

I have seen coins with way lower floats and zero inflation, and with zero to tiny relative premines, crash so fast on way less bad news.

And I do not believe traders have been buying it all up.  Not with so much bad news in just a single week.  So I feel there is something else going on and that's why I have been buying.

We will soon find out if there is a big plan or not.

Cheers!

I've been trading a Long time and speculators don't put in hard floors like this.  This is real money at work.

As for me, I've bought all I can afford to lose so I'm gonna wait and watch and then decide on my next move.  The good news is that if I'm right - it should happen soon; one, maybe two weeks by the looks of the latest moves.

Anyone remember this?

It's deja-vu all over again!