Recovery program beginning in January for PB Mining customers.

[kotwica666]

strange is that people get upset at all .. 100% in ten-twelve months, even underground does not give .. and here was.. hmm..  surprise ..?

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[Zeta0S]

http://www.bitcoinupdate.nl/home/pbmining-piggyback-mining-in-zwaar-zeer-ponzi-scheme-afpersing

[investor respect]

just heard back from the newspaper

the pheonix star

dhutton@thestarphoenix.com

you can email this guy to encourage him to pursue the story. it wouldnt be the first time a news paper got results for victims



apparently, and i cant believe this, canada will let you break the law and steal from foreigners without pursuing the criminal unless the victims go to their own local police and have them send a report letting them know they were ripped off by jason boyko even though the authorities in canada already were aware a crime took place.    this is true i am not making this up. u can see this for your self in other posts. supposedly, and maybe there hands are tied by buricrats, they asked a guy not to report what they had responded in an email because it was private. so they want the emails they send, about the guy who stole that they wont get because other people they know were ripped off havent sent reports describing circumstances they already know about, to remain private, on a forum not in canada. 

[Ghai]

Well, the Dutch police is hopeless. Last year when my phone was pickpocketed in Barcelona and I had pictures taken of the robbers, they just told me that is too much work and they don't inform Interpol. The Spanish police told me to inform the Dutch police, so the circle was round. This time the amount of money I speak of is even less than the value of a phone and less tangible, so I would really be surprised if they would take the effort to inform the Canadian police (a phonecall to Canada is much more expensive than one to Interpol after all)

[darealtruth]

And this little piggy will be hunting

http://ljplus.ru/img4/b/o/bobbasset/pig-4.jpg

[Justbyteme]

I am not wishing anyone harm. I just hope everyone gets a fair deal out of this mess. Happy holidays everyone! I hope next year is better for everyone! 

[kotwica666]

Well, the Dutch police is hopeless. Last year when my phone was pickpocketed in Barcelona and I had pictures taken of the robbers, they just told me that is too much work and they don't inform Interpol. The Spanish police told me to inform the Dutch police, so the circle was round. This time the amount of money I speak of is even less than the value of a phone and less tangible, so I would really be surprised if they would take the effort to inform the Canadian police (a phonecall to Canada is much more expensive than one to Interpol after all)

it's true .. One person will not do anything .. To do something with this case would have to organize a large group of customers and then talk to the police ..

[MrTeal]

Investor respect I don't mean to be rude here, but I've done a significant amount of legwork here and I haven't even lost anything. If the police department who would actually be investigating this requests that you file your report through your local department so it gets forwarded to them through the proper chain of command and that is too much effort, you really don't have a lot of cause to be complaining about your losses. It should also be relatively common sense that taking an email exchange between yourself and the police and posting it online is not appropriate, especially when the email has a giant confidentiality notice on the bottom of it.

@snowcrawl, where in Canada are you located, and have you reported anything to the RCMP or filed a report with your local police department? As far as I've seen, you're the only Canadian with a contract.

[lensgrabber]

wow.   I feel sorry for everyone that bought a PBmining contract.  I put .88 in back in April and gotten .95 out as of today so at least I broke even. 

Do you feel sorry enough to donate the extra 0.07 to one of the people that haven't made their money back yet?

hell no.   Does anyone feel sorry for me when I buy in at $600 and it's at $311?  That's the way the game is played.

[kotwica666]

wow.   I feel sorry for everyone that bought a PBmining contract.  I put .88 in back in April and gotten .95 out as of today so at least I broke even. 

Do you feel sorry enough to donate the extra 0.07 to one of the people that haven't made their money back yet?

hell no.   Does anyone feel sorry for me when I buy in at $600 and it's at $311?  That's the way the game is played.

"That's the way the game is played." interesting.. Just asking.. but when you was buying contract, did you expect that PBmining can be ponzi?

[investor respect]

Investor respect I don't mean to be rude here, but I've done a significant amount of legwork here and I haven't even lost anything. If the police department who would actually be investigating this requests that you file your report through your local department so it gets forwarded to them through the proper chain of command and that is too much effort, you really don't have a lot of cause to be complaining about your losses. It should also be relatively common sense that taking an email exchange between yourself and the police and posting it online is not appropriate, especially when the email has a giant confidentiality notice on the bottom of it.

@snowcrawl, where in Canada are you located, and have you reported anything to the RCMP or filed a report with your local police department? As far as I've seen, you're the only Canadian with a contract.

i find your attitude normal and fair. however, once it is known that a ponzi took place all laws that were broken in conjunction with conducting a ponzi would then be of interest to the police - you would think. then they themselves would easily, while looking into the crimes that occured independently of being reported, would see that there were thousands of victims thus leading them into a larger investigation. not to do this would be absurd.

[5ick3uffalo]

Oh my!

"Customer # 39506    30025    0.01567601     1.15453766 "

There are many fairly new accounts with 30 TH/s +:

Customer # 38853   30050    0.01901967     1.45914037
Customer # 39506   30025    0.01900385     1.15453766
DwardMinerPB   30000    0.01898802     5.68879031
Uspex214   30000    0.01898802     8.59548127
igoru   30000    0.01898802     3.79580873
Customer # 38155   29320    0.01855763     4.57232157

I can not believe that much money gone in such a short timeframe.

That´s a LOT of money and just some accounts i picked out...

[5ick3uffalo]

once it is known that a ponzi took place all laws that were broken in conjunction with conducting a ponzi would then be of interest to the police

What laws are exactly broken?

What i have to tell the police?

"I bought cloud mining contracts for virtual bitcoin tokens starting march 2014 from Piggyback Mining in Canada. Now payouts are somewhat low, what should i do?"

[kotwica666]

once it is known that a ponzi took place all laws that were broken in conjunction with conducting a ponzi would then be of interest to the police

What laws are exactly broken?

What i have to tell the police?

"I bought cloud mining contracts for virtual bitcoin tokens starting march 2014 from Piggyback Mining in Canada. Now payouts are somewhat low, what should i do?"

That is very difficult situation, because they still pay. You can say that contractor broke contract rules and now pay not enough.

This is what i was saying before.. it looks like they just play to get more time..

[Puppet]

Since PMmining later claimed to derive income from "other sources", you should consider this an unregistered security. Not sure who's in charge of that in Canada, but if you take that road, it wont even matter if he still pays.

[kotwica666]

Since PMmining later claimed to derive income from "other sources", you should consider this an unregistered security. Not sure who's in charge of that in Canada, but if you take that road, it wont even matter if he still pays.

Probably the best way is to prove that it is a Ponzi scheme. However, it will not be easy.

[Puppet]

You wouldnt even have to prove its a ponzi. Just that its an unregistered security should be enough to force him to provide a full refund.

[Wattda]

I am also from Canada and just called the Saskatchewan police department hoping for answers?

[omega_man_13]

Well if we went either way, ponzi or unregistered security, is it ethical that we try to get paid before his PBmining.ru website scam hits a reef? 
I'm personally out about 10 BTC, and had just bought a big contract, for me anyway, and I am far from happy about it.
I'm in the US, and I'm wondering who the best route is to go thru for the complaint, local, state, or feds?
Will any of this actually result in any return of funds?  I've been reading this forum since about page 5, when I caught on that this was going on for sure, and I also wanted to make sure to say thanks to all you guys who have put some solid legwork into this, whether or not you had an investment.

[UKBC]

In in UK and going to my police over the weekend to document  this scam and my cash so it can be sent over to the Canadian police. I want my cash back for my 900 GH/s and I will do everything possible to get it :-)