Recovery program beginning in January for PB Mining customers.

[MichaelNZ]

Excellent post Biomech, I'm glad to see the voice of reason appear finally.
Although I've not had any private messages with PBM / Boyko I am still prepared to give him the opportunity to do the right thing
All the threats that have been made in here have done nothing to help, and in truth may well have made it worse.
We must be patient and let the process run it's course.

LOL you may well be accused of being Jason Boyko too, just like I have been, what fun eh ?  

LOL. I've been accused of worse. My real identity is pretty well known and easy to come by. They can fling whatever they wish.

I'm rather partial to flinging a piano https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5mqgtXoIxs 

However, it frightens me how many times I have been called the "voice of reason" on Bitcointalk. My friends would disagree vehemently

[MichaelNZ]

If someone blew this Boyko garbage up along with his fucking family and dog

this would be a major crime and life in prison.

But when homicidal junk in Washington DC does the same to entire families

in Pakistan or Yemen it´s just collateral damage.

That's a mighty big ole can o worms you've got yourself there galdur ... Be careful how far you open that sucker up ... Some of those worms are mean and nasty.

[crazyearner]

Well if you do pay and start something new then maybe. Never made a dime back in PB mining for my little deposits that where made. Would of been nice to see some profit or a return of the coins but will wait and see what progress you make for the so called recovery program.

[coinmaster222]

If its a recovery program would love to know where the money went in the first place

[Syke]

something went badly wrong in his supply chain.

Exactly! Not enough new customers to support payouts to old customers. That's the only supply chain they had.

[Biomech]

something went badly wrong in his supply chain.

Exactly! Not enough new customers to support payouts to old customers. That's the only supply chain they had.

That was covered in the post. Don't try to put me in a position I did not take. You may be right, but let it play out, and if you're going to quote me, do it in context.

[MichaelNZ]

I've had several PM's about my signature link to CryptoDouble

Here are my experiences so far and my thoughts on it for the future ...

One point to start ... I am not involved with CryptoDouble except as a customer.
I was extremely sceptical when I found CryptoDouble and couldn't believe what they were offering ... I decided to give it a go anyway.

Here's what I have done.
I put in 1.49 BTC and was amazed when 100 hours later 2.98 appeared in my wallet. 
The 2.98 was immediately reinvested and yippee 100 hours later 5.96 was safely in my wallet
At that I reinvested 3.0 only ... the 2.96 stays safely in my possession.
So I've doubled my coin in a bit over 8 days AND I've got 3.0 FREE to play with ... I'm a happy boy 

Here is the plan going forward ...
3 is going to become 6, then 6 will become 12 at that point, 6 stays in my wallet and 6 gets reinvested, 6 becomes 12 then 24 and 12 stays in my wallet ... you can see how this is going.
As of today, I've got an extra 2.96 I never had before and 6 doubling and ready to arrive back in a few hours ... then I'll have 8.96 I never had before, 8 days later I'll have another 12 to add to that ... that's 20.96 I never had before. And that is double what I had in PBMining !

What do I think this is ?
I'm pretty confident this will end up being exposed as yet another ponzi and eventually it will fail. But knowing this gives me the advantage and by regularly taking a profit out means that if or when it all comes tumbling down and I lose what is still in there, I could care less, it was all invented coin anyway ... The real coin is still tucked safely away in my wallet

One other thing ... they pay affiliate fees of 5%, heck they even pay me 5% on my own BTC investments and reinvestments too ... very cool
Several of you have already used my link to make an investment ... Thanks for 5% 
So if you do decide to go ahead, please use this link http://cryptodouble.com/?ref=9BrFD

Enjoy ... I most certainly am 

[Phildo]

You could care less that you are taking coins from other people who are going to get screwed over eventually, good for you.

[MichaelNZ]

You could care less that you are taking coins from other people who are going to get screwed over eventually, good for you.

Absolutely correct ...  If it is a ponzi, then they are going to get screwed over whether I'm in there or not.

I've had several contacts with CryptoDouble and they continually tell me that they are not a scam and are honestly doubling the value of invested coin in 100 hours.

Do I believe that ? Well, frankly the jury is still out on that one, but in the mean time I'm going to take it at face value and make hay while the sun shines 

Edit: Just checked and so far 9506 investments have been made and 3172 payouts too.

[tmfp]

...................

TL;DR
You got scammed by PB and now you're actively promoting another scam to get your money back.
That's nice.

[btcgnome]

Are we getting paid according to the formula this time?

[rooster2000bka]

60 pages, no plan to recover.....................
You are become Mr Promise! Pbmining!

[guitarplinker]

Are we getting paid according to the formula this time?

Well, Jason changed the contract from a fair contract to "A-B=C" a few weeks ago. So technically, you're getting paid according to a formula, just not a fair formula nor the formula that you started your contract with.

[odlal]

You could care less that you are taking coins from other people who are going to get screwed over eventually, good for you.

Absolutely correct ...  If it is a ponzi, then they are going to get screwed over whether I'm in there or not.

I've had several contacts with CryptoDouble and they continually tell me that they are not a scam and are honestly doubling the value of invested coin in 100 hours.

Do I believe that ? Well, frankly the jury is still out on that one, but in the mean time I'm going to take it at face value and make hay while the sun shines  

Edit: Just checked and so far 9506 investments have been made and 3172 payouts too.

Oh of course it's a scam, where on Earth can you get a 100% increase in just FOUR DAYS eh ?  

Anyway, I'm not going to argue that ... however if you look at their opening screen, like I did, and then choose any of the BTC so-called "Investments", now move along the line to where the amount of BTC is shown with a dashed underlining and click on that to get the Transaction ID ok ?

I couldn't actually copy the value shown under "DEPOSIT TRANSACTION ID" nor does their icon seem to work but I got it anyway from right-clicking on it and then "Inspect Element"  

So now check the BlockChain transaction and sure enough it shows the correct amount of BTC as PART OF THE OVERALL TXN but if you do it for enough of their "Investments" I'm pretty sure what you'll find is that it's simply THEIR OWN coins ALREADY looping around but made to look like there's a continual stream of new investments  

Because what you'll see looking at each of the transactions does not tally with one person simply making a deposit into their system, there's 99.9% ALWAYS at least a second wallet OUTPUT for each transaction which to me indicates it's a SCAM !

So Michael, perhaps you are telling the truth and you have doubled up as you've said previously but I seriously doubt it's anything but a HIGH RISK / SHORT TERM SCAM setup !

Now Michael would you be kind enough to provide the TXN ID of one of your own "Investments" so that I can compare against it please ?

 

[MichaelNZ]

You could care less that you are taking coins from other people who are going to get screwed over eventually, good for you.

Now Michael would you be kind enough to provide the TXN ID of one of your own "Investments" so that I can compare against it please ?

Sure thing, here you go ... b9ed3b2d4cf2ee290c556ad131e7e080a56875e33d1718286cfe652fc337c82e That's the first 100 hour cycle showing 2.98 (1.49x2) paid to my wallet

b9ed3b2d4cf2ee290c556ad131e7e080a56875e33d1718286cfe652fc337c82e: Seen by 6 peers. Appeared in best chain at height 337213, depth 155, work done 7502357886772148182530.
     in   [304402205ac17dbffd96e0b8b62012e4856e4ab25406449aa8366a8c0c0b263bb35860f902205d3dd0fa731e4fd39c141c43bdf74a1691db133578774d791e2da3c894d63be301] [03c5783bcdafbfe8206f1bd0a583a824bcbb8696fec938d02c135eca71f2119e45]
          outpoint:98b47d0f0f976e8fd042e9c0a0528945ce192aab65dac6394f5073edfa429ff1:0
     in   [304402205a7c08ecf1efa1bda020164968af44bc3de9ec5523825a5a3453233c57fb649e0220378970acc4592c0a88e77112e0bda9d3cbf5c834058e3d9f370f52af48e2600801] [0319b49efdd5682939d765dadfda1ea297c657c88a5587ec26158d1a37bdd26ccb]
          outpoint:63ec74eedd9fe545056828b22703f0e971bf78eae8291c08aca11b1036828e1c:1796
     in   [3045022100d47755aae6241423d721275882720c67bc553594cfa672d7d7d993565440806302206d0fe2a173fb1afc743955fb1584ec58162fe1dede14ac60435e7209c3d2aed101] [03040e35264ab31680b25417ab0279840c3bd2aa6572004d438b983f73d1c4e5d7]
          outpoint:291fe6c0e686ac90b1130a199d1b337a144ffd1a5ea073cb50ac06296ab03ba5:1
     in   [3044022015829dbc2a73bcd6d570091dc7e9404a1662abe63528d8478f78f0a9c4a61c5702207a98bdd234697256cb06eea17fd0c3f998edec47a902f99d1d3f8cb0fa908b7f01] [0242489004c01d17d892b1d0c9433cc205f60e999d08ced3afdbb5e96a83b31889]
          outpoint:d0f9e8cf895c1f4e69a4cd3dcb606d48f68a1892d3be175c5706b62fb7afdaeb:1
     in   [304402200c4a9d545508560b1a27c336473fd1eaa08759792a69efce04d9ac8dab79998d0220624745894ca832a8c34a7d42d1e991ee4cd067e7c96d33570df5e1652c88c40f01] [02b3c0091facfe3df9e418df4b717d6bdf987a008dd2d1a6e22e30985b53e873cb]
          outpoint:310ae5bbb468e86e602972f321fd65e44dc55b72f00d3713ba68108593dff185:1
     in   [30440220125ca0ae30bff40bcb3642e3fea61c17cc7b82cecd79106a671f1521a4c291d30220311ab4b747e669fe832c830d66029e7c44164e231abc676dcd837ab0b1f3bacd01] [0333f96f2711cb5e7534b54e237e9cc9dbe14ad0f031538aae1e51a646b4aecb64]
          outpoint:3ae99cdfa586ea7f7dd7feae1a7cb6fdfae2d05305ae7754ad4875263a6c80c1:1
     in   [30450221008796d15ca1ebc5d6d626ce9d8711373fd17195b0ecdbfb001f4a986b79f6f619022031acbdac4e0b5dc7090af006ab5d0cf11dd0dea8b326089364ff07f7abac81ad01] [02865b8963e348412088c50b7c5d787f76a6e4668e58e0b33ccb47f34e3723ed4a]
          outpoint:1610bb5721e3c2f013ca6f3bb80e409c66a90fc710d008a7ae654c2087b442fe:277
     out  DUP HASH160 [667842ad547ebbfb53288b2638ceaf365485945e] EQUALVERIFY CHECKSIG 0.01067692 BTC
     out  DUP HASH160 [9958dcc5e3c309f04ec4fc5cda3d8099cf8e0e51] EQUALVERIFY CHECKSIG 2.98 BTC Spent by aad89245cb80c36978d13b6c6eb904701d983b7582957e9570b3e1a2b2d7c6dc

[odlal]

Now Michael would you be kind enough to provide the TXN ID of one of your own "Investments" so that I can compare against it please ?

Sure thing, here you go ... b9ed3b2d4cf2ee290c556ad131e7e080a56875e33d1718286cfe652fc337c82e That's the first 100 hour cycle showing 2.98 (1.49x2) paid to my wallet

Sorry, I wasn't clear enough, I meant the TXN ID for the initial deposit INTO their system, so in this case, the one where you paid in 1.49 BTC ?

Hope that's ok with you ?

Thanks BTW  

EDIT: Because what you should find is that your TXN won't have a second OUTPUT Wallet  whereas 99.9% of all of the remaining "Investments" DO !

 

[MichaelNZ]

I've got a load of other little ones too, feel free to check them out as well ...

Mazacoin...
To: CryptoDouble MJ6Z9W2Wsp6Zm8ZegUeJFvT3z3teDv16mF
Debit: -3100.00 MZC
Net amount: -3100.00 MZC
Transaction ID: f95af9b30a7cfdb1bbda322e655192aa37cf64c2521b364da744ef78c0b5c699

To: MMzwmQcM5YZnq5FRqFywod4vVL71RYtKsJ (own address, label: Popcorn)
Credit: 6200.00 MZC
Net amount: +6200.00 MZC
Transaction ID: 206296af24a14c778bf7d2006dcface2727014f8ccb4ad5088ca5cb871e30126

Einsteinium...
To: CryptoDouble EbfwoPebevALPfQ8K8jMkmjoSkhj75fKc9
Debit: -176.00 EMC2
Net amount: -176.00 EMC2
Transaction ID: e8857a269ee95894d440f0f3d4f935f904c6c0aa048c93ce1d5c418aac9f2c74

To: EPmKUMn6mACg3LkZ7j8DDiDh4L8Ybva6mQ (own address, label: Relativity free)
Credit: 352.00 EMC2
Net amount: +352.00 EMC2
Transaction ID: aa758c9e96e95ce5c04b3a4ce6b9e752693e4c500b7a978a62871e9a2e3706d0

Reddcoin
To: CryptoDouble ReTe5q81FXTaSgKQzUFfkoyWfKeMo7DCaq
Debit: -210.00 RDD
Transaction fee: -0.002 RDD
Net amount: -210.002 RDD
Transaction ID: a3e72eb4c6b8c92d01e311e2fc5412bc3215a3970c789beab012471f2cdc7491

To: RnTgzTy9fjPUxp8yjTD7U8a2pZiSZsLqSU (own address, label: redrum 2)
Credit: 420.00 RDD
Net amount: +420.00 RDD
Transaction ID: 1fcb2ba80db2e35c2ba6c26a5f24033348cd12c4370c43bf17ee76fbb98ffdad

[MichaelNZ]

Now Michael would you be kind enough to provide the TXN ID of one of your own "Investments" so that I can compare against it please ?

Sure thing, here you go ... b9ed3b2d4cf2ee290c556ad131e7e080a56875e33d1718286cfe652fc337c82e That's the first 100 hour cycle showing 2.98 (1.49x2) paid to my wallet

Sorry, I wasn't clear enough, I meant the TXN ID for the initial deposit INTO their system, so in this case, the one where you paid in 1.49 BTC ?

Hope that's ok with you ?

Thanks BTW 

EDIT: Because what you should find is that your TXN won't have a second OUTPUT Wallet  whereas 99.9% of all of the remaining "Investments" DO !

 

No worries ... here you, the first 1.49 outgoing transaction ...
 06e365e50f574e8485e8a6c6e674ec594b9c9ae78ff97ba064ecc1046dce5a3c: Seen by 3 peers. Appeared in best chain at height 336552, depth 818, work done 7846305748742629641972.

EDIT: Here is a link to Block Explorer ... http://blockexplorer.com/tx/06e365e50f574e8485e8a6c6e674ec594b9c9ae78ff97ba064ecc1046dce5a3c
 

[odlal]

Now Michael would you be kind enough to provide the TXN ID of one of your own "Investments" so that I can compare against it please ?

Sure thing, here you go ... b9ed3b2d4cf2ee290c556ad131e7e080a56875e33d1718286cfe652fc337c82e That's the first 100 hour cycle showing 2.98 (1.49x2) paid to my wallet

Sorry, I wasn't clear enough, I meant the TXN ID for the initial deposit INTO their system, so in this case, the one where you paid in 1.49 BTC ?

Hope that's ok with you ?

Thanks BTW  

EDIT: Because what you should find is that your TXN won't have a second OUTPUT Wallet  whereas 99.9% of all of the remaining "Investments" DO !

 

No worries ... here you, the first 1.49 outgoing transaction ...
 06e365e50f574e8485e8a6c6e674ec594b9c9ae78ff97ba064ecc1046dce5a3c: Seen by 3 peers. Appeared in best chain at height 336552, depth 818, work done 7846305748742629641972.
 

Hey thanks very much for the quick turn around  

And as I suspected your TXN looks different from all of the other ones shown on their website because it doesn't PAY OUT to a further wallet !!!

I'd advise AGAINST anyone to "invest" anything which they can't afford to lose ...

PS 2:30AM Bed  

 

[MichaelNZ]

Hey thanks very much for the quick turn around 

And as I suspected your TXN looks different from all of the other ones shown on their website because it doesn't PAY OUT to a further wallet !!!

I'd not advise anyone to "invest" anything which they can't afford to lose ...


Absolutely 100% agreement ... I've already got my investment back and I'm now playing with their coin ... Furthermore, I'm well into profit.
As I've said CryptoDouble keep on saying they are not a scam ... What else would could be expected !!

But I'm going to keep going with it ... I'm prepared to take it at face value and make hay while the sun shines ... Which it is today, Summer is here in New Zealand