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December 13, 2015, 02:48:12 PM |
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I don't even know why people act so naive.
Its simply a matter of a guy who had an idea and thought it would be easy, so he made a lot of claims and hype, but once he got down to it, realized it would not be quite so easy. Besides , exactly what is the point of torrentz + cryptocoins ? Perhaps torrent + cryptography, but not a coin. For you to actually make this work , you need a way to monetize content in a way that will result people actually opting to buy/upload, maybe in collaboration with a original content provider, you could get somewhere, but not as current.
Just some thoughts.
I disagree with you on the possible uses of crypto and torrents. The fact that torrents could be put onto a blockchain and there's not a god damn thing the MPAA or any other organisation could do, is a billion dollar idea. This is why I have kept my coins, just in case the Dev does pull it off. What is this thing called MPAA? HAHAHAHA billion dollar idea??? Piracy ? Paying for piracy of shit i can get free? You really haven't researched file sharing. Go take a closer look at what file sharing is really like beyond the pages of TPB. There already exist paid torrent services, featuring blistering speeds and blinding methods that make it impossible to tell who downloaded what. What part of this exactly is a billion dollar idea, in fact, convince me this is a million dollar idea. I live in the UK where the government has told ISP's to block torrent sites. It's now increasingly harder for your average Joe to use torrent sites, thanks to organisations like the MPAA and others lobbying governments. Torrents on the blockchain via a search function in the wallet would solve this. Let's also take freedom of speach into consideration also. Let's say I made a video that spoke out about the government or had some whistle blower info I needed to get out, then torrents on the blockchain would be the best amd safest way of me staying private and asking sure that the message could not be taken down. See, the thing is you cant put a real torrent on the block chain. all it takes is one to gum up the chain. If you instead resort to links only, then you have to worry about torrent availability , share speeds and everythng else current torrents do. so....why the additional coin ?
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December 13, 2015, 03:27:17 PM |
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I don't even know why people act so naive.
Its simply a matter of a guy who had an idea and thought it would be easy, so he made a lot of claims and hype, but once he got down to it, realized it would not be quite so easy. Besides , exactly what is the point of torrentz + cryptocoins ? Perhaps torrent + cryptography, but not a coin. For you to actually make this work , you need a way to monetize content in a way that will result people actually opting to buy/upload, maybe in collaboration with a original content provider, you could get somewhere, but not as current.
Just some thoughts.
I disagree with you on the possible uses of crypto and torrents. The fact that torrents could be put onto a blockchain and there's not a god damn thing the MPAA or any other organisation could do, is a billion dollar idea. This is why I have kept my coins, just in case the Dev does pull it off. What is this thing called MPAA? HAHAHAHA billion dollar idea??? Piracy ? Paying for piracy of shit i can get free? You really haven't researched file sharing. Go take a closer look at what file sharing is really like beyond the pages of TPB. There already exist paid torrent services, featuring blistering speeds and blinding methods that make it impossible to tell who downloaded what. What part of this exactly is a billion dollar idea, in fact, convince me this is a million dollar idea. I live in the UK where the government has told ISP's to block torrent sites. It's now increasingly harder for your average Joe to use torrent sites, thanks to organisations like the MPAA and others lobbying governments. Torrents on the blockchain via a search function in the wallet would solve this. Let's also take freedom of speach into consideration also. Let's say I made a video that spoke out about the government or had some whistle blower info I needed to get out, then torrents on the blockchain would be the best amd safest way of me staying private and asking sure that the message could not be taken down. See, the thing is you cant put a real torrent on the block chain. all it takes is one to gum up the chain. If you instead resort to links only, then you have to worry about torrent availability , share speeds and everythng else current torrents do. so....why the additional coin ? The Dev is trying use magnet links on the blockchain. He also plans to give part of the PoS reward to seeders and uploaders, thus fixing the flaw with the torrent network (lack of seeders), hence the coin. Edit: when you think about it. If the Dev can pull it off, crypto and torrents are the perfect marriage.
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December 13, 2015, 07:17:18 PM |
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What is this thing called MPAA? HAHAHAHA billion dollar idea??? Piracy ? Paying for piracy of shit i can get free? You really haven't researched file sharing. Go take a closer look at what file sharing is really like beyond the pages of TPB. There already exist paid torrent services, featuring blistering speeds and blinding methods that make it impossible to tell who downloaded what. What part of this exactly is a billion dollar idea, in fact, convince me this is a million dollar idea. The more pay-torrents exist, the more easier it gets to get them for free.. Personally, I would be happy to pay a few bits for each torrent to support the system.
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December 15, 2015, 09:24:22 PM |
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interesting how the project is still on trex, tbh.
I thought they had a strict de-listing policy, so something is going on that's out of the ordinary?
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December 15, 2015, 11:40:30 PM |
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interesting how the project is still on trex, tbh.
I thought they had a strict de-listing policy, so something is going on that's out of the ordinary?
Good point! i have a good feeling for VTR despite the delay and minimal communication, the dev is running a marathon
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December 18, 2015, 11:11:57 AM |
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Another dead horse being whipped by bagholders hoping it will become a unicorn
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December 18, 2015, 06:08:16 PM Last edit: December 18, 2015, 08:34:06 PM by leigh2k14 |
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Another dead horse being whipped by bagholders hoping it will become a unicorn
I see someone added some buy support. Nice try.
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December 18, 2015, 10:18:17 PM |
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Another dead horse being whipped by bagholders hoping it will become a unicorn
Yep. Whip, whip, whip.
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December 18, 2015, 10:39:40 PM |
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Another dead horse being whipped by bagholders hoping it will become a unicorn
VTR is a dark horse for success in 2016
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December 19, 2015, 08:03:25 AM |
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Not with that "progress"..
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December 19, 2015, 09:45:35 AM |
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Another dead horse being whipped by bagholders hoping it will become a unicorn
I see someone added some buy support. Nice try. Actually the buy amount is about the exact same as it has been recently. I did get some messages back from the dev; he claims that he is currently conducting private testing. He didn't reveal anything specific about torrents, but this is consistent with messages I have from him more than a year ago.
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December 19, 2015, 10:52:40 AM |
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Another dead horse being whipped by bagholders hoping it will become a unicorn
I see someone added some buy support. Nice try. Actually the buy amount is about the exact same as it has been recently. I did get some messages back from the dev; he claims that he is currently conducting private testing. He didn't reveal anything specific about torrents, but this is consistent with messages I have from him more than a year ago. I hadn't looked at the buy support for a few days. I thought hack_ was trolling to get people to dump. I wish the dev would give us a little bit of info as to how things are going, we're not asking too much, we've been waiting for over a year. Hell, it would be nice if he would just post to say merry Christmas. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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December 20, 2015, 11:26:37 AM |
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I was not trolling. I posted my views previously. For it to make sense in a financial way, we need a tangible reason to monetize posting links and hosting the content. As if that is not bad enough, you need more than the average net connection to be a useful seeder. Also even if it is original content , PIRACY will just take over with free ones popping up all over the net. I'm not knocking the idea, i'm knocking the idea of forming a coin and marketing it as a solution before you have actually thoroughly thought through the problems that exist. Torrents are great, just you have to explain why torrents + cryptocoin is a good idea. Citing things like regulation, state interference and DMCA is subject to too many arguments and too broad. Lets not forget that it only applies in the U.S and similar legislation is not really strongly enforced across the rest of the globe. I'd rather troll DASH in the hopes of getting some cheap. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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December 20, 2015, 07:56:05 PM |
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Guys is the dev back, i was here a few months ago, and the dev dissapeared for a few months. Is he back? Is he working on this? Is the project going well. Please fill me in ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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December 20, 2015, 09:57:19 PM |
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Guys is the dev back, i was here a few months ago, and the dev dissapeared for a few months. Is he back? Is he working on this? Is the project going well. Please fill me in ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) He is still working on the project. As to what he is doing, your guess is as good as mine.
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December 22, 2015, 07:49:08 AM |
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So vtorrent has kindly let me try out the new wallet (minus torrent features); I've been asked to keep the file private but can share screenshots here. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FGMjysoT.png&t=665&c=Op7uN0oePEvdYQ) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F0muQofi.png&t=665&c=Z9p2-j8FxlzIwg) So yes, it does exist. It is functional, it is pretty slick and barring the blockchain completely syncing (it is taking some time) it looks quite nice. There is a BitTorrent section, but it has been deactivated on this particular copy of the program (vtorrent stated that it would be without torrent functionality as this is still in private testing) New features: -multiple windows for trading on bittrex -2FA via Google Authenticator -Key management -HD addresses -Block explorer Regarding the lack of any update on torrent functionality this is what vtorrent said on December 31st, 2014: Since Magnetz scam, I prefer to keep all the details about torrent implement from public until we release our first beta client with torrent implemented. As to when to expect torrent release, I have no information.
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December 22, 2015, 09:17:56 AM |
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So vtorrent has kindly let me try out the new wallet (minus torrent features); I've been asked to keep the file private but can share screenshots here.
so the plot thickens ... would love for VTR to turn out a non-scam ... not selling my stack
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December 22, 2015, 10:49:46 AM |
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New wallet looks sexy ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) As for the torrents, after 1 year I’m in the mindset that it will happen when it happens.
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December 22, 2015, 12:16:28 PM |
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I had to click to checkout this Concept of Bittorrent in Wallet. It reminds the old days when i used to use uTorrent for pc Games. lol Keeping my eye on this project.
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December 22, 2015, 01:36:46 PM |
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