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September 14, 2015, 04:35:29 PM
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All seems good for me, built without issue and synced fine after a --reindex, started up one local BN for now, will fire up some more tonight.

Should I be running 1 core solo mining for each BN?

For now yes, I am implementing proof of service for mining now (may take a while as i can't seem to keep my eyes open)

I'm not so lucky, my VPS and home wallets starts to sync to the last block and then it stops. After closing and opening again it does the same so I can't sync to start my BNs.

Full re-sync? Try to use the -connect switch and sync from a node that's fully synced , fro then on , your node will ignore bad nodes

use these :-

addnode=41.191.238.189
addnode=82.211.1.181:8877
addnode=91.230.123.101:8877
188.193.114.167

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September 14, 2015, 04:58:03 PM
Last edit: September 14, 2015, 05:52:34 PM by alganonim
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@thelonecrouton

Yeah , I did it and even with this

removenode=104.222.116.206
removenode=68.58.2.117
removenode=217.244.9.102

bootstrap taken from dragos, didn't use any switches


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Didn't used full resync, what block number is the last now 201855 or 201880

My VPS wallet reports that 91.230.123.101 node is misbehaving.


EDIT :

Wait a minute, so BN mining is already working ? Shouldn't I change "listen=1" in conf ?

If each BN needs 1 core then I'm out of luck ...
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September 14, 2015, 05:39:47 PM
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201855? used connect for the three nodes posted above..

7 peers, one is version 09 the rest 10

http://pastebin.com/87Hk8mH9
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September 14, 2015, 06:05:34 PM
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201855? used connect for the three nodes posted above..

7 peers, one is version 09 the rest 10

http://pastebin.com/87Hk8mH9

Likely user with 09 but correct block count did not run configure before building.

But if you look in main.cpp, you'll see that he/she will get cut off soon.

gonna slow down on development for a day or two and observe the chain, everything else seems in order just want to watch the payout block and see if it works out.

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September 14, 2015, 06:19:23 PM
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All seems good for me, built without issue and synced fine after a --reindex, started up one local BN for now, will fire up some more tonight.

Should I be running 1 core solo mining for each BN?

For now yes, I am implementing proof of service for mining now (may take a while as i can't seem to keep my eyes open)

I'm not so lucky, my VPS and home wallets starts to sync to the last block and then it stops. After closing and opening again it does the same so I can't sync to start my BNs.

Full re-sync? Try to use the -connect switch and sync from a node that's fully synced , fro then on , your node will ignore bad nodes

use these :-

addnode=41.191.238.189
addnode=82.211.1.181:8877
addnode=91.230.123.101:8877
188.193.114.167

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addnode=91.230.123.11:8877

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September 14, 2015, 06:37:01 PM
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If each BN needs 1 core then I'm out of luck ...

If there's a choice of BN collateral amounts (and proportional BN rewards) in a future update, I'll be going for some 250k+ BNs, I can realistically run 5 or so across the ISP connections I have available at home.

I notice than BN payments are incoming now @ 10.35 BCR - this isn't far off half the previous 18.75 BCR payout... with BNs needing to run a CPU core all the time I think some upward revision might be justified.

I've got some ideas for improving the bidding process and monitoring it from withing the UI, but I'll wait to see the whole process in action and working properly first so I have a better idea of how to make things simpler for the user.
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September 14, 2015, 06:45:52 PM
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If each BN needs 1 core then I'm out of luck ...

If there's a choice of BN collateral amounts (and proportional BN rewards) in a future update, I'll be going for some 250k+ BNs, I can realistically run 5 or so across the ISP connections I have available at home.

I notice than BN payments are incoming now @ 10.35 BCR - this isn't far off half the previous 18.75 BCR payout... with BNs needing to run a CPU core all the time I think some upward revision might be justified.

I've got some ideas for improving the bidding process and monitoring it from withing the UI, but I'll wait to see the whole process in action and working properly before I do any more.

I've tried my best to be in the loop about whats going on but this 1 core per BN business is news to me. Anyone care to fill me in? this stuff should be posted on the first page... at least as a very brief post with the mininimum requirements for a BN - a TL;DR at the very least. Is there an irc or something where you guys communicate?
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September 14, 2015, 07:16:24 PM
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If each BN needs 1 core then I'm out of luck ...

If there's a choice of BN collateral amounts (and proportional BN rewards) in a future update, I'll be going for some 250k+ BNs, I can realistically run 5 or so across the ISP connections I have available at home.

I notice than BN payments are incoming now @ 10.35 BCR - this isn't far off half the previous 18.75 BCR payout... with BNs needing to run a CPU core all the time I think some upward revision might be justified.

I've got some ideas for improving the bidding process and monitoring it from withing the UI, but I'll wait to see the whole process in action and working properly before I do any more.

Let us discuss it then in finality so that we need not return to this area.  Smiley

Every block is divided between 2 BNs, the one that mined the block and the one that won the payment. The reason behind this is part of the Proof of Service mechanism, ie if you have a BN and wish to actually earn something you have to throw a core or two to the network and cooperate with others else you will get a few payments, then get removed for breaching the QoS parameters. It all adds up to the same amount, while also incentivizing BN owners to actually participate.

Upping the amount of an actual payment would mean reducing the mining BNs reward, re-allocating to winning BN, that is if we want to maintain the average projected emissions. We could also modify the emissions layout.....not my first option. On this one i have no real opinion of which deserves more between winner and miner, they eventually just get the same assuming every BN is allocating an average of one core.

Meanwhile with regard to incentives/rewards, I want to counter-balance the overwhelming advantage that we have given BN owners with a productivity based incentive platform. Already we can barely keep up under the pressure of what needs doing, so i'm trying to implement a ratings, grants and voting system (you can view progress on the git)

Likely this upcoming update is going to be very heavy too, as i also intend to finally introduce the multi-tier system, ie varying types of BN (the coinbase tx is going to be a pain to construct)  Cry

This update will also include some serious work on the GUI including trying to solve the windows problems one and for all, we need to resolve the race conditions that are triggering the crash.

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September 14, 2015, 07:16:47 PM
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For all of you who have problems syncing, start the wallet with -reindex.

eg. bitcredit-qt.exe -reindex

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September 14, 2015, 07:22:23 PM
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If each BN needs 1 core then I'm out of luck ...

If there's a choice of BN collateral amounts (and proportional BN rewards) in a future update, I'll be going for some 250k+ BNs, I can realistically run 5 or so across the ISP connections I have available at home.

I notice than BN payments are incoming now @ 10.35 BCR - this isn't far off half the previous 18.75 BCR payout... with BNs needing to run a CPU core all the time I think some upward revision might be justified.

I've got some ideas for improving the bidding process and monitoring it from withing the UI, but I'll wait to see the whole process in action and working properly before I do any more.

I've tried my best to be in the loop about whats going on but this 1 core per BN business is news to me. Anyone care to fill me in? this stuff should be posted on the first page... at least as a very brief post with the mininimum requirements for a BN - a TL;DR at the very least. Is there an irc or something where you guys communicate?

Discussion is very fluid and done very openly on this thread. Most of the ideas are free flowing and evolve into code as discussions are ongoing.

we do have an irc channel and slack, but noone really uses them.

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September 14, 2015, 07:52:48 PM
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My node http://crypto.office-on-the.net:8776 working again.
I separated my node from the others nodes.
If there is a wish to mining in it, must be added to hosts file the following entry:
Code:
82.200.205.30     p2pool.website
Then run miner, for example:
Code:
clpts -o 1 -u BCR_ADDRESS -d 0-1

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September 14, 2015, 08:06:07 PM
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For all of you who have problems syncing, start the wallet with -reindex.

eg. bitcredit-qt.exe -reindex

Already did it for one wallet, then stopped it and copied to others.

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I didn't see any problem with that, but like proletariat said - it must be clearly announced and explained, if it works already still don't know how to activate it (listen=1 in conf ?), even if it's so easy and obvious, simple yes would be really helpful.

I have already started my BNs in old way so, my first thought is that nothing has changed.

I really even didn't know that bcr has a slack channel , where when how Wink
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September 14, 2015, 11:21:39 PM
Last edit: September 14, 2015, 11:32:02 PM by thelonecrouton
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By my crude estimation, if the 6 million reserve BCR remain unburned and unbacked - worst case scenario IMO - and if BCR is on average bid for at only half the current market price, if the backing thus acquired only lends 20% of its actual value to the market price, it will take appx. 1 year for the Assured Minimum Value of BCR to match the market price it started at. After this, the AMV starts to exceed the starting market price rather rapidly. Holds true whatever the initial starting price is.

eg, taking the current Bittrex bid price:


This is all pure conjecture, I'm just working from some simple initial conditions and extrapolating, and I'm using BTC as a yardstick because most people here have a feel for what BTC is 'worth' - I think we should be ditching most of the cryptofiat backing for something solid ASAP. Now more than ever world markets are volatile, the relative prices of anything could go any which way at short notice so even when some actual data is available to model from, long term price predictions are always going to be about as accurate as long term weather forecasts. Possibly slightly more  accurate than 'Technical Analysis' chart voodoo though, which to me seems like driving your car forwards while staring only into the rear view mirror and believing that the past is telling you what's in the road ahead.

One thing is certain though, for backing to happen we're going to have to attract buyers.

I'm doubtful we'll convince many miners to just buy BCR instead of wasting electricity to acquire it. Miners are mostly just geeks hoping to get free shit. I suspect few miners are interested in actual investment rather than raw speculation or instadumping via BTC into fiat to buy more of whatever it is that they smoke that convinces them that what they're doing is a sensible use of their time and energy.

Back to the attracting buyers bit... as bitcreditscc said a little while ago we're going to need outreach. I've done sales work and I hated it too, but we can learn from what other cryptocurrencies have done and avoid their mistakes. Sadly I don't think there are many successes to emulate, unless one counts the likes of the Ethereum, fools and their money etc.

Top of my personal list of things to avoid is spending much - or any - money or effort within the crypto scene, it's filthy with dogma and broken thinking, and most of 'em are completely broke from all that pre-obsolete mining hardware, the electricity bills, and playing suicidal daytrader against whales and bots on the obviously crooked (all of them) exchanges.

It's difficult to know where to direct efforts though without an idea of what the community sees as the longer term purpose of BCR. Before the bidding/backing thing got underway I think there was plenty of scope in the original vision of a p2p banking and financial services platform. When the backing system is fully running I hope bitcreditscc continues to develop that aspect of things, it's a big market.

There are just so many ways that BCR could flourish, I'd be interested to hear what others see ahead, or would like to see in BCR - not short term technical stuff like wallets crashing on platform X, that stuff will get ironed out, but the bigger picture.

Just ruminating here, and thought I'd post some more asset backing porn as the BCR price seems to have risen somewhat since I last did so.  Grin

If this post has left any cryptognats unoffended, please tell me so I can include you in my sweeping and unflattering characterisations next time, I wouldn't want anyone to feel left out.  Cheesy


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September 14, 2015, 11:30:15 PM
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is someone doing some sabotage to your chain?
did not read all yet..

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September 15, 2015, 01:34:25 AM
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It's time to start the network  Roll Eyes

Nodes:
41.191.238.189
82.211.1.181:8877
91.230.123.101:8877

Windows Wallet 0.30.17 - 64 bit - Download Link: https://mega.nz/#!mx1Flbja!TNzTJ-IBxUYbp1JXwFy9NhAKGtVnyLe3ZJETttp_Z5g
Correct blockchain till 201845 - 148.8 MB - Download Link: https://mega.nz/#!GxUzzaDD!Tg9yG9BJADXA8dBFlQGy7j5pND2L-4ATr6-Iq7YtQ70

BAD NODES !!!
104.222.116.206
68.58.2.117
217.244.9.102
(Block this IP's)

Just curious. Is this the correct wallet to use now?

I see the OP still has v0.30.16.x

If you are going to leave your BTC on an exchange please send it to this address instead 1GH3ub3UUHbU5qDJW5u3E9jZ96ZEmzaXtG, I will at least use the money better than someone who steals it from the exchange. Thanks Wink
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September 15, 2015, 05:30:37 AM
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It's time to start the network  Roll Eyes

Nodes:
41.191.238.189
82.211.1.181:8877
91.230.123.101:8877

Windows Wallet 0.30.17 - 64 bit - Download Link: https://mega.nz/#!mx1Flbja!TNzTJ-IBxUYbp1JXwFy9NhAKGtVnyLe3ZJETttp_Z5g
Correct blockchain till 201845 - 148.8 MB - Download Link: https://mega.nz/#!GxUzzaDD!Tg9yG9BJADXA8dBFlQGy7j5pND2L-4ATr6-Iq7YtQ70

BAD NODES !!!
104.222.116.206
68.58.2.117
217.244.9.102
(Block this IP's)

Just curious. Is this the correct wallet to use now?

I see the OP still has v0.30.16.x

Yes!

The OP was updated.

Thank You for your tips!
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September 15, 2015, 07:15:32 AM
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Somebody should talk with Chainz and Bittrex ...

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September 15, 2015, 07:42:26 AM
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Somebody should talk with Chainz and Bittrex ...

Maybe chains, but bittrex should wait a bit until we confirm payout blocks are working properly

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September 15, 2015, 07:45:30 AM
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Somebody should talk with Chainz and Bittrex ...

Maybe chains, but bittrex should wait a bit until we confirm payout blocks are working properly

OK.

Just a info. What could throw this error ?

 
Code:
bitcreditd: main.cpp:3811: void ProcessGetData(CNode*): Assertion `!"cannot load block from disk"' failed.

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September 15, 2015, 08:39:29 AM
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Somebody should talk with Chainz and Bittrex ...

Maybe chains, but bittrex should wait a bit until we confirm payout blocks are working properly

OK.

Just a info. What could throw this error ?

 
Code:
bitcreditd: main.cpp:3811: void ProcessGetData(CNode*): Assertion `!"cannot load block from disk"' failed.

Likely a corruption of the block data

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