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March 06, 2015, 11:04:09 AM
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March 06, 2015, 12:32:32 PM
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New affiliate program
Earn up to 30% revenue from players you refer!

You can earn up to 30% of the monthly revenue of players you refer to Pocket Rockets Casino across all games.

How are you defining 'revenue' here? Is it the amount players wager? The amount the lose? The amount you take as commission from their bets? Something else?

And what does "up to" mean? Sounds like some people will earn less than 30%. How is that decided?

Are there other rules? I seem to remember a dispute in the past where you refused to pay out when someone referred you a bunch of players because you didn't like something he did. It was a while ago now so I forget the details. Are the terms and conditions available somewhere?

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March 06, 2015, 12:37:31 PM
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New affiliate program
Earn up to 30% revenue from players you refer!

You can earn up to 30% of the monthly revenue of players you refer to Pocket Rockets Casino across all games.

How are you defining 'revenue' here? Is it the amount players wager? The amount the lose? The amount you take as commission from their bets? Something else?

And what does "up to" mean? Sounds like some people will earn less than 30%. How is that decided?

Are there other rules? I seem to remember a dispute in the past where you refused to pay out when someone referred you a bunch of players because you didn't like something he did. It was a while ago now so I forget the details. Are the terms and conditions available somewhere?

You can read more here https://pocketrocketscasino.eu/affiliate.
Revenue is players loss that month.

The dispute you are referring to was BAY who gave me negative trust, unjustifiably, because I stopped his affiliate account after he sold/rented a domain with my brand name in it to a competitor. He was paid. He lost future payments which would have totalled a very insignificant amount under the old structure. That's a very valid reason to stop someone's account.

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March 06, 2015, 01:30:18 PM
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Is the old affiliate system still active?

Also, that chat won't load for my on the dice or roulette page. Just get an empty box.

Tried it on chrome as well as firefox.

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March 06, 2015, 01:32:56 PM
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Is the old affiliate system still active?

Also, that chat won't load for my on the dice or roulette page. Just get an empty box.

Tried it on chrome as well as firefox.

There was an issue with cloudflare caching. I cleared it so it should work ok now.

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March 06, 2015, 03:35:36 PM
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You can read more here https://pocketrocketscasino.eu/affiliate.
Revenue is players loss that month.

Thanks. I have a few more questions if you don't mind answering:

1) If I refer two players, one loses 100 BTC in a month and the other wins 100 BTC in the same month, how much do I get for having referred them both? Does the profit cancel out the gain and so I get nothing? Or do I get 10% (or 20% or 30%, depending on the plan) of 100 BTC?

Basically if I refer a winning player does it hurt my payments?

2) Do you allow "rakeback deals"? Like where I refer a player and offer him half of my earnings from him as rakeback.

The dispute you are referring to was BAY who gave me negative trust, unjustifiably, because I stopped his affiliate account after he sold/rented a domain with my brand name in it to a competitor. He was paid. He lost future payments which would have totalled a very insignificant amount under the old structure. That's a very valid reason to stop someone's account.

OK I see. In fact it turns out you don't even need a reason to refuse payment or to change the payment amounts whenever you like:

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Pocket Rockets Casino reserves the right to suspend your account at any time.
Pocket Rockets Casino reserves the right to change these terms and conditions including revenue plans at any time.

I guess those kinds of terms are pretty standard. I don't usually read the small print, but your small print was big enough and short enough that it was easy to read. Maybe it would be better to hide those unpleasant terms in amongst a big wall of other text like the big boys do...

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March 06, 2015, 05:18:12 PM
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You can read more here https://pocketrocketscasino.eu/affiliate.
Revenue is players loss that month.

Thanks. I have a few more questions if you don't mind answering:

1) If I refer two players, one loses 100 BTC in a month and the other wins 100 BTC in the same month, how much do I get for having referred them both? Does the profit cancel out the gain and so I get nothing? Or do I get 10% (or 20% or 30%, depending on the plan) of 100 BTC?

Basically if I refer a winning player does it hurt my payments?

2) Do you allow "rakeback deals"? Like where I refer a player and offer him half of my earnings from him as rakeback.

The dispute you are referring to was BAY who gave me negative trust, unjustifiably, because I stopped his affiliate account after he sold/rented a domain with my brand name in it to a competitor. He was paid. He lost future payments which would have totalled a very insignificant amount under the old structure. That's a very valid reason to stop someone's account.

OK I see. In fact it turns out you don't even need a reason to refuse payment or to change the payment amounts whenever you like:

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Pocket Rockets Casino reserves the right to suspend your account at any time.
Pocket Rockets Casino reserves the right to change these terms and conditions including revenue plans at any time.

I guess those kinds of terms are pretty standard. I don't usually read the small print, but your small print was big enough and short enough that it was easy to read. Maybe it would be better to hide those unpleasant terms in amongst a big wall of other text like the big boys do...

1) If you were on the 30% plan in that situation you would earn 30 Bitcoin at the end of the month.

2) No. If you read the terms you must have a website or large social media presence to be in the program. If I suspect that you are offering rakeback deals through your site then I will deny the application. You don't get to just hand out a referral link without first being approved.

Regarding the small print. I would rather I didn't need to even have to put in such terms but there's a lot of people that always try and find some way to interpret things a way they were not intended to be and then cause all kinds of hassle so I put in a blanket statement like that in case of an extreme case I need to use it.

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March 06, 2015, 05:50:15 PM
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1) If I refer two players, one loses 100 BTC in a month and the other wins 100 BTC in the same month, how much do I get for having referred them both?

1) If you were on the 30% plan in that situation you would earn 30 Bitcoin at the end of the month.

That seems like a mistake. The combinated player EV for the two bets is -1% of 200 BTC, or -2 BTC. The affiliate's EV is more like +30 BTC. It seems to me that to cover this difference you and the investors need to somehow make up the extra 28 BTC of EV.

2) Do you allow "rakeback deals"? Like where I refer a player and offer him half of my earnings from him as rakeback.

2) No. If you read the terms you must have a website or large social media presence to be in the program. If I suspect that you are offering rakeback deals through your site then I will deny the application. You don't get to just hand out a referral link without first being approved.
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I don't see why you would care how an affiliate spends his earnings. If he wants to give some of it to the people he referred, why would that bother you? It would probably encourage them to play more and lose more, so it would be good for you. The bottom line is the same for you whatever the affiliate does with the coins he earns from your program isn't it?

Regarding the small print. I would rather I didn't need to even have to put in such terms but there's a lot of people that always try and find some way to interpret things a way they were not intended to be and then cause all kinds of hassle so I put in a blanket statement like that in case of an extreme case I need to use it.

I think it's better to be specific, like:

1) work out a set of terms and conditions that works
2) write them down
3) stick to them

Rather than having vague but unrealistic terms and conditions and adding "but none of this is binding" at the end as a catch all.

For example, the case I'm pointing out. Maybe you don't want someone referring two players who each bet 100 BTC because they see it's +EV to cooperate in such a way. If so, you really need to reconsider the whole scheme, rather than waiting for it to happen, deciding you don't want to pay out the 30 BTC and saying "we're not going to pay, and we don't have to tell you why due to the terms you agreed to".

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March 06, 2015, 06:06:50 PM
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1) If I refer two players, one loses 100 BTC in a month and the other wins 100 BTC in the same month, how much do I get for having referred them both?

1) If you were on the 30% plan in that situation you would earn 30 Bitcoin at the end of the month.

That seems like a mistake. The combinated player EV for the two bets is -1% of 200 BTC, or -2 BTC. The affiliate's EV is more like +30 BTC. It seems to me that to cover this difference you and the investors need to somehow make up the extra 28 BTC of EV.

2) Do you allow "rakeback deals"? Like where I refer a player and offer him half of my earnings from him as rakeback.

2) No. If you read the terms you must have a website or large social media presence to be in the program. If I suspect that you are offering rakeback deals through your site then I will deny the application. You don't get to just hand out a referral link without first being approved.

I don't see why you would care how an affiliate spends his earnings. If he wants to give some of it to the people he referred, why would that bother you? It would probably encourage them to play more and lose more, so it would be good for you. The bottom line is the same for you whatever the affiliate does with the coins he earns from your program isn't it?

Regarding the small print. I would rather I didn't need to even have to put in such terms but there's a lot of people that always try and find some way to interpret things a way they were not intended to be and then cause all kinds of hassle so I put in a blanket statement like that in case of an extreme case I need to use it.

I think it's better to be specific, like:

1) work out a set of terms and conditions that works
2) write them down
3) stick to them

Rather than having vague but unrealistic terms and conditions and adding "but none of this is binding" at the end as a catch all.

For example, the case I'm pointing out. Maybe you don't want someone referring two players who each bet 100 BTC because they see it's +EV to cooperate in such a way. If so, you really need to reconsider the whole scheme, rather than waiting for it to happen, deciding you don't want to pay out the 30 BTC and saying "we're not going to pay, and we don't have to tell you why due to the terms you agreed to".
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1) Yeah that's something that we discussed and it seems what you suggest is likely the best method. It may put large potential affiliates off though.
I'll review that.

2) It minimises there being the issue of affiliates trying to poach people off other affiliates or promotions from PRC.

I understand what you are saying about the terms but I will include a catch all just now, it's still standard on pretty much all sites. The terms will be finalised over the next few days also with a better promo page and tools for affiliates to use.

I'm looking to see what the initial interest in such a program is. I've not verified any affiliates yet and won't until there are more defined terms.

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March 06, 2015, 06:45:08 PM
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Is the new affiliate program replacing the old referral system?

I don't see neither my ref link or my affiliates anymore in my profile page.

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March 06, 2015, 06:50:52 PM
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Is the new affiliate program replacing the old referral system?

I don't see neither my ref link or my affiliates anymore in my profile page.

It is yeah. The old system made almost no money for affiliates. So it was barely worth having and affiliates had no incentive to go out there way to bring traffic.

Under this new system affiliates have a much greater incentive to promote the site.

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So it's 100% trusted or not?  Huh

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Is the new affiliate program replacing the old referral system?

I don't see neither my ref link or my affiliates anymore in my profile page.

It is yeah. The old system made almost no money for affiliates. So it was barely worth having and affiliates had no incentive to go out there way to bring traffic.

Under this new system affiliates have a much greater incentive to promote the site.

Dunno about that, I was pretty happy with my earnings from just one player (not active anymore, disappeared after re-branding).

Haven't done the math, but think the old system could be (on average) just as attractive as the new one.

Is there any chance you could leave the old system along with the new one? It was fully automated and you cannot have the same player signed up under both, so shouldn't be a problem.

Also, will referrers still be getting their commission from the already referred players? I don't have any active ones, but the others might.

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So it's 100% trusted or not?  Huh
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Doing a giveaway in the games and round thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=979336


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Doing a giveaway in the games and round thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=979336



thanks admin for great giveaway promo, i received my bonus there for play there,
i made few bets on roulette and my experience is pretty profitable with that. Grin
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Doing a giveaway in the games and round thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=979336



thanks admin for great giveaway promo, i received my bonus there for play there,
i made few bets on roulette and my experience is pretty profitable with that. Grin

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Glad you liked it.

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Doing a giveaway in the games and round thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=979336



Hi Dean, Thanks for the giveaway for Roulette trial. I really enjoyed playing there and doubled my balance and was able to withdraw successfully. I have a few suggestions.

1. The game needs UN-bet feature, like usually other Roulette tables have. The left click places the chip, which is working fine but the right click on the same chip removes that and I tried to do that but it didn't work. The clear bets function works but sometimes one just needs to remove 1 or 2 chips and that's where the right click to remove a chip function comes handy.

2. Add a 1k Satoshi chip also. Sometimes one needs to play lots of small covering bets and it would be very useful to have a 1k satoshi chip.

3. Allow people to chat who have made the wagering requirement on Roulette table.

Thanks

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Doing a giveaway in the games and round thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=979336



Hi Dean, Thanks for the giveaway for Roulette trial. I really enjoyed playing there and doubled my balance and was able to withdraw successfully. I have a few suggestions.

1. The game needs UN-bet feature, like usually other Roulette tables have. The left click places the chip, which is working fine but the right click on the same chip removes that and I tried to do that but it didn't work. The clear bets function works but sometimes one just needs to remove 1 or 2 chips and that's where the right click to remove a chip function comes handy.

2. Add a 1k Satoshi chip also. Sometimes one needs to play lots of small covering bets and it would be very useful to have a 1k satoshi chip.

3. Allow people to chat who have made the wagering requirement on Roulette table.

Thanks

Hi, glad you liked the game.

Regarding 1) and 3) Those are on the to do list and will be fixed soon.

Not got any plans to reduce the bet size yet but always open to suggestions.

Thanks
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Doing a giveaway in the games and round thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=979336



Hi Dean, Thanks for the giveaway for Roulette trial. I really enjoyed playing there and doubled my balance and was able to withdraw successfully. I have a few suggestions.

1. The game needs UN-bet feature, like usually other Roulette tables have. The left click places the chip, which is working fine but the right click on the same chip removes that and I tried to do that but it didn't work. The clear bets function works but sometimes one just needs to remove 1 or 2 chips and that's where the right click to remove a chip function comes handy.

2. Add a 1k Satoshi chip also. Sometimes one needs to play lots of small covering bets and it would be very useful to have a 1k satoshi chip.

3. Allow people to chat who have made the wagering requirement on Roulette table.

Thanks

Hi, glad you liked the game.

Regarding 1) and 3) Those are on the to do list and will be fixed soon.

Not got any plans to reduce the bet size yet but always open to suggestions.

Thanks
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I think it is best to have a 0.001 chip , anyway thanks Dean for the giveaway, made a few roll on rouletter and gain some, withdraw it and it arrive at the network instantly  Smiley

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