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June 20, 2015, 08:17:32 AM
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Hey,

I believe lovehina/defeted's address is 1H7rHqFhmZnh6PBYKJso1YHAAFMEkQE6DM

I was unable to find other high rollers addy that was betting thousands of btc per bet, but even if there is addy you still couldn't prove anything. If Dean wanted to scam the investors he could have normally deposited to hes account to make it less suspicious. My point is that at the end of the day there is no way to prove if Dean scammed investors or if the bets were all legit.


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June 20, 2015, 08:20:03 AM
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Lmao, what are you guys talking about Tongue

The site profit has never been higher, it would be really literally dean giving away $150k to his investors. (How is that scamming the investors?) I cannot see how people think this is logical. Or just for some stats, really? xD

But yeh, you can just watch the cold wallet address and see where the big deposits coming from Smiley For example I am fairly sure this is the depo addy of god/lovehina https://blockchain.info/address/15CCgURM6FSs98ThtzU2DjvnTc2JCWoKzT as it is connected to some earlier withdrawals of "defeated" account (and seems to be correct based on the bets/loss he has.) If I am correct we can probably see that 528 BTC going to the public cold wallet later today.

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June 20, 2015, 08:26:02 AM
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If you tried to fake these thousand coins bets wouldn't you scare your investors away lol. Doesn't make sense to me  Cool

Agreed with you these fake bets with hundred of coins these kind of scary bets worry sign about big investors once they see profit dropped suddenly by these fake bets

Dont jump into conclusion yet as this is none fake bets I would say. Basically it is pointless for Dean to fake a bets as it will only scare a potential investor. Also that you should know that Dean profitted himself from the investor as well so no point for him to fake such large bet. Even if he decided to "steal" from the investor , it will be much better for him to do it a smaller wager

amount of these bets are really out sense

Just because you never saw such huge bets, it doesnt mean that it is a fake bets. Considering mech is an old time gambler then 1k BTC is really a small amount for him

If I am correct we can probably see that 528 BTC going to the public cold wallet later today.

If this is the same guy as greystoke then the site has gain quite a lot of profit from him


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June 20, 2015, 08:26:41 AM
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Lmao, what are you guys talking about Tongue

The site profit has never been higher, it would be really literally dean giving away $150k to his investors. (How is that scamming the investors?) I cannot see how people think this is logical. Or just for some stats, really? xD

But yeh, you can just watch the cold wallet address and see where the big deposits coming from Smiley For example I am fairly sure this is the depo addy of god/lovehina https://blockchain.info/address/15CCgURM6FSs98ThtzU2DjvnTc2JCWoKzT as it is connected to some earlier withdrawals of "defeated" account (and seems to be correct based on the bets/loss he has.) If I am correct we can probably see that 528 BTC going to the public cold wallet later today.

They seem like trolls or maybe they're just trying to boost their post count by having seemingly legit posts.
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June 20, 2015, 09:26:30 AM
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trafficolaa and crazykiddo are clearly trolls, finnile or competing site shills (probably dadice).

Any future posts by them will be deleted, I'll leave the existing ones so you can see the incoherent nonsensical rambling and judge for yourself.

Everyone knows PRC is legit. Faking stats is impossible since all bets ever made are public. Many people have scraped the database and made backups so I can't change or fake anything.

Also for me to lose all that money to fake stats would be the most stupid thing possible. Dooglus has said that on a thread, reddit and in PRC chat. Losing 1000's just to get top of NLNicos site? (great site btw).
You do know all that money goes to investors?

Unlike some stupid site that doesn't respect users privacy there is no way I would give random trolls deposit addresses of multiple players.

Also, proof of funds. https://blockchain.info/address/1FhxjhFb1YudGC1vtV4FuLpQc2uHzq3XFd

When I was looking to sell PRC I had some other ideas that I wanted to look into.
People in PRC chat know this. Some included a Bitcoin bank and a sports exchange.
I never got the offers I was happy to accept, the best offer was around 2000 Bitcoin. You can see the site has made more than that in last 10 months so I'm not going to sell for that price obviously.
The site would only have been sold to someone who can provide 100% of bankroll, not have invest option, otherwise they would have a hard time making their money back.

So after spending a month or two looking for buyers and researching other things I'm back focusing on PRC. Which I think investors and players are more happy with anyway.

Expect to see god things over the next few months.

Not got much else to say on this.
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June 20, 2015, 10:52:45 AM
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Hello Dean i am not part of any other dice i am just a regular player of dice site so my intention does not to troll about PRC, i like every provably fair because that was just a question and thanks to clarify the situation about these high amount of bets and i appreciate it and making the statement about to clear the doubt regarding this, sorry if you get me in wrong side and i hope you will understand my situation for this, 
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June 20, 2015, 01:20:08 PM
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Hello Dean i am not part of any other dice i am just a regular player of dice site so my intention does not to troll about PRC, i like every provably fair because that was just a question and thanks to clarify the situation about these high amount of bets and i appreciate it and making the statement about to clear the doubt regarding this, sorry if you get me in wrong side and i hope you will understand my situation for this, 

What exactly are you asking? If he lost 800+ of his own bitcoins to investors in a crazy publicity stunt?
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June 20, 2015, 01:23:47 PM
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I guess he just only saw 1 screenshot and didn't see the full "story" :p No worries IMO Smiley (TBH I read his first reply like 5 times and still don't really understand what he said, but ah well xd)

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June 20, 2015, 01:31:11 PM
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I really like the color contrast.  It makes it really easy to see everything.    Especially when playing cards for multiple hours at a time, it's real easy on the eyes.

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June 20, 2015, 01:39:19 PM
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So insane this betting, profit down to ~500 BTC then up to ~2300 BTC  Shocked
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June 20, 2015, 05:38:20 PM
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Hello Dean i am not part of any other dice i am just a regular player of dice site so my intention does not to troll about PRC, i like every provably fair because that was just a question and thanks to clarify the situation about these high amount of bets and i appreciate it and making the statement about to clear the doubt regarding this, sorry if you get me in wrong side and i hope you will understand my situation for this, 

OK I apologise.
I just seen a few users post at the same time and to be honest maybe misinterpreted your post.

Glad you feel it's cleared up.
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June 21, 2015, 04:49:24 AM
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Hi guys,

Who do you know/recommend, if anyone at all, as someone independent from prc who I can email with details about some rolls on prc who would look into it - I cant seem to get them to verify using the link in their site?

Thanks

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June 21, 2015, 04:54:18 AM
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Hi guys,

Who do you know/recommend, if anyone at all, as someone independent from prc who I can email with details about some rolls on prc who would look into it - I cant seem to get them to verify using the link in their site?

Thanks



I already emailed, and replied to your follow up on how to verify. You are copying the seed wrong, I sent you what it should be. They verify OK for me and match the image you sent.

That site is a site owned/run by a trusted 3rd party forum member NLNico.

Try again with what I messaged you, you will see they match.

Thanks


EDIT:
So anyone can help you verify when I'm not here.
This is the image with the rolls he made https://imgur.com/kbdhvDb

The client seed is gMJ3gBNl36
Server seed is 3u4McEAe4IjnLEzf3tBS42eImzOHG1Aln73i4a6EWGYBdP90zMX9V0TvylD1a5DxsTVxhtLCaqVB4L2 PsauRphM=

Last nonce is 132 and start was 32

Direct link to use NLNicos site
http://dicesites.com/pocketrocketscasino/verifier?ss=3u4McEAe4IjnLEzf3tBS42eImzOHG1Aln73i4a6EWGYBdP90zMX9V0TvylD1a5DxsTVxhtLCaqVB4L2PsauRphM%3D&cs=gMJ3gBNl36&ln=132&n=32

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June 21, 2015, 05:09:17 AM
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Hi guys,

Who do you know/recommend, if anyone at all, as someone independent from prc who I can email with details about some rolls on prc who would look into it - I cant seem to get them to verify using the link in their site?

Thanks



I already emailed, and replied to your follow up on how to verify. You are copying the seed wrong, I sent you what it should be. They verify OK for me and match the image you sent.

That site is a site owned/run by a trusted 3rd party forum member NLNico.

Try again with what I messaged you, you will see they match.

Thanks


EDIT:
So anyone can help you verify when I'm not here.
This is the image with the rolls he made https://imgur.com/kbdhvDb

The client seed is gMJ3gBNl36
Server seed is 3u4McEAe4IjnLEzf3tBS42eImzOHG1Aln73i4a6EWGYBdP90zMX9V0TvylD1a5DxsTVxhtLCaqVB4L2 PsauRphM=

Last nonce is 132 and start was 32

Direct link to use NLNicos site
http://dicesites.com/pocketrocketscasino/verifier?ss=3u4McEAe4IjnLEzf3tBS42eImzOHG1Aln73i4a6EWGYBdP90zMX9V0TvylD1a5DxsTVxhtLCaqVB4L2PsauRphM%3D&cs=gMJ3gBNl36&ln=132&n=32

Thanks


But that says:

"
Result
We generated a different server seed hash:

226CD6493C707488D23DF4283A0DA92A2E30AFA2DCAA093A37C7ABEEC6B560A59F2BA60F80B60B2 3AA680E090386613BAA68C4E166CE3DDF4F7039442C2EBA6E

This means the rolls generated below might be NOT correct. Check if the server seed and hash you provided are correct. If not, contact the site owner or ask others for help.
"

What does this mean???

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June 21, 2015, 05:27:05 AM
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It's all good. I trust NLNico who has looked into it.
All re a 'space'.

Smiley

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June 21, 2015, 07:12:53 AM
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It's all good. I trust NLNico who has looked into it.
All re a 'space'.

Smiley



From what I've seen on other sites, people usually make the mistake of putting the server seed hash in the place where the actual seed is supposed to be, and then freak out that its not verifying. Glad you were able to make it work.
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June 21, 2015, 08:05:10 AM
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Dean, I've noticed blackjack and roulette have a different provably fair mechanism than dice - one without nonces. Why is that? I think its quite impractical to have to note a hash before EVERY hand in order to verify all my plays. A nonce based system is the solution to this problem, and since you have already implemented it on dice, why not use it on blackjack also?
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June 22, 2015, 02:39:38 AM
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If I invested in your site say 0.1 how much would I expect back in 24 hours?

No one will be able to give you an estimate. All depends on players' luck.

You should always see such investment as a long-term thing, sometimes very long term.

It not only depends on the players' luck, but also the total wagered amount on the site, the % of your investment in the bankroll and your risk setting.

Actually you can give an estimate on average, this table shows the PRCDice bank is turned over every 2 days. With a 0.9% investors edge investors should gain 0.45% in 24 hours. Of Course the result in any given 24 hours varies wildly but that is the theoretical average since the 1st of October. I have not yet had a think about how leveraging and different kelly settings will affect this but it will.

More valuably the table shows how much investors have really made in the last 93 days is 39.49% which is 0.42% per day.

So with more than 3 plus months of data the theoretical return for 24 hours is 0.45% and the actual return is 0.42%. I'll call that a pretty good estimate ON AVERAGE, in any one given day you can't say Smiley lots good stats here by the way

http://www.bitcoin-dice-guide.com/dice-investment-comparison/

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June 25, 2015, 07:05:48 PM
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If you want to figure how how much the site makes, take the daily volume and multiply it by 1%, that should be the average daily profit. Sometimes it's more, sometimes less, you will probably have large swings, but on average it is one percent of the volume wagered.
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June 30, 2015, 05:09:49 PM
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After tomorrows leaderboard prizes for daily and monthly top wagered are paid out there will be no more leaderboard prizes for the dice game.

It's been discussed that there could be a much better promotion for players and so new ideas will be looked at.

In other news the integration of softswiss games is being tested and things look good so hopefully we will have the new casino games live this week.
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