brizio71
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February 02, 2015, 07:56:44 AM |
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That's a totally SCAM He stole me 1.75 BTC with double payment, I wrote hime 2 Mail , 2 twet and never answer me....that now I see people that have pay in the last hour...then the label of double pay has been remove from blockchain.info and all transaction deleted, why  The game was over when the above TX became confirmed. This was not a successful double spend, it was a lawful replace unconfirmed 0fee transaction with one having a fee. Though I've pointed out that in this case the greater fee was the long chain of TXs, but we wonder if anyone cares. When the TX chain was removed from B.I the software started making payments where it left off, using the now 'unspent' coins. True to it's name the Ponzi payed out when the bank had the funds, all yee had to do to get paid was flood the addresses quicker than anyone else at the correct time. That's not correct because I was first on the queue of many other !!!! The Ponzi should work in order of payment ....then when I have sent the money the found was available !!! this is all the transaction declared payed on the weekly site that has never been payed: https://blockchain.info/tx-index/7ba930827cdb73e23fb974bd1e9cc50672ea899be4e31b686007ea50822aafaehttps://blockchain.info/tx-index/f95a14cfb0c176721c8cef8cc5a55351d215ea00e540cff13c8b8f5f8a1e4669https://blockchain.info/tx-index/c7103e51a277fafffc5ea043f76f3a600483d9fd54b47bf2676a91b86c984e13https://blockchain.info/tx-index/496320f7a39f4dab7ffa1968a312d1df21f7ec203c28ee01c523212965e86543https://blockchain.info/tx-index/f7eb345f2c75f105dff20680f7ef2917ab6d776d06df2308d5fb2b23a678f23chttps://blockchain.info/tx-index/ab453060f48683ad9cc6e4501148d9dce9dfd97d4e36a3aaac6cb25d465e9ef9https://blockchain.info/tx-index/e205ae1ee89208a7ad582b23d196da7df77439a4ba7776593373053697d55d08https://blockchain.info/tx-index/ba9189d70f77af51af0795f088e1c2faff7d46561e6badb157feade969ed3934this is unfair also por ponzi !!!! How the people can play again knowing that can happen to everyone I wanna have at least my investment back that is 1,33 BTC !!!! |
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February 02, 2015, 08:30:42 AM |
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This is the risk of ponzi.. sorry about that.. but i think your money gone far away  .. never fair ok?...  ... i lost at here only 0.06BTC and never comeback... althought i'm not a last of the round( after me have 500 transaction) |
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cheako911
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February 02, 2015, 08:43:24 AM |
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That's a totally SCAM He stole me 1.75 BTC with double payment, I wrote hime 2 Mail , 2 twet and never answer me....that now I see people that have pay in the last hour...then the label of double pay has been remove from blockchain.info and all transaction deleted, why The game was over when the above TX became confirmed. This was not a successful double spend, it was a lawful replace unconfirmed 0fee transaction with one having a fee. Though I've pointed out that in this case the greater fee was the long chain of TXs, but we wonder if anyone cares. When the TX chain was removed from B.I the software started making payments where it left off, using the now 'unspent' coins. True to it's name the Ponzi payed out when the bank had the funds, all yee had to do to get paid was flood the addresses quicker than anyone else at the correct time. Told ya. They just don't care. They still allow double spends. If anyone wanted to, he can simply do a double spend attack, and steal a lot of people's money like some people are already doing in there. There is a good defense against this. 1. If there are unconfirmed transactions, look for the zero fee. 2. Send a small amount and get the payout. 3. Split this payout for the total number of planned payouts and a few extra to be further split. 4. Base all your deposits on these outputs. If the 0fee TX is undo so are all of your deposits. One may also employ what 1Excalibur did and pay in at the *correct* time to get the max payouts. It was plenty possible for everyone to get at least part of their deposits back, just had to pay into the Ponzi. |
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brizio71
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February 02, 2015, 08:54:30 AM |
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This is the risk of ponzi.. sorry about that.. but i think your money gone far away .. never fair ok?... ... i lost at here only 0.06BTC and never comeback... althought i'm not a last of the round( after me have 500 transaction) The risk of ponzi is different is not related to unfair payment !!!! In this case who wanna play anymore if u r on correct time for investment but you receive back unconfirmed payment that later will be delete Why he have solve this problem on 24h and not on weekly Why he doesn't respond to any mail, message or twett anymore ? |
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cheako911
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February 02, 2015, 09:32:28 AM |
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I don't think the site claims to make payouts in order, though I can see where you'd get that assessment. This happened to everyone, including 1Excalibur, not anyone. That seems fair to me. blockchain.info clearly indicated a problem and is a documented part of bitcoin, I even read that the "fix" is to double spend the output including a fee. So the Ponzi software aside it's like complaining about clouds blocking the sun on a rainy day. This even effected the 1Fees address and I bet that stings. |
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cheako911
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February 02, 2015, 09:48:44 AM |
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The more I look at this the more I can't see the fault, the site claims to provide %130 when the bank has funds and it did just that. Embedded into Ponzi is the understanding that this will not be the case for everyone. If you played all you had then you are done, but if you've got some change playing now is viable. We already know what happens on double-spend, the payouts are skipped for some, while later there is a pot that anyone may collect from. It's only those that are betting their shirts who would not be able to cover the ante to keep playing.
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brizio71
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February 02, 2015, 10:32:07 AM |
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The more I look at this the more I can't see the fault, the site claims to provide %130 when the bank has funds and it did just that. Embedded into Ponzi is the understanding that this will not be the case for everyone. If you played all you had then you are done, but if you've got some change playing now is viable. We already know what happens on double-spend, the payouts are skipped for some, while later there is a pot that anyone may collect from. It's only those that are betting their shirts who would not be able to cover the ante to keep playing.
I don't understand; in case of double payment problem the script should block and wait for some input, then on the weekly ponzi site is indicate that I have been payed but this is not true ..... I send the BTC without double payment issue, why I have to loose all my money for a script problem (this problem happen on 24h too and as been solved many days ago, why is still present on weekly ?). How all other people can play anymore with this problem present |
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cheako911
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February 02, 2015, 10:54:00 AM |
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The more I look at this the more I can't see the fault, the site claims to provide %130 when the bank has funds and it did just that. Embedded into Ponzi is the understanding that this will not be the case for everyone. If you played all you had then you are done, but if you've got some change playing now is viable. We already know what happens on double-spend, the payouts are skipped for some, while later there is a pot that anyone may collect from. It's only those that are betting their shirts who would not be able to cover the ante to keep playing.
I don't understand; in case of double payment problem the script should block and wait for some input, then on the weekly ponzi site is indicate that I have been payed but this is not true ..... I send the BTC without double payment issue, why I have to loose all my money for a script problem (this problem happen on 24h too and as been solved many days ago, why is still present on weekly ?). Such features are built directly into the bitcoin software, because that's where such logic should be. There is no "double payment problem" and the chance for a "double spend" in bitcoin is near impossible. The bitcoin network can drop TXs if they are never confirmed or become orphaned, this is regular and happens all the time. How all other people can play anymore with this problem present A few steps: 1. Send BTC to the 1Week8mnA address. 2. Wait for return on investment. 3. Did investment return? Yes: Done. No: 4. Check for unconfirmed transactions, if your payment is not confirmed it may be dropped by the network. Your payment may be dropped, but the funds remain! No: You've lost, done. Yes: Return to step 1. See historical example where this worked out for 1Exca117ik6cR2mySwfpz4GGrUGRx5p3Eh The above steps are proven to work. |
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cheako911
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February 02, 2015, 11:03:11 AM |
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Weekly Ponzy does pay out %130 after taking a %5 cut, it just doesn't always do so in order. I understand that this caused some to lose at Ponzi, winners as well exist.
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February 02, 2015, 12:23:20 PM |
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is it worth to invest now or it is dead again ?
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ninjaboon
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February 02, 2015, 12:29:54 PM |
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is it worth to invest now or it is dead again ?
I thought it died on the Week #2 round. |
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February 02, 2015, 12:35:05 PM |
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is it worth to invest now or it is dead again ?
I thought it died on the Week #2 round. Its still going literally 1000x stronger than your game even though its "dead" lol. |
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February 02, 2015, 01:43:11 PM |
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hi!!! if i remeber well... the blockchain time it is not accurate... so, in a transaction, can be assigned a time older or newer than what is in reality |
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brizio71
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February 02, 2015, 01:45:46 PM |
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hi!!! if i remeber well... the blockchain time it is not accurate... so, in a transaction, can be assigned a time older or newer than what is in reality two days of error |
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February 02, 2015, 01:46:54 PM |
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This is the risk of ponzi.. sorry about that.. but i think your money gone far away .. never fair ok?... ... i lost at here only 0.06BTC and never comeback... althought i'm not a last of the round( after me have 500 transaction) The risk of ponzi is different is not related to unfair payment !!!! In this case who wanna play anymore if u r on correct time for investment but you receive back unconfirmed payment that later will be delete Why he have solve this problem on 24h and not on weekly Why he doesn't respond to any mail, message or twett anymore ? so sorry for your lost, its a risk as stated before and OP is banned, he seldom online twitter, perhaps he forgot to check his mailbox too? |
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February 02, 2015, 05:32:29 PM |
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so im going to assume this ponzi is officially dead lol.
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unsoindovo
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February 02, 2015, 05:58:07 PM |
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so im going to assume this ponzi is officially dead lol.
it not seems so!!! i can see a lot of transactions done today!!! 148 tx exactly! |
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February 02, 2015, 06:22:55 PM |
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Yeah I'm glad I stopped invested since last weekly. Too much problems and now under 2BTC for the daily...
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February 02, 2015, 06:29:14 PM |
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Yeah I'm glad I stopped invested since last weekly. Too much problems and now under 2BTC for the daily...
I'm still grabbing some BTC each day on daily.. Weekly is still the preferred but I'm keeping up with daily.. |
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