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April 10, 2013, 02:03:49 AM
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I can't withdraw my funds! I get the error Transaction failed(incorrect address?)

i think it is again the bug....

same here.  hope this gets sorted out soon

The hot wallet is empty. First coming, first served, each time a block is found, the hot wallet have 50 LTC.

If someone here wants to get more than 50 LTC (even less), I say to him good luck bro, you will need a lot, LOL. Undecided

well, so its only mater of time until my withdraw is complete....
Well, no, if what was said above is accurate, it's more of a lottery or perhaps more apt, a radio station call-in contest and you just have to be the 1st caller or two.

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Original thread starts here:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=92716.msg1782471#msg1782471
Theft discussion thread is here:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=172667.0
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April 10, 2013, 02:10:07 AM
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I can't withdraw my funds! I get the error Transaction failed(incorrect address?)

i think it is again the bug....

same here.  hope this gets sorted out soon

The hot wallet is empty. First coming, first served, each time a block is found, the hot wallet have 50 LTC.

If someone here wants to get more than 50 LTC (even less), I say to him good luck bro, you will need a lot, LOL. Undecided

well, so its only mater of time until my withdraw is complete....
Well, no, if what was said above is accurate, it's more of a lottery or perhaps more apt, a radio station call-in contest and you just have to be the 1st caller or two.

That's what I have understood on the #notrollin channel on Freenode, but as everyone know here, the admin is at the hospital and this bug will be fixed in a few days when he will be able to access his cold wallet.
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April 10, 2013, 02:33:01 AM
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PPS in notroll is at 0.00013213928189407000

in coinotron.com is at 0.00023 why?  Huh Huh Huh

Coinotron take a fee of 2%

In my opinion Niksasa have to change a some things.

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Pool is at diff 32 again. (except for vardiff ofc), coinotron is at diff 64. And coinotron has a 5% fee aswell for ltc pps.

And the bug with 24h earnings, please pm me your username.

hi, i can't cashout too, i don't have that much, but i always cashout to my wallet at btc-e.com, i play with it so......

if possible to cashout, send it to my LTC Wallet -> LMPK4F1tk6tLXtG7nTwkAFtuHZSkawuJQY

and if someone would like to, i don't know, help me raise a little bit more fast, donate to it Cheesy would be cool, also i'm have a plan of making this website that we can earn btc, where there is no WAY of loosing BTC, if u like it, donate please, spread the word about it.
Thx for all, i hope notroll.in get to normal asap.....

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April 10, 2013, 03:34:19 AM
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The pool owner is a THIEF!  He just robbed people off their earnings even if they didn't mine past 2 days.

He basically chopped a huge % off of total LTC's that people had.

YES, I understand that you were in hospital and all that but the users don't have to pay your hospital bills!

It was YOUR fault that you were not able to monitor the server, why are you making the users pay for something that is YOUR OWN FAULT?Huh

Check yourself.

He is not a thief....he was double paying for 24 hours as I understand it.  Adjusting the balance in accounts to correct this over-payment is the correct course of action as far as I am concerned.  What, he should ask everyone to pay back the unearned coins on their own honor?  somehow I doubt that would work too well.  

I am the largest miner on the site, so its not like I do not have a vested interest here.  

Think about this from Nicksasa'a perspective:  Does it really make sense to "Steal" a small percentage of everyone's accounts, and completely obliterate his reputation and ruin his pool?  It seems to me the earnings from running the largest LTC pool in the world outweigh the meaningless one time profit from such a theft.  

Think on it, and take it easy with the accusations of theft.  Perhaps some of the claw backs were not calculated correctly, but there is a way to deal with that without resorting to defaming someone. 

Ok, while thief might be harsh, if what happened here is what everyone thinks, it's certainly a very poor decision.  The adjustment made to just my funds alone was ~$40 worth of LTC, going by today's price, for the time I was mining on notroll. This is $40 I would have if I had stayed at another pool.  Consider looking at it like this, your employer comes to you and says, hey, last week we accidentally overpaid a small percentage of our employees, so to make up for it this week, we're going to lower everyone's pay to compensate.  This just isn't how business is operated.  If a business owner makes a mistake or a poor decision, they pay for it, by either eating the cost or going out of business.  The world is harsh, but there it is.

Now as a miner, I have to ask myself if I feel comfortable staying on a pool that feels it is appropriate to take my funds when the operator makes a mistake or the pool is bugged.  Sorry, I'm just not that altruistic as to pay for someone elses mistake.

ps. I'm jealous of your hashing power, what kind of rigs are you running?

BEWARE:  NOTROLL.IN POOL MAY STEAL YOUR GENERATED LTC
Original thread starts here:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=92716.msg1782471#msg1782471
Theft discussion thread is here:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=172667.0
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April 10, 2013, 04:16:27 AM
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Welcome to a free market environment without any type of regulation.

This is the assumed risk of mining in a pool.

I bet none of us wouldve complained about the double gains if the hot wallet wouldve stayed full for a few more weeks now would we.
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April 10, 2013, 04:27:27 AM
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+36 Hours and could not make a withdrawal, Transaction failed (incorrect address?) Wait the more you're good to abuse
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April 10, 2013, 04:38:11 AM
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+36 Hours and could not make a withdrawal, Transaction failed (incorrect address?) Wait the more you're good to abuse
o don`t really mind if i can`t cashout every ltc, but i like to do it anyway....

well, after all if we don`t loose a lot of its, its okay i guess, but would be good if the start to care more about the pool, try to make it better, on twetter, i saw last post as from 2012, i tough WOW, really? boy that's old new dude....
anyway, hope it gets fixed, i would like to sell it to a fiend of my by $7
he had bucks of loads of money, not sure if u can read this, not THAT good with English yet....sorry for writing mistakes

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April 10, 2013, 06:02:57 AM
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I'm mining somewhere else until I get paid.
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April 10, 2013, 06:17:38 AM
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GO HELL
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April 10, 2013, 06:23:06 AM
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GO HELL

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April 10, 2013, 06:58:00 AM
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GO HELL

Go west, life is peaceful there.

he stole a lot from me =.=, no reply my pm

if everyone earned duble why don't he just apply workaround like diasable withdraw

before apply fix
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April 10, 2013, 07:35:53 AM
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The pool owner is a THIEF!  He just robbed people off their earnings even if they didn't mine past 2 days.

He basically chopped a huge % off of total LTC's that people had.

YES, I understand that you were in hospital and all that but the users don't have to pay your hospital bills!

It was YOUR fault that you were not able to monitor the server, why are you making the users pay for something that is YOUR OWN FAULT?Huh

Check yourself.

He is not a thief....he was double paying for 24 hours as I understand it.  Adjusting the balance in accounts to correct this over-payment is the correct course of action as far as I am concerned.  What, he should ask everyone to pay back the unearned coins on their own honor?  somehow I doubt that would work too well.  

I am the largest miner on the site, so its not like I do not have a vested interest here.  

Think about this from Nicksasa'a perspective:  Does it really make sense to "Steal" a small percentage of everyone's accounts, and completely obliterate his reputation and ruin his pool?  It seems to me the earnings from running the largest LTC pool in the world outweigh the meaningless one time profit from such a theft.  

Think on it, and take it easy with the accusations of theft.  Perhaps some of the claw backs were not calculated correctly, but there is a way to deal with that without resorting to defaming someone.
 


He took 118ltc from my account, i was doing 5 per day ! How is that "correct course of action"?! Its ok to take that double earnings, in my case it would be like 5-10 ltc not more. Also 25% is not a "small percentage".
Now i cannot withdraw the rest of my coins, im just waiting to be robbed again.

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April 10, 2013, 08:02:15 AM
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Why I can not Withdraw LTC? Write - Transaction failed(incorrect address?) but the correct my address LTC
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April 10, 2013, 09:06:13 AM
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Shouldn't it be easy enough to identify which users got double-paid, and simply set their balances to negative the amount of over-payment? In turn, they'll have to mine their way back into the positive to gain coins again. Of course, there will be a few who simply took the double-pay and bailed. Not much can be done about that.
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April 10, 2013, 10:13:43 AM
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when will this be fixed?

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April 10, 2013, 10:31:35 AM
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Shouldn't it be easy enough to identify which users got double-paid, and simply set their balances to negative the amount of over-payment? In turn, they'll have to mine their way back into the positive to gain coins again. Of course, there will be a few who simply took the double-pay and bailed. Not much can be done about that.

Because you know you so want to look at every line in the table for every user, and worker. Maybe he'll hire you to do it! Get the support going and all.

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April 10, 2013, 11:39:09 AM
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I'm mining somewhere else until I get paid.
which pool are u mining now? is it better? does it accept new user?

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April 10, 2013, 11:41:13 AM
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when will this be fixed?

Maybe if you read the thread you would know the admin is at the hospital RIGHT NOW and he can't access to his cold wallet to be able to refund the hot wallet (due to a fixed bug now but some people were paid double and there is a hole now). Right now this wallet is refund by block found, so 50 LTC each time, and that happen.. what.. between 1 and 6 times per hour? So all the pool have between 50 and 300 LTC to withdraw per hour. First coming, first served.
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April 10, 2013, 12:14:01 PM
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when will this be fixed?

Maybe if you read the thread you would know the admin is at the hospital RIGHT NOW and he can't access to his cold wallet to be able to refund the hot wallet (due to a fixed bug now but some people were paid double and there is a hole now). Right now this wallet is refund by block found, so 50 LTC each time, and that happen.. what.. between 1 and 6 times per hour? So all the pool have between 50 and 300 LTC to withdraw per hour. First coming, first served.

Thanks for the quick explanation. I was coming in to complain, turns out I wasn't the only user affected. I should really follow pool news more often.  Roll Eyes
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April 10, 2013, 01:13:01 PM
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We have these things called computers...?

When you look up your order history on Amazon, do you think that a human has manually read through millions of database entries to find the transactions that are yours?

Shouldn't it be easy enough to identify which users got double-paid, and simply set their balances to negative the amount of over-payment? In turn, they'll have to mine their way back into the positive to gain coins again. Of course, there will be a few who simply took the double-pay and bailed. Not much can be done about that.

Because you know you so want to look at every line in the table for every user, and worker. Maybe he'll hire you to do it! Get the support going and all.

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