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July 14, 2015, 10:27:54 PM
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What do you think? I think I might be close. I'm guessing $10,000 per bitcoin by then.

100K maybe, but I highly doubt Bitcoin will increase in value to $10,000 in just 5 years. If this is the case, I imagine some sort of event would have to take place that challenges the stability of the USD.

You're thinking of a stable $10,000. But bitcoin went from $100 to $1000 in a bubble. So the question is can bitcoin reach a stable value of $1000 in five years (and then have an unsustainable rally to $10,000), not whether bitcoin can stabilize at $10,000 in five years. With two halvings, I think it can.

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July 14, 2015, 10:59:21 PM
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What do you think? I think I might be close. I'm guessing $10,000 per bitcoin by then.

100K maybe, but I highly doubt Bitcoin will increase in value to $10,000 in just 5 years. If this is the case, I imagine some sort of event would have to take place that challenges the stability of the USD.

You're thinking of a stable $10,000. But bitcoin went from $100 to $1000 in a bubble. So the question is can bitcoin reach a stable value of $1000 in five years (and then have an unsustainable rally to $10,000), not whether bitcoin can stabilize at $10,000 in five years. With two halvings, I think it can.


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July 16, 2015, 01:18:13 PM
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What do you think? I think I might be close. I'm guessing $10,000 per bitcoin by then.

100K maybe, but I highly doubt Bitcoin will increase in value to $10,000 in just 5 years. If this is the case, I imagine some sort of event would have to take place that challenges the stability of the USD.

You're thinking of a stable $10,000. But bitcoin went from $100 to $1000 in a bubble. So the question is can bitcoin reach a stable value of $1000 in five years (and then have an unsustainable rally to $10,000), not whether bitcoin can stabilize at $10,000 in five years. With two halvings, I think it can.


Maybe with 3 halvings.
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July 16, 2015, 01:49:03 PM
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What do you think? I think I might be close. I'm guessing $10,000 per bitcoin by then.

100K maybe, but I highly doubt Bitcoin will increase in value to $10,000 in just 5 years. If this is the case, I imagine some sort of event would have to take place that challenges the stability of the USD.

You're thinking of a stable $10,000. But bitcoin went from $100 to $1000 in a bubble. So the question is can bitcoin reach a stable value of $1000 in five years (and then have an unsustainable rally to $10,000), not whether bitcoin can stabilize at $10,000 in five years. With two halvings, I think it can.


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Agreed, especially with more, bigger money paying more attention than it had in the last bubbles
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July 17, 2015, 09:13:43 AM
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If all of the bitcoins are only held by a few individuals, then there is no way for the price to become that large. The only way is for the bitcoins to be spread among many people so it can be used effectively for a variety of services. And in that case, there is very little likelihood of you becoming millionaire.
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July 17, 2015, 10:45:39 AM
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If all of the bitcoins are only held by a few individuals, then there is no way for the price to become that large. The only way is for the bitcoins to be spread among many people so it can be used effectively for a variety of services. And in that case, there is very little likelihood of you becoming millionaire.

The less large hoards are sold, the higher the price of the available coins becomes assuming there's demand.

Quite a few big players think its widespread use as a currency will be the last thing to arrive. They're more convinced by the store and transfer of value case and it has to reach that first before viable currency happens anyway.
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July 17, 2015, 11:17:44 AM
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If all of the bitcoins are only held by a few individuals, then there is no way for the price to become that large. The only way is for the bitcoins to be spread among many people so it can be used effectively for a variety of services. And in that case, there is very little likelihood of you becoming millionaire.

Why? Why can't 98% of bitcoins be sitting dormant while we trade the remaining bitcoins back and forth at a price of 1 million each?

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July 17, 2015, 05:33:33 PM
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If all of the bitcoins are only held by a few individuals, then there is no way for the price to become that large. The only way is for the bitcoins to be spread among many people so it can be used effectively for a variety of services. And in that case, there is very little likelihood of you becoming millionaire.

Why? Why can't 98% of bitcoins be sitting dormant while we trade the remaining bitcoins back and forth at a price of 1 million each?

Is technically perfectly possible that BTC can run its whole ecosystem under a single BTC due the fact you can divide it as much as you want. So yes, a billonaire could buy most of the stock, drive the price to ridiculous levels, and as long as there is still demand, the market would run without problems. Everyone already in would be millonaires, and those getting in would get satoshis in exchange of their euros. The system still runs.
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July 17, 2015, 05:41:52 PM
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If you don't follow the market at large...

Google jumped 71 bil (~15%) in market cap today.
This equals 17.6X bitcoin entire market cap.
One stock, one day jump equals 17.6X bitcoin.

Conclusion: bitcoin is like a tiny seed. It could either grow into a tree thousand time larger or die trying.
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July 17, 2015, 10:31:02 PM
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If all of the bitcoins are only held by a few individuals, then there is no way for the price to become that large. The only way is for the bitcoins to be spread among many people so it can be used effectively for a variety of services. And in that case, there is very little likelihood of you becoming millionaire.

you mean like gold ? oho wait .......
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July 18, 2015, 02:23:43 AM
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What do you think? I think I might be close. I'm guessing $10,000 per bitcoin by then.

Possibly, but what will $10,000 buy you then? A loaf of bread?

Unfortunately this is a legitimate question. $1 is worth less and less every year
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July 19, 2015, 07:35:20 PM
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Yeah I remember rpietila predicting 1 million before 2020 or something along the lines lol.
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July 19, 2015, 07:42:39 PM
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What do you think? I think I might be close. I'm guessing $10,000 per bitcoin by then.

Possibly, but what will $10,000 buy you then? A loaf of bread?

Unfortunately this is a legitimate question. $1 is worth less and less every year

In which case BTC will be a shitload higher because people will be running to it to avoid hyper inflation.
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July 20, 2015, 10:49:17 PM
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I think u may have half a mill by 2020.  Cool
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July 21, 2015, 01:24:50 AM
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I think u may have half a mill by 2020.  Cool

OP will be pretty happy with that result too.  Smiley
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July 21, 2015, 03:32:28 AM
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If you don't follow the market at large...

Google jumped 71 bil (~15%) in market cap today.
This equals 17.6X bitcoin entire market cap.
One stock, one day jump equals 17.6X bitcoin.

Conclusion: bitcoin is like a tiny seed. It could either grow into a tree thousand time larger or die trying.

But intially what you described can be anything? lol.

Its similar to a start up that has venture funding and hoping it would grow, but depends outside factors that no one can control.

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July 21, 2015, 03:40:48 AM
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if i grow the worlds biggest apple by accident on my tree,on my property  its 100% mine
if i eat it myself  and shit it out i pay no taxes
if someone swapped me a lambo for the apple  whats the differnce ,i still acquired value from nothing so i pay no taxes
if  i sell it to my neighbour who makes apple jam with it and we sell the jam for $500k i guess we owe taxes
the part im not sure about is when exactly does the government own 30% of my apple ?
is it when its still on the tree ? and the value is as yet unknown ?
is it when its converted to jam ?
does it go by yearly tax dates ?
i cant declare an apple that hasnt fully grown yet as its value is still appreciating etc


that's why we live in a world of very flawed tax laws that are prone to corruption and injustice.

Only taxes that can be reliably enforced and could not be evaded should exist. Instead of taking money by force, governments should ask for donations and people should be able to choose in which government projects they donate. For example, I would not donate to the budget of DEA but I would donate to the public education budget. Free market bitch.

If they did that whole donation route, Id doubt anyone would donate lol.

If you ask people on the street would they donate to a homeless person you`ll have mixed reactions about donation and it`ll turn out the same way with donating to the government.

Also what you described should be more towards a private company that has some government contract.

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July 21, 2015, 05:04:30 PM
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If you don't follow the market at large...

Google jumped 71 bil (~15%) in market cap today.
This equals 17.6X bitcoin entire market cap.
One stock, one day jump equals 17.6X bitcoin.

Conclusion: bitcoin is like a tiny seed. It could either grow into a tree thousand time larger or die trying.

But intially what you described can be anything? lol.
Its similar to a start up that has venture funding and hoping it would grow, but depends outside factors that no one can control.

True. But what this shows is the potential.
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July 22, 2015, 01:34:15 PM
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If you don't follow the market at large...

Google jumped 71 bil (~15%) in market cap today.
This equals 17.6X bitcoin entire market cap.
One stock, one day jump equals 17.6X bitcoin.

Conclusion: bitcoin is like a tiny seed. It could either grow into a tree thousand time larger or die trying.

But intially what you described can be anything? lol.
Its similar to a start up that has venture funding and hoping it would grow, but depends outside factors that no one can control.

True. But what this shows is the potential.

It is really insane how small bitcoin is when you compare it with other equities. I am shacking my head already for a long time after what happened with whatsapp and snapchat..
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July 22, 2015, 01:48:08 PM
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to be a millionaire you have to have at least 1 million dollars what would mean that you need the price of one bitcoin to be 1000000/100=10000 well i kinda doubt that bitcoin will reach 10k dollars in 4 years

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