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[marlais]

I'm 100 percent sure Winbig is Veganhippie. Very cool guy, and totally trustworthy. I've done many trades with him over the years for big money before meeting and hanging  out with him when he visited Vegas. I just read that article about him and that girl. That's pretty sad stuff he got in trouble but I bet he thought she was 19. I don't think he's like a sexual predator, just a guy looking for some action and should have been more careful to ask for ID.  

Times must be tough to be begging for the vig on < 20 chip cashouts. Back in his heyday, vegan was scamming his stakers for upwards of $20k.

Do you truly believe that at the age of 23 you would "date" a 13-year-old girl and have sex with her multiple times on multiple occasions and not figure out she was underage? This wasn't some drunken hookup after some girl gained entrance to a bar with a fake ID. This was a young girl who misguidedly placed a Craigslist ad stating she had emotional problems and was looking for a friend. Thanks to vegan, she now has some more emotional problems to add to her list.

I've never met anyone who was 13 who looked like anything but jailbait. But I'm sure he must feel terrible about the whole thing, right?

Oh and yes, I did get convicted of risk of injury to a minor. I became involved in a relationship with a girl who told me the whole time she was 19, and turned out to be underage. Her parents found that I was seeing her and reported me to the authorities. It is something that would have been no big deal in ANY other country in the world, but the laws and people in America are so STUPID, that I was actually faced with jail time. Luckily, I drew a judge that had some common sense, and after stating that he did not feel I was a predator, he decided it would be best if, instead, I had a few years probation. I do not have to register as a sex offender. This, to me, seems at least somewhat fair.

https://pokerfraudalert.com/forum/showthread.php?3762-Johnathan-quot-iamhiv-quot-Drane-update

Can you believe that they would dare threaten to send a grown man to jail in STUPID America with its STUPID laws for molesting a child? When 13 year olds are fair game for 20-somethings everywhere else in the world, right?

This guy has zero empathy or remorse and is only regretful that he was caught. Between vegan rolling on his WSOP stakers for > $20k, molesting a child, openly admitting to colluding with other players, and being an all-around angleshooter, you sure do hang with a unique crowd, rdbase.

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[TwitchySeal]

I will offer cashouts from swcpoker if you have less than 20 chips for a 1% fee (plus my transaction fees, your choice whether i use high or low), PM me (PM is better as I get notification) or just post here in the thread how much you send me.

My screen name is "veganhippie"

too bad i've never even heard about you or seen on SWC, neither in chat nor played you on tables;
you can see how there's a trust issue!

Go ahead and ask anyone, I have played more hands than anyone on the site. Ask people in chat if they've seen me. My reputation is solid. Let me know, PM me if you want the cashout.

Lots of evidence pointing to winbig777  being xiaoxiao (among several other people)  - and xiaoxiao is still getting paid for his sign ups after stealing all the money and betcoin "closing his account"

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showpost.php?p=53229921&postcount=785

[rdbase]

I'm positive winbig777 is Veganhippie. When he visited me in Vegas I had business cards made up for him to hand out at WSOP. He chose that username to promote SWC and other sites. As for the other allegations, I would love to hear his side about what happened with any large stakes he received. I really don't see any proof and wouldn't his 2+2 account be banned if he scammed? I had a few people scam me on 2+2 and got banned.

[DarkDays]

I'm positive winbig777 is Veganhippie. When he visited me in Vegas I had business cards made up for him to hand out at WSOP. He chose that username to promote SWC and other sites. As for the other allegations, I would love to hear his side about what happened with any large stakes he received. I really don't see any proof and wouldn't his 2+2 account be banned if he scammed? I had a few people scam me on 2+2 and got banned.

They don't ban your account if you are saying that you are working to paying people back because they want to give the scammers an incentive to stay on the right track. 

Also, it's a moot point because he admitted to the rolling.  Read the thread.

[TwitchySeal]

I'm positive winbig777 is Veganhippie. When he visited me in Vegas I had business cards made up for him to hand out at WSOP. He chose that username to promote SWC and other sites. As for the other allegations, I would love to hear his side about what happened with any large stakes he received. I really don't see any proof and wouldn't his 2+2 account be banned if he scammed? I had a few people scam me on 2+2 and got banned.

He did sell a WSOP package for over 40k in 2010 and ended up barely playing any events and disappearing.  I knew one of the guys that had a room in the same house - I think he just vanished one day, early in the series.
It was 7 years ago.

He's claiming he paid everyone back - which might be true, but I really don't think so.  I do know for sure within a 3-4 years he paid back at least a decent chunk of it.

Funny BBV HIV thread:
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/54/poker-beats-brags-variance/return-iamhiv-aka-jonathan-drane-1168430/index5.html

WSOP Stake thread:
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/163/staking-selling-shares-online/comprehensive-wsop-package-selling-shares-1-25-revised-789833/

This was the first post after he scammed in wsop stake thread:
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showpost.php?p=19771994&postcount=77

Here's his final post in thread, 3.5 years later saying he paid everyone back:
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showpost.php?p=41884498&postcount=419

Here's the official spreadsheet, which says he still owes 23k
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12X-tnW_6JqzxRkE-qZYwL16Gg4nnji5CRDqCCizFp1I/edit?authkey=CN7Uq-kJ&authkey=CN7Uq-kJ&authkey=CN7Uq-kJ#gid=0

[rdbase]

I hear you guys. He has some degenerate in him like we all do. I'm sure he had good intentions to play the events and just blew the money before they started. Not a good excuse but he seems like the type of guy that would pay back his debts and I hope he did. 

[DarkDays]

I hear you guys. He has some degenerate in him like we all do. I'm sure he had good intentions to play the events and just blew the money before they started. Not a good excuse but he seems like the type of guy that would pay back his debts and I hope he did. 

You're talking about the guy who was charged with having sex with a 13 year old, right?

[rdbase]

I know what you're saying Darkdays, I'm still trying to process this. I'm just saying I had a good trade relationship with Veganhippie for a few years (sometimes with me sending first). Then he came out to Vegas and he seemed like a cool, normal, extremely smart, poker player.  It's possible he thought she was 19 as he was like 21 at that time but if he didn't then I can't really defend that. I had no idea of the history with two plus two and getting staked but he seemed like someone who would pay back his debts. We should get back to main topic which is Making SWC Great Again lol.  

[CryptoMaven]

When BTC crossed $10K, Seals should have (and still should) reset the price of a chip to 10000 per BTC and multiplied all existing balances accordingly. There's
nothing "micro" about the 0.01/0.02 games now with a $34 max buy-in.  You're not going to attract many new players at the current rate.

[wavrachal]

let's go back to square one:

please, decrease cashout limit to 10 chips

with skyrocket price of bcoin it is only logical

we are not all high-rollers and me, like any average joe, wants to be able to withdraw my 50 or 100$ dollars when i need it

not stay a hostage for $300+ of my bankroll!

[DarkDays]

I agree, let's get back to the topics at hand.  Nearly a week since SWC has said anything on this, the only message board or social media site they ever post on.  Guess those day jobs must be pretty taxing.

Here's those questions I asked so long ago:


Also please don't ignore all of my questions from a few days ago.  Here they are again:

Let me guess...that's coming "in a few months"?  Why don't you update it to reflect what is currently going on on your site?  Why is the only place anyone can see what is actually going on on the site to check this random non-poker related message board?

I've asked this before (ignored obviously) but what do you guys do all day?

What have you done in the last two years to improve the site?  What has changed from then to now to make anyone believe that things are/will change?

And please don't say that we'll see in a few months.  It shouldn't be hard to say "We have done _____, ________, and _______; ________ is 75% of the way done, ___________ is 50% of the way done" etc.  A good example is the mobile client.  That's been "coming" for a very long time now.  It was supposed to be here over the summer.  It's now the winter.  What's finished on it?  How far along are you on the parts that aren't finished?  How many people are coding it?  How many hours have they been working on it thus far?

Also I'd like to add "Why did you lie about not being able to post on 2p2?"
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[badjacks99]

let's go back to square one:

please, decrease cashout limit to 10 chips

with skyrocket price of bcoin it is only logical

we are not all high-rollers and me, like any average joe, wants to be able to withdraw my 50 or 100$ dollars when i need it

not stay a hostage for $300+ of my bankroll!

Is this the case nowadays on seals? Thats an insanse amount to have as a minimum withdraw. Its just another contributing factor as to why Seals with clubs has fallen off a cliff. At those limits Its not even worth it for me to play on there.

[wavrachal]

20 chip withdrawal limit = 382.4 USD

what the fuck is this big cashout limit? u serios?

can you come to senses?

[chuckblocker]

Was playing on this site a couple of years ago and found my old account still working, with balance in. Requested a withdrawal, hope they process. Left ~15$ worth of chips back then, now worth like 460$ something, lmao.

LE: just got it, sweet I now feel like an investor ))

[marlais]

Was playing on this site a couple of years ago and found my old account still working, with balance in. Requested a withdrawal, hope they process. Left ~15$ worth of chips back then, now worth like 460$ something, lmao.

LE: just got it, sweet I now feel like an investor ))

but wait...there's MOAR!

In a questionable management decision, SWC spent a lot of time and effort making sure that when Bitcoin Cash forked, they would split it for players and players can request a cashout of the BCH equivalent of the BTC that was in their account at the time of the fork. So, if you had 0.025 BTC in your SWC account, you now also have 0.025 BCH, which is worth about $47 at the moment. Just send an e-mail to bch@swcpoker.eu and it will auto-send instructions on how to claim. So you invested in BCH without even knowing it! Sick investor life imo.

[Theb]

Was playing on this site a couple of years ago and found my old account still working, with balance in. Requested a withdrawal, hope they process. Left ~15$ worth of chips back then, now worth like 460$ something, lmao.

LE: just got it, sweet I now feel like an investor ))

but wait...there's MOAR!

In a questionable management decision, SWC spent a lot of time and effort making sure that when Bitcoin Cash forked, they would split it for players and players can request a cashout of the BCH equivalent of the BTC that was in their account at the time of the fork. So, if you had 0.025 BTC in your SWC account, you now also have 0.025 BCH, which is worth about $47 at the moment. Just send an e-mail to bch@swcpoker.eu and it will auto-send instructions on how to claim. So you invested in BCH without even knowing it! Sick investor life imo.

Wow that is truly a generous move by the SealsWithClubs management, I mean they are really not obligated to do so as they are not Bitcoin Wallets or anything giving back you balance is an enough obligation but giving you Bitcoin Cash is a great move for SWC, I am saying this because from what I know some gambling sites only reminded members of their community to withdraw their balances in order for them to have Bitcoin Cash.

[chuckblocker]

Was playing on this site a couple of years ago and found my old account still working, with balance in. Requested a withdrawal, hope they process. Left ~15$ worth of chips back then, now worth like 460$ something, lmao.

LE: just got it, sweet I now feel like an investor ))

but wait...there's MOAR!

In a questionable management decision, SWC spent a lot of time and effort making sure that when Bitcoin Cash forked, they would split it for players and players can request a cashout of the BCH equivalent of the BTC that was in their account at the time of the fork. So, if you had 0.025 BTC in your SWC account, you now also have 0.025 BCH, which is worth about $47 at the moment. Just send an e-mail to bch@swcpoker.eu and it will auto-send instructions on how to claim. So you invested in BCH without even knowing it! Sick investor life imo.

Wow that is truly a generous move by the SealsWithClubs management, I mean they are really not obligated to do so as they are not Bitcoin Wallets or anything giving back you balance is an enough obligation but giving you Bitcoin Cash is a great move for SWC, I am saying this because from what I know some gambling sites only reminded members of their community to withdraw their balances in order for them to have Bitcoin Cash.

Yup, thanks for the info. I saw on their main page that you can claim bch if you had any btc deposited to their client, which i did. Waiting for the other 47 to process, they said it could take up to a week but yes, SWC is a great operator for doing this.

[Zero_Cloo]

Was playing on this site a couple of years ago and found my old account still working, with balance in. Requested a withdrawal, hope they process. Left ~15$ worth of chips back then, now worth like 460$ something, lmao.

LE: just got it, sweet I now feel like an investor ))

but wait...there's MOAR!

In a questionable management decision, SWC spent a lot of time and effort making sure that when Bitcoin Cash forked, they would split it for players and players can request a cashout of the BCH equivalent of the BTC that was in their account at the time of the fork. So, if you had 0.025 BTC in your SWC account, you now also have 0.025 BCH, which is worth about $47 at the moment. Just send an e-mail to bch@swcpoker.eu and it will auto-send instructions on how to claim. So you invested in BCH without even knowing it! Sick investor life imo.

They said they were going to do this with Bitcoin Gold as well, but as far as I can tell haven't implemented it. I should probably email them about mine.

[marlais]

Wow that is truly a generous move by the SealsWithClubs management, I mean they are really not obligated to do so as they are not Bitcoin Wallets or anything giving back you balance is an enough obligation but giving you Bitcoin Cash is a great move for SWC, I am saying this because from what I know some gambling sites only reminded members of their community to withdraw their balances in order for them to have Bitcoin Cash.

I agree that it's very generous and I was more than happy to claim my free money. As a Bitcoin-only site, they certainly had no obligation to do so.

I just question the wisdom of spending roughly 5 months developing this feature while the site was and is flatlining. I am assuming they were telling the truth about why it was taking so long to fix other, larger issues like the bug stealing money from pots.

SwC Poker Client Development
We understand and agree client development has taken a long time. SwC Poker is run by a small but dedicated team. Our development resources are limited, but we are working steadily towards client software that will run on multiple platforms and provide a better playing experience than our current Windows only client.

Bitcoin Cash
We expect to announce a system to claim your Bitcoin Cash tokens within days. This has taxed our already limited development resources but we felt it was too much value to our players to ignore. Once the system is ready, we will announce so on this forum, on our website, and on our twitter account @swcpoker

They might as well have spent 5 months rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic unless they somehow manage to produce some functional software in the upcoming weeks rather than the vaporware to which we've become accustomed.

[SwC_Poker]

Announcements for 12.18.17

• Tablestarter rakeback has ended
• Lower rake tables are being introduced over the next 48 hours. The website will reflect this soon.
• Ender is now available in game chat to process cashouts less than 20 chips. An automated system will soon follow. Details forthcoming.
• Krill is being changed so it is accumulated faster. Expect this to take place within 2 weeks
• Krill rakeback is being changed to offer more value now that we ended tablestarter rakeback. Expect this change to take place within 2 weeks
• Tablestarter rakeback for last week will be sent soon.