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November 27, 2017, 06:00:00 AM
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Can I play this in Australia? Most poker sites have been banned here..

You can play anywhere from the earth!

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November 27, 2017, 07:16:22 AM
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1. Why were the Overkrills removed?

Personally, I won't redeposit until this is answered. (I'm RedKingCon if anyone's wondering. I pay a bit of rake.)

You know, the problem isn't actually the Overkrills.  They were nice, but they were just once-daily tournaments with larger than normal guarantees.  And seeing as the guarantees are usually about 6-10 players...it's not that much of a stretch. 

The real problem is that the daily Overkrills were positioned as the "make good" for SWC cancelling the Krillrolls (the real ones that ran once a month for people who had payed thousands in rake lifetime), which themselves were billed as lifetime guarentees.  Now the Overkrills are gone, the last in a long line of removed promotions.  But the idea was to make you forget that they promissed one thing (lifetime monthly krillrolls) and then removed it once people payed a bunch of rake to get into them.  People can't get THAT mad about removing tournaments with a slightly larger guarentee.  And now enough time has passed from when they took away the guarenteed lifetime rewards that SWC hoped people would have forgotten all about what the fuss was in the first place.

Remember the weekly krill leaderboard, where people generated 5k+ in krill a week to win a first place prize of 200 chips?  Of course first place in that used to be 500 chips...until they cut it. 

See the pattern? 


Remember this? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=962440.msg18163004#msg18163004

This criticism is deserved and accurate.
SwC Poker is in a build phase to fix our issues and restore traffic.
We have deployed resources to address our issues and have laid plans to attract new players.
We expect a timetable measured in months to show improvement.
If our site is not good enough for you to play today, we understand and hope you will check back in a few months.

That was from 8 months ago.  Traffic is even lower now than it was back then. 

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November 27, 2017, 02:26:16 PM
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-I had coins on old software why you didnt transfer me this money to my new account on new software?
Please do that,account name is granazg.
Ty
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November 27, 2017, 08:32:12 PM
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You know, the problem isn't actually the Overkrills.  They were nice, but they were just once-daily tournaments with larger than normal guarantees.  And seeing as the guarantees are usually about 6-10 players...it's not that much of a stretch. 

I get that they aren't individually all that important to most people, but they are now literally the only midstakes tournaments in the world in the games I play. Or would be if they still existed.

Most of what keeps me at SwC is the support for non-holdem games, and the overkrills have been a big part of getting people to play them.
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November 27, 2017, 08:56:43 PM
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Most of what keeps me at SwC is the support for non-holdem games, and the overkrills have been a big part of getting people to play them.

Funny story, SWC once felt the same way:


We recognize that our competitive advantage is in our wide range of games offered. We will continue to concentrate on this market segment going forward.






Guess "concentrating" to them means "take away".  Odd.

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November 28, 2017, 12:40:39 AM
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It's really a shame how much potential this site has passed up by not even having one person who can stay on top of things, or form a coherent, consistent strategy.
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November 28, 2017, 12:50:10 AM
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It's really a shame how much potential this site has passed up by not even having one person who can stay on top of things, or form a coherent, consistent strategy.

To be fair, that one person got his door kicked in by the DOJ and fled the country.

It is a shame that they couldn't find anyone to fill his shoes.  They really did get handed a vault full of money and just burned it to the ground.  If they had just been able to handle their shit and taken a few small diligent steps to market the site, they'd be sitting on literally millions of dollars right now.

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November 28, 2017, 02:12:22 AM
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I don't know, I think Micon's "by stoners, for stoners" marketing philosophy might have something to do with the lack of dedication we're seeing now.
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November 28, 2017, 10:29:40 AM
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Y>Ou are the same network i want back my 0.200 BTC back,i dont see you going to another network,please give me this coins back.Dont see this on forums media etc,you shold send me email but you didnt,or they i dont care,this is the same site bcs you use my username and email,if you are not same why im register to SWC POKER,since i didnt register to new client!

PLEASE REFUND ME THIS AMMOUNT!
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November 28, 2017, 04:08:30 PM
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This is sick you stole my bitcoins when you transfering site,you didnt send email,call me or somthing like that, you told me i must read forums and news WTF. Is it hard to send auto mail? no it isnt bcs of that you didnt sent mails, its easier to cheat this way.
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November 28, 2017, 08:59:02 PM
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any country accept?

Yes, all countries accepted.  Smiley
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November 28, 2017, 11:10:13 PM
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Seems like a lot of FUD has been posted in the last couple of days from brand new accounts.

Hmmmm I wonder why that is?

For a refresher, here's a list of questions that SWC has remained silent on:

1. Why were the Overkrills removed?

2. Why is the min cashout $200?

3. How far along is the mobile client that was promised to be released this summer (5 months ago)?


Also, here's a sad stat: SWC management hasn't posted here in 6.5 days, they haven't even logged into this site in 5.5 days, they haven't tweeted in 50 days, and they have deleted their facebook and subreddit and have no presence on 2p2.  The only logical conclusions one can draw is that either this site is their last priority, or decisions have already been made that have not been made public yet.

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November 29, 2017, 02:21:08 AM
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A suggestion: in addition to the existing pre-turn checkbox options (Fold, Call, Call Any) I'd like to see Check and Check/Fold boxes. These would appear for the BB preflop and for all players after each street until a bet or raise is made. This would speed up the game a little bit.
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November 29, 2017, 11:05:21 AM
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Seems like a lot of FUD has been posted in the last couple of days from brand new accounts.

Hmmmm I wonder why that is?

For a refresher, here's a list of questions that SWC has remained silent on:

1. Why were the Overkrills removed?

2. Why is the min cashout $200?

3. How far along is the mobile client that was promised to be released this summer (5 months ago)?


Also, here's a sad stat: SWC management hasn't posted here in 6.5 days, they haven't even logged into this site in 5.5 days, they haven't tweeted in 50 days, and they have deleted their facebook and subreddit and have no presence on 2p2.  The only logical conclusions one can draw is that either this site is their last priority, or decisions have already been made that have not been made public yet.

I guess lowering the rake makes the site more intresting to some players. still they dont even bother fixing something as simple as the min-cashout
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November 29, 2017, 11:25:51 AM
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For a refresher, here's a list of questions that SWC has remained silent on:

1. Why were the Overkrills removed?

2. Why is the min cashout $220?

3. How far along is the mobile client that was promised to be released this summer (5 months ago)?

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November 30, 2017, 12:07:07 PM
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for what i've noticed, hte cashout speed increased and least i'm thankful that they are paying out winnings consistently!
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November 30, 2017, 06:12:41 PM
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Yeap this looks like an exist scam unless someone who isn't a shill of this site speak the truth about current cashouts. I love to play poker but currently there'r no legit site around, people in charge always duck it up

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December 01, 2017, 03:26:08 AM
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Lightside, although what many people have said about the lack of promotions, players, and clients other than PC are correct, it's a safe place to play and they always cash you out within 12 hours. 

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December 01, 2017, 05:41:10 AM
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Some thoughts/possible solutions:

1) Min withdrawals - Reduce minimum withdrawal from 20 chips to 10 chips or make players pay fees below 10 chips, like the fiat sites.  It's unrealistic to ask for much more imo, as it's highly unlikely a small site will pay processing fees w a small player base.  carbon charges 5% on BTC payouts, betcoin charges nothing.  10 chips favors the players as compared to the current situation and shouldn't put them out of business I hope.

2) Freeroll stuff - doesn't really help the site much, draws in players who won't rake much.  Sure, they need to offer some refreshing promos every now and then, which they haven't really done since ending the leaderboard, but freerolls on small sites are big net losers.  There's just no upside to run a bunch of them.  Use promos to incentivize high rake players without completely neglecting the micros.  Swc has to plenty to improve upon, but as in the rest of the business world, the biggest spenders should have the biggest voice.

3) Rake - yet again, as much as BTC-only has been great for BTC investors and the site, it has had a discouraging effect on ring games above .50 chip/1 chip fixed limit and below 10 chip/20 chip fixed limit.  Seals rake structure is a victim of BTC price.  1 chip/2 chip fixed limit = 10/20 usd and the rake cap HU on seals is $4, 3 handed it's $5, 4+ is a laughable $7. On Stars, ring games at 10/20 USD have a cap of $2.  This needs constant attention and re-evaluation, much like the (free) minimum withdrawal amount.  OFC (which I'm not familiar with) gets plenty of action.  Whatever they are doing to pick up that market share of rake needs to be injected into their ring cash games and yes, even the HU cash games.  The tourneys (which I'm not too familiar with) seem to offer very reasonable rake.  I'm ignorant as to how else tourney offerings could be improved, generally.

They can't change the rake or min payout amount daily based on BTC price, but when players who pay rake are discouraged from playing due to these factors, it is something worth paying attention to.  As far as rake goes, I know they've really tried to keep up, but my sense is that there aren't a lot of successful poker minds (maybe none?) employed by seals to really understand the minutiae of this stuff and how important it is to the ecology of the site.  While Glitch and support were extremely responsive to request for rake changes within 12 hours of the previous stink wrt high rake, this stuff needs to be monitored in a professional fashion.

Management is pretty secretive.  Maybe that's smart, given what happened to a previous owner/spokesperson.  Very few people know who owns the site or what their real plans are for the future.  We don't know if they're experienced poker business professionals (probably not) or just business people w this site as just one small item of a huge portfolio, or a bunch of stoners in a basement in Montana (probably not).  But it does lead one to believe they think this site is a self-driving car, when it really is a 6 spd manual.
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December 01, 2017, 05:42:06 AM
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My cashouts - including a sizable one in early November - have always been fast and reliable as well. This is not a prediction of future results - more and more things seem to be falling by the wayside and I'm not sure how long that can continue before getting to core functions.
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