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[TippingPoint]

Bad news.

They updated the promotions page, and the Krill Rolls are gone.

Krill Waves:
 Krill     Title     Reward
 50        Daily Freerolls
 100        Daily Freerolls
 500     Floundering Seal     Choice of Avatar & Chat Color
 1,250     Baby Seal     Weekly OverKrill Bonus Tournaments  
 2,500     Daring Seal     1% Rakeback
 5,000     Adult Seal     2% Rakeback
 10,000     Tricky Seal     5% Rakeback
 20,000     Journeyman Seal       11% Rakeback  
 50,000     Sly Seal     19% Rakeback
 100,000     Cunning Seal     27% Rakeback
 200,000     Boss Seal     33% Rakeback
 500,000     Shrewd Seal     38% Rakeback
 1,000,000     Baller Seal     42% Rakeback
 2,000,000     Sage Seal     45% Rakeback
 5,000,000     Iconic Seal     47% Rakeback
 10,000,000       Grandmaster Seal       50% Rakeback

[Nubitcoinerr]

Bad news.

They updated the promotions page, and the Krill Rolls are gone.

Krill Waves:
 Krill     Title     Reward
 50        Daily Freerolls
 100        Daily Freerolls
 500     Floundering Seal     Choice of Avatar & Chat Color
 1,250     Baby Seal     Weekly OverKrill Bonus Tournaments  
 2,500     Daring Seal     1% Rakeback
 5,000     Adult Seal     2% Rakeback
 10,000     Tricky Seal     5% Rakeback
 20,000     Journeyman Seal       11% Rakeback  
 50,000     Sly Seal     19% Rakeback
 100,000     Cunning Seal     27% Rakeback
 200,000     Boss Seal     33% Rakeback
 500,000     Shrewd Seal     38% Rakeback
 1,000,000     Baller Seal     42% Rakeback
 2,000,000     Sage Seal     45% Rakeback
 5,000,000     Iconic Seal     47% Rakeback
 10,000,000       Grandmaster Seal       50% Rakeback

omg maybe now they can pay to fix the problem when you resize tables 

[tspacepilot]

Long, slow death of seals with clubs seems to have started with the transition to "swc" a year and a half ago.  How long until someone swoops in and made a nice bitcoin poker house that works on any computer?  Alas.  RIP.  I miss the good days.  If they're killing off the krillrolls they really are going to just be a tiny club soon.  Maybe better to take down the public website and just run a vpn somewhere for the weekly meetup of the former swc players.

[nioc]

The krill rolls did not seem to bring people to the tables.  Most people that played the krill rolls played nothing else.

As has been stated by a few people, that money should have been used for promos that would bring players to the table.

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[notserp]

The krill rolls did not seem to bring people to the tables.  Most people that played the krill rolls played nothing else.

As has been stated by a few people, that money should have been used for promos that would bring players to the table.

Inset skeleton waiting for.......... image

eh they made me play. if they didnt allow selling of accounts most players that would play in the krillrolls would be players that actually played. but thats their fault for letting those bums play in the krillroll with bought accounts.

[RazzleDazzle]

To recap:

--Site currently has absolutely no players' rewards/loyalty program, something that every single other poker site has.
--Site has little to no traffic for ring games.
--Site has consistently slashed GTDs for tourneys that still fail to run due to a lack of registrants.
--Management has failed to deliver clients for the different OS's promised over 1.5 years ago.
--Support has failed to patch broken hand history logs despite constant complaints for months.
--Repeatedly pointing out these shortcomings in lobbychat will lead to either harassment from other players or chatbans.

On a side note, the current strategy seems focused around trying to depict rakeback % as a reward for krill.  This is hilariously LOL because anyone can sign up with a variety of other BTC-facing sites and receive 20-30% rakeback from the start, instead of having to dump 50+coins of rake to achieve similar rakeback on SwC.

The only thing management has proven to be exceptional at is taking the goodwill garnered by the previous iteration of SwC and driving it to the ground, and making promises that it cannot/doesn't intend to deliver on.

[DarkDays]

To recap:

--Site currently has absolutely no players' rewards/loyalty program, something that every single other poker site has.

It's actually worse than that.  They scaled back and then discontinued promised lifetime rake rewards (krillrolls).  So they now have a history of promising something in order to get people to generate rake and then not fulfilling their end. 

One thing they do have is table starter rakeback, but it pales in comparison to it's competitors. 

--Site has little to no traffic for ring games.

Seems accurate.  Right now there is one game running.  And it's headsup.

--Site has consistently slashed GTDs for tourneys that still fail to run due to a lack of registrants.

Correct.  I stopped grinding tournaments on there when they sneakily cut all the tournament's guarantees and none of the worthwhile daily tournaments would run regularly and looking at it now it looks like they are even lower.

--Management has failed to deliver clients for the different OS's promised over 1.5 years ago.

And has stopped communicating with the players who want to play on their site.

--Support has failed to patch broken hand history logs despite constant complaints for months.
--Repeatedly pointing out these shortcomings in lobbychat will lead to either harassment from other players or chatbans.

On a side note, the current strategy seems focused around trying to depict rakeback % as a reward for krill.  This is hilariously LOL because anyone can sign up with a variety of other BTC-facing sites and receive 20-30% rakeback from the start, instead of having to dump 50+coins of rake to achieve similar rakeback on SwC.

The only thing management has proven to be exceptional at is taking the goodwill garnered by the previous iteration of SwC and driving it to the ground, and making promises that it cannot/doesn't intend to deliver on.

The constant cutting of rewards/promos/guarantees (which will only lead to less players playing on the site) and aggressive silence on all social media and forums is very very odd.  It almost seems like they are trying to fail.  I really wish that the current owners would just sell their stake or hire a competent poker room manager.  SWC honestly has the most potential of any non-Stars poker site and it's just being wasted.

[darkmule]

Bad news.

They updated the promotions page, and the Krill Rolls are gone.

A genuine dick move to cancel a tournament people wait a month for literally hours before it happened.

[TippingPoint]

They have a very strange philosophy about public relations.  Are they from another planet?

[lluboski]

With 189 players connected, SwC Poker is currently a bit smaller than Seals was.

Blame it on the windoze

anyway, when we build out our platform and fix our bugs, these games will fill up.

Remember table starter rakeback is on for all games, 6max+.  Playing 2 or 3 handed gets you auto-50% rakeback, so that is a proper incentive to help me start some games until we have all clients & the affiliate program.

I respectfully disagree. I do start tables and so does "whodisis" but there is not much interest from others players to join. if we can get going one table for the particullar stakes,it's a good result and it will fell apart usually within hour.

189 players is about 1/2 of the players that played on old Seals, but the number of players on ring games is not even close 1/2 old Seals cash games players.
Aso I don't think windoze only is responsible for so big drop.
If you reinstate old krillrolls, I bet most of the players who played them on old Seals will come play the krillroll and then go back where the action is. (not on SWC)
The result will be SWC slowly bleed bitcoin reserves, because SWC will not collect enough rake.

I believe "whodisis" has a valid point and you should give his idea serious consideration. Try it for a month and see what happen. I am not suggesting
krill race, just something like 1 weekly krillroll for anybody who collect 100 or 200 krill for the time period.

I know your main focus is still on a software, but give it some thought.

  
 
 

It seems I was right.

[nioc]

With 189 players connected, SwC Poker is currently a bit smaller than Seals was.

Blame it on the windoze

anyway, when we build out our platform and fix our bugs, these games will fill up.

Remember table starter rakeback is on for all games, 6max+.  Playing 2 or 3 handed gets you auto-50% rakeback, so that is a proper incentive to help me start some games until we have all clients & the affiliate program.

I respectfully disagree. I do start tables and so does "whodisis" but there is not much interest from others players to join. if we can get going one table for the particullar stakes,it's a good result and it will fell apart usually within hour.

189 players is about 1/2 of the players that played on old Seals, but the number of players on ring games is not even close 1/2 old Seals cash games players.
Aso I don't think windoze only is responsible for so big drop.
If you reinstate old krillrolls, I bet most of the players who played them on old Seals will come play the krillroll and then go back where the action is. (not on SWC)
The result will be SWC slowly bleed bitcoin reserves, because SWC will not collect enough rake.

I believe "whodisis" has a valid point and you should give his idea serious consideration. Try it for a month and see what happen. I am not suggesting
krill race, just something like 1 weekly krillroll for anybody who collect 100 or 200 krill for the time period.

I know your main focus is still on a software, but give it some thought.

  
 
 

It seems I was right.

Any advice that you posted always seemed spot on.

Seals was the reason I found btc more than 3 years ago and for that I will always be grateful.

[SyGambler]

I was playing today and the client kept crashing , I don't know what's the problem should I uninstall the software and redownload it ??
usually an update message pops up but it's not showing anymore , but Idk if my software is up to date
anyone facing the same thing ?

[marlais]

I feel like the remaining SWC customers have extended an enormous amount of latitude toward the current management with regard to missed opportunities, missed deadlines, lost traffic, reduced guarantees/loyalty programs, and broken promises that have plagued this site since its inception (Anyone receive a hat lately? HH still broken? Still getting your kings folded by disconnects? Android app/multi-platform client? Rebuy tourneys?). The nominal reason I have heard for the lack of advertising and new players is that the software is still too beta, and they don't want to bring in a bunch of customers only to let them down. However, the last big software change I saw was the addition of new chat colors and the site is slowly bleeding out (but now in crimson rather than red).

I am also seeing an increase in a "blame the customer" mentality where players are regularly and repeatedly chat banned according to rules that are vague and applied inconsistently across players. Players are told "we don't need your business" (or much worse, devolving into ad hominem rage attacks) if they express frustration with the status quo. It's extremely unprofessional, especially considering that players have a lot to be frustrated about right now and they do need the business desperately. While this hasn't been directed at me specifically (yet), every time I see it happen to another player it lets me know how much they value the handful of ride-or-die players that have stayed with the site despite its massive growing pains and mismanagement.

I get that giving away coins to freeloaders on bought accounts in krillrolls might not be sustainable from a profitability standpoint, but it's ridiculous to rip the rug out from under everyone without some sort of replacement program on deck, and especially a few hours before a tournament that runs once a month. I hear that we should expect to learn about the replacement program in the next week or so, but I've heard a lot of things from SWC that haven't panned out, so I'll believe it when I see it. It's hard for me to give them the benefit of the doubt at this point.

The only upsides that I see to SWC are that I believe the site is not trying to actively rip anyone off (ahem, Betcoin), they have some games that other sites don't offer, and I like some of the people who play there. However, in the last 6 or so months, a lot of players I like have given up on the site, gotten sick of playing the same handful of regs, gotten banned, or been verbally abused by staff to the point where they peaced out. A lot of the poker variants just don't run because the player pool is already spread too thin.

It would be great if someone from SWC management could step forward and let people know WTF is going on. The whole ghost management strat isn't working for me, and with the site in crisis, some leadership would be great to see.

I hope that SWC manages to pull through this, but I'm losing hope that there will be anything to save by the time they get their act together.

[Mosrite]

If you get table starter, you don't get your krill rakeback too for those hands.   

rdbase- to the best of my knowledge, that is incorrect.  I believe you get krill rakeback for any hands that you also receive table starter.  I could be wrong, but I feel pretty confident (like 81% confident) that I have played weeks where I *ONLY* did table starter, and I still received my krill rakeback.

But hey, I drink a lot!  Who knows!?

This is correct, unless they changed it, you get both.

There was never double payment on Table Starter and Krill rakeback. It was always the higher of the two percentages, and it still is. Management is not "ghost" they're here and  working hard to fix what's wrong. They cut rake in an effort to bring in players. The timing of the 20K Krill Roll cancellation sucked, I wish they could redo that. There will be some redress in the near to mid term, from what I understand.

[Mosrite]

To recap:

--Site currently has absolutely no players' rewards/loyalty program, something that every single other poker site has.

It's actually worse than that.  They scaled back and then discontinued promised lifetime rake rewards (krillrolls).  So they now have a history of promising something in order to get people to generate rake and then not fulfilling their end.  

One thing they do have is table starter rakeback, but it pales in comparison to it's competitors.  

--Site has little to no traffic for ring games.

Seems accurate.  Right now there is one game running.  And it's headsup.

--Site has consistently slashed GTDs for tourneys that still fail to run due to a lack of registrants.

Correct.  I stopped grinding tournaments on there when they sneakily cut all the tournament's guarantees and none of the worthwhile daily tournaments would run regularly and looking at it now it looks like they are even lower.

--Management has failed to deliver clients for the different OS's promised over 1.5 years ago.

Management is listening, carefully, to all the players. Krill rakeback is still real and shows up in your account every Monday. Games are good, we need players to come and play.

And has stopped communicating with the players who want to play on their site.

--Support has failed to patch broken hand history logs despite constant complaints for months.
--Repeatedly pointing out these shortcomings in lobbychat will lead to either harassment from other players or chatbans.

On a side note, the current strategy seems focused around trying to depict rakeback % as a reward for krill.  This is hilariously LOL because anyone can sign up with a variety of other BTC-facing sites and receive 20-30% rakeback from the start, instead of having to dump 50+coins of rake to achieve similar rakeback on SwC.

The only thing management has proven to be exceptional at is taking the goodwill garnered by the previous iteration of SwC and driving it to the ground, and making promises that it cannot/doesn't intend to deliver on.

The constant cutting of rewards/promos/guarantees (which will only lead to less players playing on the site) and aggressive silence on all social media and forums is very very odd.  It almost seems like they are trying to fail.  I really wish that the current owners would just sell their stake or hire a competent poker room manager.  SWC honestly has the most potential of any non-Stars poker site and it's just being wasted.

Management is listening, carefully, to all the players. Krill rakeback is still real and shows up in your account every Monday. Games are good, we need players to come and play.

[Mosrite]

To recap:

--Site currently has absolutely no players' rewards/loyalty program, something that every single other poker site has.

It's actually worse than that.  They scaled back and then discontinued promised lifetime rake rewards (krillrolls).  So they now have a history of promising something in order to get people to generate rake and then not fulfilling their end. 

One thing they do have is table starter rakeback, but it pales in comparison to it's competitors. 

--Site has little to no traffic for ring games.

Seems accurate.  Right now there is one game running.  And it's headsup.

--Site has consistently slashed GTDs for tourneys that still fail to run due to a lack of registrants.

Correct.  I stopped grinding tournaments on there when they sneakily cut all the tournament's guarantees and none of the worthwhile daily tournaments would run regularly and looking at it now it looks like they are even lower.

--Management has failed to deliver clients for the different OS's promised over 1.5 years ago.

The site is going to be more communicative. The handling of the 20K Krill Roll cancellation was bad, that's admitted. There will be some recompense in the short to mid term.

And has stopped communicating with the players who want to play on their site.

--Support has failed to patch broken hand history logs despite constant complaints for months.
--Repeatedly pointing out these shortcomings in lobbychat will lead to either harassment from other players or chatbans.

On a side note, the current strategy seems focused around trying to depict rakeback % as a reward for krill.  This is hilariously LOL because anyone can sign up with a variety of other BTC-facing sites and receive 20-30% rakeback from the start, instead of having to dump 50+coins of rake to achieve similar rakeback on SwC.

The only thing management has proven to be exceptional at is taking the goodwill garnered by the previous iteration of SwC and driving it to the ground, and making promises that it cannot/doesn't intend to deliver on.

The constant cutting of rewards/promos/guarantees (which will only lead to less players playing on the site) and aggressive silence on all social media and forums is very very odd.  It almost seems like they are trying to fail.  I really wish that the current owners would just sell their stake or hire a competent poker room manager.  SWC honestly has the most potential of any non-Stars poker site and it's just being wasted.

[RazzleDazzle]

To recap:

--Site currently has absolutely no players' rewards/loyalty program, something that every single other poker site has.

It's actually worse than that.  They scaled back and then discontinued promised lifetime rake rewards (krillrolls).  So they now have a history of promising something in order to get people to generate rake and then not fulfilling their end.  

One thing they do have is table starter rakeback, but it pales in comparison to it's competitors.  

--Site has little to no traffic for ring games.

Seems accurate.  Right now there is one game running.  And it's headsup.

--Site has consistently slashed GTDs for tourneys that still fail to run due to a lack of registrants.

Correct.  I stopped grinding tournaments on there when they sneakily cut all the tournament's guarantees and none of the worthwhile daily tournaments would run regularly and looking at it now it looks like they are even lower.

--Management has failed to deliver clients for the different OS's promised over 1.5 years ago.

Management is listening, carefully, to all the players. Krill rakeback is still real and shows up in your account every Monday. Games are good, we need players to come and play.

And has stopped communicating with the players who want to play on their site.

--Support has failed to patch broken hand history logs despite constant complaints for months.
--Repeatedly pointing out these shortcomings in lobbychat will lead to either harassment from other players or chatbans.

On a side note, the current strategy seems focused around trying to depict rakeback % as a reward for krill.  This is hilariously LOL because anyone can sign up with a variety of other BTC-facing sites and receive 20-30% rakeback from the start, instead of having to dump 50+coins of rake to achieve similar rakeback on SwC.

The only thing management has proven to be exceptional at is taking the goodwill garnered by the previous iteration of SwC and driving it to the ground, and making promises that it cannot/doesn't intend to deliver on.

The constant cutting of rewards/promos/guarantees (which will only lead to less players playing on the site) and aggressive silence on all social media and forums is very very odd.  It almost seems like they are trying to fail.  I really wish that the current owners would just sell their stake or hire a competent poker room manager.  SWC honestly has the most potential of any non-Stars poker site and it's just being wasted.

Management is listening, carefully, to all the players. Krill rakeback is still real and shows up in your account every Monday. Games are good, we need players to come and play.

For many of other sites that currently accept bitcoin, people get 27% rakeback from the start.  To get 27% on SwC, you have to acquire 100,000 krill.  Please don't make it seem like krill rakeback is a benefit when in fact it is actually a way to make people pay for a perk that they usually have for free on other sites. 

[cazkooo]

They cut rake in an effort to bring in players.

Seriously , the bitcoin poker market is saturated. If a fiat poker sites cant even stand out, let alone bitcoin poker sites and reducing rake wont attract players. People just wont play poker nowadays, not sure really what is going on. On another off topic things, even pokerstar has less player currently

[darkmule]

There was never double payment on Table Starter and Krill rakeback. It was always the higher of the two percentages, and it still is. Management is not "ghost" they're here and  working hard to fix what's wrong.

Other than cancelling tournaments, what the fuck are they doing exactly?  Are they invisible?  Do they have tongues? 

I haven't heard a word from these fuckers in months.

[sherbyspark]

There was never double payment on Table Starter and Krill rakeback. It was always the higher of the two percentages, and it still is. Management is not "ghost" they're here and  working hard to fix what's wrong.

Other than cancelling tournaments, what the fuck are they doing exactly?  Are they invisible?  Do they have tongues?  

I haven't heard a word from these fuckers in months.

I feel the project is only a side project for them, like just paying the hosting and the domain fees. They probably have given up on running it as a professional site. I literally haven't heard a word from them since th e beginning.