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December 01, 2017, 05:46:09 AM
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OFC (which I'm not familiar with) gets plenty of action.  Whatever they are doing to pick up that market share of rake needs to be injected into their ring cash games and yes, even the HU cash games. 

OFC gets action because it's a fun, high-variance game, and there's nowhere else to play it. I don't think they can feasibly get every other site to stop spreading all the other games.
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December 01, 2017, 06:37:44 AM
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3) Rake - yet again, as much as BTC-only has been great for BTC investors and the site, it has had a discouraging effect on ring games above .50 chip/1 chip fixed limit and below 10 chip/20 chip fixed limit.  Seals rake structure is a victim of BTC price.  1 chip/2 chip fixed limit = 10/20 usd and the rake cap HU on seals is $4, 3 handed it's $5, 4+ is a laughable $7. On Stars, ring games at 10/20 USD have a cap of $2.  This needs constant attention and re-evaluation, much like the (free) minimum withdrawal amount. 

I agree.  SWC needs to decide if it's a bitcoin site or a USD site.  They can't take away guaranteed rewards and all promotions because "the price of bitcoin had gotten too high" yet keep an industry-high rake structure.   

Just to keep people updated:

1. Why were the Overkrills removed?

2. Why is the min cashout $200?

3. How far along is the mobile client that was promised to be released this summer (5 months ago)?


SWC management hasn't posted here in 9 days, they haven't even logged into this site in 8 days, they haven't tweeted in 52 days, and they have deleted their facebook and subreddit and have no presence on 2p2.

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December 03, 2017, 05:57:47 AM
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please, decrease the cash-out barrier!

20 chip or 220 USD now is too much!
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December 03, 2017, 02:33:17 PM
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50$ or 5 chip cashout request
c'mon let's be reasonable about cashouts, mkay?!
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December 03, 2017, 02:48:34 PM
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yeah 20 chips min withdrawal is definitely not suitable at all , even Americascardroom requires less than that and they aren't even a pure bitcoin site
fees are really annoying these days but 20 mbtc min withdraw isn't the solution IMO , just make the people pay for the fees and that should solve the problem

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December 03, 2017, 06:32:02 PM
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fiat poker cashout like ACR is $25

speaking of fees - there's a method to combine all daily payments into one batch and pay a nominal fee which levels out extra costs; so that's not an excuse! i think they want money to be kept as long as they can in order to manipulate player funds gaining dividends in investment schemes; think of it - when you have a bulk of money , you can run up a pretty interest rate on it! pretty clear to me that possibly, i believe all the player money is being used for extracurricular activities and paying out often is not in the best interest to glitch/swc! we are being used..
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December 03, 2017, 07:46:19 PM
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yeah 20 chips min withdrawal is definitely not suitable at all , even Americascardroom requires less than that and they aren't even a pure bitcoin site
fees are really annoying these days but 20 mbtc min withdraw isn't the solution IMO , just make the people pay for the fees and that should solve the problem

Yes, this is the pretty obvious answer.  If people aren't willing to get 20 chips on the site to cashout, just make them pay the fees.

Biggest problem (again) is rake.

It's Sunday afternoon in the US and there is ONE game running at the lowest stakes.  That may be because a 2/4 limit game with 4 players pays up to $10/hand in rake lol!

From what I've heard, they will be decreasing rake soon, possibly doing away with tablestarter (which is also a good idea, as right now there is no incentive for a 4th player to join a mid stakes or high stakes game), and increasing their presence in the community (heard that before) and getting a new client ready at beginning soon (also heard that before).

Wavrachal, I think you can take the tin foil hat off - they arent keeping your money for the interest lol and anybody can cashout within hours.  Just deposit a little more to get to 20 chips and then cash it right out if it's such a big deal. 

BTC is almost 12k and as sweet as a BTC only site was when BTC was $300 and rewards program was better than making SuperNovaElite on Stars, they havent been able to keep up w BTC price movements to properly rake and monitor games.
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December 03, 2017, 09:59:42 PM
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"Just deposit a little more to get to 20 chips and then cash it right out if it's such a big deal.  "
20 chip is 200+ USD i dont have bundles of dollars just lying around the room, sorry;
im happy when i have got 10$ to live the day; yeah i'm that cheap, but that is not the topic of issue!
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December 03, 2017, 10:30:58 PM
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"Just deposit a little more to get to 20 chips and then cash it right out if it's such a big deal.  "
20 chip is 200+ USD i dont have bundles of dollars just lying around the room, sorry;
im happy when i have got 10$ to live the day; yeah i'm that cheap, but that is not the topic of issue!

Gotcha, wasn't trying to be a dick about finances and nobody has stated your request for lower withdrawal amount is unreasonable.  But posting over and over about it in such a short time is not going to help your cause I'd guess.  Have you tried emailing support?

I emailed support about a bunch of stuff and learned a fair amount in less than one day.
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December 03, 2017, 10:42:11 PM
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I will offer cashouts from swcpoker if you have less than 20 chips for a 1% fee (plus my transaction fees, your choice whether i use high or low), PM me (PM is better as I get notification) or just post here in the thread how much you send me.

My screen name is "veganhippie"
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December 03, 2017, 10:54:44 PM
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I will offer cashouts from swcpoker if you have less than 20 chips for a 1% fee (plus my transaction fees, your choice whether i use high or low), PM me (PM is better as I get notification) or just post here in the thread how much you send me.

My screen name is "veganhippie"

too bad i've never even heard about you or seen on SWC, neither in chat nor played you on tables;
you can see how there's a trust issue!
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December 03, 2017, 10:57:28 PM
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yeah 20 chips min withdrawal is definitely not suitable at all

5 chip cashout request
c'mon let's be reasonable about cashouts, mkay?!

We have heard the community regarding cashouts. We think it is our number one issue right now. One thing that is often overlooked about SwC Poker is that we have never charged a cashout fee to the players. In the past it was not a problem, but now it has been costly and SwC Poker decided to absorb the cost for a long time. We are working on a new cashout system where the minimum amount will be lower and the player will pay the fee. Until we release the new cashout system, the minimum will still be 20 chips and SwC Poker will still pay the fee each time.

for what i've noticed, hte cashout speed increased and least i'm thankful that they are paying out winnings consistently!

My cashouts - including a sizable one in early November - have always been fast and reliable as well. This is not a prediction of future results - more and more things seem to be falling by the wayside and I'm not sure how long that can continue before getting to core functions.

While we don't currently offer the low cashout amount players want we try our best to be fast with our cashouts because we know players appreciate getting paid quickly.



1. Why were the Overkrills removed?

2. Why is the min cashout $200?

3. How far along is the mobile client that was promised to be released this summer (5 months ago)?


1. Overkrill MTT is on Sunday, we may bring them back to other days.
2. Addressed above
3. We admit that we ran into problems with Android client and the community deserves an apology from us for lack of updates. We know you have been waiting a long time for client updates. We expect to show the community something new in early 2018. Our philosophy is based on not ever using outside help and doing every part internally so we can be sure of security. Our process makes for very slow development. We will make a call for alpha testers to help us debug the new client when we are ready to do so.


3) Rake


We have been in touch with Marauders80, who offered us good advice from a long time high limit player. We are going to follow much of what he said. Rake tables are being discussed internally and will be lowered soon.

We recognize our issues and are building solutions. In early 2018 we will show the community an improved SwC Poker.

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December 04, 2017, 04:00:03 AM
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1. Overkrill MTT is on Sunday, we may bring them back to other days.

This is hardly an answer to the question. You don't need to tell us they're not there. We noticed.

In early 2018 we will show the community an improved SwC Poker.

Well, when this happens, and if it includes actually promoting the site rather than cutting promos consistently, you might see me paying rake again.
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December 04, 2017, 08:17:27 AM
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In early 2018 we will show the community an improved SwC Poker.

Quick reality check here...do you realize that "early 2018" is in a little over 3 weeks? If by "early" you mean "May" or "never," I recommend just stating that rather than setting player expectations and then going AWOL like you did with the "summer 2017" update.
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December 04, 2017, 08:44:55 AM
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1. Overkrill MTT is on Sunday, we may bring them back to other days.

Why did you remove them from the other days?  You introduced them as a make good for removing the guaranteed lifetime rewards of the high value krillrolls. 

Remember?

Why did you take them away without saying anything?  Why do you frequently go weeks at a time saying nothing?  Are you so busy that you can't check the one message board you post to daily?  What are you so busy doing, because it isn't: catching cheaters, improving the software, fixing the cashout issues, adding games, updating your site, updating your twitter, or promoting the site.  Do you have a day job? 


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3. We admit that we ran into problems with Android client and the community deserves an apology from us for lack of updates. We know you have been waiting a long time for client updates. We expect to show the community something new in early 2018. Our philosophy is based on not ever using outside help and doing every part internally so we can be sure of security. Our process makes for very slow development. We will make a call for alpha testers to help us debug the new client when we are ready to do so.

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We have been in touch with Marauders80, who offered us good advice from a long time high limit player. We are going to follow much of what he said. Rake tables are being discussed internally and will be lowered soon.


Two months ago you posted that you spoke to Marauders80 and got suggestions.  AND that you were working on lowering withdraws:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=962440.msg22604467#msg22604467

What have you done on those two fronts in the last two months?  It seems like you just say the same thing over and over and over again.  "We're working on _____ it'll be great in a few months!"  Yet nothing seems to be getting done.  Anyone can look through your post history and see the same thing for a new client.  Every few months it's "We're working on it!".  What have you gotten done so far?  What can you show people?  If you've been working on it for years and you don't even have an alpha, maybe it's time to stop taking so much pride in "not ever using outside help" (keep in mind that every piece of software your site has ever used has been rented/bought) and start paying people who can get stuff done?  This is assuming, of course, that you'd like to eventually have a site that has more than 5 average active players and a 24 hour high of 20 active players (numbers from pokerscout).

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December 04, 2017, 12:43:30 PM
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GUYS, WAIT!! Your criticism is too harsh!!!

don't be too hard on them! after all, SwC is a community project and not a full-blown casino, right?!
we have to be thankful for  whatever good things are already worrking, and if they have time, let them improve..
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December 04, 2017, 03:15:39 PM
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don't be too hard on them! after all, SwC is a community project and not a full-blown casino, right?!

As far as I'm aware there is absolutely no way in which SwC could be fairly described as a community project.
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December 04, 2017, 06:58:04 PM
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We are currently experiencing an outgoing email issue. Support ticket responses and password reset emails will not work during the outage.

Incoming email is working, so we have received your messages but responses will be delayed.

We will update when it is working again.

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We are currently experiencing an outgoing email issue. Support ticket responses and password reset emails will not work during the outage.

Incoming email is working, so we have received your messages but responses will be delayed.

We will update when it is working again.

Why is this information not on your twitter or website?  Or 2p2?  Why do you communicate only here (where the lowest % of poker players congregate) and only occasionally?

Also I wonder why in the past month or two it seems like there are always massive issues.  Site going down, withdraws delayed, emails down.  All this is cropping up recently.  It's odd.  Comments?

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