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August 20, 2017, 05:02:15 PM
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Giving the site another look ---> It's just so hard to find a tournament to play.  Not really worth the fee to deposit chips onto the site ---> where's the traffic?  27 active players online now ---> Almost all freerolling!  Where's the action?

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August 20, 2017, 05:29:36 PM
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Giving the site another look ---> It's just so hard to find a tournament to play.  Not really worth the fee to deposit chips onto the site ---> where's the traffic?  27 active players online now ---> Almost all freerolling!  Where's the action?

Most of the action is in the scheduled tournaments. You won't always be able to find a tournament to play but they have several bigger tournaments that get quite a few players.
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August 20, 2017, 07:54:40 PM
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I don't think it's quite time for all the players to boycott the site until we've gotten compensated for yet another error, but I think it's something that has to get answered this month, at the very latest.

Agreed.  The ambiguity of the released statements by the representative is silly at best and is downright willfully ignorant imo.  It's almost as if they didn't release any statement at all. 

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August 20, 2017, 10:49:14 PM
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I don't think it's quite time for all the players to boycott the site until we've gotten compensated for yet another error, but I think it's something that has to get answered this month, at the very latest.

Agreed.  The ambiguity of the released statements by the representative is silly at best and is downright willfully ignorant imo.  It's almost as if they didn't release any statement at all.  


They asked the players who found out about it to not mention it to the other players.  Not only did they release no statement, but they deliberately concealed it from their customers.  Whether they pay or not, they've already lied by omission.  Under current site ownership, their reputation will never fully recover.
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August 21, 2017, 12:26:33 AM
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Posted five days ago :

Over-Raked Pots Update

SwC Poker has prioritized this and will make automatic refunds to affected players. Refunds will include a corresponding amount of Bitcoin Cash, credited as SwC chips. We must ask player patience while we complete the investigation and calculation of refunds.

This information is meaningless unless they attach a date to it. Right now, I can only tell you that it wasn't enough of a priority to be addressed in 5 days. I heard that multi-platform support, a new Windows client, and an Android client were also priorities, but they were obviously using a different definition of "priority" than the one I am familiar with.

I get that they don't want to put a date on anything because they've been burned so many times in the past for missing deadlines they set for themselves, but this should result in a more realistic approach to setting personal deadlines rather than an excuse for setting no deadlines in perpetuity and leaving customers in the dark.
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August 21, 2017, 03:17:13 AM
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Not sure why you guys really expect answers to any of your questions. They've been ignoring my questions, and suggestions, for the better part of a year now. This thread is nothing more than a place for them to try and save some marketing face by posting the same meaningless few sentences over and over again, i.e., we're working on it, it's being looked into, etc.

Also, mrcuzamano, if you hate seals so much, you might wanna change your sig from your SWC referral link. It makes look you even more retarded than usual when you're flaming the site you're advertising.

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August 21, 2017, 03:42:21 AM
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SO, the script is now fully functional, it searches through hand history and outputs hand numbers with missing money, and the winners of that hand. Since the hand history lists blinds posted in their sequential order relative to all blinds posted instead of the actual chip amount e.g. "xxxx posts small blinds 1234567" (uhh derp?), the script cannot tally up all the missing chips from those specific pots.

The output looks like this:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/341035669650407425/349034196670480404/unknown.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/341035669650407425/349031935164809218/unknown.png

So there you have it. If you are interested in having the script run through your hand history contact me either on private message here, on the various discord channels, or on the swc trollbox, though you're most likely to get a prompt response on discord.

If I like you ill run it for free, if you're a random I am charging 5 chips for the service, and if I don't like you... then wtf are you reading this for, shithead. Angry  Grin Grin Roll Eyes Kiss

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Some hands are missing the name of the player who won, im looking into it but it seems to be infrequent enough to not bother adding a fix as its probably just another type of SWC patented ShitWare(tm). If SWC holds true to their word of making available full (non-corrupted) hand histories, this script will serve as an even stronger auditing tool (which is why im charging for the service in general, as there is value in being able to audit these sorts of things, especially in this sort of volume; one mistake or missing hand could be 20+ chips!)

Some hands are false positives (from more SWC software bugginess) and show the beginnings of one hand and the end of others.

EDIT: https://discord.gg/X8pSrVm <-- link to SWC officially unofficial discord room
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August 21, 2017, 03:52:14 AM
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SO, the script is now fully functional, it searches through hand history and outputs hand numbers with missing money, and the winners of that hand. Since the hand history lists blinds posted in their sequential order relative to all blinds posted instead of the actual chip amount e.g. "xxxx posts small blinds 1234567" (uhh derp?), the script cannot tally up all the missing chips from those specific pots.

The correct SB and BB values are in the first line of the HH, so it shouldn't be hard to substitute the correct values for the garbage SB/BB values in the HH, e.g.:

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Hand #15435592: Pot Limit Big O - 0.50/1
2017-04-06 08:29:27
Table 'Deep Giant 1' Seat 4 is the button
Seat 1: player1 (179.06)
Seat 2: player2 (75)
Seat 4: player4 (136.47)
Seat 5: player5 (137.14)
Seat 6: player6 (75)
player5: posts the small blind 8960060
player6: posts the big blind 8960032

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August 21, 2017, 09:48:50 AM
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To give players perspective, here are the results of some hands I found in two players' hand histories that showed where I am owed chips. Unfortunately I don't have my own hand history, which really puts this into perspective, as this is just a small amount pieced together.
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C:\Users\DAVE\kook hand history\2016-02-14\Sorrel - 0.05-0.10 - No Limit Holdem.txt, 7846975, RUchamp (.05)
C:\Users\DAVE\kook hand history\2016-02-15\Sorrel - 0.05-0.10 - No Limit Holdem.txt, 7853031, RUchamp (.05)
C:\Users\DAVE\kook hand history\2016-02-18\Humongous 3 - 0.10-0.20 - Pot Limit Big O.txt, 7928466, RUchamp (.2)
C:\Users\DAVE\kook hand history\2016-02-20\Garlic - 0.10-0.20 - No Limit Holdem.txt, 7984503, RUchamp (.2)
C:\Users\DAVE\kook hand history\2016-02-20\Garlic - 0.10-0.20 - No Limit Holdem.txt, 7984703, RUchamp (.1)
C:\Users\DAVE\kook hand history\2016-02-21\Humongous - 0.10-0.20 - Pot Limit Big O.txt, 8023857, RUchamp (.9)
C:\Users\DAVE\kook hand history\2016-02-25\Wail - 0.25-0.50 - Pot Limit Omaha Hi-Lo 5 Card.txt, 8120812, RUchamp|btcpokerfund (.75)
C:\Users\DAVE\kook hand history\2016-03-04\Wide Gauge 1 - 0.05-0.10 - Pot Limit Big O.txt, 8302658, RUchamp (.1)
C:\Users\DAVE\kook hand history\2016-03-08\Finger - 0.10-0.20 - Pot Limit Courchevel.txt, 8425322, RUchamp (.2)
C:\Users\DAVE\kook hand history\2016-03-16\Gangster - 0.10-0.20 - Pot Limit Omaha Hi-Lo 5 Card.txt, 8591854, kook|RUchamp (.05)
C:\Users\DAVE\kook hand history\2016-03-20\Rude Boy 1 - 0.02-0.04 - Pot Limit Omaha Hi-Lo 5 Card.txt, 8685846, RUchamp (.06)
C:\Users\DAVE\kook hand history\2016-03-24\Zoot - 0.50-1 - Pot Limit Omaha Hi-Lo 5 Card.txt, 8788726, RUchamp (1)
C:\Users\DAVE\kook hand history\2016-03-30\Beige 1 - 0.50-1 - Pot Limit Omaha.txt, 8914755, RUchamp (.5)
C:\Users\DAVE\kook hand history\2016-03-30\Giant - 0.50-1 - Pot Limit Big O.txt, 8912200, RUchamp (.5)
C:\Users\DAVE\kook hand history\2016-03-31\Giant 2 - 0.50-1 - Pot Limit Big O.txt, 8931192, RUchamp (4.5)
C:\Users\DAVE\kook hand history\2016-04-01\Colossal - 2-4 - Pot Limit Big O.txt, 8955577, RUchamp (14)
C:\Users\DAVE\kook hand history\2016-04-01\Giant - 0.50-1 - Pot Limit Big O.txt, 8951904, RUchamp (1)
C:\Users\DAVE\kook hand history\2016-04-01\Giant - 0.50-1 - Pot Limit Big O.txt, 8951914, RUchamp (12)
C:\Users\DAVE\kook hand history\2016-04-01\Giant - 0.50-1 - Pot Limit Big O.txt, 8952242, RUchamp (1)
C:\Users\DAVE\kook hand history\2016-04-01\Giant - 0.50-1 - Pot Limit Big O.txt, 8952589, RUchamp (1)
C:\Users\DAVE\kook hand history\2016-04-14\Wide Gauge - 0.05-0.10 - Pot Limit Big O.txt, 9209897, RUchamp (.05)
C:\Users\DAVE\kook hand history\2016-04-19\Humongous - 0.10-0.20 - Pot Limit Big O.txt, 9305616, RUchamp (.1)
C:\Users\DAVE\kook hand history\2016-04-21\Heavy Duty - 0.25-0.50 - Pot Limit Big O.txt, 9342221, RUchamp (.25)
C:\Users\DAVE\kook hand history\2016-04-21\Wide Gauge - 0.05-0.10 - Pot Limit Big O.txt, 9345684, RUchamp (.1)
C:\Users\DAVE\kook hand history\2016-04-27\Gangster - 0.10-0.20 - Pot Limit Omaha Hi-Lo 5 Card.txt, 9449502, RUchamp (.1)
C:\Users\DAVE\kook hand history\2016-04-28\Square - 0.05-0.10 - Pot Limit Omaha Hi-Lo 5 Card.txt, 9480954, RUchamp (.1)
C:\Users\DAVE\kook hand history\2016-04-28\Wide Gauge 2 - 0.05-0.10 - Pot Limit Big O.txt, 9482319, kook|RUchamp (.05)
C:\Users\DAVE\kook hand history\2016-04-28\Wide Gauge 2 - 0.05-0.10 - Pot Limit Big O.txt, 9484489, RUchamp (.05)
C:\Users\DAVE\kook hand history\2016-05-11\Humongous - 0.10-0.20 - Pot Limit Big O.txt, 9733419, RUchamp (.2)
C:\Users\DAVE\kook hand history\2016-05-20\Iron - 0.10-0.20 - No Limit Omaha Hi-Lo.txt, 9924056, RUchamp (2.1)
C:\Users\DAVE\kook hand history\2016-05-20\Square - 0.05-0.10 - Pot Limit Omaha Hi-Lo 5 Card.txt, 9925159, RUchamp (.35)
C:\Users\DAVE\kook hand history\2016-05-22\Humongous - 0.10-0.20 - Pot Limit Big O.txt, 9951857, RUchamp (.8)
C:\Users\DAVE\kook hand history\2016-06-29\Cyan 1 - 0.10-0.20 - Pot Limit Omaha.txt, 10671720, RUchamp (2.4)
C:\Users\DAVE\kook hand history\2016-06-29\Spearmint 1 - 0.01-0.02 - No Limit Holdem.txt, 10667682, RUchamp (.31)
C:\Users\DAVE\kook hand history\2016-09-25\Bay Leaf - 0.25-0.50 - No Limit Holdem.txt, 12238569, RUchamp (.25)
C:\Users\DAVE\kook hand history\2016-09-25\Gangster - 0.10-0.20 - Pot Limit Omaha Hi-Lo 5 Card.txt, 12250151, RUchamp (.2)
C:\Users\DAVE\kook hand history\2016-09-26\Deep Wail - 0.25-0.50 - Pot Limit Omaha Hi-Lo 5 Card.txt, 12257024, RUchamp|embah (.25)
C:\Users\DAVE\kook hand history\2016-09-26\Octopus - 1-2 - Limit Mixed 8 Game.txt, 12255664, RUchamp|BertBert (1)
C:\Users\DAVE\kook hand history\2016-09-29\Wide Gauge - 0.05-0.10 - Pot Limit Big O.txt, 12322775, RUchamp (.1)
C:\Users\DAVE\kook hand history\2016-10-30\Deep Wail - 0.25-0.50 - Pot Limit Omaha Hi-Lo 5 Card.txt, 12828531, RUchamp|kapitaaal (1.75)
C:\Users\DAVE\kook hand history\2016-10-30\Finger - 0.10-0.20 - Pot Limit Courchevel.txt, 12835171, RUchamp (1)
C:\Users\DAVE\kook hand history\2016-11-01\Heavy Duty - 0.25-0.50 - Pot Limit Big O.txt, 12857320, RUchamp (.5)
C:\Users\DAVE\kook hand history\2016-11-15\Rude Boy - 0.02-0.04 - Pot Limit Omaha Hi-Lo 5 Card.txt, 13117771, RUchamp (.02)
C:\Users\DAVE\kook hand history\2016-11-21\Deep Monster - 0.25-0.50 - Pot Limit Big O.txt, 13234095, RUchamp (.25)
C:\Users\DAVE\kook hand history\2016-11-23\Deep Wail - 0.25-0.50 - Pot Limit Omaha Hi-Lo 5 Card.txt, 13278319, RUchamp (.25)
C:\Users\DAVE\kook hand history\2016-11-24\Deep Immense 1 - 0.10-0.20 - Pot Limit Big O.txt, 13301033, RUchamp (.9)
C:\Users\DAVE\kook hand history\2016-12-09\Nose - 0.10-0.20 - Pot Limit Courchevel Hi-Lo.txt, 13565712, RUchamp (.1)
C:\Users\DAVE\kook hand history\2016-12-18\Savory - 0.25-0.50 - No Limit Holdem.txt, 13703333, RUchamp (1)
C:\Users\DAVE\kook hand history\2016-12-19\Humongous - 0.10-0.20 - Pot Limit Big O.txt, 13725663, RUchamp (.9)
C:\Users\DAVE\kook hand history\2016-12-24\Heavy Duty - 0.25-0.50 - Pot Limit Big O.txt, 13808041, RUchamp (1.75)
C:\Users\DAVE\kook hand history\2016-12-25\Heavy Duty - 0.25-0.50 - Pot Limit Big O.txt, 13811239, RUchamp (.5)
C:\Users\DAVE\kook hand history\2017-01-09\Wail - 0.25-0.50 - Pot Limit Omaha Hi-Lo 5 Card.txt, 14083910, RUchamp (5.5)
C:\Users\DAVE\kook hand history\2017-01-11\Square - 0.05-0.10 - Pot Limit Omaha Hi-Lo 5 Card.txt, 14071979, DontForgetMe|RUchamp|ambulando (.07)
C:\Users\DAVE\kook hand history\2017-01-11\Wail - 0.25-0.50 - Pot Limit Omaha Hi-Lo 5 Card.txt, 14118968, RUchamp (.5)
C:\Users\DAVE\kook hand history\2017-02-02\Humongous - 0.10-0.20 - Pot Limit Big O.txt, 14479463, RUchamp (.1)
C:\Users\DAVE\kook hand history\2017-02-06\Glance - 0.02-0.04 - Pot Limit Courchevel Hi-Lo.txt, 14538987, RUchamp (.04)
C:\Users\DAVE\kook hand history\2017-02-22\Square - 0.05-0.10 - Pot Limit Omaha Hi-Lo 5 Card.txt, 14788172, kook|RUchamp (.03)
C:\Users\DAVE\Games - Copy (1)\Games - Copy\2016-03-05\Giant 1 - 0.50-1 - Pot Limit Big O.txt, 8346226, RUchamp (.5)
C:\Users\DAVE\Games - Copy (1)\Games - Copy\2016-03-09\Weekday 1 - 0.25-0.50 - Pot Limit Courchevel.txt, 8428828, RUchamp (2.25)
C:\Users\DAVE\Games - Copy (1)\Games - Copy\2016-09-27\Deep Cover - 0.25-0.50 - Pot Limit Omaha Hi-Lo 5 Card.txt, 12287694, RUchamp (.25)
C:\Users\DAVE\Games - Copy (1)\Games - Copy\2016-09-27\Deep Cover 1 - 0.25-0.50 - Pot Limit Omaha Hi-Lo 5 Card.txt, 12277910, RUchamp (.25)
C:\Users\DAVE\Games - Copy (1)\Games - Copy\2016-10-24\Bay Leaf - 0.25-0.50 - No Limit Holdem.txt, 12720462, RUchamp (.5)
C:\Users\DAVE\Games - Copy (1)\Games - Copy\2016-11-01\Heavy Duty - 0.25-0.50 - Pot Limit Big O.txt, 12857752, RUchamp (.25)
C:\Users\DAVE\Games - Copy (1)\Games - Copy\2016-11-02\Heavy Duty - 0.25-0.50 - Pot Limit Big O.txt, 12875719, RUchamp|TheTranny (.13)
C:\Users\DAVE\Games - Copy (1)\Games - Copy\2016-11-11\Humongous 1 - 0.10-0.20 - Pot Limit Big O.txt, 13048805, RUchamp (1.4)
C:\Users\DAVE\Games - Copy (1)\Games - Copy\2016-12-07\Heavy Duty - 0.25-0.50 - Pot Limit Big O.txt, 13535291, RUchamp (.25)
C:\Users\DAVE\Games - Copy (1)\Games - Copy\2016-12-18\Heavy Duty 1 - 0.25-0.50 - Pot Limit Big O.txt, 13710623, RUchamp (.25)
C:\Users\DAVE\Games - Copy (1)\Games - Copy\2017-01-02\Humongous 1 - 0.10-0.20 - Pot Limit Big O.txt, 13945362, RUchamp (.7)
C:\Users\DAVE\Games - Copy (1)\Games - Copy\2017-01-23\Cello - 0.10-0.20 - Dealer's Choice.txt, 14314934, RUchamp (.2)
This is 69.01 chips in total.
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August 21, 2017, 01:21:36 PM
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Sure would be nice to hear from SWC to calm this hysteria and give us the truth.
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August 21, 2017, 09:28:31 PM
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I'd like to start by saying that I'd happily pick Donk4u or RUchamp to be godfather to my future children.

@swcpoker, please release hand histories so that we can independently verify the discrepancies.

I would also like an official statement from SWC as to whether they encouraged players to discovered this bug to keep quiet, thereby tacitly permitting them to exploit it and cheat other players.
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August 22, 2017, 01:35:49 AM
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I'd like to start by saying that I'd happily pick Donk4u or RUchamp to be godfather to my future children.




lolol

damn 2.5 years that was happening im prob owed some chips from playing with u donks
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August 22, 2017, 02:33:45 AM
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Giving the site another look ---> It's just so hard to find a tournament to play.  Not really worth the fee to deposit chips onto the site ---> where's the traffic?  27 active players online now ---> Almost all freerolling!  Where's the action?

Interesting comment.

Have a nice day
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August 22, 2017, 10:21:13 AM
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Only because I have such a hard time explaining any of the complexities of this situation on SWC without being met by fervent tribalism for SWC/glitch..


For all you shills and shillettes:


https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/341035669650407425/349477110588375040/unknown.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/341035669650407425/349477062429507584/unknown.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/341035669650407425/349476981177450497/unknown.png


Glitch claims he knew about it for say, a month before the rest of us, yet this is not in any way a justification of him clearly keeping this from players he is so closely associated with (or was), and that players addressed him about the bug.


Infer what you will, people.


These screenshots don't even address the fact that the bug had happened not only once but twice from presumably SWC conception (early 2015) until an undisclosed time, and then reappeared sometime(??) in 2017 until April(??) of 2017. The point of mentioning this is that as many players whether in discord or in SWC chat box had been wholly uninformed whether by glitch (who is a 'man of the people' in those parts) or by SWC themselves. No formal statement, no official time frames, nothing. Glitch didn't say a word to any of us etc. etc.


Again, infer what you will.


** It is also worth noting there was no actual formal statement from SWC until this was brought more into the light by some players (including yours truly) and the players found out not from glitch who did know before the rest of us, but from other players finally either finding out themselves or finally bringing it to light. I could be wrong claiming this as I'm too lazy to go read what they posted originally so for what its worth: I'm pretty sure swc hasn't actually addressed the fact formally that this bug has happened before (2015-?) but only claims it happened the most recent time, and has been patched.

 Kiss Kiss Kiss Kiss Kiss
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August 22, 2017, 04:42:15 PM
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SO, the script is now fully functional, it searches through hand history and outputs hand numbers with missing money, and the winners of that hand. Since the hand history lists blinds posted in their sequential order relative to all blinds posted instead of the actual chip amount e.g. "xxxx posts small blinds 1234567" (uhh derp?), the script cannot tally up all the missing chips from those specific pots.

The output looks like this:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/341035669650407425/349034196670480404/unknown.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/341035669650407425/349031935164809218/unknown.png
So there you have it. If you are interested in having the script run through your hand history contact me either on private message here, on the various discord channels, or on the swc trollbox, though you're most likely to get a prompt response on discord.

If I like you ill run it for free, if you're a random I am charging 5 chips for the service, and if I don't like you... then wtf are you reading this for, shithead. Angry  Grin Grin Roll Eyes Kiss

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Some hands are missing the name of the player who won, im looking into it but it seems to be infrequent enough to not bother adding a fix as its probably just another type of SWC patented ShitWare(tm). If SWC holds true to their word of making available full (non-corrupted) hand histories, this script will serve as an even stronger auditing tool (which is why im charging for the service in general, as there is value in being able to audit these sorts of things, especially in this sort of volume; one mistake or missing hand could be 20+ chips!)

Some hands are false positives (from more SWC software bugginess) and show the beginnings of one hand and the end of others.

EDIT: https://discord.gg/X8pSrVm <-- link to SWC officially unofficial discord room



If you do not release the source all of the information above is meaningless. Do you think saying "bad hands"  "missing money" is technical speak? Do you think command line output is proof of functionality?

You are dishonest and you are trying to sell this script to people in chat for $20 a pop, and you are giving them a 3 line command line output. Do you think this wordy message makes you trustworthy? When pushed for further proof, you pasted a file path similar to C:\Users\Cosby\stills\nash.bat. I am still laughing,

Which third party, as you confirmed, did you hire to write this "script" ?  You are asking readers to trust you completely that the PERSON you hired to write this script (I heard you paid $5 on fiverr.com) has written acceptable code, that matches what people are actually owed. You are charging them to tell them a number that they want to hear.

Literacy is inherent to a functional society. Don't let people take advantage of your lack of technical knowledge for short term profits. This is a scam.
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August 22, 2017, 04:46:43 PM
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Only because I have such a hard time explaining any of the complexities of this situation on SWC without being met by fervent tribalism for SWC/glitch..


For all you shills and shillettes:


https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/341035669650407425/349477110588375040/unknown.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/341035669650407425/349477062429507584/unknown.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/341035669650407425/349476981177450497/unknown.png


Glitch claims he knew about it for say, a month before the rest of us, yet this is not in any way a justification of him clearly keeping this from players he is so closely associated with (or was), and that players addressed him about the bug.


Infer what you will, people.


These screenshots don't even address the fact that the bug had happened not only once but twice from presumably SWC conception (early 2015) until an undisclosed time, and then reappeared sometime(??) in 2017 until April(??) of 2017. The point of mentioning this is that as many players whether in discord or in SWC chat box had been wholly uninformed whether by glitch (who is a 'man of the people' in those parts) or by SWC themselves. No formal statement, no official time frames, nothing. Glitch didn't say a word to any of us etc. etc.


Again, infer what you will.


** It is also worth noting there was no actual formal statement from SWC until this was brought more into the light by some players (including yours truly) and the players found out not from glitch who did know before the rest of us, but from other players finally either finding out themselves or finally bringing it to light. I could be wrong claiming this as I'm too lazy to go read what they posted originally so for what its worth: I'm pretty sure swc hasn't actually addressed the fact formally that this bug has happened before (2015-?) but only claims it happened the most recent time, and has been patched.

 Kiss Kiss Kiss Kiss Kiss


Just last week glitch said if I zipped up my hand histories and shared them with him that he'd analyze them.  He said he was fine doing it as long as I didn't mind him seeing how I play.  Brokeneck witnessed glitch saying this too.  Now he's saying he refuses to release his script until the refund comes.  Just one more lie in a long series of lies from that man.  I have no reason to believe anything that he says ever again.
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August 22, 2017, 04:48:58 PM
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Only because I have such a hard time explaining any of the complexities of this situation on SWC without being met by fervent tribalism for SWC/glitch..


For all you shills and shillettes:


https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/341035669650407425/349477110588375040/unknown.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/341035669650407425/349477062429507584/unknown.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/341035669650407425/349476981177450497/unknown.png


Glitch claims he knew about it for say, a month before the rest of us, yet this is not in any way a justification of him clearly keeping this from players he is so closely associated with (or was), and that players addressed him about the bug.


Infer what you will, people.


These screenshots don't even address the fact that the bug had happened not only once but twice from presumably SWC conception (early 2015) until an undisclosed time, and then reappeared sometime(??) in 2017 until April(??) of 2017. The point of mentioning this is that as many players whether in discord or in SWC chat box had been wholly uninformed whether by glitch (who is a 'man of the people' in those parts) or by SWC themselves. No formal statement, no official time frames, nothing. Glitch didn't say a word to any of us etc. etc.


Again, infer what you will.


** It is also worth noting there was no actual formal statement from SWC until this was brought more into the light by some players (including yours truly) and the players found out not from glitch who did know before the rest of us, but from other players finally either finding out themselves or finally bringing it to light. I could be wrong claiming this as I'm too lazy to go read what they posted originally so for what its worth: I'm pretty sure swc hasn't actually addressed the fact formally that this bug has happened before (2015-?) but only claims it happened the most recent time, and has been patched.

 Kiss Kiss Kiss Kiss Kiss


Just last week glitch said if I zipped up my hand histories and shared them with him that he'd analyze them.  He said he was fine doing it as long as I didn't mind him seeing how I play.  Brokeneck witnessed glitch saying this too.  Now he's saying he refuses to release his script until the refund comes.  Just one more lie in a long series of lies from that man.  I have no reason to believe anything that he says ever again.

So you're saying RUchamp's script is not the official solution for determining the existence and frequency of error and reaching an accurate number? You're saying that you don't know anything? How much out of the 5 chip price do you accept as payment?

:O
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August 22, 2017, 05:10:25 PM
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Only because I have such a hard time explaining any of the complexities of this situation on SWC without being met by fervent tribalism for SWC/glitch..


For all you shills and shillettes:


https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/341035669650407425/349477110588375040/unknown.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/341035669650407425/349477062429507584/unknown.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/341035669650407425/349476981177450497/unknown.png


Glitch claims he knew about it for say, a month before the rest of us, yet this is not in any way a justification of him clearly keeping this from players he is so closely associated with (or was), and that players addressed him about the bug.


Infer what you will, people.


These screenshots don't even address the fact that the bug had happened not only once but twice from presumably SWC conception (early 2015) until an undisclosed time, and then reappeared sometime(??) in 2017 until April(??) of 2017. The point of mentioning this is that as many players whether in discord or in SWC chat box had been wholly uninformed whether by glitch (who is a 'man of the people' in those parts) or by SWC themselves. No formal statement, no official time frames, nothing. Glitch didn't say a word to any of us etc. etc.


Again, infer what you will.


** It is also worth noting there was no actual formal statement from SWC until this was brought more into the light by some players (including yours truly) and the players found out not from glitch who did know before the rest of us, but from other players finally either finding out themselves or finally bringing it to light. I could be wrong claiming this as I'm too lazy to go read what they posted originally so for what its worth: I'm pretty sure swc hasn't actually addressed the fact formally that this bug has happened before (2015-?) but only claims it happened the most recent time, and has been patched.

 Kiss Kiss Kiss Kiss Kiss


Just last week glitch said if I zipped up my hand histories and shared them with him that he'd analyze them.  He said he was fine doing it as long as I didn't mind him seeing how I play.  Brokeneck witnessed glitch saying this too.  Now he's saying he refuses to release his script until the refund comes.  Just one more lie in a long series of lies from that man.  I have no reason to believe anything that he says ever again.

So you're saying RUchamp's script is not the official solution for determining the existence and frequency of error and reaching an accurate number? You're saying that you don't know anything? How much out of the 5 chip price do you accept as payment?

:O

You're fake news, Myz94.  You're just trying to fill this thread with nonsense and lies to distract the readers from the truth.  RUchamp's script was written by a community of programmers who have more skill than anyone on swc.  I have no profit motive in people using his script.  They are free to use the script that glitch promised to distribute to marlais, brokeneck, ruchamp, myself, etc if only he'd release it as he promised he would.  Glitch lies.  SWC lies.  There is no more doubt to pretend otherwise.
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August 22, 2017, 05:22:52 PM
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Only because I have such a hard time explaining any of the complexities of this situation on SWC without being met by fervent tribalism for SWC/glitch..


For all you shills and shillettes:


https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/341035669650407425/349477110588375040/unknown.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/341035669650407425/349477062429507584/unknown.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/341035669650407425/349476981177450497/unknown.png


Glitch claims he knew about it for say, a month before the rest of us, yet this is not in any way a justification of him clearly keeping this from players he is so closely associated with (or was), and that players addressed him about the bug.


Infer what you will, people.


These screenshots don't even address the fact that the bug had happened not only once but twice from presumably SWC conception (early 2015) until an undisclosed time, and then reappeared sometime(??) in 2017 until April(??) of 2017. The point of mentioning this is that as many players whether in discord or in SWC chat box had been wholly uninformed whether by glitch (who is a 'man of the people' in those parts) or by SWC themselves. No formal statement, no official time frames, nothing. Glitch didn't say a word to any of us etc. etc.


Again, infer what you will.


** It is also worth noting there was no actual formal statement from SWC until this was brought more into the light by some players (including yours truly) and the players found out not from glitch who did know before the rest of us, but from other players finally either finding out themselves or finally bringing it to light. I could be wrong claiming this as I'm too lazy to go read what they posted originally so for what its worth: I'm pretty sure swc hasn't actually addressed the fact formally that this bug has happened before (2015-?) but only claims it happened the most recent time, and has been patched.

 Kiss Kiss Kiss Kiss Kiss


Just last week glitch said if I zipped up my hand histories and shared them with him that he'd analyze them.  He said he was fine doing it as long as I didn't mind him seeing how I play.  Brokeneck witnessed glitch saying this too.  Now he's saying he refuses to release his script until the refund comes.  Just one more lie in a long series of lies from that man.  I have no reason to believe anything that he says ever again.

So you're saying RUchamp's script is not the official solution for determining the existence and frequency of error and reaching an accurate number? You're saying that you don't know anything? How much out of the 5 chip price do you accept as payment?

:O

You're fake news, Myz94.  You're just trying to fill this thread with nonsense and lies to distract the readers from the truth.  RUchamp's script was written by a community of programmers who have more skill than anyone on swc.  I have no profit motive in people using his script.  They are free to use the script that glitch promised to distribute to marlais, brokeneck, ruchamp, myself, etc if only he'd release it as he promised he would.  Glitch lies.  SWC lies.  There is no more doubt to pretend otherwise.

If I'm fake news, tell me this: do you understand how the script was written or how it works? Does the word "script" mean some kind of magical nonsense to your medicated brain?

It was not written by a community of programmers. You and RUChamp have a direct profit motive, as he has already admitted he is sharing the profits with you guys. You are selling a script without providing any information on it, you are simply asking people to commit $20 to receive a 3-line output that is designed to appease them. It's a good way to make money, I give you that, but it's not honest. You are being just as dodgy about your script as SwC is about their analysis. You simply cannot explain what the problem is, and you cannot explain how your script calculates it.


I applaud SwC for not exhibiting the immaturity and unwarranted technical certainty that you seem to live under. I suggest you let RUchamp try to do the talking. No need to dumb it down, as your readers aren't too naive to understand the large spectrum of quality in one-off programming projects from a cheap source. There are a number of ways to confirm the accuracy and functionality of your script without releasing the source for free to everyone, though that's what you would do if you were interested in helping people.

On another note I'm offering my own script. It tells you how many times youll lose with AA in Trump's presidency. It's community supported, and here are some of the commands I use to run it:

cd porn
mkdir swcscriptlol
mkdir handhistoryanalysis
pip install foresight
python manage.py runsupersmarthandanalysisserver

Ok so I clearly have some scripts up and running that analyze hand history and provide you with an accurate value of "bad hands". There is nothing you can say to prove I have not done so. You are simply smearing fake news everywhere if you doubt the validity of the script I just wrote.

I commissioned it. Only charging $10 for mine. Let me know if you want screenshots lmao
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August 22, 2017, 05:49:58 PM
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Only because I have such a hard time explaining any of the complexities of this situation on SWC without being met by fervent tribalism for SWC/glitch..


For all you shills and shillettes:


https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/341035669650407425/349477110588375040/unknown.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/341035669650407425/349477062429507584/unknown.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/341035669650407425/349476981177450497/unknown.png


Glitch claims he knew about it for say, a month before the rest of us, yet this is not in any way a justification of him clearly keeping this from players he is so closely associated with (or was), and that players addressed him about the bug.


Infer what you will, people.


These screenshots don't even address the fact that the bug had happened not only once but twice from presumably SWC conception (early 2015) until an undisclosed time, and then reappeared sometime(??) in 2017 until April(??) of 2017. The point of mentioning this is that as many players whether in discord or in SWC chat box had been wholly uninformed whether by glitch (who is a 'man of the people' in those parts) or by SWC themselves. No formal statement, no official time frames, nothing. Glitch didn't say a word to any of us etc. etc.


Again, infer what you will.


** It is also worth noting there was no actual formal statement from SWC until this was brought more into the light by some players (including yours truly) and the players found out not from glitch who did know before the rest of us, but from other players finally either finding out themselves or finally bringing it to light. I could be wrong claiming this as I'm too lazy to go read what they posted originally so for what its worth: I'm pretty sure swc hasn't actually addressed the fact formally that this bug has happened before (2015-?) but only claims it happened the most recent time, and has been patched.

 Kiss Kiss Kiss Kiss Kiss


Just last week glitch said if I zipped up my hand histories and shared them with him that he'd analyze them.  He said he was fine doing it as long as I didn't mind him seeing how I play.  Brokeneck witnessed glitch saying this too.  Now he's saying he refuses to release his script until the refund comes.  Just one more lie in a long series of lies from that man.  I have no reason to believe anything that he says ever again.

So you're saying RUchamp's script is not the official solution for determining the existence and frequency of error and reaching an accurate number? You're saying that you don't know anything? How much out of the 5 chip price do you accept as payment?

:O

You're fake news, Myz94.  You're just trying to fill this thread with nonsense and lies to distract the readers from the truth.  RUchamp's script was written by a community of programmers who have more skill than anyone on swc.  I have no profit motive in people using his script.  They are free to use the script that glitch promised to distribute to marlais, brokeneck, ruchamp, myself, etc if only he'd release it as he promised he would.  Glitch lies.  SWC lies.  There is no more doubt to pretend otherwise.

If I'm fake news, tell me this: do you understand how the script was written or how it works? Does the word "script" mean some kind of magical nonsense to your medicated brain?

It was not written by a community of programmers. You and RUChamp have a direct profit motive, as he has already admitted he is sharing the profits with you guys. You are selling a script without providing any information on it, you are simply asking people to commit $20 to receive a 3-line output that is designed to appease them. It's a good way to make money, I give you that, but it's not honest. You are being just as dodgy about your script as SwC is about their analysis. You simply cannot explain what the problem is, and you cannot explain how your script calculates it.


I applaud SwC for not exhibiting the immaturity and unwarranted technical certainty that you seem to live under. I suggest you let RUchamp try to do the talking. No need to dumb it down, as your readers aren't too naive to understand the large spectrum of quality in one-off programming projects from a cheap source. There are a number of ways to confirm the accuracy and functionality of your script without releasing the source for free to everyone, though that's what you would do if you were interested in helping people.

On another note I'm offering my own script. It tells you how many times youll lose with AA in Trump's presidency. It's community supported, and here are some of the commands I use to run it:

cd porn
mkdir swcscriptlol
mkdir handhistoryanalysis
pip install foresight
python manage.py runsupersmarthandanalysisserver

Ok so I clearly have some scripts up and running that analyze hand history and provide you with an accurate value of "bad hands". There is nothing you can say to prove I have not done so. You are simply smearing fake news everywhere if you doubt the validity of the script I just wrote.

I commissioned it. Only charging $10 for mine. Let me know if you want screenshots lmao


RU never said he's sharing shit with anyone.  You're a liar.  I even saw you say shit in the trollbox the other day about me multiaccounting in freerolls.  You make up shit all the time.  Your reputation is shit on SWC and I hope the readers of this forum have that perspective.

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