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March 01, 2015, 06:12:29 PM
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russians are so weird.
Don't confuse this liberastic thug with russians. These demotards are seem weird not due to their nationality, but because of their schizophrenic activities. It doesn't depend on nationality and they would seem weird to any sensible person.

23? she looks 50. And whats going on with that photo? whats the backstory? russians are so weird.
I'm talking about the one who was a witness to his death.



Anna Duritskaya, 23 years old ukrainian citizen. She had already testified as a witness. Smiley


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March 01, 2015, 07:13:38 PM
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It doesn't look like it would suit Putin at the moment, but on the other hand it wouldn't be his first assassination. Somebody probably thought it would suit his KGB style Wink

Who ever did it, was right, such pigs to the severs.

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March 01, 2015, 08:12:00 PM
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the name of this thread is very misleading and provocative.
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March 01, 2015, 08:21:34 PM
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the name of this thread is very misleading and provocative.

don't ask them more... they can already write... almost a miracle in itself... even if it's ctrl+c/v most of the time. ahh yes they can tell which dress color they prefer... oooohhhrrraaa. eat your gmo, and stfu.

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March 01, 2015, 08:24:59 PM
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You know, even if Putin didn't directly have it out for the guy there are Putin supporters who would take out Putin's adversaries.  It's just good evidence of why there needs to be term limits.

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March 01, 2015, 08:31:24 PM
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You know, even if Putin didn't directly have it out for the guy there are Putin supporters who would take out Putin's adversaries.  It's just good evidence of why there needs to be term limits.

I agree the problem is that the West is waging wars against the rest of the world (including Russia, China, MENA+Iran, The first Angel, everyone that doesn't bow to the will of the overlord of d.c. and others hot spots of America and the west (like bruxel). So without any pretentions to know, but I don't know what would justify the change of the guards now... Right now, there is no American DU made on Russian soils, no gmos, the ccy is independent (don't worry as long as the WSers can come and leave freely in ns, they may, one day, open their eyes on the us scam and chose to join in), the Tigers are happy...

Frankly I am sure that the most "dangerous" people of the Russian Services would be very happy to be able to invite as friends a restored American citizen for a bisons (yes) to eat at their datcha and let this world of war and attrition and competition behind... but the amerikis don't want it. they want to rape, exploit and dominate.

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March 01, 2015, 10:08:07 PM
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You know, even if Putin didn't directly have it out for the guy there are Putin supporters who would take out Putin's adversaries.  It's just good evidence of why there needs to be term limits.

It doesn't look like it would suit Putin at the moment, but on the other hand it wouldn't be his first assassination. Somebody probably thought it would suit his KGB style Wink

Let's try to slap it at Putin in whatever way we can and see if it sticks, eh?

Oh, and Stargazer, what assassinations are you referring to? Proof?

the name of this thread is very misleading and provocative.

This, and of the other thread. That's the whole point of black PR.

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Last edit: March 01, 2015, 11:22:50 PM by Nemo1024
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Just in, the article also includes the chronology of the events and a lot of background:

Lada’s Investigation: Who Benefits from the Death of the Russian Opposition Leader Boris Nemtsov?
https://futuristrendcast.wordpress.com/2015/02/28/ladas-investigation-who-benefits-from-the-death-of-the-russian-oppositioner-boris-nemtsov/

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I said on various occasions that attempts to destabilize the situation in Russia, and various provocations against Russia, will continue. In January, I also said that we should expect a massive false flag, possibly something to do with killing of major politicians. I, as many others, was watching Ukraine for that. But following the rule that watched pot never boils, while we were looking at Ukraine, it happened in Moscow.

However, there still is a very clear connection to Ukraine. Read about that below.

Today, on March 1, the Russian pro-West neo-liberal opposition, together with its leaders Boris Nemtsov, leader of the right-wing party Parnas, and Alexei Navalny, planed a mass anti-Putin rally in Moscow.
Just less than 2 days before that Boris Nemtsov was shot with six bullets into his back from a passing car, while strolling near Kremlin with his girlfriend, a Ukrainian model who just flew in from Kiev.
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The anti-Russian sentiment in the EU started slowly subsiding as Berlin-Paris and Moscow are trying to work together on Ukraine peace. Because there is a growing rift between US and EU, US needs desperately to re-awaken the anti-Russian sentiment and animosity between EU and Russia and to ‘re-subdue’ Western Europe to its will. US cannot afford NOT to have EU firmly in its corner as it would further weaken the US empire and petrodollar. But EU is slowly but surely breaking away.

What does US want to accomplish with this false flag? US wants a bloody color revolution in Russia; they want destabilization with eventual break up of Russia, in order to take Russia over economically and militarily. US cannot win a hot war against Russia, therefore, the only way is to blow up the country from within.
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Ukraine and Kiev junta benefit tremendously. Russia is a huge irritant for them. Russia is in their way of trying to conquer Donbass. They think that if Russia is busy with color revolution on Moscow streets, then Kiev junta is free to resume the killing of the Donbass people. In addition, the revenge scenario for Crimea, Donbass, and all other Kiev’s real or perceived humiliations, is equally plausible.
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The important detail is the presence of a girlfriend from Kiev, who flew in just previously. All experts say as one that usually during a professional contract killing such as this companions never survive. This one did – unharmed. She knew him for a couple of years, they say. Was she a CIA asset, who was making sure Nemtsov was kept on a leash? Or was she for real, but with the latest events in Ukraine either ukro-nazis or the junta SBU got to her and her family? Was she threatened or paid off to lead him into the spot where he was shot and she lived? Either way, the girlfriend from Kiev is a very suspicious detail.

Another very interesting detail: The color revolution in Russia was being prepared in 2011-12, in time for the Vladimir Putin re-election, and Boris Nemtsov was supposed to be one of the leaders. At that time, oligarch Boris Berezovsky was plotting it from his London mansion. He openly said that the best way to start a maidan in Russia was to execute ‘the right sacrificial lamb.’ Berezovsky considered the charismatic and popular Nemtsov the right candidate. Nemtsov knew that.
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It seems no one in Russia – not even Russian liberals – is buying into the ‘hand of the Kremlin’ idea. I foresee that as a result of this provocation, some Russian liberals may finally see the light and change their views from pro-Kiev-junta and pro-US to a more pro-Russian patriotic and balanced stance. One thing is to fight corruption and another thing is to work to undermine the Russian state, whether willingly or unwillingly. I see more anti-Putin Russian liberals opening their eyes to the fact that they are being a destructive tool being used by the US/West for their ulterior motives.

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March 02, 2015, 04:53:35 PM
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It doesn't look like it would suit Putin at the moment, but on the other hand it wouldn't be his first assassination. Somebody probably thought it would suit his KGB style Wink

Let's try to slap it at Putin in whatever way we can and see if it sticks, eh?

Oh, and Stargazer, what assassinations are you referring to? Proof?

Alexander Litvinenko and Anna Politkovskaya.
The guy who poisoned Litvinenko immediately fled to Russia and became protected by the state. They denied his extradition and made him an MP.

It is interesting, that both cases have trails, leading to Chechenia and Berezovskij's.

In case of Politkovskaja, the case was resolved last year. By the way, chief editor of "Novaja Ggazeta", where Politkovskaja worked, expressed satisfaction at how the investigation was conducted.

In case of Litvinenko, there are a lot of questions.
First: "The guy who poisoned Litvinenko" is actually "The guy whom the British baselessly accused of poisoning Litvinenko". There is a difference there.
Second. I wonder why some guys, according to statement from Litvinenko's wife, came to Litvinenko in the hospital, shaved his head and took several pictures of him (yes, those that went rounds in all MSM). Also, there is a discrepancy in the trace of polonium and his own movements, with traces appearing later in places, where they were not spotted first. Actually Litvinenko's case carries interesting false-flag-like similarity to the murder of Nemcov.
Third, Litvinenko had some interesting contacts in Italy, that were never officially investigated.
And finally, the Berezovskij nexus. From:
https://futuristrendcast.wordpress.com/2015/02/28/ladas-investigation-who-benefits-from-the-death-of-the-russian-oppositioner-boris-nemtsov

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Another very interesting detail: The color revolution in Russia was being prepared in 2011-12, in time for the Vladimir Putin re-election, and Boris Nemtsov was supposed to be one of the leaders. At that time, oligarch Boris Berezovsky was plotting it from his London mansion. He openly said that the best way to start a maidan in Russia was to execute ‘the right sacrificial lamb.’ Berezovsky considered the charismatic and popular Nemtsov the right candidate. Nemtsov knew that.

It’s interesting that Berezovsky himself became that sacrificial lamb a year later, after his plot failed. He was found in his London house after he ‘hung himself’ as UK investigators concluded,  but with suspicious bruises on his neck. It turned out that just previously, Berezovsky passed a secret letter to Putin asking for pardon and promising to spill the beans on his UK handlers. Shortly after, he died. Seeing that, Russia made public Berezovsky’s letter to Putin, which made it impossible to pin this murder on Russia and Putin, as they did with Litvinenko a few years earlier. As a result, UK had to urgently come up with the suicide verdict, despite the dead give away of the neck bruises.

Oh, and you still didn't answer my second question: "Proof?"

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March 02, 2015, 05:44:30 PM
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russians are so weird.
Don't confuse this liberastic thug with russians. These demotards are seem weird not due to their nationality, but because of their schizophrenic activities. It doesn't depend on nationality and they would seem weird to any sensible person.

23? she looks 50. And whats going on with that photo? whats the backstory? russians are so weird.
I'm talking about the one who was a witness to his death.



Anna Duritskaya, 23 years old ukrainian citizen. She had already testified as a witness. Smiley


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It's obviously just some party. Nobody cares.

Digging up dirt = character assassination. Why are you doing that? Do you have any idea how small the human population would be if wasn't for alcohol-assisted behaviour at parties? You would probably not exist.

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March 02, 2015, 05:49:30 PM
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Don't worry. The main suspect has put himself in charge of the investigation. I'm sure he'll get to the bottom of this.  Roll Eyes
And now it's being reported that none of the security cameras on the bridge in front of the Kremlin were working. Oh, Please.

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March 02, 2015, 05:58:09 PM
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I always thought of Nemtsov as a stud, his face and smile had been ever betraying his thoughts and intentions. I absolutely like such photos. They speak louder than words.




And that one looks photoshopped -- where is the shadow cast by the bra strap?? Or the outline of the fingers? It looks like some artist just drew red and white stripes on top of his hand.

You guys are desperate to beLIEve.

By the way, did you know that the Sandy Hook shooting was actually caused by Right Wing Russians? The official US story is clearly just a cover-up, and there actually millions of FSB agents, assassins and other Russian baddies infiltrating the US this very minute!
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March 02, 2015, 05:58:44 PM
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Actually Litvinenko's case carries interesting false-flag-like similarity to the murder of Nemcov.
Everything is much simplier.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=686828.msg10135672#msg10135672
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=686828.msg10137479#msg10137479

I think it's obvious that he was involved into illegal polonium trade. It seems that his exposition to polonium was accidental.
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March 02, 2015, 07:09:15 PM
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Who brought this murder ? We will never know ... really who is behind the curtains...

But for sure it showed some ... face of russia.

First, the big fail about Secret Service of Russia... all what you want FSB... this guy had many warnings about a possible murder or put in jail.

Ho yes, he get killed where in dark street ? ... no near the most know place in Moscow ... this is place is tracked down by so much Camera and ? Nothing Cheesy

So or service secret was aware ... and let it do ... or ? They are so weak ?? I doubt ...

Seconde, the wife is keep under control in Russia and can not leave the country anymore ? Why ?

Third... Hoo yes they used a stupid car that they let in place ... but used 6 differents Bullets to avoid to trace the weapons ?

And the last one, Poutine is perhaps not behind, but russian press show/post since years ... radical attack with murder call... this is what Russia Press driver by Governement brought... simply !

Poutine or not ... this is not the main problem, now the problem is => If you are not in the same way of thinking of the governement, you can be simply killed ...

Of course you will tell me ... hey it can happend ... hoo yes , it can ... but it start to be frequent in russia when people who "stick" the governement ... they are killed .

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March 02, 2015, 07:13:00 PM
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Remember just before the murder he said he had proof that Russia was sending troops to Ukraine. That is how you get shot in Russia. You tell the truth.

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Remember just before the murder he said he had proof that Russia was sending troops to Ukraine. That is how you get shot in Russia. You tell the truth.

No, I don't remember. He made relatively little noise while alive, having discredited himself by plundering Russia during the 90s. Please give reference. My impression of him is that he was not stupid. If he indeed had some damning evidence, he would have ensured himself by standard practice that in case he dies, everything becomes publicised.

Oh, and there is nothing suspicious about that Ukrainian girl, who comes the day before the murder, lures him onto a deserted bridge, and then doesn't see anyone shooting Nemcov, and remains alive herself, when in such cases those who are close by are killed as well as per the practice from the 90s. Nothing to think here, move along...

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March 02, 2015, 10:23:20 PM
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You know, even if Putin didn't directly have it out for the guy there are Putin supporters who would take out Putin's adversaries.  It's just good evidence of why there needs to be term limits.

Ride or die. The man owns the place, someone's got to keep it down. Either way he most probably knew something.

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Remember just before the murder he said he had proof that Russia was sending troops to Ukraine. That is how you get shot in Russia. You tell the truth.

I don't think that was the biggest reason why he was killed. What repercussions would Putin have to face if he Nemcov revealed this evidence? We all know he had troops sent to Ukraine.. but that doesn't matter, because he'll just continue to deny it, even if there's irrefutable evidence.

Besides that, if Putin cared about that proof so much, he wouldn't have had Nemcov killed because everyone would assume it was by his hands.
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I'm sure glad that such terrible things don't happen here in the U.S.  <cough - Michael Hastings - cough - Paul Wellstone - cough>


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March 03, 2015, 04:31:40 AM
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I've thought of and read other ideas as in, western intelligence has pulled the plug on this guy, rather than Putin to make him look bad. Like, who stands to gain in this when Putin had decent approval ratings coming in and China teaming up with them on things? Could be Mossad or MI6, something to think about I guess. Wink
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