[ANN] Sfards:SF100, the first 28nm Dual-Mode Miner is accepting pre-order now

[mastertrader777]

Woah!

Not really a miner, but wouldn't mind picking one of these up.

[Meech]

Seems like roll out is moving closer but still at a snails pace.  Which is good since their previous devices were somewhat stable at release.  Just anxious for some renewed blood in the mix again. 

[philipma1957]

Seems like roll out is moving closer but still at a snails pace.  Which is good since their previous devices were somewhat stable at release.  Just anxious for some renewed blood in the mix again. 

It has been boring only one piece of gear reviewed in the last 60 -90 days.  Sidehack's usb stick

[Dr Charles]

Seems like roll out is moving closer but still at a snails pace.  Which is good since their previous devices were somewhat stable at release.  Just anxious for some renewed blood in the mix again. 

It has been boring only one piece of gear reviewed in the last 60 -90 days.  Sidehack's usb stick

Right? I am dying for some new hardware to hit the market.... of course as long as it is still semi-obtainable by the "average joe"

[jstefanop]

Example:

BTC:
sudo ./minerd -a sha256d -o stratum+tcp://POOL_URL -u USER -p PASSWORD -d /dev/ttyUSBx -f 600

LTC
sudo ./minerd -o stratum+tcp://POOL_URL -u USER -p PASSWORD -d /dev/ttyUSBx -f 600

So just like the original gridseeds you will be running two separate instances of the mining software (one for BTC and one for LTC). Each can be tuned individually. Like J4bberwock said; it shouldn't be long before someone adds support to cgminer.

No one ever managed (AFAIK) to get separate instances of cgminer to run both BTC and LTC at the same time with the original gridseeds. You could only run cgminer for BTC and then had to run cpuminer for LTC when dual mining. Trying to run cgminer with gridseed scrypt support at the same time as cgminer with gridseed sha256 support would not work. The second instance of cgminer would see the port as already in use (I think...it's been a while).

One instance of cgminer utilizing both SHA256 and scrypt would be ideal but something tells me we wont see that unless Sfards changed the way the miners are accessed. There was some talk of it being worked on by third parties (with the original gridseeds) but nothing came of it.

Huh, hopefully they will implement driver into cgminer and bfgminer as soon as possible since the original minerd is a rather ancient piece of software ...

I wouldn't count on it. They will most likely only release what is already available and count on others to fill in the gaps like they did with the original gridseeds.

Not sure how the original grid seeds were engineered, but these have completely separated power buses and two com channels one for BTC cores and one for LTC...its one chip but everything is chained completely separate.

The final hardware on these will have two separate USB to serial ports, so it should be no issue configuring two seprate instances of cgminer/bfgminer...one to point to the BTC coms and one pointing to LTC coms.

[philipma1957]

Example:

BTC:
sudo ./minerd -a sha256d -o stratum+tcp://POOL_URL -u USER -p PASSWORD -d /dev/ttyUSBx -f 600

LTC
sudo ./minerd -o stratum+tcp://POOL_URL -u USER -p PASSWORD -d /dev/ttyUSBx -f 600

So just like the original gridseeds you will be running two separate instances of the mining software (one for BTC and one for LTC). Each can be tuned individually. Like J4bberwock said; it shouldn't be long before someone adds support to cgminer.

No one ever managed (AFAIK) to get separate instances of cgminer to run both BTC and LTC at the same time with the original gridseeds. You could only run cgminer for BTC and then had to run cpuminer for LTC when dual mining. Trying to run cgminer with gridseed scrypt support at the same time as cgminer with gridseed sha256 support would not work. The second instance of cgminer would see the port as already in use (I think...it's been a while).

One instance of cgminer utilizing both SHA256 and scrypt would be ideal but something tells me we wont see that unless Sfards changed the way the miners are accessed. There was some talk of it being worked on by third parties (with the original gridseeds) but nothing came of it.

Huh, hopefully they will implement driver into cgminer and bfgminer as soon as possible since the original minerd is a rather ancient piece of software ...

I wouldn't count on it. They will most likely only release what is already available and count on others to fill in the gaps like they did with the original gridseeds.

Not sure how the original grid seeds were engineered, but these have completely separated power buses and two com channels one for BTC cores and one for LTC...its one chip but everything is chained completely separate.

The final hardware on these will have two separate USB to serial ports, so it should be no issue configuring two seprate instances of cgminer/bfgminer...one to point to the BTC coms and one pointing to LTC coms.

Welcome news.  I really don't want these to be an either piece of gear. I do prefer they mine both coins at the same time.

Do you plan on two chip miners for your sales?

Best regards Phil

[toptek]

Example:

BTC:
sudo ./minerd -a sha256d -o stratum+tcp://POOL_URL -u USER -p PASSWORD -d /dev/ttyUSBx -f 600

LTC
sudo ./minerd -o stratum+tcp://POOL_URL -u USER -p PASSWORD -d /dev/ttyUSBx -f 600

So just like the original gridseeds you will be running two separate instances of the mining software (one for BTC and one for LTC). Each can be tuned individually. Like J4bberwock said; it shouldn't be long before someone adds support to cgminer.

No one ever managed (AFAIK) to get separate instances of cgminer to run both BTC and LTC at the same time with the original gridseeds. You could only run cgminer for BTC and then had to run cpuminer for LTC when dual mining. Trying to run cgminer with gridseed scrypt support at the same time as cgminer with gridseed sha256 support would not work. The second instance of cgminer would see the port as already in use (I think...it's been a while).

One instance of cgminer utilizing both SHA256 and scrypt would be ideal but something tells me we wont see that unless Sfards changed the way the miners are accessed. There was some talk of it being worked on by third parties (with the original gridseeds) but nothing came of it.

Huh, hopefully they will implement driver into cgminer and bfgminer as soon as possible since the original minerd is a rather ancient piece of software ...

I wouldn't count on it. They will most likely only release what is already available and count on others to fill in the gaps like they did with the original gridseeds.

Not sure how the original grid seeds were engineered, but these have completely separated power buses and two com channels one for BTC cores and one for LTC...its one chip but everything is chained completely separate.

The final hardware on these will have two separate USB to serial ports, so it should be no issue configuring two seprate instances of cgminer/bfgminer...one to point to the BTC coms and one pointing to LTC coms.

Welcome news.  I really don't want these to be an either piece of gear. I do prefer they mine both coins at the same time.

Do you plan on two chip miners for your sales?

Best regards Phil

 That's why i want one or two but may be out of what I'm willing to pay, the MH really is not that great to me for what it uses in power, the SHA256 part to me is . I really expected the Script part to be higher more like 60 MH not OC . if you can OC both parts of the miner with no issue the best you will OC the Script to is maybe 70 to 95, if your lucky and not burn it up . i used one of the 80 chip blades for a while and got a nice deal on one even made back what I put into it and sold it for all most 200 on Ebay last OCT.I did try to run both the sha256 and Script miner and dual mine but it got hotter then i what i was willing to mode to for cooling so i run it in Script mode.


I got a feeling is it going to be very loud .

[Xircom]

Last words from Simon (Hashra). Yesterday I got an e-mail from him since im waiting for a rather big shipment of scrypt miners. 4000 mhash to be exact. They start shipping out net week. Image for PI is ready as well. It has been a long wait for these monsters. But if they perform well… Goodby Sfard and welcome Hashra.
Something new is coming as well but I can't tell what it is,  but it sounds interesting.

[kenshirothefist]

Are these SF100 meant to be fully standalone miners (plug into Ethernet) or like USB devices, connected to external controllers (similar to Avalons)?

[Luke-Jr]

But there will probably be implementations in CGminer and/or bfgminer as soon as the hardware is shipping.

Who will be providing/maintaining the code?
Nobody has contacted me so far.

[mastertrader777]

I got contacted, they told me I have to order 100 or more.

They didn't tell me price yet.

Will keep you all updated.

Cheers,

MasterTrader777

[Searing]

I got contacted, they told me I have to order 100 or more.

They didn't tell me price yet.

Will keep you all updated.

Cheers,

MasterTrader777

someone said i think further back in this thread it was $1,129usd  per unit (if i remember right) in that you can buy a used 1.7th sp20 from spondoolies on ebay for like 450 w/shipping
and get a 50mh old gaw war machine for probably for say 200 (was 150 but LTC shot up) ...even at the higher elec costs you get it in less then a week shipped via paypal payment
600 bucks on your door step in the week again a lot more elec priced for the used above stuff but still in hand and mining (before LTC halving as an example) so maybe a wash
in actuality all said and done


and then the halving say for LTC in 50 days or so ...that means if you mine LTC the scrypt action drops to around a 23mh pow scrypt miner or so after that if you mine LTC

so its a big hoot if what the guy said was correct on the price quoted and remember that is the 100 bulk price hell it is probably 1,200 usd w/o the bulk discount if that applies

anyway it ain't worth getting the ebay units NOW  it is a $$$ loss vs buying LTC or whatever vs getting the above in 6 weeks so like most of us here I'll pass (again assuming the price quoted by the previous poster was correct)

trying to give sfards the benefit of the doubt here ...so they can announce it as a 500 usd unit but seems doubtful...even that it would be a toy at best imho you'd likely
never ROI

as stated before these 'units' if they sell any are just to show the flag for 'bulk chip sales' in the future in china and also imho for their primary use
in their 'at cost' for equipment defacto large pow scrypt data hall ....(hey its what you do now ...keep the majority for yourself)

the old "look we have a product" (see the proof...want some bulk data chip sales hint hint)

hopefully we are all dead wrong but from past asic crypto prices on stuff I doubt it

[thefix]

I got contacted, they told me I have to order 100 or more.

They didn't tell me price yet.

Will keep you all updated.

Cheers,

MasterTrader777

someone said i think further back in this thread it was $1,129usd  per unit (if i remember right) in that you can buy a used 1.7th sp20 from spondoolies on ebay for like 450 w/shipping
and get a 50mh old gaw war machine for probably for say 200 (was 150 but LTC shot up) ...even at the higher elec costs you get it in less then a week shipped via paypal payment
600 bucks on your door step in the week again a lot more elec priced for the used above stuff but still in hand and mining (before LTC halving as an example) so maybe a wash
in actuality all said and done


and then the halving say for LTC in 50 days or so ...that means if you mine LTC the scrypt action drops to around a 23mh pow scrypt miner or so after that if you mine LTC

so its a big hoot if what the guy said was correct on the price quoted and remember that is the 100 bulk price hell it is probably 1,200 usd w/o the bulk discount if that applies

anyway it ain't worth getting the ebay units NOW  it is a $$$ loss vs buying LTC or whatever vs getting the above in 6 weeks so like most of us here I'll pass (again assuming the price quoted by the previous poster was correct)

trying to give sfards the benefit of the doubt here ...so they can announce it as a 500 usd unit but seems doubtful...even that it would be a toy at best imho you'd likely
never ROI

as stated before these 'units' if they sell any are just to show the flag for 'bulk chip sales' in the future in china and also imho for their primary use
in their 'at cost' for equipment defacto large pow scrypt data hall ....(hey its what you do now ...keep the majority for yourself)

the old "look we have a product" (see the proof...want some bulk data chip sales hint hint)

hopefully we are all dead wrong but from past asic crypto prices on stuff I doubt it

Your best bet is to let someone else take the hit and grab one on ebay once they realize they wont give a ROI

[Moebius327]

$1,129usd is too high for me.

[philipma1957]

I got contacted, they told me I have to order 100 or more.

They didn't tell me price yet.

Will keep you all updated.

Cheers,

MasterTrader777

someone said i think further back in this thread it was $1,129usd  per unit (if i remember right) in that you can buy a used 1.7th sp20 from spondoolies on ebay for like 450 w/shipping
and get a 50mh old gaw war machine for probably for say 200 (was 150 but LTC shot up) ...even at the higher elec costs you get it in less then a week shipped via paypal payment
600 bucks on your door step in the week again a lot more elec priced for the used above stuff but still in hand and mining (before LTC halving as an example) so maybe a wash
in actuality all said and done


and then the halving say for LTC in 50 days or so ...that means if you mine LTC the scrypt action drops to around a 23mh pow scrypt miner or so after that if you mine LTC

so its a big hoot if what the guy said was correct on the price quoted and remember that is the 100 bulk price hell it is probably 1,200 usd w/o the bulk discount if that applies

anyway it ain't worth getting the ebay units NOW  it is a $$$ loss vs buying LTC or whatever vs getting the above in 6 weeks so like most of us here I'll pass (again assuming the price quoted by the previous poster was correct)

trying to give sfards the benefit of the doubt here ...so they can announce it as a 500 usd unit but seems doubtful...even that it would be a toy at best imho you'd likely
never ROI

as stated before these 'units' if they sell any are just to show the flag for 'bulk chip sales' in the future in china and also imho for their primary use
in their 'at cost' for equipment defacto large pow scrypt data hall ....(hey its what you do now ...keep the majority for yourself)

the old "look we have a product" (see the proof...want some bulk data chip sales hint hint)

hopefully we are all dead wrong but from past asic crypto prices on stuff I doubt it

Your best bet is to let someone else take the hit and grab one on ebay once they realize they wont give a ROI

yes by design I believe these will be sold in a manner only a real risk taker  would order them.  Already we are too deep into the LTC cycle ½ ing is under 2 months.

A risk taker would want to go in early on this.  Frankly if you are bullish on LTC  buy 1000 usd worth of them.

[anamichii]

MOQ is 100 
so it's industrial dual mode miner, not home miner 

[Searing]

MOQ is 100 
so it's industrial dual mode miner, not home miner 

does not matter anyway at those specs at the (we think is correct from previous posts) $1,129 usd price for 1.7TH and 47mh scrypt
it does not work as an industrial dual mode miner either (probably worse at least as a home miner you could justify it as a 'toy')

just saying . again imho they will make their money not on these miners but their own defacto as the norm these days ..giant
IPO funded data hall/farm with their at cost chips

and maybe later sell bulk chips to others to also make equip and their data hall versions of such

the units they announced are again imho just to get the word out to show the flag they will imho move very few if any

not that I know squat ..but assuming the above posted on here price above is correct.....that is my view

[mavericklm]

in the actual market it's possible to see a price of 1499$ 

[Searing]

in the actual market it's possible to see a price of 1499$  

yep the price we heard could very well be the MUST BUY AT THE  100 unit price...SHEESH! Individual units they probably will use that price! ack!

(funny hairless primate monkeys that we all are....they will likely sell out
....we all are just loads and loads of confused 'primate' fun!  

[jiannis78]

1 units  $1,129 ?