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December 03, 2016, 01:45:08 AM
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Bullshit like this make me lose faith in cryptocurrency and wonders, crytocurrency is trust with and by the people. So why trust the people when they can be in the same category as the banks or centralized systems. Stupid right ?
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December 03, 2016, 01:50:32 AM
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As the Crypto soap opera world turns... Keep churning... and trading.  Cheesy

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December 03, 2016, 02:02:42 AM
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Quoting Gregg from Slack
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So, here's the roadmap: with a negotiated settlement that basically matches the budget i've laid out, together with a governance structure for Synereo, there are negotiations for a 7 - 8 figure additional investment

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This gets us to the finish line for delivering the tech in a reasonable time frame

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More empty promises.

Exactly.  Greg is full of shit.  Fuck Greg.  Don't give the rat bastard any money.  Cut off Ed's funding for LIvelyGig too.  "LivelyGig" what a stupid name anyway.  Ed took our money and betrayed us too.  AMP holders and Synereo LTD equity investor's money should be spent on ACTUALLY building a decentralized social network and maximizing our returns, not on other peoples' bullshit especially when they declare that they have ZERO interest in our financial well-being.  I'm certainly glad that Dor already knows this and will do everything in his power to cut Greg out.  What the hell is Greg going to do?  Throw another bitch fit for three and a half hours?  I certainly won't be watching it, and I hope Dor never holds another conversation with the sack of shit again.

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December 03, 2016, 02:13:14 AM
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Have you ever paid $$$$ for something and received another thing? If the company was unable to deliver what they announced, you have the right to a refund.

If the original purpose of the 2nd fundraising will not be delivered, as per documentation provided, all those investors should have the right to a refund.

I myself have claimed numerous times that a drop in price is no reason for a refund. This is market risk. However, if the original purpose will (unfortunately) not be aimed from start, this is time to think about giving those resources back to people who trusted that project, which is no longer on the table.

Why don't you go ask Greg for refund since it is Greg who clearly wanted to leave Synereo and doesn't want AMP holders to be the main beneficiaries of his vaporware RChain, but wants us all to fund his ass.  Why don't you broach the subject with him the next time he states that "AMPs will be one of many different currencies on RChain".  He's having one of his goddamn Hangout sessions with his druggie buddy and his other bitches this coming Sunday at 9:30AM PST.  Go ask the lying sack of shit.  I want to see what type of bullshit response he gives you.

Because I did not fund Greg! Impossible! It was Synereo. Greg doesn't even have the ability to withdraw those bitcoins (and I am not saying he should!)

It was and has always been Synereo who promised and got funded, as per documentation provided. All those investors should have the right to a refund if the purpose is no longer to be aimed, regardless of whose fault it is.

Even today Greg declares that he's a "co-founder" with Dor, and admits that he wanted to raise money via BTTF and by selling AMPs to fund his RChain project.  Now that the money has been raised, he starts another separate hangout session and slack channel, declares for three and a half hours that he can't work with anyone on the team, and is now trying to blackmail all of us to fund his project which he admits that he doesn't want AMP holders to have any exclusivity in for any amount of time and doesn't want us to be the main beneficiaries.  Who the goddamn hell does he think he is?

Just because one of the founders has a mental breakdown live on air and decides he want to betray all of his supporters doesn't mean that the other members of the organization can't deliver.  If you watch the video where Greg undergoes mental collapse, you'll realize that he has ZERO support from the devs and everyone is just trying to walk on eggshells around him.  Greg is out now.  You heard from Dor himself that there will be a new CTO.  Synereo will continue and flourish especially now that it has 4.7M in funding.  Greg is the one that caused all this, and Greg is the one who should personally reimburse investors, because he is the one backing out of his responsibilities and promises to all of us.

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December 03, 2016, 02:54:56 AM
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What a bloody mess. Really a disappointment for a project with so much potential. I think part of the fear in the market is related to this unusual model of distribution. That's crypto, centralization does not fit here. Whose idea was the multiple ICOs?

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December 03, 2016, 03:04:00 AM
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With 4.7 million this project is far from dead, but hopefully these devs stop menstruating so that they can get back to business.  If this was any other business, these assholes would be shit canned.  Make me some goddamn money with these cheap amps.
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December 03, 2016, 03:56:31 AM
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Where is silicon valley ? Where is multi-world computer ? Where is wallet ?

No greg = No RChain = No Synereo

Question remains : Did Rchain even existed in the first place, most likely it was just theoric thought lol


now u can cut the ethereum bullshit like of dumb world computer that will never work and focus on doing ur primary goal which was social network...a little sanity is still possible.

anyway, release dates so far investors are fucked

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December 03, 2016, 05:08:55 AM
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No greg = No RChain = No Synereo

Well, that's a bunch of shit.  Greg never thought up the idea of Synereo or the attention economy.  Greg never delivered anything but empty bullshit promises.  All that Synereo has lost is dead weight and one big pain in the ass.  Synereo has a lot of life left in it, and AMPs at this price are an absolute steal.

Greg is a two-faced little bitch.  One minute he claims that he's for open source code and the next minute he's claiming that everything is his.  Guess what Greg... you don't own a goddamn thing.  Everything, including your code that doesn't even work, is OPEN SOURCE.  You don't have claim to anything!  Fuck off.  We're all sick and tired of your little games and your fucking whiny ass bullshit.  Go lie to someone else and try to procure funding for your shitty RChain vaporware, because nobody here is going to give you a fucking dime.  Why the hell should we fund you?  You don't give a flying shit about us!  Let's be honest... NOBODY is going to fund you after the shit you pulled here.  In the rat's ass chance, you actually create anything of value... pfff... yeah right, who the hell I'm I kidding?  Do you know what the fuck would happen then?  We're going to take your fucking code, because it is open source, and incorporate it into Synereo with AMPs being the exclusive currency.  Nobody fucking needs your bitch ass and whiny ass bullshit, and NOBODY FUCKING HAS TO PAY YOU A GODDAMN MOTHERFUCKING DIME BITCH.  GET THE FUCK OUT!

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December 03, 2016, 05:24:36 AM
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Here's the biggest tell about who gives a shit about your AMPs, Synereo LTD equity investment, and "the community".  It's Dor who is in here talking with everyone and holding this thing together.  Where the fuck is Greg?  That's right... he threw his little bitch fit and stormed out.  Greg's a goddamn lying sack of shit and after he caused the AMP price to drop and tries to hold us hostage for $2M USD, "minimum" as he puts it, has the fucking audacity to claim he's doing this for us.  FUCK YOU GREG!  GO FUCKING KILL YOURSELF!

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December 03, 2016, 07:17:15 AM
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This is spectacle. For the purpose to redeem for a small price all the AMP's. Sells for 33K, bought for the 5k. Jewish business.
Between price of 14k and 6k amount of coins for sale remains unchanged. This price of manipulation, as well as before crowdsale.
Not only do they have all the buyers for idiots, so they want to leave them with nothing. As is commonplace for Israel.

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If their reputation is important enough sacrificing a part of of the funds raised to restore the price to the level 33K. < $400k!!! Instead, they would kill the project and take all raised money.
PUMP & DUMP. And RUN AWAY  Angry

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December 03, 2016, 07:44:31 AM
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Having failed to deliver a functional Special-K framework after all this time, IMO Greg is hardly in a position of force even if he poses as if it was the case. I'm calling it bluff. Why are people even listening to him at all? No one is irreplaceable. In any normal company he'd have been fired for lack of performance, not to mention putting the company's reputation in jeopardy by putting on the public place internal disputes and acting like a total jerk slinging mud publicly to the company's CEO. Sorry but I really don't see how he gets to walk away with half of investors money and create his own company with it.

I'm also puzzled about why would Synereo would want to use R-chain and finds itself in a unidirectional relationship where it would be entirely dependant on Greg's good will and effective (so far unproven) ability to actually deliver on his promise this time around on time and budget.

With the kind of money Greg is asking, why not go directly with a real blockchain company? I'm sure companies like Consensys, Cryptonomex or Eris would be very happy to take the challenge, and they can even hire Greg if they think they would be able to manage him. Plus Synereo would get to keep the intellectual property of the framework it contracted them to develop.

And even going fully Greg's (alleged) vision of "giving the technology to the world", a new framework and entity don't even make sense. Greg has been working with the Ethereum Foundation on Casper. Casper is all about scalability. If Synereo is to turn philantropic and spend its investor money on furthering technology for the common good, then the right thing to do is to donate the money to the Ethereum Fundation and have them add the features we need in Casper / Ethereum 2.0 or even create a completely new fork of Ethereum with functional capabilities. I'm sure Vitalik would be glad to oblige. And unlike Greg, the Ethereum Fundation has a track record of delivering on its promises. Hell, they even manage to work with Greg!

Dor, don't rush a deal with Greg. He is bluffing. With USD 4M+ in hand, you have many more options than him.
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December 03, 2016, 07:45:44 AM
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How much money did greg steal? Why you guys curse him so harshly? I don't know the story, please tell me, ty

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December 03, 2016, 07:51:07 AM
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Even today Greg declares that he's a "co-founder" with Dor, and admits that he wanted to raise money via BTTF and by selling AMPs to fund his RChain project.  Now that the money has been raised, he starts another separate hangout session and slack channel, declares for three and a half hours that he can't work with anyone on the team, and is now trying to blackmail all of us to fund his project which he admits that he doesn't want AMP holders to have any exclusivity in for any amount of time and doesn't want us to be the main beneficiaries.  Who the goddamn hell does he think he is?

Just because one of the founders has a mental breakdown live on air and decides he want to betray all of his supporters doesn't mean that the other members of the organization can't deliver.  If you watch the video where Greg undergoes mental collapse, you'll realize that he has ZERO support from the devs and everyone is just trying to walk on eggshells around him.  Greg is out now.  You heard from Dor himself that there will be a new CTO.  Synereo will continue and flourish especially now that it has 4.7M in funding.  Greg is the one that caused all this, and Greg is the one who should personally reimburse investors, because he is the one backing out of his responsibilities and promises to all of us.

I totally agree with you.

He's very strong verbally ( so is Dor by the way, but he plays it differently ! ) and puts team members on the spot with questions like "Did I deliver working tech or not ?" which is unfair of course because a little bit of working tech doesn't make a working platform or software that's actually useful.

You can't be a little bit pregnant. You either ship a product or not.

Greg is making it sound like there's no Synereo without him, which is crazy. He hasn't delivered anything. Here's what he did in my eyes ( i'll leave out the recent mess )

- Presented Synereo very well in interviews for podcasts and youtube shows. Very inspiring.
- Designed and explained super cool and advanced architecture like Rchain and SpecialK
- Not deliver on any of the above plans Smiley

So other than a great thinker and speaker ( which definitely counts for something ) we lost nothing except a HUGE money drain.

Now we have a big reputation hit because of all the drama, but this is crypto and we're kinda used to it. Synereo has strong devs other than Greg in the team already - Henry for example strikes me as very capable and level headed - and plenty of alternative chains to build on. Synereo has a lot of money now and like I said before : a LOT of room to grow. And as soon as there's an strong alpha release, AMP price will reah new all time highs and everyone will have forgotten about the current drama.

The sooner Greg leaves the better. His ego is just going to keep inflating the longer he stands on his soapbox. In fact I think we run a serious danger that his ego gets so large, so massive, that it collapses on itself and rips a hole in the fabric of space/time and we all get sucked into it Cheesy Spaghettification !!!

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December 03, 2016, 07:55:37 AM
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How much money did greg steal? Why you guys curse him so harshly? I don't know the story, please tell me, ty

He didn't steal anything, but he's asking for millions to be paid for "his" Rchain that he half developed while working as the CTO of Synereo.
He does not have access to any AMPs until he actually finishes a product though, so I consider this renegotiating a deal before a product is delivered.

Nobody has to be afraid 4 million AMPs get dumped by Greg because he doesn't have them.

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December 03, 2016, 08:08:58 AM
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Greedy bastard dor is, you support him? He offers greg so little and mean fund, without any share of 5 million ico fund? why greg is here, I vote for him, crack synereo!!!CTO has nothing on usd and amp, what do you work for? Only poor salary? LMAO. Just leave here.

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December 03, 2016, 08:11:03 AM
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I want this shit to get cleared soon and Synereo should start to deliver its promises soon else it will be dead. I am still holding my AMPS.

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December 03, 2016, 08:14:09 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ounpypfd8c

Can you believe this jackass?  Greg held another one of his shitty hangouts today where he proceeded to draft his demands of Synereo AMP holders and Synereo LTD equity investors.  This guy doesn't even have working code.  What the hell is he smoking?  Greg is conspiring with people who aren't even AMP holders or Synereo LTD equity investors.  The people in Greg's "community" include the following:

Christian Peirson - the druggie communist who can't even record a fucking video session right.  Since this idiot recorded the whole thing in 360p, you can barely make out Greg's written demands.  At least you can hear what they are saying in this one.  On a side note, we all bought this moron a laptop and paid him $40 an hour (because Greg wanted him to be fairly compensated for his incompetence) and now he's helping Greg blackmail us.  Hey Christian, enjoy being raided by the DEA asshole.  I know your address.  I'm sick of you scum making the streets unsafe.  You fucked up retard, because you admitted to using an illegal substance multiple times and uploaded it to Youtube.  Marijuana is illegal in Chambersburg, PA dumbfuck.

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Ed Eykholt - the "CEO" of a shitty ass startup known as "LivelyGig".  He owns ZERO AMPs or Synereo LTD equity.  How is he part of OUR community?  Who is he to make demands on us?  You stated that you didn't want to work with anyone from Synereo either, so get lost bitch.  Nobody gives a shit about what you think or want.

Ian Bloom - Another person who holds ZERO AMPs or Synereo LTD equity.  Constantly rants about disenfranchising AMP holders and equity investors.  Pushed for Greg to leave Synereo.  Get lost loser.

Jim Whitescarver - Jim might hold a very small amount of AMPs from bounties, but didn't invest in either crowdsale and doesn't hold any Synereo LTD equity.

This is Greg's "community".  These people are NOT part of our community.  These people do NOT represent us.  They do NOT represent AMP holders.  They do NOT represent Synereo LTD equity investors.  They are NOT part of the Synereo Team.  Greg is trying to coup Synereo for his own benefit and blackmail us all to the tune of $2M USD PLUS HALF OF ALL THE AMPS!

Hey Greg, you want some "community input and governance".  Let me tell you something asshole.  I own a very large amount of AMPs.  Here's my fucking funding proposal for you:

YOU GET FUCKING NOTHING BITCH! DO YOU FUCKING HEAR THE GODDAMN FUCKING WORDS COMING OUT OF MY MOUTH! YOU CAN SIT THERE ALL DAY, DAY AFTER DAY, AND WRITE UP YOUR LITTLE LISTS OF DEMANDS, BUT GUESS WHAT... YOU AREN'T GOING TO GET A FUCKING DIME OUT OF ANY OF US.  YOU ADMIT YOU'RE A SYNEREO "CO-FOUNDER".  YOUR JOB IS TO BE WORKING ON SYNEREO AND NOT TRYING TO UNDERMINE EVERYONE WHO SUPPORTED YOU.  YOU WANT US TO GIVE YOU ADDITIONAL MONEY, $2M USD PLUS HALF OF ALL THE AMPS, AFTER THE SHIT YOU PULLED?  IT'S NOT GOING TO FUCKING HAPPEN.  IT'S NOT GOING TO FUCKING HAPPEN IN A MILLION FUCKING YEARS.  IT'S NEVER GOING TO FUCKING HAPPEN BITCH.  DEAL WITH IT!

YOU CAN TAKE YOUR FUCKING PROPOSALS, ROLL THEM UP, AND JAM THEM UP YOUR ASSHOLE.  FUCK OFF GREG.


All the people I listed above were compensated from funds, WE, the crowdsale participants and equity investors, gave to them.  Dor paid them under the promise that they would help us create a decentralized, open source, and free speech social network.  They are now trying to blackmail us.  Even during the negotiations, Christian would kick/ban and mute people from the discussion who didn't agree with Greg.  What type of fucking shit is that?  This is suppose to be an effort to create a FREE SPEECH decentralized social network.  Greg is blackmailing us all and trying to silence the opposition.

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December 03, 2016, 08:24:24 AM
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wow it looks serious, id better stay out of this confusing coin for now

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December 03, 2016, 08:25:04 AM
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I think the crowdwale was too high and the way to rectiify that for everyone including those who didn;t use the traditional crowdsale options such as through Poloniex, is by burning AMPS
The price has been reduced by 75%m So the Amp supply should be reduced aswell .
Its only fair for investors.

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December 03, 2016, 08:47:40 AM
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<snip>, read above

You missed the mark with that last post, D.E.

Ed did a lot of great work at Synereo. Mediated between Greg and Dor, and build a lot.
Ian and Jim are both respected community members in with their work on community governance, bounties, philosophising... also Jim's one of the kindest, most patient people out there.
Christian can smoke whatever he pleases as far as I'm concerned, ( I advise against crack, however ;-)  but  some decorum and professional behaviour would go a LONG way. He's proven to me that he's not yet mature enough for the roles he's assuming. To much juvenile drama.

Sadly what we see here is the community is being divided in the Dor camp and the Greg camp. No need to call everyone names that side with Greg. They're mostly good people.

But yeah the proposal is a joke Smiley

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