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December 02, 2016, 05:41:29 PM
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Was wondering, I haven't researched these new programming languages being mentioned as the key to Synereo's success, but they
raise a question immediately, especially if they are still being developed.

Can one really trust a new language to create working solutions when that language itself has never produced a real world product before?
Can't existing languages just create new objects and functions to do what you need to do?

I guess the new language is to be used to program the DApp not the core of synereo.
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December 02, 2016, 05:54:35 PM
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I invite everyone here to join us on slack.synereo.com to follow progress more closely.

May also help tip the balance towards sanity and away from the true believers.


I'm there but the chat that is most live I don't think is a place for outsiders to ask questions or make helpful suggestions.
- Yes, it's too noisy for me as well.
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Can one really trust a new language to create working solutions when that language itself has never produced a real world product before?
Can't existing languages just create new objects and functions to do what you need to do?

It's not so much a new language as just a different logic. The promise is that formal semantics make the programs much less buggy and allow more rigorous approaches for verification.
To my understanding this is similar to Hoon, page 16: http://media.urbit.org/whitepaper.pdf (which could incidentally be appropriated).
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December 02, 2016, 06:02:58 PM
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Have you ever paid $$$$ for something and received another thing? If the company was unable to deliver what they announced, you have the right to a refund.

If the original purpose of the 2nd fundraising will not be delivered, as per documentation provided, all those investors should have the right to a refund.

I myself have claimed numerous times that a drop in price is no reason for a refund. This is market risk. However, if the original purpose will (unfortunately) not be aimed from start, this is time to think about giving those resources back to people who trusted that project, which is no longer on the table.

Why don't you go ask Greg for refund since it is Greg who clearly wanted to leave Synereo and doesn't want AMP holders to be the main beneficiaries of his vaporware RChain, but wants us all to fund his ass.  Why don't you broach the subject with him the next time he states that "AMPs will be one of many different currencies on RChain".  He's having one of his goddamn Hangout sessions with his druggie buddy and his other bitches this coming Sunday at 9:30AM PST.  Go ask the lying sack of shit.  I want to see what type of bullshit response he gives you.

Because I did not fund Greg! Impossible! It was Synereo. Greg doesn't even have the ability to withdraw those bitcoins (and I am not saying he should!)

It was and has always been Synereo who promised and got funded, as per documentation provided. All those investors should have the right to a refund if the purpose is no longer to be aimed, regardless of whose fault it is.

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December 02, 2016, 06:17:59 PM
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https://zoom.us/j/2522161381


Meeting atm

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December 02, 2016, 06:20:46 PM
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I invite everyone here to join us on slack.synereo.com to follow progress more closely.

May also help tip the balance towards sanity and away from the true believers.


I'm there but the chat that is most live I don't think is a place for outsiders to ask questions or make helpful suggestions.
- Yes, it's too noisy for me as well.
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Can one really trust a new language to create working solutions when that language itself has never produced a real world product before?
Can't existing languages just create new objects and functions to do what you need to do?

It's not so much a new language as just a different logic. The promise is that formal semantics make the programs much less buggy and allow more rigorous approaches for verification.
To my understanding this is similar to Hoon, page 16: http://media.urbit.org/whitepaper.pdf (which could incidentally be appropriated).

Different logic implies different operators hence a different compiler to create the applications.  Time tested languages have a history of
working.  Something with a different logic seems to put things at step one, or at least back a few steps.  

There are a lot of initiatives trying to do something similar.  Ethereum seems like the most similar technology.  I wonder how the languages/technologies compare to what LBRY are trying to do, or many others.   Could it be possible that a synergy would work?  Do groups really know what the other are doing, and what in the purpose of science, are inventions that could be open source used by others?







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December 02, 2016, 07:34:57 PM
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It looks dire but not all is lost
(...)
Moving forward I expect a feasibility analysis of various options, e.g.:

Option A: Run the Social Network on Ethereum/IPFS // low risk
This. I hope the Synereo team will seriously take this route into consideration. 
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December 02, 2016, 08:17:22 PM
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Hope this project will rise n shine again!

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December 02, 2016, 09:02:40 PM
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Perhaps consider offering anonymint a large reward or even a paid consultancy position to aid this project. He has been right  about almost all designs he has reviewed so far. I hear he is working on something similar. But since amp has the funds perhaps he could help if you gave him a reason too. Perhaps nice % of amps could help. Who else do they have in mind if greg did leave the project?

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December 02, 2016, 09:22:46 PM
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I just created another thread here with this opening post:

Synereo, RChain, Ethereum

"Thought it would be good to get another thread on this current situation with Synereo, who are having some disputes about the nature of their technology and it's readiness.  The problem seems to be that RChain is currently not functional.  Not sure if this is rushing the timeline, or even why something like Ethereum would not work.  What would Rchain have that Ethereum does not?"




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December 02, 2016, 09:45:52 PM
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Quoting Gregg from Slack
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So, here's the roadmap: with a negotiated settlement that basically matches the budget i've laid out, together with a governance structure for Synereo, there are negotiations for a 7 - 8 figure additional investment

[9:41] 
This gets us to the finish line for delivering the tech in a reasonable time frame

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December 02, 2016, 09:55:54 PM
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More empty promises.

Synereo: liberating the Internet from abusive business models.

Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart, he dreams himself your master.
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December 02, 2016, 10:16:33 PM
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More empty promises.
Can you join Slack, Synereo is in a state of emergency....

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December 02, 2016, 10:23:28 PM
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Perhaps consider offering anonymint a large reward or even a paid consultancy position to aid this project. He has been right  about almost all designs he has reviewed so far. I hear he is working on something similar. But since amp has the funds perhaps he could help if you gave him a reason too. Perhaps nice % of amps could help. Who else do they have in mind if greg did leave the project?

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anonymint would be a great choice.

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December 02, 2016, 10:37:39 PM
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This is what you call AMP burning.
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December 02, 2016, 10:56:38 PM
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Hope this project will rise n shine again!

Face of young Hitler standing up in slowly rolling Studebaker with this citation in place will preserve the relevance of a message. How havent you failed? Being unconsciously delusional in assessing the validity of a system or ecosystem you invested in provokes posts like you saw above: newbies blame coin associates for not delivering the expected functionality. You wont get pumped only because of RCHAIN. You simply wont. Its so fucking bogus that Im running away with my knees hitting potbelly.
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December 02, 2016, 11:32:14 PM
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Don't worry just keep churning.

What's the worst that could happen?  Roll Eyes

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December 02, 2016, 11:45:35 PM
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so, after vcash... amp is done too?
it's a legit question, all i've seen is a bunch of empty promises without nothing to hold the investors... so much money wasted, such a great idea...

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December 03, 2016, 12:03:58 AM
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so, after vcash... amp is done too?
it's a legit question, all i've seen is a bunch of empty promises without nothing to hold the investors... so much money wasted, such a great idea...

I am with you on that. Dont get it, so much money invested for what? To get rekt?
Still I dont believe the project is lost but it needs a lot of time to recover this BS.
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December 03, 2016, 12:15:09 AM
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Damn, Greg, are you such an asshole  Grin that you take all the keys with yourself? I need it  sell all of its 15 000 ampers. Go to hell, greedy man.
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December 03, 2016, 01:43:59 AM
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so, after vcash... amp is done too?
it's a legit question, all i've seen is a bunch of empty promises without nothing to hold the investors... so much money wasted, such a great idea...

I am with you on that. Dont get it, so much money invested for what? To get rekt?
Still I dont believe the project is lost but it needs a lot of time to recover this BS.

I am quite annoyed that I lost a great deal on what was basically a sure thing. There are a couple key problems I noticed. After the sale, they cut back on marketing right away, huge mistake! After that, I am mostly seeing some ego problems and people that think they understand more about crypto markets and what traders want than they really do. It is also pretty much unprecedented for one of the founders to attack the other in public, how does that help anything? I would have advised against that, and I would have sold much earlier if I thought that level of foolishness was even possible by intelligent people! 

It also might not be the smartest idea to ask for more money for funding when the price has crashed and investors are pissed. Synereo lasted years on 120k, and they can't last with 4.7 million USD? Nonsense, that is bullshit and everyone that has been working in crypto knows it, we are not fools. Plenty are willing to be paid in AMPs and even hold for the future. I can't see how this team can stay together as they were, and I would not invest a satoshi with a founder that is foolish enough to FUD his own project in public in order to preserve his reputation, which actually harms it. Not to mention the absurd delusion of thinking the investments were all about him, and not the entire team, the amplifiers, and idea itself.

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