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December 27, 2015, 03:08:08 PM
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We're looking into it, yeah. Something that will realize the benefits of a blockchain while also relying on the trust created in the social network. A sort of hybrid between the standard Bitcoin approach and the Gateway-based Ripple approach, relying both on a chain of custody (timestamped ledger) as well as on Synereo reputation. This will allow this neo-blockchain to scale in throughput without issue and without encumbering nodes with huge, global ledgers.

We'll migrate all existing AMPs to the new tech, of course, if/when this happens.

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December 31, 2015, 01:14:14 PM
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A new story with some updates about where we're at on allcoinsnews:

http://allcoinsnews.com/2015/12/31/decentralized-social-platform-synereo-plans-pre-sale-on-bnktothefuture/

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January 03, 2016, 08:07:56 PM
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Coin Market Cap has updated their AMP page with more stats and Synereo now shows up on the main page as well.
http://coinmarketcap.com/assets/synereo/#charts

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Dump it to zero.  Just say no.

Great, another information gatekeeper media network straight out of Tel Aviv from the "Israeli Air Force computer unit" LOL.  People need to start boycotting these ethnocentric, racial supremacist cult, Zionist mafias that are constantly forming monopolies in media, banking, and politics using ethnic nepotism.  If they're not attempting to financially enslave you, they're attempting to brainwash society with a constant stream of far leftist Marxism.  Either that or trying to manipulate your politicians to force you to fight their wars and die in the middle east somewhere while they play tennis.

Just say no.  Short it to 0.

Look at the imagery they use.  Looks like it was cooked up in some Tel Aviv board meeting where they said, "Hey guys, the female goy are not quite vapid and mindless enough with their 70 IQ and huge sense of entitlement yet.  How can we socially engineer them to make them even more repulsive?  I know, let's design an "attention economy" and tell them they're all princesses and deserve to be worshipped on our social media platform, catering to their primitive instincts of asinine vanity.  Ovey!"



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January 04, 2016, 07:01:14 PM
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New post on the blog:
http://blog.synereo.com/2016/01/04/Synereo-Update/

This update offers a deep delve into the mathematical underpinnings of the new Proof of Stake protocol that will eventually replace Ethereum's current PoW blockchain, as well as an altogether new proposal for the creation of novel type of blockchain.

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Interesting idea, but without PoW you lose a lot of this forum's interest.

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Interesting idea, but without PoW you lose a lot of this forum's interest.

Wow bro!  It must be really cool being a super rich PoW miner, but for the rest of us PoW mining hasn't been profitable since 2013.

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We're live on the weekly hangout right now:
https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYcoGSEusUlQX-ebHfG7_UnwCXhictJUm98S67UjvqVzWPkafQ?hl=en&authuser=1

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When will the first beta version come out?

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The first public release is about a month+ away, if things go smoothly.

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We're live!
Participate: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/hoaevent/AP36tYesI0_IfEkxfAv-AlBcWwV5GooUHh6MBcK-0H1Mlws9epRM3Q?hl=en&authuser=1
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January 20, 2016, 04:25:23 PM
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As per our community's recommendation, we're going to start posting the entire weekly update here.
Read it all with pics and links on our blog.
http://blog.synereo.com/2016/01/20/Synereo-Update/


Update Summary

Special guest Dina Supino, UX and Product designer now working with Synereo.

This week brings updates about:

Work on our Docker container / one-click installation

LivelyGig development update

Work on Casper, the Proof-of-Stake protocol

New collaborations with Backfeed, working on reputation and collaboration protocols, and

weWOWwe, a Chinese sports-related social network starting to migrate functionality to rely on Synereo.

Contents in Brief
Watch the full Hangout
0036 - Intro by Greg
0335 - Dina introduces herself
0470 - What’s design? A presentation by Dina
0777 - Design challenges for open source projects
1189 - Response of Greg
1629 - Dor about cooperation with Backfeed and weWOWwe
1918 - Working as a community
2506 - Community takes up work
2636 - Code of the protocol
2916 - Largest AMP bounty so far given for Docker work
3050 - LivelyGig update by Ed
3196 - Casper update
3399 - Allan’s involvement
3629 - Thanks

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0036 - Intro by Greg
Special guest Dina Supino. Greg and Dor have been working closely with her on the design of the new UI and user experience of Synereo.

0335 - Dina introduces herself
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I’m a UX designer, 10 years experience. My latest project was MS Azure. After that we’ve been travelling the world for the last couple of years. It’s really been going around and looking at cultures and learning about how people think in all of these different countries. Most recently we’ve just got a house that we’re going to move in Tuesday after the hang out at the base of the mountain here in New Zealand.

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0470 - What’s design? A presentation by Dina
If you wanna help with Visual/Graphic Design, … come forward. That’s always great! First we need product design guidelines, the typography for making this entire product. Kind of making things beautiful and clean, and that work.

UI design is the process of creating user interfaces that balance technical functionality and visual elements. We need UI wireframes, prototypes, storyboards. Basically working through kind of the underpinnings of a product.

Content design goes back to the persona of the very specific users who are reaching out to us and keeping that communication channel on their way link.

Content writing. Content writers will define rules for a voice. So this product is based on its brand and its users. It’s friendly and very lightly technical.

Information architecture creates a navigational tree and kind of a higher level of order for the whole product.

User experience. Designers need to kind of have a little bit of all of the aforementioned aspects but they’re combining into a higher level look. It’s necessary to understand how to visualize advanced concepts, like what you would see in psychology and sociology.

Design thinking is about making the design implementation-free. Keeping yourself free from the technology.

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0777 - Challenges for open source
People have a great idea based on tech and the whole experience is based on that. It’s difficult for design when the underpinnings already have been completely set. If you first focus on the goals then all sorts of different solutions come up. Then you can find the right one that really flows perfectly for the user. And that’s why design needs to do that that process, out in front of the development input.

The nice thing is that we have a pretty engaged community that is pretty happy to give feedback.

If you have examples of novel UX made by open source project please put them down in the slack channel #design.

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There have been some critics on Synereo’s open source based and community based approach. But (Christopher Alexander) [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Timeless_Way_of_Building], (A Pattern Language, A Timeless Way of Building, The Nature of Order) has a different view on this. A blend of course is always going to work a bit better. Laying down some fundamentals that are pretty strong and then letting the community build upon that.

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Community feedback helps with the user testing issue. Feedback is OK but it is informative for a designer, otherwise work gets never done.
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You have a designers paradox if feedback is constantly flowing instead of feedback that is ordered into purposed based points along the process. image

Dina says that it’s very important to define a product vision and she will cover it next week.

1189 - Greg points to his slides about Reactive Media
They are a language of concepts, capabilities and capacities, that people can utilise to rapidly put together user experiences but that also directly maps to the technology and the math. Recently we talked about channels “@” and labels “#”. And that this could be used for the monitoring of the nodes. Since this is a decentralised network, users have to stand up their own nodes. You as administrator need that your node talks to you in a meaningful way. The social feed mechanism of Synereo can handle such things. You can also use it for monitoring the economic situation, i.e. your wallet that is associated with transactions.

So these principles have to translate into a comprehensible experience for the user.

We have to find out what the group thinks about what to value, how they want to value it and what it means for individual reputation. And that has to be part of the user experience as well.

1629 - Dor about cooperation with Backfeed and weWOWwe
We are cooperating with Backfeed, founder is Matan Field, who was the founder of the rideshare company La’Zooz and Primavera De Filippi, she was involved with Ethereum. Their aim is to create a reputation system for centerless coordination. There are a lot of similarities. They have a few nice pilots with chess games, where the entire community decides on the best move to make. Until now they have been improving the protocols, but they rely on a centralised entity that keeps track of the reputation of the members. That’s not what Synereo wants. In Synereo, each user has a limited and subjective view of the network, and that’s enough to form our attention and reputation economy. The network topology simply changes to accommodate the relationship of the different agents based on their behaviors, and so no outside/central entity is needed.

We have been talking about the basic assumptions we make, about the design of the system and what it should be able to do. And it looks that they want to use Synereo’s technology to implement their protocols. And it seems like we’re going to merge our efforts.

1918 - Working as a community
Also with Coala, that hosts the blockchain workshop series and Vlad of Ethereum we’re talking about reputation systems. We are organising a satellite workshop in New York in April 2016 and we hope to have Backfeed, Livelygig, Synereo there and groups that are interested in the “internet of things” because we believe that things also should enjoy a reputation. Synereo is trying to jumpstart community effort around reputation systems and smart contracts, in order to investigate the concerns involved.

One of our investors is involved in a Chinese social network around the subject of sports. Uploading videos about soccer matches, analysis and so on. We’re talking about including the reputation and reward system into this and to slowly think about moving the content to the distributed paradigm. The company wants then the users to be able to redeem their tokens for badges, t-shirts, meetings with star soccer players, and later on services on the greater Synereo network once there’s a possibility to exchange their tokens for AMPs and other currencies. This shows nicely how you can create a network of networks in terms of exchange of reputation or monetary value.

Another side project is a company that is in social networks and that is interested in the technology of Synereo. China is probably one of the most important markets for decentralisation technology. It’s really critical there.

2506 - Community takes up work
Dory (@nodes, @007) did some great work on the Docker problem. He was able to resolve the RabbitMQ interaction between two Docker servers. This is very exciting and that enables us to then aid data storage through Mongo to the doctor image.

The venue protocol. This makes it harder to do discovery in the network. If you know only the people that you’re already connected with, how do you find new people to talk to? There’s a need for people to find each other with respect to your network. That gives a place for a kind of broker in between. Livelygig needs this of course to match talented people with the demand for work.

2636 - Code of the protocol


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The protocol is in fact a few pages of code. A part that configures the behaviour, a part the sets the definitions, and a part that executes the protocol. In the configuration you can define what behaviour is launched when a node is launched. For example the feature “You need to be introduced in order to talk to this person.” In the current interface you can drop a person icon onto another person icon. A message “Do you want to introduce these two people to each other?” pops up. And then it gives you the opportunity to send out a little introduction notice to each of them and then they are invited to connect to each other.

This approach of defining protocols gives a significant acceleration and in addition there are all kinds of advantages with respect to a formal verification and correctness of the protocol, service discovery, etc..

2916 - Largest AMP bounty so far given for Docker work


Dor expresses his appreciation for Dory. He’s not only one of Synereo’s largest investors, a very passionate member in the community, but he also unblocked the creation of the Docker Image, with respect to the RabbitMQ. With this achievement it becomes very easy to set up a node for the Synereo network. So he’s rewarded with a bounty of 50,000 AMPs, worth close to 500$ (highest bounty until now).

So If you’re a developer in Scala, have DevOps skills, or have other IT-related knowledge, you could earn also AMPs. Talk to us!
3050 - LivelyGig update by Ed
The number of protocols we use for Livelygig is relatively small if compared with the complexity of the application. We’ve been working a lot on the user interface. Some of it is on the technological architecture that is needed, for example on Scala React. And we’ve been building up various pop-ups. We are focused on getting an end to end story that we can demo.

3196 - Casper update
There’s been progress in converting the betting-cycle stuff into π-calculus interpretation. We do this because then we can work finally with SpecialK. There’s growing consensus between Aaron Fisher, Vlad (Ethereum) and myself. You get a uniform treatment of network partition events as well as standard betting cycle behaviours. So the economic and security analysis come into a single frame, which is extremely powerful. We’ve also done a code review of a proof-of-concept that was set up by Vitalik. It raised some interesting questions, because Casper takes a stance that’s pretty much the opposite of Industry wisdom. Which is cool, because a lot of revolutionary protocols have done this also.

3399 - Allan’s involvement
He’s very interested in what SpecialK can do as a platform and I have some specific experience that Livelygig can leverage. Allan refers to his company “Answer2” started in 2013. It’s basically turning questions and answers into a contest. The project was shot down because the term sheets of the funding were not alright. But the idea is still valid. Allan was introduced to Ed by an attorney who knows blockchain really well. And he has additional experience with the launch of Safe.cash, a white label commissioned based blockchain based payment system for banks to create their own Paypal services and offer it to their clients. It uses dollars directly, not an alt-coin and the keys don’t sit on the technology layer. See also

He hopes to bring that experience to SpecialK and LivelyGig in terms of launching a platform that people can use to build distributed apps with very little effort and very little code and focus on what their apps are really supposed to be doing.

3629 - Thanks
Please read the Open questions for pitch deck](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xdKayitmM60PCBRCmekiDc5XOcN62LIN-a9MvFQQRDs/edit?usp=sharing)

That’s all for this week!


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We're live on the community hangout:

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Anyone else having problems with their AMPs stuck on omniwallet? I have BTC there to pay the tx fee, but it does not send the AMP out. Gets stuck.
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Anyone else having problems with their AMPs stuck on omniwallet? I have BTC there to pay the tx fee, but it does not send the AMP out. Gets stuck.

Are you using Mozilla Firefox? Happened to me too. Worked out with Chrome.
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Anyone else having problems with their AMPs stuck on omniwallet? I have BTC there to pay the tx fee, but it does not send the AMP out. Gets stuck.

Are you using Mozilla Firefox? Happened to me too. Worked out with Chrome.

Thanks! It worked with Chrome.
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If you are interested in Synereo's latest happenings, you can watch our Community Hangout broadcasting LIVE:

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When will the beta version come out?Is there a rough timeline?

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When will the beta version come out?Is there a rough timeline?

The first public release is about a month+ away, if things go smoothly.

Two weeks have passed. That means a month or less if nothing has changed since then.

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When will the beta version come out?Is there a rough timeline?

The first public release is about a month+ away, if things go smoothly.

Two weeks have passed. That means a month or less if nothing has changed since then.



There won't be any usable software anytime soon. The only person on the Synereo team with any skills is working for Ethereum right now.



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