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June 18, 2016, 06:01:52 PM
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How come we do not hear much about Synereo? Looks like a cool project, but very little noise out of their camp.

What noise should we be making?  (and where?)

If the same signal is repeated over and over, it becomes spam for those already in the community.

In general, this is a decentralized movement, which is fueled by grass-roots, and bottom-up sustainable growth.

We are near to introducing an Alpha release, which will lead to improvements, and then a Beta.  Consider that the Beta is still not the "whole enchilada".  So in this sense, we do not want to create unrealistic expectations, and "hype" for hype's sake.

We will try to make appropriate levels of noise when we have actual things to report!

Also, we're working quite transparently, with weekly live, public hangouts giving all the latest info.  This removes some of the traditional spikes of interest, and has been producing consistent growth in attention being paid to us.


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June 18, 2016, 06:15:00 PM
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"Despite being a major ETH and DAO holder, a part of me does not believe a rollback should be performed. We wanted “unstoppable applications”? We got them... "

http://blog.synereo.com/2016/06/17/the-dao-attack/

Synereo: liberating the Internet from abusive business models.

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June 18, 2016, 06:15:09 PM
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Only Synereo's formally-verified smart contracts could have prevented the DAO attack.

http://cointelegraph.com/news/human-factor-behind-the-dao-attack-ethereum-rollback-not-option

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June 18, 2016, 07:40:21 PM
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Can someone from Synereo explain more in detail how they are a better DAO than the DAO. Well The DAO is screwed but still some explaination from the team would be awesome.

A very closely related entity, called a "Decentralized Collaborative Organization" has been offered up as an alternative.

See here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4XRZk39tbU

One of the important aspects of Synereo's ecosystem is that it contains distributed reputation.

But the main reason is the technically better code behind it.  You can get some idea of that from this recent quote:

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“Synereo offers a social model; one that integrates measures of compassion in its code. Our reputation mechanism assures trust in people is still required, while tying the control assigned to them in formally-verified smart contracts – making that trust much harder to abuse.”
http://cointelegraph.com/news/human-factor-behind-the-dao-attack-ethereum-rollback-not-option

Formally verified protocols are the equivalent to mathematics in physics.  Creative experimentalists can discover new phenomena, and equally creative engineers can design tools & machines to take advantage of them.  But it is the mathematical proofs that drive new theories to be accepted as "predictably correct".  Programmers can likewise create code that 'works' for feature A, while causing unpredicted problems in B, and C.  Or, they can work from fundamental, computationally correct methods, and produce features, as well as secondary consequences, that are known in advance.




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June 18, 2016, 07:56:57 PM
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looks cool, I want join in.


It is extremely difficult to join. This is a 100% premined coin. The only way in is to make deals with them in the background or to market buy the tiny amount of coins for sale on the open market.


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June 18, 2016, 07:58:45 PM
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Only Synereo's formally-verified smart contracts could have prevented the DAO attack.

http://cointelegraph.com/news/human-factor-behind-the-dao-attack-ethereum-rollback-not-option

Could you expand on this a little more. How exactly does Synereo's formally-verified smart contracts prevent the DAO attack?
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June 18, 2016, 10:48:03 PM
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Only Synereo's formally-verified smart contracts could have prevented the DAO attack.

http://cointelegraph.com/news/human-factor-behind-the-dao-attack-ethereum-rollback-not-option

Could you expand on this a little more. How exactly does Synereo's formally-verified smart contracts prevent the DAO attack?


Nothing exists yet so there is nothing to expand on. The idea they are pursuing is to use functional programming to build the server. Functional programming is how math works. This allows you to program mathematical "laws" with computers. This is what people mean when they say "formally verified" smart contracts.



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June 19, 2016, 12:22:09 PM
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http://fintechist.com/synereo-human-element-decentralized-technology/


Formally Verified Smart Contracts
The concept of a smart contract seems to be entwined with blockchain technology these days. But unlike what happened to The DAO – with their flawed smart contract technology – Synereo is doing things differently. Social contracts, as this technology is called, allow for stating and enforcing an information flow policy. Moreover, the usage of properties allows agents to ensure the information flow fits the goals of the group. More details as to how this technology works can be found in the Synereo whitepaper.

If The DAO had used proper smart contract technology – such as the one provided by Synereo – the recent attack could have been prevented. At the same time, this technology is still in the very early stages. There is still a lot of education to be done on blockchain and smart contracts; that much is certain.


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June 19, 2016, 02:53:20 PM
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looks cool, I want join in.

It is extremely difficult to join. This is a 100% premined coin. The only way in is to make deals with them in the background or to market buy the tiny amount of coins for sale on the open market.

Difficult to join?  It sounds like you mean "speculate".  Yes, right now, most of the people who have AMPs are the ones who were brave and took a little extra risk last year in the initial release.  That's fair, and a sound economic principle.  No one is selling them now; the casual crypto buyers have sold theirs, and left people who understand Synereo's potential for great value owning the rest.

Anyway, you can join our slack channel, our live weekly hangout, as well as 2 fireside chats per week by the community.  We have a publicly open blog, forum, and web page.  You can participate in setting up test Nodes.  There's a Movement behind this community, and it began for each of us in the past, and Synereo brings hope back to the table for a variety of reasons.

You can pretty much dive right in and join at any level you want to right now.

In a month, there will be new investment opportunities. 
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We have to be patient, that's all.

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June 20, 2016, 07:49:36 AM
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http://criptonoticias.com/synereo-plataforma-segura-inteligente-dao/

Los recientes sucesos relacionados con el ataque perpetrado al Proyecto DAO que se ejecuta en la plataforma de contratos inteligentes de Ethereum han acaparado casi toda la atención del mundo de las criptomonedas, y no es un detalle menor considerando que este proyecto posee más del 16% de la emisión de Ethers hasta el momento. Mientras se evalúan las distintas posibilidades para solventar la situación actual, muchos consideran la fundación de un nuevo DAO más seguro y confiable. Y dentro de esta corriente emerge Synereo, una plataforma robusta que combina los contratos inteligentes con las políticas establecidas por cada grupo de usuarios que hace vida dentro de ella.

Synereo cuenta con un sólido mecanismo de contratos inteligentes probado en batalla y que no se basa en el simple consenso global. En esta plataforma, los contratos sociales permiten a los agentes sentar estatutos y hacer cumplir sus políticas de flujo de información. Las declaraciones de políticas se realizan de forma independiente y autónoma; sin embargo, pueden ser ensambladas para definir y determinar la política de flujo de información de un colectivo. Las políticas pueden ser revisadas para efectos tales como “este grupo se entera de este evento antes de que este otro suceda”, o “todo el mundo eventualmente es notificado con un mensaje importante”.

Utilizado las propiedades de la plataforma, los agentes pueden comprobar si las políticas de flujo de información combinadas encajan con sus objetivos y metas con el fin de decidir cuándo y cómo participar en el intercambio de información/moneda con otros agentes y colectivos. Entre las muchas ventajas, esto permite el montaje justo a tiempo de servicios sin un director o coordinador global.

Esta combinación de contratos inteligentes con políticas establecidas por los usuarios o agentes de un determinado colectivo, son de mucha utilidad para construir Organizaciones Autonómas Descentralizadas que se desempeñen de mejor forma ante eventos que atentan contra la seguridad del colectivo. Tal como ha sucedido recientemente con el ataque ejecutado al Proyecto DAO que desarrolla en la blockchain de Ethereum.
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June 20, 2016, 02:51:47 PM
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Could you expand on this a little more. How exactly does Synereo's formally-verified smart contracts prevent the DAO attack?

Nothing exists yet so there is nothing to expand on. The idea they are pursuing is to use functional programming to build the server. Functional programming is how math works. This allows you to program mathematical "laws" with computers. This is what people mean when they say "formally verified" smart contracts.


@Ethertrader - does RavenBitcoins' comment above answer your question?


@fartbag - it seems like I've answered this one for you before, but ..

The formal methodology exists throughout the whole Synereo tech stack (this is why we must build our own blockchain - so that we get the same high standards).



The foundation of this has been in commercial use for over 4 years.  KDVB w/Special-K is a distributed database, that replaces central servers.
 The content distribution system works directly from there.

You are right about what functional programming is.  You missed what it means: the formal groundwork is already done.  That is, the math already works - and that is straightforward to expand upon, including testing and verification.  With this in hand, you are not limited to "trial & error" of lessor methods being used throughout the blockchain/crypto community.

There is a lot of work to be done though, and testing will uncover the need for revisions.  However, this is all well past the "idea" phase!

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June 20, 2016, 06:20:37 PM
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http://www.coinspeaker.com/2016/06/20/synereo-ceo-dor-konforty-human-element-dao-attack/

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June 21, 2016, 06:21:12 AM
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The DAO was flawed from the start. I do agree that some human intervention needs to be included and the basis of our networks until we can gradually learn and deploy such DAO's.
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June 22, 2016, 10:23:19 AM
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I have been reading that Synereo is a potential alternative to The DAO. I read the response above, but I would like to hear a more dumbed down version. I thought Synereo was a social media site, or network. How are you a DAO?
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June 22, 2016, 04:12:32 PM
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Any updates on when your crowdfunding campaign is live on BnkToTheFuture.com?

Mid July  Smiley

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June 22, 2016, 04:29:39 PM
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I have been reading that Synereo is a potential alternative to The DAO. I read the response above, but I would like to hear a more dumbed down version. I thought Synereo was a social media site, or network. How are you a DAO?

You can check out the Synereo Tech Stack for an idea: (posted above)
(http://i.imgur.com/dObdDpK.png)


The social network Distributed Application (DApp) is the first "in house" project of Synereo.

It's new (open source) software to power an alternative to the existing internet protocols; a way to transfer, store, and distribute information, both on-, and off-blockchain, in a P2P basis (decentralized and distributed).

It also has its own cryptocurrency, which will power an attention economy, and the distributed ledger can make secure & transparent records.  So a DAO, or DCO (Distributed Collaborative Organization) can be easily built as an App that works on this platform, and in an emergent social ecosphere.

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June 22, 2016, 04:48:15 PM
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Hey, help us spread the word!



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Monday, June 27 @ 2:00 PM EDT with Douglas Rushkoff.



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June 22, 2016, 06:19:38 PM
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We're LIVE - come and join us ( https://zoom.us/j/2522161381 ) in the weekly hangout!



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June 23, 2016, 09:49:36 AM
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Hey, help us spread the word!



Tune into the Synereo Community live broadcasts:

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This is big time! Nice work team. I am seeing a lot of good things coming out now.
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June 23, 2016, 10:06:27 AM
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Hey, help us spread the word!



Tune into the Synereo Community live broadcasts:

- https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCU5CBbxAeFYnodf32w3ahOQ
- https://www.livecoding.tv/synereo/

Jump in LIVE: https://zoom.us/j/2522161381
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This is big time! Nice work team. I am seeing a lot of good things coming out now.

Yes it's quite interesting and a lot of material to discover.

there is always a light at the end of the tunnel...
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