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Homosexuality is not genetic. It is caused by being molested. I have several close gay friends who have confirmed this, including a licensed psychologist in Chicago named Michael Harvey. Gays' first sexual experience is involuntary and painful, but they ultimately enjoy the sexual release, as well as the control their attractiveness has over their male abusers. They enjoy the experiences that come after the first.

Men are not born gay, they are broken. This is why gay men, on average, are better looking than straight men. They are more attractive to their abusers, and are therefore more likely to be molested. And yes, they also inherit the desire to rape young boys, and break more boys into their gay lifestyle. All of them. This is why they lie about their past, and the true nature of homosexuality. They know that if the true nature of their sexuality were known, they would not be accepted in society.

I know to many this may sound insane. Sometimes the truth is a hard pill to swallow. It is time to end the cycle of shame and abuse, and protect our boys from these sexual predators.

It is unfortunate that many people believe that being molested or raped leads to being homosexual or transsexual. The reality is that most gays, lesbians, and transsexuals have never been molested, raped or abused. Those of us who have are not this way because of what happened to us.

I fucking agree 100%

I sympathize with your situation, but you are either lying or in denial. Best of luck coping with your severe mental illness.

This is by far the most stupid statement i ever read on this forum.
Congratulations!

Glad you've finally found the courage to come out of the closet. Congratulations.  :D

LOL whatever, fag!

ben carson said something like this in the context of prison rape and was ridiculed by the left, but it makes sense, this could also help explain why 30% of paedophiles are also homosexuals

That is a huge under-estimation. Crimes against boys are heavily under-reported, when compared to those against the girls. IMO, a majority of the sex crimes against children are committed against the boys. And since more than 98% of the perpetrators are male, you can assume how many of them are gay or bisexual.

Homosexualism is also one of the NWO plans to weaken humanity and family values to bring their brave new world
http://library.gayhomeland.org/0018/EN/EN_Overhauling_Straight.htm (http://library.gayhomeland.org/0018/EN/EN_Overhauling_Straight.htm)

Gays actually infest children to become gays by molesting them. That's one of the ways how homosexualism spreads.
By keeping children away from homosexuals we can save them from becoming infested.

 ::) mhmm

The late Corey Haim (the famous child actor from Lost Boys) was one of the victims to this phenomenon. According to his best friend Corey Feldman, Haim was sodomized by a "powerful" guy in the Hollywood, when he was 16 years old (at the sets of the film Lucas). Haim became a bisexual and drug addict, finally dying at the age of 38 from drug addiction.

I remember Feldman talking about that in several interviews - he wrote a book that goes into a lot of this but I've never read it. Supposedly from what he said, ol' Meathead - Rob Reiner - is the big pedophile he was talking about, remember Feldman was in Stand By Me and Reiner directed that film.

I remember seeing Lucas as a kid, never knew that. Just disgusting:


http://nypost.com/2013/10/19/the-childhood-hell-of-the-lost-boys/

I doubt it was Rob Reiner. From the hints given by Feldman, it seems to be a fellow actor, with whom Haim become very friendly during the shooting. Charlie Sheen's name has been cited very frequently regarding this. He was also a part of the Lucas cast. And at that time, he was pretty "powerful" and "influential", due to his father.

There're tons of homosexual animals in nature, are they all got molested? Don't think so.
I can't be spesific about how to be Homosexual, but I can say that easily; Homosexuals are the weakest part of the Evolution.

Good question: Yes, animals get molested.

Interesting theory. I dont think i have any gay friends (in my country they are still mostly hiding as they should) to ask them, but i guess OP could be somewhat right. In my opinion, molesting could be one of reasons but not only one. Some ppl simply are genetically screwed and some become gay from other reasons. I guess, most of them could be treated and cured if their genes are not to messed up.

There is no cure. That's why they're hiding. They are terrified of you finding out the truth. They should be.

Some of them even become homosexual or bisexual in order to earn a living. There are many strictly heterosexual porn actors who have acted in gay porn, since the salary is much higher than what they get doing hetero porn. Also, male sex workers, who are heterosexual in orientation might engage in sex with other males just to get some quick bucks.

Wow, I can't believe how stupid people can be here in the forum. I really find this offensive and of all places I didn't thought I'd find something like this in this kind of forum.

If you find the truth to be offensive, it's just because you have been brainwashed by western NWO mass media.

Which truth? The one that is being proposed by someone who doesn't has a solid basis on what kind of theory they are presenting? I am a part of the LGBT people and as far as I know, there is no such thing like this that ever happened to me and I'm pretty sure that is not the reason why I am me.
You guys should read the other articles around everywhere on the internet and you might pick up some much useful informations before you guys tell that homosexuality is some kind of mental illness caused by what you so called molesting. :D

Your ignorance is even louder and more obnoxious than you are. Homosexuality is caused by being molested. Everyone who isn't an absolute idiot understands this intuitively.

Fag.

This forum has free speech. Free speech includes speech that you may find offensive. No big deal. A place where you can not say what you want is not a community but a jail.

We do have free speech but I didn't expect that such thing will be posted in here and thus such ignorant people exist in this forum. Anyway, it's no biggie.


Funny how you says that I'm obnoxious and idiot and then right after you called me a fag. I don't think an educated person will say such thing. ;D

Just ignore the pussies. The Bitcointalk forum is not a place where political correctness is strictly enforced. If anyone is having any issue with that, then he can fuck off to some other place. Political correctness is not compatible with the bitcoin sector. We stand for free speech and freedom, and we will go to any length to make sure that it is maintained.

Back on topic: HIV and AIDS actually started from monkeys. It's very likely that some homosexuals, who usually practice very strange sexual behavior, had sex with
monkeys and that's how it started to spread.

Well, finally someone who see the things from other perspective! :)

I was having some gay experience, but unlike you, I wasn't able to research this field, because I don't like to be in gay present more then 1 min... sry :D

But what are you saying is actually true:
Men are not born gay, they are broken. This is why gay men, on average, are better looking than straight men.

But, the law of the nature saying that we are born as male and female and that's were the story ends. Everything else is related with the mind. When people start to experience this gay or lesbian feeling, they actually start to get confused.

I think that the main problem is GMO. This type of food and drink can really makes some bad mix in your hormones and the victims are usually those who are not born as a Alpha male!

The first transmission of HIV from monkeys (most probably gorillas) to humans occurred in Kinshasa, Belgian Congo in the 1920s. And no. It wasn't caused by the Congolese having sex with infected gorillas. Back then, the natives used to hunt gorillas for food. On one such occasion, the blood from a dying gorilla came in to contact with an open wound which was present in one of the native poachers. That's how it all started.

I should've worded my post better, from what I've heard from Feldman and others Rob Reiner is one of the biggest predators in Hollywood - as far as Charlie Sheen and the Lucas rape/molestation, that does totally make sense and it wouldn't surprise me at all. Wow... It is just all so dark and disturbing.

Well, Bad answer.
You're a fucking stupid.

i wonder that some/most of you people are actually able to read and write with that iq.

but on the other side you people earn your subsistence with sig campaigns here  :-\

It is genetic. I know girly guys from school. They were girlies from small age.

It's not just Rob Reiner and Charlie Sheen. These two are just the tip of the iceberg. Hollywood is a paradise for all sort of perverts, including pedophiles and gerontophiles. The mainstream media guys will never talk about this. The victims will also keep silent for most of the time. Feldman was an exception. And I don't know how he managed to stay alive despite saying all this.

No, I think that like every mental disease, you can catch it without having sequels from an unpleasant past. But that's interesting to investigate this illness because the best way to heal a disease is to prevent it.

Hollywood is teeming with pedophiles so it is surprising Feldman has only been blackballed and not met an unexpected death for speaking-out on such things. There is a show on ABC Family of all networks that has been mentioned on this forum before, The Fosters - it actually took the award for "Outstanding Achievement In Youth Programming" - and "programming" says it all...Those pushing this trash should be shot.



http://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2015/08/09/abc-family-show-that-featured-13-year-old-gay-kiss-wins-youth-programming-tca-award/

There is a damn good reason why the bible commands gays be killed.

I can't beleive that someone has actually opened that topic in 21st century

I don't agree with this. I am pretty sure bisexuality is more natural than homosexuality,
But I still cannot think of it as mental illness. Some people just choose to have sex with same gender just for pleasure.

That's not true. Homosexuality is just a mental desease, no different from schizophrenia or bipolar disorder, it can be treated and even cured. There are many experimental practices with significant history of success since the beginning of 20th century. Unfortunately, nobody is interested in providing the treatment services to these people... And even worse, they're proseciting scientists for any publications on that subject. Majority of establishment prefer to ignore this problem, pretending that it's just a variation of norm. I wonder why they aren't pretending that schizophrenia is a variation of norm.

Everybody should be provided with sufficient medical assistance. At least, some information about this disease should be made available to the general public. It's currently available only in the scientific research papers, but not everybody is able to understand scientific narrative. I think it's obvious that current situation is nothing but a blatant violation of fundamental human rights.

I doubt being gay is thru a molested thing, that is just stupid. If you someone falls in love the same gender as him/her that is just how you are and not thru moestation.
People who do porn also fuck there same gender is there job, so is not a molested.

Mate, do you really think that AIDS is coming from the monkeys-gorillas? :)

Here, this only a small peace of information that I have try to translate from the article I have in my PC:

Recently, a number of Americans were surprised by the spread of flammable videos, the rumors among them Dzhermeja Rev. Wright. Viewers listened to the priest who spoke about the US government created AIDS as a kind of genocide attack against the black population. soon, as usual, the media has condemned such a statement against the US government as a kind of "conspiracy theory". But is it really so ...?

Dzhermeja Wright in a period of his life he was the spiritual adviser to the current US president, Barack Obama. That in 1961, in the twenties of his life he interrupted college studies and then joined the Marines. After completion of the second year, reported the navies. There, soon became a cardiovascular technician. Later he became one of the managers in the medical team for the care of President Lyndon Johnson after his operation in 1966.

For his services to the team when he left in 1966, the White House awarded him three letters of praise. After leaving the service, Wright finished his last year of college and then became a monk and eventually became a pastor of a church.

For over two decades, more broadly written about "AIDS as an artificial creation and skillfully veiled genocidal program."

AIDS occurred in America in 1978, when scientists from the US government began to experimenting young, mostly white and healthy males from the gay population. They were chosen at the center of Manhattan, as part of experimental trials of vaccines against hepatitis B, which continued to spread in several cities until 1981, when an official epidemic occurred.
The foundations of the experiment disappeared in 1973, when The health project for gay men in Manhattan, has taken blood samples to test whether they are positive for hepatitis B in "New York City blood center".

The results were staggering. One out of every two samples were positive. In contrast, only 5% of the samples in "straight" men were positive.

The development of the Institute for therapeutic research "Merk" in West Point, Pennsylvania, the first crude experimental vaccine was tested on chimpanzees. The only animals susceptible to human blood, hepatitis B. Later, the vaccine was tested on a small group of retarded children.

Sry if you find some mistakes, but I try to translate the article from Macedonia to English. If you like the full article, feel free to tell me... :)

There are some deep insights here.

Here is the end of the article where we can find the logic questions about AIDS:

According to the latest statistics published on the Internet, about 20 million people worldwide died of AIDS, and 40 million are infected with the same disease. Most of them come from Africa. You do not need a lot to think about to realize that HIV has the most gay male population, and is transmitted through contaminated vaccines as part of hepatitis experiment. There are millions of white people in Africa.

1. If HIV was present for decades, why some scientists argue, that AIDS is primarily a disease of blacks, not the white man in Africa?
2. Why is AIDS in the US is first discovered among white gay men, but not among blacks?
3. Why the first cases of HIV were not observed among Americans of Asian origin or the Indians?
4. Why were not observed cases among women?
5. Why were also cases in the elderly, in people with chronic diseases?
6. Why did not exist "incubation period" for HIV in the United States?

The introduction of the HIV virus by hepatitis B was a deliberate attempt to liquidate the gay community, and to blame gay men for the spread of the disease in the general population because of their depravity and lifestyle of high risk.

The public is carefully hypnotized by the media, that only blacks, gays and afrikaskite green monkeys are responsible for causing AIDS. These politically "correct" scientifically "correct facts" are accepted by a large number of people, no questions asked.

Another CoIV people should die of HIV, in front of people to speak out against this genocide secret and obvious connection with eksprimentalnite vaccines and the introduction of a deadly virus in the "selective" population..?

So, what do you think now about the AIDS? :)

I have personally never met anyone who had AIDS that didn't deserve it.

Please stop lying and creating conspiracy theories.
HIV is caused by homosexual lifestyle.

It's not a matter of opinion, or something for scientists to argue.  If more black people in Africa have AIDS, it's probably because the majority of the African population is black.

But one major problem with the AIDS statistics for Africa is that they weren't doing AIDS tests.  They just wrote down "AIDS" for anyone with a runny nose or the flu, and then reported that 1 in 4 Africans has AIDS.  It's not true.

So the good news is that AIDS isn't being used to exterminate Africans.  Because Africans don't have as much AIDS as we've been told.






I've read that AIDS was originally called GRID, Gay-Related Immune Disease.  It was first associated with the openly-gay culture in places with significant groups of openly gay men, such as New York.  The majority of openly gay men at the time were white, probably in part because white people were the majority population in the U.S.

I think you are also aware that the majority of black men in the U.S. who have sexual relations with other men do not openly admit it.  So when medical researchers first went to the gay communities to find out about AIDS, they found a disproportionate number of white gays.





Before AIDS was discovered by doctors and scientists, people were dying from it and the cause of death would be listed as pneumonia or another illness.  Doctors didn't notice 50% of all Asian patients coming in with pneumonia, or 50% of all their Indian patients coming in with pneumonia.  If they had, they would have searched for some reason within the Asian or Indian communities which could have been causing it.  But it was gays that were noticed to have a new illness among their group, so they investigated gay people.  There were probably other people who had AIDS, but they weren't openly gay, so those people continued to die "of pneumonia" because there was nothing else to identify their illness as AIDS until the virus was isolated.





There was no blood test for AIDS.  It was, and still is, a primarily gay disease.  Lesbians do not typically transmit AIDS to each other, and women typically do not transmit AIDS to men.  Because when a man has sex with a woman, her blood or bodily fluid usually does not get into the man's bloodstream.

So if a woman gets AIDS, she will probably die without passing it on to anyone else.  But when a gay man gets AIDS, he is more likely to pass it on to multiple other gay men, and each of them are very likely to pass it on to others.  That's why it spread among gays instead of among straight people.

Most women who get AIDS were infected by bisexual men.  Transmission is more likely with anal sex, because there is damage and bleeding which allows the semen into the bloodstream.

There are places in Africa where "dry sex" is considered the cultural norm among some groups, and women will put herbs or toothpaste into their vaginas to dry themselves out.  Then the sex has more friction, but also results in more tearing of the vaginal tissue and a greater chance of AIDS transmission.  





Some of those cases certainly involved AIDS-infected blood transfusions.





I don't know what you mean, but there are at least 3 major strains of HIV.  One is more prevalent in the U.S., one is more prevalent in Africa, and one is more prevalent in Asia.  There is nothing unusual about that.  






No one has forced gay men to infect each other with AIDS.  They have known about AIDS for 30 years, and it's still being transmitted to new patients every day.  

No one has forced straight people to act differently to prevent themselves from getting AIDS.  If straight people acted like gay people, they would have just as much AIDS.  But it would spread more slowly, since men give it to women more than women give it to men.

Is it 100 times more likely for a gay person to get AIDS?  Or is it more than that?

It's not a conspiracy, it's just physics.  A torn anus lets the AIDS virus into the bloodstream more easily than a penis, and the vagina doesn't let it in easily unless the vagina is torn.  

And then the average gay person has over 10 times more sexual partners than the average straight person, compounding their already-increased risk.

How is the government responsible for that?  

Not necessary.

1) There were several waves of plague in europe.
2) Most of HIV strains are CCR5-tropic strains.

CCR5-D32 mutation increased the probability of survival for those who had this mutation. As the result of natural selection, share of CCR5-D32 in european gene pool has been increased. The same is correct for other "good" mutations, there are many varians of CCR5 gene.

Fortunately for europeans, these mutations are also making it more difficult for HIV to merge with cell. For example, if you have one copy of CCR5-D32 gene then HIV infection is developing much slower than with regular genome, and it can take ~20-30 years to show any symptoms of immunodeficiency. If you're lucky to have two copies of D32 variation of gene (~1% of white population), then you're nearly 100% resistant to infection by CCR5-tropic strains of HIV.

Nothing like these european epidemies of plague happened in Africa or America. As the result, gene pool of native population wasn't affected by natural selection, leaving them more vulnerable to CCR5-tropic strains of HIV.

No mystics, pure science.

Back to the topic:  multiple studies have found that gay men "have their first sexual experience" much younger than the average straight person.  And gays are more likely to have that first experience with an older partner.  

So if a boy is 9 years old, or 11 years old, and is anally penetrated by a 13-year-old, or a 15-year-old, or a 50-year-old, they are calling that a beautiful first love experience.  But of course it has nothing to do with love.



The truth is that being gay is similar to being fat.  There can be many contributing factors.  It's not healthy, it's disgusting to most people (even themselves), and most people agree that "nobody would choose to be that way".  Most fat people didn't decide to be fat, but they still choose the behaviors and habits every day that keep them fat.  

They feel that it's impossible for them to change their behaviors, because they have mental and emotional dysfunctions.

They use a biological function - eating (or sex) - as an emotional coping mechanism, which involves them abusing the natural biological function of their bodies.  

So yes, "if they just stopped eating so much, they would stop being fat."  Just like "if they stopped having gay sex, they would stop being gay."  But unless they learn healthy coping mechanisms, they would remain dysfunctional.

Of course, being fat doesn't strictly prevent people from reproducing within a monogamous relationship.  Being gay does prevent people from reproducing within a monogamous relationship, making a normal marriage and family impossible;  it's like being infertile.  But being fat does go a long way toward the same result, for many people.  

Like gay people, fat people don't want to follow the rules that everyone else follows.  They free themselves from certain responsibilities and step outside social norms.  Like most freedoms, this freedom from the burden of social duty is not often relinquished willingly.  Being fat isn't "just like being skinny, but fatter."  It usually means you don't care about being neat, clean, organized, and an entire list of things that go with it.  Fat people often give up on fitting in, and that has an effect on every area of their mentality.  They are outsiders, apart from mainstream society, and unwilling to take any steps towards joining.  



So that's how I see it, and now people will disagree using emotion instead of logic.  

If you want to show that I'm wrong, all you have to do is simply come up with some thoughts about homosexuality that don't apply to obesity:



"I've known him since he was 5 years old, and I could already tell he would be fat."

"He was born fat because he says so."

"Even as a child, he loved his mother's sausages and would eat 3 pounds a day.  Of course she encouraged him because she knew he was born fat and she loves him for who he is."

"The only reason fat people aren't happy is because you won't accept them."

"Being fat is an orientation.  Even if you lose weight, you're still fat in your mind if you were born fat."

"It's not about how much you actually eat and exercise.  It's about how much you prefer to eat and exercise.  That's why being fat can never be defined scientifically, or proven by studying someone.  It's only based on what people say about their own thoughts."

"He pretended to be skinny for a long time, but he finally admitted that he was born fat.  Then he got skinny again, so it turns out he wasn't born fat."

"If you don't like fat people, you're secretly fat yourself."

"Being fat isn't a choice.  Can't you see how different their bodies are?  That proves it's genetic."

"If being morbidly obese makes them happy, who are you to tell your children it's undesirable?"

"There's nothing wrong with weighing so much you can't get out of bed.  Only backwards inbred racist religious fools disagree."

"When they shove so much food down their orifice that it makes them puke, that is love.  It's just as noble and beautiful as your grandparents starting a family and being together every day for 60 years."

I don't think the average person that adds a rainbow filter to their facebook profile has any idea what kind of things these people do behind closed doors or in the company of other homosexuals. A close family member was part owner of a hair salon when I was growing up and had many gay friends, after years of being around them she sold her part in the business. The stories of what she witnessed at parties or was told in confidence by her friends over the years was mind-blowing, beyond warped...and from what she said, most of these people would tell her they weren't happy being gay and wished they were straight. I really could care less what people do behind closed doors and the whole lgbt population is in reality very small, but now that there is this push to "normalize" it and spread it to the masses - especially children - that pisses me off.

I've heard a lot of similar stories. 

How many adult gay men still live with their mothers?  How many of them sleep in the same bed with their mothers?

The answers you get will be different from people who actually know a lot of gay men. 

In our age of single mothers, women are used to being abandoned.  But there is sometimes one man she can depend on never to leave her - her son, as long as he doesn't meet a woman and get married. 

A lot of gay men couldn't be with a woman because they would feel like they were cheating on their own mom.



A famous example would be Anderson Cooper talking about which of his mom's boyfriends was better at licking his mother's vagina.

Another famous example would be Walt Whitman, whose poetry seems to draw a close connection between his mother and masturbation.

Another famous example would be Alexander McQueen, the fashion designer who killed himself the day before his mother's funeral.

Another famous example would be Barney Bubbles, the fashion designer who killed himself on his late mother's wedding anniversary.


For anyone who wasn't aware, there is plenty of reading.  Sometimes they admit that there is a positive correlation between a man being gay and having an unusually close relationship with his mother, but sometimes they pretend the causality is the other way around. 

This is true. I think you should ask to some socialists how they see that, this should make you laugh, and then you'll understand why they keep it secret. That's because on their Holy Human Rights, that's stated that no one can be discriminated. Also, when a huge proportion of people in medias are gay, that doesn't help :-\.

If HIV was present for decades, why some scientists argue, that AIDS is primarily a disease of blacks, not the white man in Africa?

It is very obviously that the first patients of AIDS where the black males in Africa, because it's logically that this race is the poorest in the whole world and the Government succeed to find a deadly biological weapon who will destroy them slowly.

Why is AIDS in the US is first discovered among white gay men, but not among blacks?

First they created the GMO and put in the food and know they killing their product. GMO is responsible from mixing the hormones in the human body, that's why we have some many gays and lesbians today!

Why the first cases of HIV were not observed among Americans of Asian origin or the Indians?

Because, there are 7 billions on this planet and we don't have enough resources for this number, so that's why it is time to start for destroying the poorest population.

Why were not observed cases among women?

You already give the answer of this question. :)

Why were also cases in the elderly, in people with chronic diseases?

I am not expert about this question... Sry. :)

Why did not exist "incubation period" for HIV in the United States?

That is a very interesting question... Why? ;)

i think its 50% by molester an 50% by himself

Sure, I respect you words, but let me ask you something: If we have virus is it logical that there is antivirus, right?

Here is the last study that I have read about AIDS:

Bees could hold the key to preventing HIV transmission. Researchers have discovered that bee venom kills the virus while leaving body cells unharmed, which could lead to an anti-HIV vaginal gel and other treatments.

Scientists at the Washington University School of Medicine in St. Louis found that melittin, a toxin found in bee venom, physically destroys the HIV virus, a breakthrough that could potentially lead to drugs that are immune to HIV resistance. The study was published Thursday in the journal Antiviral Therapy.

"Our hope is that in places where HIV is running rampant, people could use this as a preventative measure to stop the initial infection," Joshua Hood, one of the authors of the study, said in a statement.

So tell me, if already have the anti-virus here on planet Earth, then is it normal they know how to develop the virus?

I can't agree with this. I have gay friends and they were not molested  and were obviously gay during our childhood days.

If they were fat as children, does that mean they were born fat and that being fat is just as good as being fit?

There is even a phenomenon called bug-catching. Young gay males undergo recipient sex with gays who are HIV positive, in order to get themselves infected. Some of the mentally retarded homosexuals consider this the ultimate homo-erotic feeling. There are even websites and forums, which give a step-by-step instruction for younger homosexuals, in order to get themselves the HIV.

Sry, but I think you wrong...

I was having a few experience with gays and also I used to have a gay friend. We was friends for a couple of years. I didn't noticed that, but I have heard rumors about him and honestly I didn't want to believe until one day... We was watching a movie and he lied on the bed near to me. In that moment I have realize that the rumors were true and I leave immediately! :D

After that I start to analyse the situation and have realize that the gay are actually confused persons. They are influenced by the TV, Internet and most of all the GMO in our daily products. I was arguing with one guy who study chemistry and even he admitted that GMO can cause some problems with our hormones. By the law of the nature we are born as a male and female, it is simple! :)

+1

The connections of logic in some of the posts is very interesting indeed.

Everyone is a mixture of gay/straight. Nobody is truly gay or straight.  Even if the straightest of straight guys decided to have gay sex as a test and found out he did not like it he still isn't 100% straight beause life does not work like this. We dont have all nice neat social boxes/catergories we live in from birth to death.

Everyone in this thread is partly gay, example.... think of all the times you have appreciated another mans insights on life, in that moment you are enjoying the concept of man you gay bastard.   Example, the circle jerk that happened when Andreas Antonopoulus spoke at the canadian senate - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUNGFZDO8mM  That circle jerk over him and his presenation was perhaps warranted, his insights were excellent, is it partly gay to rave about him though?..... emmmmm yeah it is.  Dont go saying its not partly gay because you only wanted his brain and not his cock.

There are places where saying that could get you arrested for hate speech.

You're supposed to say that gays are born unable to enjoy the feeling of a vagina around their penis.  They can enjoy a man's mouth but not a woman's mouth. 

Even if a man married a woman, promised to stay with her until death, and ejaculated inside her for 20 years and got her pregnant 3 times - you're supposed to say he's a hero for abandoning his family and getting blowjobs from teenaged boys in alleys.  Because he was born that way, end of discussion.

I wonder why they won't inject some infected blood. This seems to be much simpler than infecting through ass.

According to them, it is not "erotic" enough. Now HIV is a manageable medical condition, thanks to the newer versions of the anti-retroviral drugs. 99% of the treatment cost is borne by the government, and therefore these guys don't have to worry about anything. Being HIV +ve is something like a status symbol among the gays. 

How brainwashed you can be?

" Everyone in this thread is partly gay, example.... think of all the times you have appreciated another mans insights on life, in that moment you are enjoying the concept of man you gay bastard. " Huh??? That's ridiculous and way beyond reaching, in what way does that make anyone "gay"...?

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YOU GANG OF STUPID THICK CUNTS.. :D :D :D :D
21ST CENTURY and you all talk shit..
people are gay because they are GET OVER IT..
Some people think being gay means your weak ..well take a good look at history and present day.
lots of people who were gay have made your life so much better and contributed to the human race..

 Alexander the Great, Emperor Hadrian, Sappho, King Richard the Lionhearted, Julius and Augustus Caesar, Aristotle, Socrates, Erasmus, Christina of Sweden, Virginia Woolf, Eleanor Roosevelt, Queen Anne, Marie Antoinette, Margaret Fuller, and more modern names like Dag Hammerskjold (UN Secretary), Josephine Baker, Isadora Duncan, Frida Cahlo, Ellen Degeneres, Sir Ian McKellan, Gene Robinson, Mary Glasspool.   We have actors who defined masculinity for several generations of movie viewers: Rock Hudson, Cary Grant, Raymond Burr, Rudolf Valentino, Montgomery Clift, Tab Hunter.  In sports, John Amaechi (NY Knicks), Gareth Thomas (out rugby player), Esera Tuaolo, David Kopay, Roy Simmons (all football players), Sheryl Swoopes, Billy Jean King, Martina Navratilova.

This is just a few but to say that some these people got molested is a FUCKIN JOKE.

GROW UP ITS THE 21ST CENTURY
AND FUCK ALL YOUR RELIGIONS YOU GANG OFF DUMB FUCKS
YOUR LIKE CHILDREN
When someone does no harm to you or anybody else and its 2 consenting adults what the fuck as it got to do with you ..
even if 2 people are straight i hope as an adult your child will still be a virgin at 18 if your a responsible adult you don.t need your kids to grow up to fast..

some really sad comments made but free speech your well within your rights to say what you will
so here is my right

YOU GANG OF HOMOPHOBIC STUPID THICK DUMB FUCKS FUCK YOU AND YOUR BACKWARD THOUGHTS DICK BRAIN CUNTS :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

BRING IT ON BABY 8) 8) ;D

Whatever you say, faggot. Stay the fuck away from our children if you don't want to be dragged behind my truck for 20 miles like the diseased, wasted roadkill that you truly are.

YOUR CHILDREN WILL TURN OUT HORRIBLE LITTLE CUNTS LIKE YOU IF YOU BRING THEM UP
YOU CUNT ;D
I bet your wife is the truck driver with a bigger dick than you and your jealous :D :D :D
It be funny if 1 of your kids turn out gay YOU WILL HATE YOUR OWN CHILD  :D :D :D :D :D :D

 Now lets see what type of person you are
WOULD YOU HATE YOUR CHILD IF HE OR SHE WAS GAY :)
YOU ARE A HATEFUL MAN WITH A BACKWARD BRAIN OR HAVE YOU BEEN BUMMED AND ARE TRYING TO COME OUT..
Plenty of people who give gay people plenty of abuse but all the while they have gay feelings..
so come on be brave come out  :D :D
FAGGOT meaning i am weak i know plenty of gay people who would smash your face in so does that mean your a bigger faggot ;D

There's a reason God commands faggots be killed: YOU.

The truth hurts, but not as much as it hurts to be raped by a Catholic priest.

So what about gay girls i suppose its gay women molesting young girls and its the nuns also to blame YOU DAFT SOD grow up will you
if 1 of your children become gay would you hate him or her if you say yes you are a sad man and i would hate to be your son or daughter ..
You need to ask yourself that question would you hate your own child because it could happen
Its because of your attitude people are still scared to come out so they suffer mental abuse I.E Your own child will suffer because his or her own father mother hates them
So sad for your children..
plus you never seem to mention gay girls always the men
so does the same go for gay girls or will you come up with some other excuse for girls

not all gays will have been molested
not all gays grew up without a father mother figure
not all gays were abused by there parents
not all gays went to jail
so to suggest they all got molested is stupid..
the reason for being gay is stupid to want to find out why..
as the saying goes if its not a problem then why try and fix it
plus i would hate a world without gay people in it if you look at what gay people have done for humanity.. fashion music poetry art inventions sciences they make life colourful and happy and they can express it in a painting music a building movies inventions maths
were you and i because where straight we think the same so where not so flamboyant in our thinking..
so good job we have gay people on this planet or life would still be shit
so to say you would like to kill them all is a joke

"When you're so good that you can't say it
'Cause it ain't even cool for you to sound cocky anymore
People just get sick cause you spit
These fools can't drool or dribble a drop anymore"

No wonder the Jewish agenda is so closely tied to the gay agenda: Jews systematically rape 50% of their own boys in religious bathhouses. No wonder there are so many gay Jews, and no wonder the gay Jewish Mafia controls Hollywood, and - as a result - the minds of the world.

http://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/the-child-rape-assembly-line-0000141-v20n11

Good thing we have saved their porn search histories. We know full well who ALL of the queers are. It will be easy to separate the wheat from the faggots.

Judgement day is near for the child-raping, slave-driving faggot pedophiles. Religious institutions like the Catholic Church and Orthodox Judaism are nothing but faggot factories. Their time is up. Our time has come.

don.t worry no one trying to bend you over and bum your fat arse :D :D
there is no army of gay people coming to kick your door in to bum your kids or your fat ass
so don.t be scared :D :D
YOU HILLBILLY INBREAD CUNT GO SHAG YOUR MUM YOU INBREAD TRAMP
YOU THINK YOUR TIME AS COME
I seen all you hillbilly inbreads run like little chickens at the black lives matter rally you run
what is a gang of fat hill billy going to do your all to fat plus you all run like fat chickens :D :D :D

Funny that we were having this discussion in this thread regarding homosexuality caused by being molested and I received a call last night from an old friend I've had since high school. He called to tell me that our mutual friend recently contacted him and asked him to come over to talk. This friend's dad was a closeted homosexual and we all knew it growing-up but no one ever spoke of it, it turns out our mutual friend had been molested several times over the years of his childhood by his father and he recently confronted the bastard and told him he would have no further contact with him. This person is now in his early 40s and married with two children but says being molested as a child by his father has nearly driven him mad, he expressed that he was afraid to tell any of us as we'd probably think he was also gay which was actually never the case but I personally can't imagine having to endure what he did and living day-to-day with those hellish memories. This is my problem with gays wanting to adopt children, I could care less what two consenting adults do in the privacy of their home, but when it involves children and those children are molested or exposed to depravity, the line must be drawn.

Albeit I can't remember, how he got there, I'm not surprised to see him in my ignore list. It's a nice place for lower beings like him.

I knew after reading the first post in this thread that we were going to have some serious fire with this one.

oh yeah i totally get you, we have a mad society indeed.
Because for a moment of time no matter if they are female/male/alien/animal/ghost/god wtf ever you can have attraction with them or, fall in love with them or, form an attachment in some context with them. There are no neat boxes with life.

Being "attracted" to the same sex or different sex in whatever is way more complex than society would have you think. Lets take another example since you didnt like the first:

Look at this video here, to introudce a football players best skills video we have 35 seconds of some kind of homo worship of him to begin. Did we really need that 35 seconds of man worship? lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqKNdU_ID68

Watch any individual sports video compilation and you'll usually find this strange 30 second intro most of the time.  Probably a ton of younger people like it for reasons they dont yet know.  Its not all about showing the passion or charactor of the player, its partly serves as  socially acceptable way to have "unusual attractions".

Some people are way more gay than others but people truly on the extremes of this scale are rare https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinsey_scale

I don't believe however, that all men that are gay were molested or had dominant mothers.....
I do think, however, that sexual stimuli can happen at an early age (I have no idea what age that is....) and if it's associated with a same sex - it's imprinted... but after birth, not before....
I think everyone can get turned on by a man or woman at some point in their lives.....

;D most kids are molested by the mums dads uncles and the dad would have sex with his daughter and the mum with the son and the uncle with his niece straight sex ..FACT..
but you DICK TRUMP think its most gays that abuse kids YOU SO FUCKIN WRONG..you thick twat..
so to just blame gays is a joke you daft sod..

here is a guess
i reckon the kid got molested by different sex then grew up to hate the opposite because they molested them so maybe that turns people gay.. only some people not every gay person as been molested..some gay people have had the best up bringing and they still turn out gay..
So explain yourself DAFT SHIT..
but most kids get molested by the opposite sex FACT..
So you need to keep straight people away from kids you mean..
But my thinking is in all walks of life straight gay... kids will get molested but most get molested by straight people ...

So GROW UP YOU HATEFUL LITTLE CUNT ..trying to blame gay people for kids getting molested
You horrible maN

I CAN GUESS YOUR FROM TEXAS HILL BILLY INBRED BECAUSE YOU SOUND LIKE ONE
THICK CUNT ;D ;D

Look plenty of reasons why people are gay..I.E some gay people look back at life and try to say well i got abused so that could be the course of it..only because of hateful little fucks like you
making them think being gay is wrong..

So if you see a gay couple you be scared to leave your kids with them..
i would leave my kids with no one i trust no one weather your gay or straight
YES in this world it fuckin nuts SO I TRUST NO ONE..

I would never leave my kids with any person until that kid was 10 and then only with very close people ..but if they tried my kids are 10 and can tell me if they got molested ..
then i would kill that twat yes no police i would kill him..

THIS WORLD IS CRAZY AND YOU NEED TO WATCH YOUR KIDS BUT TO SAY EVERY GAY AS BEEN MOLESTED IS A JOKE

MY LAST POST ON SUBJECT BUT GROW UP
I EXPECT YOU TO BE AFRAID TO LET YOUR KID WALK DOWN THE STREET IF YOU TREASURE YOUR CHILDREN SO MUCH

SO DON.T BLAME GAYS BLAME SOCIETY FOR THIS FUCKED UP PLANET ;D

well said some one with some sense ;D
 have a nice xmas and new year

at least your children will grow safe and sound minds  :)
and may you live long and prosper

I hope the next president Trump will do something to stop this mass homosexual hysteria from spreading further.
Our values have been destroyed by a small group of sodomites who must be stopped as soon as possible.

May God bless Mr. Trump.

I don't think so. I have a lesbian friend and she tolds to me that he is became lesbian when she was 13 years old, because she was fall in love about its her best friend. But she doesn't say me nothing about molest.

Nuture is going to play a part in personality dev and sexuality sure https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nature_versus_nurture

& Just like how sometimes you dont like a form of music or a certain band and then you "grow to like it".  Or you've liked a certain type of music/band for many years and then you dont.... things can change.

It is not the sodomites who are behind the mass homosexual hysteria. 90% of the gays are normal people, who want to have sex in private. On the other hand, there is a hardcore group of some 10% gays, along with a few left-wing liberal activists, who create all sort of noise and take out gay pride parades where adult gays openly have sex with minor boys. This group want to use the homosexual lifestyle to justify their own fetishes, such as pedophilia and bestiality.

Ben Carson knows from experience.

Ben Carson is a medical professional, so he knows more about it. It is true that prison rape is a big issue, not just in the United States, but all over the world. Many of the victims of the prison rape end up as homosexuals and pedophiles, and worse still, a large part end up infected with deadly viruses such as HIV and Hepatitis B.

True 'dat.

Rofl people with personal experience i guess ^^

Anyone who is literate and knowledgeable about the current affairs will be having an idea about this. And you don't need to go to the jail and then sodomized by some African American thug to be aware about it. The HIV sero-conversion rates inside the American jails are one of the most researched topics in the medical community.

The US houses 22% of all prisoners in the world while having 4,5% of the world population.
As of 2013 there were 22.000 known cases of hiv.
I doubt hiv is a problem here.

Rape is easily explained by the huge number of prison inmates imho.

Oh btw i talk on a daily basis with people who have ph.d's, we never talk about prisonrape lol

man youre a total fuck wit. please pleaaaase hang yourself.

I would like to comment on this thread but I'm almost speechless.

Like  ...   WTF did I just read?

right! OP is a fucking throwback.

Being as it may molestation may be a cause for young boys and men to eventually turn gay or bisexual but it is not the ONLY cause.
I have friends who were molested as young women they didnt turn into lesbians. (Even though I would have loved it)
I have also known a guy who was a guy and is now a transgender.. and he says he was never molested and it was a conscious choice.

There are psychological reasons why people may choose to become gay but that doesn't mean they are broken.

They have their rights and other peeping dicks like yourself should stay out of other people's personal lives.

It is clear you are the one who is saying all this to incite and hurt other's feelings. In other words you are an attention seeking troll. Maybe you are the one living in denial if you do not agree to this.

The Bible is the ultimate authority. Gays have no right to live in the eyes of God.

My god. Mr you do not have the right to exist. I demand you cease to exist! I refuse to comprehend the thought of breathing the same air as you do.

Dick Trump is trolling, lel.

There are three types of homosexual people:

1. Those who are born as homosexuals or bisexuals. (Hillary Clinton, Tim Cook, Anderson Cooper.etc)
2. Those who became homosexual / bisexual after they were molested in childhood. (Corey Haim is the perfect example).
3. Those who became gay after they reached their adulthood, for various reasons (money, fame.etc. One example is Bruce Jenner).

Homosexuality is not genetic. It is caused by being molested. I have several close gay friends who have confirmed this :D :D :D :D :D your words DICK TRUMP

Well show your so called close gay friends what you have been saying on this thread and lets see how close they are to you now ;D

don.t think i would like to be your close friend anyway STAB YOU IN THE BACK not much of a close friend are you ;D ;D SAD MAN..

Oh another thing see why i hate religion ITS MAKING YOU HATE then i hate you ;D

DICK TRUMP i will learn you the ways of life and you can take it on board and change your thoughts or be an ass hole all your life right here goes ..

Being gay is no ones fault it just is and its been going on since the earth began in most animals.
but because we humans spread hate against gays because we think there weak like women that is why most gay men get the abuse.. because most people seem to think its different for women to be gay..well its not its the same..
and that is why gay people get abuse..
 And over time as people have had the balls to come out we are now finding its not the case GAYS can come from all sorts of back grounds.. like sport stars.. but still in the 21ST CENTURY there still is i reckon only 15 % of people who would admit to being gay the rest are still hiding behind a wall..
Also what about the people who dabble in it with there wives husbands and still call them selves straight.. there is a hell of a lot of people who will never admit to having a dabble..i reckon hundreds of millions of people still wont admit it..because of hateful people like you..so if this is what you think about being gay imagine what your friends head must be going threw to think society hates him and for what loving the same sex
So why hate something that does no harm to you or anybody else if 2 adults are having sex.. what ever gender they are..

If i had a GOZZY EYE and society said lets kill people with a gozzy eye or ginger hair  or a gammy leg
then imagine what my brain is going threw
We humans need to be loved or we feel left out and it can turn anyone crazy to hate mankind
Because of what you think about gays if your gay..or anyone who gets picked on by the majority can turn to hate mankind.

So why put someone threw that feeling because that person has done you no harm he is not trying to turn you gay or hurt you,
 he just wants to live a happy life without being singled out as a wrong human being ..
when all the while most gay people are fun loving people who want to harm no one..

See with religion it makes you live a life the way the book wants you to..but if i don,t want to live like that i will go to hell..so because you believe that book you begin to hate so religion as already taught you to hate..
and that is why religion must go
See being gay is not like a religion.. religion is a way of life a law that i think is backward fairy tales..
Were being gay is JUST SEX WITH THE SAME SEX END OF STORY
So if your gay hold your head up and enjoy your life next 50 years it will all be over most people will except being gay is part of human life for some people .

your son daughter might be gay TO HATE THEM IS A CRIME .
More things to worry about than what to consenting adults get up to in bed.. straight or gay..

So i suggest if you want to keep you so called close gay friends change your attitude..
Never to late to change your thoughts not every one is right and your so wrong on this one
 And please don.t preach your bullshit about god because there is no god..

I mean i don.t believe in god so why did i win 12 btc on cloud bet funny that he punishes those that pray :D :D :D :D
WHAT HE WORKS IN mysterious ways you will say :D :D :D
well if thats the case well fuck you god i will never believe in you you horrible shit :D :D :D

see if i win some more so i will enjoy my new year so keep praying you dumb shits

And you are?

Degenerate Gays Spread HIV/AIDS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyAtRVoeDv8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyAtRVoeDv8)

is that you in the video you little inbred yank go fuck your sister you hateful little inbred cunt

and ridery i hope some blast your fuckin head off you maggot  life would be so much better without cunts like you ...CUNT...
i might sound harsh but who gives a fuck about a little cunt like you
 and when your kids if you have any.. they will get there faces punched in every day with the thoughts of a little cunt like you in there brain... mind you they prob grow up to hate you anyways

SO GO AND DIE YOU HATEFUL TWAT ;D ;D ;D
so av a nice new year and i hope you get your teeth smashed in it make my new year even better
SO FUCK YOU CUNT

SAY WHAT YOU WILL I WILL READ BUT NOT RESPOND TO THE BULLSHIT THAT COMES OUT YOUR MOUTH..I AM NOW SIGNING OFF FOR 1 MONTH MUCH BETTER THINGS TO DO THAN ARGUE WITH OLDEN DAY THOUGHTS

SO FUCK U CUNT ;D

That's not me but thank you anyway. You sound and act like a typical liberal person.  :)

Somebody was molested so hard that they are permanently butthurt. Sad.

I dare you to say this after you reveal your identity and you prove that it's you. I DOUBLE DARE YOU.

You wont exist with an attitude like yours..
Still a horrible little inbred hill billy with backward thoughts
Also i think your jealous because no one to shag your fat ugly ass YOU CUNT..GO AND DIE

 your kids will be horrible little shits just like you if you pump your thoughts in to there heads
just hope?.. its the 21st century and your kids will be smart to think my dads a DICK the way he thinks..

Because i would hate your children to grow up to be a cunt like you.. BE SO SAD..

So grow up THICK SHIT..

YOUR MIND IS SMALL LIKE A PEA..
So i suppose its not your fault for being a backward thinker
So i feel sorry for you because your taught to always hate..you will get cancer with all that built up hate..
must be stressful to always be thinking about a man sticking his cock up another man ass
seems to be always on your mind..
ARE YOU SURE YOU DON.T WANT SOME..
Well if you don.t then keep your mouth shut because it sure sounds like to me you want some dick
Up your big fat truck driving ASS :D :D :D :D

So fuck you cunt and have a nice new year by getting your face punched in :D :D :D
 HATEFUL CUNT ;D
NOW THAT IS ME LAST POST TILL 2016

OH YOUR WITHIN YOUR RIGHTS TO SAY WHAT YOU WANT THO FREEDOM OF SPEECH ALWAYS NO MATTER HOW MUCH IT HURTS YOUR FEELINGS

SO GO AND DIE CUNT :D :D

Whatever you say, captain butthole.

Hi, I dont think there is any co-relation between molestation and sexual preferences. No scientific studies have proved it as well. Sexual preference is pre-developed along with your birth. Thanks

i think it is genetic illness. i dont know experts sayings on this  subject but it is cruable.

not sure about that..my friend has a friend who is gay..and his uncle is also guy..so maybe is genetic but hormones must play some role in that. 

this claim is completely wrong.. being homosexual is genetic.. rape or being molested are not related to being a gay ..

Are you saying that rape doesn't affect the victim? 

What do you think happens to all those children who are taught to have oral and anal sex when they're 5 years old, and the abuse continues until they're teenagers?  You think they just forget about it and grow up to be completely normal?

An older family member starts abusing a little boy and tells the boy that it's a special secret between people who love each other.  Then the child goes to school and the teachers say the same thing - that getting anally penetrated is just as normal and loving as a man and woman getting married and reproducing.  So the child learns at school, and on TV, that there's nothing wrong with it.

Then people like you keep saying that nobody could possibly have anal sex unless they were born different.  You tell him that he doesn't have a choice, because it was decided before he was born.  So the child learns to believe that there's something wrong with him, that the abuse is his only option in life, and basically that it's his fault for not being normal.

Then the child's single mother has a different man in the house every week, so the child learns - from his mother as his only role model - to let men use him however they want.

So by the time the child gets to middle school and the other kids start dating, he's been getting penises put in his mouth and anus for several years already.  In fact, it's the only way he's ever had an orgasm - so his mind and body become aroused when he sees an older man, because he has learned to subconsciously associate men with sex.

 Just like Pavlov's dog, the body reacts based on the mind's past experiences.  The dog cannot eat a bell, but it drools when it hears the bell because it has associated the bell with food. 

Similarly, some men develop a habit of orgasming while watching pornography, and then they can't get aroused with a real naked woman. The man cannot put his penis into a computer screen, but he has developed a dysfunctional association between sexual arousal and something else that has nothing to do with sexual intercourse.   

The same applies for men who get aroused by feet, or shoes, or whips, or rubber ball-gags, or urine - and yes, it applies for men who get aroused by men.

So what happens to the child who has been raped his whole life and had his mind and body programmed to accept it?  Who is he going to be able to date?  Not a straight girl, because this boy has been taught and encouraged to talk and act like a girl himself. 

Of course he could seek therapy - but not in California, where it is now illegal for a therapist to help a minor work on those issues after being anally raped all his life.

http://m.huffpost.com/us/news/gay-conversion-therapy-ban

 It's illegal to help them be straight, but it's perfectly legal to teach them to be gay. 

It's also legal to cut off their testicles, mutilate them with Frankenstein procedures, and then pretend they were "born that way".

Most people just play along and say it's brave and great, because they don't care if these kids live miserable lives.

Bitch you realize trolling is the result of being molested, right?  Well if we can't laugh about it, we might as well cry. 

What is transvestitism the result of?

And what part of this story is your life..Or is it that old story? its a friend of a friend who this as happened too?
Ask yourself this WHY DON'T PEOPLE ASK ABOUT STRAIGHT PEOPLES SEX LIVES?

Also what plant pot brought this DAFT FUCKIN SUBJECT UP

Misgendering someone is punishable by a $250,000 fine in New York.

Are you saying that rape is an urban legend which has never really happened to anyone?   You're saying there's no such thing as rape?

Why do you want to silence the stories of children who are being abused?  Do you want to protect rapists and allow them to rape more children?

I hate gays I hate children I love rapist I love Muslims :o

I asked you a question 1st ..Why don't people talk about people being straight ?You need to ask yourself that question..
When you find the answer then you will see how stupid this post is

Now if you check my posts you will see what type of thinker I am
plenty of gay people who have had the best up bringing and still turn out gay and have never been abused?
So now you know the question being asked is not so?

Now if you like you can open a thread about ..Why do people rape?..  remember not just kids who get raped ?

So was I right in thinking one of them stories you told was in fact part of your life story?

No, I asked a question first.

Are you saying that rape has no affect on the victim?

Since you are so confident that being molested as a child can have no consequences for a person's sexuality, then you're basically saying that rape isn't such a bad thing.

he is saying rape doesnt make you gay.

correlation doesnt imply causality

Raping left effects on every victim, no matter it's child, woman, man,old people..and some of victims later become rapist, so it's like their revange

That's true, being raped can contribute to a change in a person's sexual behavior.
 

THANKS ..You get my point

People deal with rape in different way's..How many actually report it?..some people will take it like they just got beaten in the street never report it and just carry on with life..some want to commit suicide..it all depends on the person?

but the true nature of rape is many many many go unreported because of the shame behind the whole sex subject..

ANY SANE PERSON KNOWS RAPE IS WRONG?

But still the question been asked is not true?

Now if the world started to think in life there are many many of the population who can be gay and its all ok nothing wrong with it same as being straight just 2 consenting adults having sex? if people thought this no shame in being gay.
Then just maybe people will have more guts to come out that some man just stuck his dick up ur ass without your consent? I.E RAPE MOLESTED
The same goes for women to women girl to girl man to man boy to boy..THE SHAME OF GAY SEX.But what shame i say its just 2 consenting same sexes having sex big deal

The shame about the whole sex thing do you see?

To just blame getting molested on being gay is not so..

So if there's a correlation between being gay and having been molested, but you're saying the molestation wasn't the cause of later being gay, then are you saying that the kids got raped because they were already gay?

what? i read your sentence now for the 5th time but still dont have a clue what you are trying to get at.

i will try to make it as easy as possible so you can understand:

1. correlation: rape victim who is gay
2. causality: you are gay because you got raped


ps: you should stop here, it is already obvious that you arent that smart
im sorry feel free to post

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/correlation

I beg to differ. I've known kids who seem to be gay, but weren't victims of any abuse or anything the same. There should be a lot of factor. Media, environment and the natural personality of a person i guess are some of the important factors there are.

I even heard from a certain study how every one of us has their own orientation - meaning, we all just basically vary at which place in the 'spectrum' we are. But you know what, this is one very diverse topic to begin with. I won't be surprised if they are still trying to do some serious research on the matter.

The OP likely misread something that is similar to the accusation he makes...

It is true that many/most pedophiles were molested as children.  It tends to be a repeating cycle  :'(

10-14 yr old kid gets molested, then does the same thing to some other kid when he is older...

quite sad, but I don't think it has anything to do with being gay... perhaps the OP just assumed since he was molested and turned gay, that all gay kids were molested?

This is what i said.. :)

i completely agree with you .. we are sick and tired of these homosexual freaks..

Trump loves gay people.. he has plenty of gay friends and shows them respect ;D
So you will never have Mr trump on your side ;D

So i suggest you vote for someone else

YOUR VALUES ARE WORTHLESS ;D
 

I'm so over women. Inspired by this thread I tracked down a selection of men, raped them, and then asked them out on a date with the aim of a civil partnership by the summer. Not a single one returned my calls. Am I doing something wrong?

Maybe if you stopped raping them you might get a call back ;D..

Also you been a very busy man all that and its only February..

How else am I supposed to convert a hetero? All these guys were happily married before I set my sights on them. I'm getting old now. I don't have time to beat about the bush. I want a husband NOW.

Don't know. Maybe OP just tried to find sense and logic in something we don't know much even today.

There seems to be no reason for people being gay. It just happens.

Well it's probably a mix of genetics and environment influence, but saying that means nothing as EVERYTHING is a mix from genetic and environment influence xD

So if you rape a gay it turns him straight?

It depends on how he copes with it, but yes obviously some boys who were raped by men develop extreme homophobia. Not the fake homophobia that is used to make people shut up, but real PTSD fight-or-flight flashbacks to being raped.

And yes, they may be confused and ashamed that they had orgasms while being molested.  Some people cope with those feelings through denial, embracing the gay lifestyle and claiming that they always knew they were gay since age 5 when they "willingly consented" to oral sex with a 40-year-old man.

i really hard to understand your mindset but i cant.. gay people never do such brutal things you've mentioned..  homosexualism has genetic source not spread by molesting..

Here try going there..you will have no problem ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdbt-sx5MDc

The irony of homosexuality being genetic is...

If you let them be gay, get gay married, and not spread their genes... the genes will disappear over time, making fewer homosexuals...

But, if instead you harass and murder homosexuals... They will go into hiding, marry someone of the opposite sex, and pass their "gay genes" on to another generation...

Basically, let them get gay married and there shouldn't be many gays left after a few generations...

So your saying if a gay man or gay woman has a baby that baby will be gay? :D :D

NOW THAT IS DUMB ;D

I'm not saying what you're saying is total shit but...

Well it is as you say it in a way that makes people reading you think it's a general!!!

Every case is unique and special. Don't start talking about things that are not a particular case.

I think that the gayness is just a mental hill like any other. However, I'd class it in the top-3 of the worsts. Also, I think that if gay couples are widespreading, the children that they will adopt or make being created by other people (human traffic here, but only called "the right for everyone to have children"), they will transmit this ill to "their" children.

Thats not true. Someone leading a guy to get formed as a gay just because of molesting is not true. I think thats like an addiction which creates an mental enthusiasm within themselves when they behave as a gay.

Only because you wish you could suck JESUS PENIS :D

THICK TWAT ;D

i agree with you,and i also believe that almost all of them (Homosexuality) is start from raumatic,they may ever feel some molested and being frustated,and its also because they dont love their religion and god.

Tell that to VICARS

Just like i said. Every bit there is to the person factors a lot of how he is going to be. The people who grew up with, the environment etc. Nature vs nurture right?

That is not at all what I said... genetics doesn't work like that... two "little people" could have a normal sized child... two green eyed people could have a blue eyed child... not all genes are dominant...

I was only implying that since homosexuality has a genetic component, the rate of homosexuality would be lower had it been legal instead of repressed

Around 5% of humans are homosexual (not even including bisexual)... that's amazingly high for a genetic trait which voluntarily removes itself from the gene pool...

The attempts at logical analysis on this thread are overwhelmingly positive.

A psychologist friend of mine confirmed the truth, most people who use alternative currencies are gay.

Another friend, the head of a major sociological institution who has been studying homosexual behaviours for 50 years, agreed that most homosexual males were raped by men which leads to uncomfortable conclusions about the participants in this conversation.

However, homosexual women have been shown to choose homosexuality as a preference due to not being impressed with the intelligence level amongst their male peers.

Is anyone able to post any useful information rather than pure rumour and opinion?
This is one of the most disturbing threads I've read since I stopped talking to Christians.

Our new coin, Redneck (NEK), will be distributed amongst users who can prove posts of the calibre shown here.

I have heard upwards of 50% of women are bisexual... thoughts?

I've love to have some of the coins. ;D

If OP's friends are gays who admitted they were molested by gays then I guess they've passed its gayness to their pole, i mean tube lol. I guess gays don't just sip it, they also blow it.

Not 50%. You can claim that it is 100%. Also, you can claim that 100% of the males are bisexual. So everyone is a bisexual now. Happy?

Left-wing retards never fail to surprise me in their ability to twist facts. As per self-identification, no more than 2% of the population identifies themselves as either homosexual or bisexual. Still, there are retards who claim that everyone is gay. 

Wow.... You know that it was declassified from the "mental illness" like 40 years ago?

Seriously, if it's a mental disorder you know it's the only mental disorder that affects animals too then?

Dude the only dumbass here is you. Seems like you misunderstood what he says. He just proved gayness is not a genetic thing in facts...

I don't agree with OP's statement. It's a disease. Something wrong in the brain. They should be medicated or something. Either way - it's not normal.

I'm gay and I was never molested .
This kind of thinking is very primitive. :-\

What about women? So nice and sweet. They make you barf? You'd rather choose a goat? No offense. I'm just trying to paint an image.

It is a horrible mental disease. And on top of that, homosexuality is the cause for 80% or more of the new HIV infections in the Western nations (even women are getting infected from their male bisexual partners). Several other STDs such as Syphilis, Chlamydia, and Gonorrhea are spread primarily through homosexual contact.

Things that have been proven in time, and for which there are statistics. It's interesting, is it not, how they have the highest rate of infections of all groups. And don't let me start about bug chasers, which are only gays, from what I've read.

Your the dumb ass .thick stupid person the words below is what got said

But, if instead you harass and murder homosexuals... They will go into hiding, marry someone of the opposite sex, and pass their "gay genes" on to another generation...

Basically, let them get gay married and there shouldn't be many gays left after a few generations..
 
THERE SHOULD BE NO GAYS LEFT AFTER A FEW GENERATIONS? WHY WHY WHY I ASK?


point 1 what gay gene to pass on? and like i said..So your saying if a gay man or gay woman has a baby that baby will be gay? HE IS SAYING THAT
NOW THAT IS DUMB..

What do male monkeys do when no females around?
Lets look at sailors Very famous for gays why not many females around?
Jail not many females around?
The whole gay thing is a lot more common than people will admit? No not everyone is gay.But  a hell of a lot more will never admit it

I.E how many wives buy a strap on for there man?
how many men stick a finger up there butt hole?or get there wives or girl friends to do it while having sex..
how many men will stick there willy in 1 pussy and rub each others willies in that 1 pussy?

THE WHOLE POINT OF ME TELLING YOU IS BECAUSE
Many people have different ways of having sex as long as it is 2 consenting adults what is the problem?

THAT IS ALL WE NEED TO KNOW

There will always be gay people
just like there as always been gay SPECIES ON THIS PLANET NOT JUST HUMANS?

So explain to me if you let 2 gay men get married why will there be less chance of gays being on this planet? NOW THAT IS DUMB?

ELTON JOHN? OK DUUUUUUDE?

So now the gays can call you straight people dirty because of the zika virus?

HUMANS LOVE TO BLAME BLAME BLAME..
LIKE I ALWAYS SAID THAT IS WHY RELIGION WAS INVENTED TO BLAME?
ITS THE BLAME GAME

Also most of the planet is religious of some sort so its natural that most will be against gay people because your books tell you to hate gays?
And the funny thing about it is most religious people are the FAGS? SPLOTLIGHT? They think there is something wrong with them so they hope something will forgive them..
because they think a human wont? I.E there.. pedo ..gay..murderers.. all looking for forgiveness?

Oh we have the ones who make it life and think my life is so good there must be a god?
but most people are poor? so more chance there asking for forgiveness? for what ever reason?

After sitting down for a while I have been thinking a lot

TO ALL SCIENTIST NO SUCH THING AS THE GAY GENE ..FACT?..

MOST PROBABLE THEORY IS STRESS THAT COULD BE THE CAUSE?

Stress can be caused by many many many many situations?
from birth till you die stress can be caused?

HERE IS MY THEORY
When you stress plant life they turn into hermaphrodites if you don't stress the plants life they grow normal FACT.
And the fact its just another organism could it be so for humans.STRESS?

Think of all the situations humans face stress ?  it can start in the womb till the day you die?
No women around sexual stress..
 bullied stress..
mum and dad arguing stress for the child watching it
in the womb mum drinks unborn baby hang over stress..
Lack of parent hood stress
being molested stress
SO YOU SEE STRESS STRESS STRESS..

Years ago men would go into battle no women around for years ? Stress of battle plus the fact no women around sexual stress?
Sailors at sea for years on end sexual stress plus the fact they could die stress stress? turn gay?
and i bet before he went on that ship he thought he was normal?

Some people cope with stress better than others?

Now if it is stress that causes being gay then its normal in life for people to be gay because anyone can suffer from stress?
What you think on my theory ?

Where is the peer reviewed research that backs up this hypothesis? What scientific journal was it published in?

There probably isn't a single cause but it really doesn't appear to be a choice.

Why would you think that stress is a most probably theory? If it doesn't have valid science behind it then you can't use probable with it as an adjective.

In some cases, there may be some hormones that impact sexual identity and sexual orientation in the womb.

I don't have a link, but there was a study done with dogs that showed when a female puppy was between two male puppies in the womb, she was more likely to have some behavioral traits associated with male dogs. I don't know if the reverse it true.

But the cause, whether genetic or hormonal or stress related doesn't really matter. Why should someone else's sexual identity or sexual orientation matter to you or anyone else?

Think stress plays a role in many facets of who we are and become from the womb on wards and maybe earlier.
Homosexuality is most likely just a variant in the chain,like say being left handed.

There are examples of sexual abuse at a critical stage in ones development that change you but I have not heard of say a brain injury turning some one gay. May be wrong but never read anything like that and I would think a brain injury is a huge stress to the system.

Long as we except one another and live and let live we should be good.

ITS JUST A THEORY?

Because when you stress plants out they turn hermaphrodite fact don't stress the plant out and it grows normal FACT
So could it happen to humans?

also there was a theory that being gay could be caused by stress at birth..
there was a documentary bbc1 years ago about the theory..

A whack on the head is 1 blow bang its done..mental stress is not 1 blow it carries on.
when people have an accident the trauma is over because you know its an accident ..
when someone gets bullied it carries on and on in your head giving you stress every day..

Now lets say that bump on the head was caused by someone who done it to you on purpose and you know he going to do it again
would you not be more stressed out?

Lets look at another situation.. you climb on a wall fall of it and bang your head?
how will you feel? SORE yes. that is it SORE.

Now lets say someone is bulling you every day how will you feel ?

is falling off a wall worse or getting bullied ?  remember which situation will cause you more stress in the long run?

I will find you more even i never knew

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I'm afraid your sample is way too small to draw any conclusions.

ITS STRESS  He is wrong my theory is right..
its not directed at you MR.. af_newbie the other guy

Plants become stressed they turn hermaphrodite

I HAVE SOLVED IT? The more and more i think about it the more it becomes a fact

look at plant life we are living organisms what does it say about plants they can be WHAT?

Gynodioecious: having hermaphrodite flowers and female flowers on separate plants. Gynoecious: having only female flowers (the female of a dioecious population); producing seed but not pollen. Gynomonoecious: having both bisexual and female flowers on the same plant

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plant_reproductive_morphology

Plants and Animals diverged a long long long long time ago.

How some plants respond to stimuli is not indicative of how some animals will respond to the same stimuli.

You realize that control system in human body is way more complicated than that of a plant, right?  
Our stress handling mechanism is way more sophisticated thanks to millions of years of evolution.

Stress might affect your immune system and behavior (you might become more agitated or nervous for example) in short-term, it can cause long-term changes such as cancer if exposed to stress for way too long your body can handle.

But to suggest that stress of being molested (even if it was over an extended period of time) will lead you to change a sexual preference is a big leap of faith :-).

You'd need to have a large sample of gay people and see how many were molested.  If the rate is %80-90% you might draw that conclusion.  But if you're talking several gay guys, those are just gay guys who were molested, not straight guys who were molested and turned gay.

The fact that all other animals exhibit homosexual and bisexual behavior puts a big question mark on your conclusion.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexual_behavior_in_animals

Look at sheep, 1 out of 10 sheep is gay, 2 out of 10 are bisexual.  You think they were molested by a priest or a hockey coach?

NO NO NO THIS AS BEEN MY ARGUMENT ALL ALONG. your so wrong..
When i go the beach i look at the lines in the sand and the plant life the human life i don't just splash in the sea.. I STUDY..WHY IS A ROCK A ROCK WHY IS THAT PLANT OVER THERE AND THAT ONES NOT..

WE HUMAN THINK WERE SOMETHING SPECIAL..
You are no different than a plant a frog a cow a dog? STUDY
look how plants behave look at animals how they behave germs all life is similar the way it acts.
just your lucky your a human but the process is the same for a human as a plant?
Eat and reproduce? I tell you a story..

One day i blew a dandelion and i was thinking WOW reminds me when we ejaculate..you blow the flower and the seeds spread every where to make new life ..just like when we ejaculate our semen ?

I also look at animals and they act no different than a human ..
So for you to say humans out grow other species actions is far from the truth?

Look at a bee the plant lets it have its semen the bee flies off and and makes another plant pregnant
so its made the bee do the work
same as an insect laying its eggs in another specie making another specie do the work.
and insect can act like a human the way they bring up there young?

Where am I wrong?  I never were said humans (or any other apes) are special in any way.  We are mammals like any other.  More complicated, able to think in abstract
terms, use tools, but we are essentially smarter chimpanzees. Almost identical DNA, same internal organs, equipped with a pump to circulate blood etc.

I said that we are way more complicated than plants and can better handle stress.  And I gave you examples of where your argument (of interpolation) fails.

I'd expect plants response to stress to be more visible, pronounced and more permanent that a stress response in humans.

SO WHAT YOUR SAYING IS ANIMALS DON'T FEEL STRESS?

 

HUMANS ARE NO DIFFERENT THAN A PLANT
HUMANS ARE NOTHING SPECIAL ITS JUST YOU SEEM TO THINK WE ARE..

So your saying animals don't get stressed your saying plants don't get stressed ?

The trouble with you .your trying to prove me wrong when i know Iam right.. lets look at the facts yes
please gay people admit this.. as your life ever been stressful

bullied
molested
bad birth I.E mum struggled while carrying or  problem at birth smoking in the womb drinking in the womb
mum dad arguing a lot
no parents
in jail no women around sexual frustration ..I.E STRESS
in the army no women around sexual frustration ..I.E STRESS
sailor. no women around sexual frustration ..I.E STRESS
raped
no father figure
mum dad always shouting at you when child
dad always picking on your mum growing up watching it

now 90% of gays will say that 1 of those problems has happened to them to turn them gay?
many problems can happen in the womb

so how much stress? all related to stress?
SO NOW WE KNOW ITS NOT A GENE ITS STRESS AND YES IT CAN HAPPEN TO YOUR CHILD
FROM THE WOMB TILL YOU DIE..

So in theory anyone can turn gay at any point in life?
Always remember people cope with stress better than others? but just could it be stress that makes you gay?



 

I suppose you could test that theory by looking at the most stressful occupations and comparing it to the rate of homosexuality...

Though, I highly doubt you will find any correlation

Hollar back when you have some evidence to support your hypothesis

Looks to me like are using Arab backward logic and have no real education in classic Greek scientific thinkning which has built the modern world.

Perhaps you should start with understanding some basics such as;
1. statistical correlation,
2. cause and effect,
3. genetic influences versus environmental stressors,
4. human psychology.

ARE YOU JOKING A HUMAN BRAIN IS WAY MORE SENSITIVE THAN ANYTHING ON THIS PLANET
WE WILL FEEL STRESS MORE THAN ANYTHING .

Look at when you call someone a name the stress it can cause some people?
 and some people will just tell you to go away?handle it better?

 the point is if you stress a plant out it changes sexuality ?
now my point is could it be the same for humans?

You say no because we have evolved to much to act like a plant? i say your so wrong?
ITS JUST A THEORY but a very good one

OH i asked my girlfriend her son is gay i brought him up since he was 5  he is now 19 and i always new he would turn out gay 90% sure
He come out the closet about 6 weeks ago .. but because he new i was ok about the situation he had no problem telling us with no shame..And he lives a nice life no stress no worries is friend are straight and still love him..
Now i asked her today did you ever argue or have a bad birth with your child
and she said yes she was always arguing with her ex and she had a bad birth they had to break his legs to get the child out?

Now her sisters son is gay she as the 1 child and her husband could not except he was gay there was murder in the house over the situation blaming each others family come from your side..

So i said to my girlfriend did your sister ever have stress with the baby or been arguing

THIS IS WHAT SHE SAID :o :o
Her sister tried to suffocate him when he was a baby..wow wow wow true story..
She had PMS.
that kid is now gay and the mum and dad have never had gay thoughts..

So it seems funny to me COULD IT BE STRESS?

SO BECAUSE THE GREEKS WHERE MOSTLY GAY WE ARE?

See to me its not a problem being gay and people seem to want to find an answer why people are gay ?
now could be as simple as being stressed out ?
Now anyone can get stressed out but some cope better than others?

1 male monkey takes all the women monkeys the other males cannot get near the other females because this mad male keeps chasing them..
No females around the male monkeys start humping each other ..
sexual frustration ..Stress..plus the fact there scared of the other mad monkey?

 its a theory but its looking the best one out there if your wondering why people are gay?
STRESS OF LIFE FROM WHEN YOUR BORN TILL THE DAY YOU DIE?

ANYWAY BEING GAY IS NORMAL IN LIFE WE HAVE GAY PEOPLE SO DEAL WITH IT ;D

YOUR WORDS..Our bodies handle stress way better, can accommodate a wider range of stressful stimuli without causing permanent change.  It is more flexible and more immune to stress than plants for example.  Probably has "memory" and can recall previous stressful events, adapt and respond differently.

YOUR SAYING OUR BODIES HANDLE STRESS BETTER..YOU TALK BULL..
HUMANS ARE THE MOST SENSITIVE THINGS ON THIS PLANET ..CALLING SOMEONE A NAME CAN MAKE THEM SICK..
YOU CAN SNAP A PLANTS BRANCHES AND IT STILL LIVES?
YOU CAN CUT ITS HEAD OFF AND PLANT IT AGAIN AND IT STILL LIVES

So stop talking about something you know nothing about
 your the one saying humans can cope better with stress YOUR A LIAR?


 OUR BRAINS ARE WAY MORE SENSITIVE TO STRESS CAUSING MORE HARM
TO A HUMAN THAN A PLANT
CAN A TREE HANDLE MORE STRESS THAN A HUMAN?
YOU READ YOUR OWN WORDS NUMB NUTS

I suppose you could test that theory by looking at the most stressful occupations and comparing it to the rate of homosexuality...

Though, I highly doubt you will find any correlation

Hollar back when you have some evidence to support your hypothesis

work stress  :D :D :D LEAVE YOUR JOB so what stress?

OH WHAT ABOUT THE STRESS WHEN SOMEONE ROBS OFF YOU? :D :D

STOP BEING A FOOL WE ARE TALKING ABOUT REAL LIFE STRESSES

STRESS IN WORK IS THE SAME AS BEING BULLIED WHEN YOUR A CHILD? :D :D totally different?

Ask people who have been bullied at school and now have a shit job..the bulling is way more traumatic?
So stop being foolish.

YOU PLANT POT NO WE CANNOT :D :D :D :D :D :D :D NO WAY ARE YOU SAYING THIS TO ME :D :D

WE NEED MACHINES WE CANNOT SURVIVE IN SPACE YOU BE DEAD?
G FORCE. A TREE CAN TAKE WELL MORE..

plants will survive better without water better than a human
without plant life where dead does a plant need humans?

STOP RIGHT NOW YOUR DIGGING A BIGGER HOLE FOR YOURSELF..

PLANTS ARE WAY WAY MORE STRONGER IN LIFE THAN A HUMAN
ITS WAS HERE BEFORE HUMANS AND IT WILL STILL BE HERE WHEN WHERE ALL GONE?

PLANTS ARE WAY BETTER AT COPING WITH STRESS THAN A HUMAN..
 
YOU PICK THE STRONGEST HUMAN KNOWN TO MAN
AND I WILL PICK THE STRONGEST PLANT KNOWN TO MAN

PUT THEM BOTH UNDER THE SAME STRESS SITUATIONS AND THE HUMAN WILL CRUMBLE FIRST?

If you go to the beach, maybe you should think about Sea Turtles. The temperature of incubation of turtle eggs has a big impact on male or female.

Yet temperature of the fertilized human egg in the womb has no effect on whether humans are male or female.

Snakes are closer to turtles than we are, and temperature has no effect on sex - though it does in some lizards.

The impact of environmental variables on one species does not mean the same environmental variable applied to another species has even remotely similar effect.

What happens to plants under stress does not indicate what happens to humans under stress.

Take a biology class.

YOU JUST SAID IT ? OMG WILL PEOPLE PLEASE LOOK AT WHAT YOU POST?

 YOUR WORDS? Snakes are closer to turtles than we are, and temperature has no effect on sex - though it does in some lizards.
SO IT HAPPENS IN LIZARDS ?So what your doing is contradicting yourself?
Also if the baby in the womb is not the right temperature it will die?

Is an  Australian brush turkey the same as a turtle ANSWER NO well look what happens to there eggs
YES THE SAME AS A SEA TURTLE?
TOTALLY DIFFERENT SPECIES?
ALL LIFE AS ONE COMMON GOAL EAT AND REPRODUCE?

ANYONE ELSE WANT TO BE PROVED WRONG JUST COME ALONG AND I WILL PUT YOU STRAIGHT :D

SO STOP JUST LOOKING AT TURTLES?
MANY MANY MANY SPECIES ALL DOING THE SAME..

IF YOU WANT TO LOOK AT SOMETHING SPECIAL LOOK AT FROGS THEY ARE SO AMAZING HOW THEY SURVIVE ..

Ya mostly, but i would say its on gonna be base on your surroundings. Some of whom i met wasnt really molested but they told me it they bacame like that from when they were younger by heart.

I hate to disappoint you, but I am gay :-*, and I have never been molested.
Is this thread a joke?

What happens to plants under stress does not indicate what happens to humans under stress.

Take a biology class.

STOP BEING SO THICK

WHAT SO A PLANT GOING TO WALK DOWN THE STREET WITH A CIGAR?

1 goal life as eat and reproduce that is it.. all life..

from a plant to an animal we all act the same really ...we all have the same goal
TO EAT AND REPRODUCE

for some reason you think your more special than a plant ..to the planet your not your a living organism
that is it nothing more..

Now i am saying is we need to study the way animals and plants act to see if humans act the same..
and my 45 years on this planet tell me where not that much different than a nat?

WE EAT REPRODUCE THEN WE DIE LIKE ALL LIFE

LOOK AT A VENUS FLY TRAP it eats meat and even digest it like a human?
A plant acting like a human?
even some chemicals plants produce humans produce it too the same chemicals
Animals do too


https://www.alchimiaweb.com/blogen/marijuana-hermaphroditism/
Hermaphrodite marijuana plants develop both male and female flowers. ... a marijuana plant can also become hermaphrodite by the influence of stress. .

SO CAN YOU STRESS A PLANT OUT AND IT CHANGE SEX?

So just could it happen to humans?..

Also cannabis produces THC AND CBD ..
THE HUMAN BRAIN PRODUCES THC AND CBD the same chemical as cannabis in small doses

STOP BEING STUPID MAKING OUT THAT A PLANT ACTS EXACTLY THE SAME AS A HUMAN
I AM NOT SAYING THAT?

I AM SAYING WE ACT IN SOME WAYS LIKE ANIMALS AND PLANTS ....ALL LIVING ORGANISMS?

OH I FORGOT THE BIBLE SAYS HUMANS ARE SPECIAL ON THIS PLANET?
THE WHOLE PLANET NEEDS TO STOP THINKING WERE SOMETHING SPECIAL  ;D

MY SON IS GAY
NEVER BEEN MOLESTED..
The problem is people are always wanting to know why people are gay THE QUESTION WHY?
Even some gay people will say i might be gay because of BLAH BLAH BLAH

And you will here all sorts of reasons why?
Some people will say it because they have been molested.. is it so you will feel sorry for them? i don't know?
 could gay be because of stress REMEMBER ALL SORTS OF REASONS CAUSE STRESS when a child
bullied bad parents i could go on?
 I was just saying could it be stress and this is why people turn gay?
and if it is the cause then being gay is way more common than people think remember even if you have a dabble your still really gay?

as if all response aren't confusing enough.
are all these lines questions? because if not, i don't think the question mark needs to be in the end of each line.

I have no issues to these gays but just asking. how's his father, how did he react after knowing his son is gay?

SOUND WITH IT..WE IN THE UK ARE MORE TOLERANT ?
 PLUS HE MUST OF KNEW HE TALKS A BIT GAY.. CAN BE AN INDICATOR ? NOT IN ALL CASES BUT SOME?

Now look what happens to a plant when you stress it out COULD STRESS BE THE CAUSE ?

Stress, that highly increases the risk of hermaphroditism, may have several causes, such as:

Changes in the photoperiod, specially interruptions of the dark period during flowering
Too much heat (>27°C aproximately), wrong environmental conditions
Harvesting too late, when the grower misses the deadline for harvesting his/her plants
Mechanical stress: broken branches, damaged roots, pruning during flowering,…
Irrigation issues (lack or excess)
Over-fertilisation
Insects, mites, diseases…
Thermal stress (irrigating plants with cold water…)
Use of phytotoxic products (pesticides, fungicides…)

ALL STRESS CONDITIONS WHY DOES IT HAPPEN TO A PLANT AND WHY WOULD IT NOT HAPPEN TO A HUMAN? ..REMEMBER WE HAVE MEN WANTING TO TURN INTO WOMEN?..

WE NEVER KNOW ?
OH I FORGOT ALL THE QUESTION MARKS WHERE EVER THEY ARE YOU NEED TO THINK OF THE QUESTION REALLY THINK AND SOAK IT UP LAST ONE FOR ? :D

Ok maybe I'm wrong but I think this thread is just a joke.

First if you have "several gay friends" it's rather unusual unless you're gay yourself. It's average 3% of the population who are gays so if you have several gay friends close enough to talk about very private and intimate things... Well question your own sexuality dude ;D
Second... Wtf is that shit? So every gay is a sexual predator looking for more little boys to rape? Oo
So every gay is a pedophile? Oo

And what about women homosexual? ^^

Your the dumb ass .thick stupid person the words below is what got said

But, if instead you harass and murder homosexuals... They will go into hiding, marry someone of the opposite sex, and pass their "gay genes" on to another generation...

Basically, let them get gay married and there shouldn't be many gays left after a few generations..
 
THERE SHOULD BE NO GAYS LEFT AFTER A FEW GENERATIONS? WHY WHY WHY I ASK?


point 1 what gay gene to pass on? and like i said..So your saying if a gay man or gay woman has a baby that baby will be gay? HE IS SAYING THAT
NOW THAT IS DUMB..

What do male monkeys do when no females around?
Lets look at sailors Very famous for gays why not many females around?
Jail not many females around?
The whole gay thing is a lot more common than people will admit? No not everyone is gay.But  a hell of a lot more will never admit it

I.E how many wives buy a strap on for there man?
how many men stick a finger up there butt hole?or get there wives or girl friends to do it while having sex..
how many men will stick there willy in 1 pussy and rub each others willies in that 1 pussy?

THE WHOLE POINT OF ME TELLING YOU IS BECAUSE
Many people have different ways of having sex as long as it is 2 consenting adults what is the problem?

THAT IS ALL WE NEED TO KNOW

There will always be gay people
just like there as always been gay SPECIES ON THIS PLANET NOT JUST HUMANS?

So explain to me if you let 2 gay men get married why will there be less chance of gays being on this planet? NOW THAT IS DUMB?

ELTON JOHN? OK DUUUUUUDE?

xslugx  next time dude you read what is being said  SO YOUR THE DUMB ASS

Sigh...

You're dumb because he basically proved that homosexuality is not genetic.
If it was, there wouldn't be any gay left as it is not really an evolution advantage.
It's not an advantage, being gay is and has always been a disadvantage to be able to pass your genes to next generation. Which means it's not genetics.

Think before you post with and horrible syntax by the way.

God made man and woman for each other, he never made man and man.
Homosexuality is wrong, it is unethical and damn disgusting. This is my opinion and I am positive many people agree with me.

i agree with you ..  most cases doesnt come to light because of some reasons but investigators must be more careful about child abuse than other cases..

Thanks buddy, I wouldn't have taken the time so look for those figures but they're important. It shows humans are merely like any other animals, not corrupted or evil one or whatever!

If homosexuals are humiliated or molested then it's because of their nature. No one is born gay, they are born a gender, either male or female and should grow up and live that life accordingly. I could not accept any reason for being against nature.

homosexuality is not caused by being molested, it is something you are born with, I don't know the exact causes but it is something related to how the brain works on each person.

Animals also walk around naked, shit in public, rape each other with no consequences, kill each other without remorse, and eat their own offspring.

So are you saying that it's not wrong for a person to do anything an animal does?

No, you are the one who compared homosexual humans to animals.  That means it's logical to look at other animal behaviors and call them just as natural.

But if you want to change your position and only include sexual behaviors, then you'll still have to accept rape as natural for humans since animals do it too.





According to your logic, raping and eating your own children is just as natural as homosexuality, because animals do it.

Don't you think what you're saying is offensive and hurtful to the gay community?

YOUR THE DUMB ASS?

 READ WILL YOU WHAT HE SAID ..

RIGHT IF A GAY MAN GOES WITH A WOMEN AND HAS A BABY HOW WILL THE GAY MAN PASS HIS GENES ON?
MAN YOU ARE SO THICK YOU STUPID GOAT

SO IF HE SAYING ITS NOT GENETIC THEN WHY WOULD IT MATTER MARRYING A MAN OR A WOMAN THERE STILL BE NO GAYS?

YOU THICK SOD

HE SAYS LET GAYS GET MARRIED BECAUSE ITS LESS CHANCE THEY WILL PASS THERE GENETICS ON
YOU STUPID PERSON.

YOUR NOT EVEN ENGLISH YOU PLANT POT SO LEARN HOW TO READ IT?

AND IF SOMETHING IS GENETIC YOU CAN PASS IT ON YOU THICK GOAT

You could be right   ..BUT ITS POINTING MORE TO STRESS
ANIMALS CAN SUFFER STRESS..

 GOT YOU ALL THINKING ABOUT HUMAN AND ANIMAL BEHAVIOUR BEING THE SAME
 some plant life act the same I.E Chemicals they produce being the same as a humans..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoyYSXFbVmY

You're the one doing that when you use animal behavior as the answer for whether a human behavior is right or wrong.

You're confusing what is natural for animals with what is natural for humans.

All humans have morality and ethics, and therefore morality and ethics occur in human nature and are natural.





Animals eat their own offspring regardless of the moral code in your culture.

Animals have forcible non-consensual sex regardless of the moral code in your culture.

Humans are born with organs that allow them to procreate only with a member of the opposite gender, regardless of the moral code in your culture.

Women who think they were born as "lesbians" were in fact born with a uterus, fallopian tubes, ovaries, mammary glands, and other parts that don't even function without a man.  Women's bodies are naturally born to have sex with men, regardless of the moral code in your culture.

You're the one talking about religion.

But since religion occurs naturally among humans, you shouldn't apply your moral judgements to it.

take food away from humans and we act like crazy animals

North Korean parents 'eating their own children ... - Daily Mail
www.dailymail.co.uk/.../North-Korean-parents-eat-children-driven-mad-...
27 Jan 2013 - North Korean parents 'eating their own children' after being driven mad ... hit by drought which has led to reports of people turning to cannibalism in a ... a man who went mad with hunger boiled his own child, ate his flesh and

sexuality is something that you experience, there is no genetic behavior.
those who decide on homosexuality are not pre destined, thats insane.
it IS their OWN decision.
I dunno if this includes being molested. Or this this could lead to someone being open to homosexuality.
But more important than such a situation is that gay persons tend to involve other person which are non gay.
They start to molest & stalk, and follow their person of interest, even for yrs.
They even hate those persons for being attracted by women. Having relationships.
Something which they envy. It is a emotional aspect.
If you mean this by being molested, i would agree.
This totally sucks.

lol wat? are you serious? ahahah no

God made man and woman so the world can continue to new generations, not come to a halt with gays and lesbians. Anything against God and nature will not sustain and will get wiped out.

Homosexuality is caused by being gay.  :D

Still waiting for god to pop up and start smiting gay people.  And it seems to be doing a pretty good job of sustaining itself since gay people can't procreate, yet they didn't suddenly disappear


You have to be kidding.  Gay guys have no interest in someone that isn't at least open to experimenting, they want the other person to actually want it.  You're implying that gay people are wannabe rapists which is simply bullshit.



No, but it's a counter to the argument that being gay is caused by (missing male figure, being molested, etc)...

No but who are you to decide which shouldn't be reproduced?

YOUR THE DUMB ASS?

 READ WILL YOU WHAT HE SAID ..

RIGHT IF A GAY MAN GOES WITH A WOMEN AND HAS A BABY HOW WILL THE GAY MAN PASS HIS GENES ON?
MAN YOU ARE SO THICK YOU STUPID GOAT

SO IF HE SAYING ITS NOT GENETIC THEN WHY WOULD IT MATTER MARRYING A MAN OR A WOMAN THERE STILL BE NO GAYS?

YOU THICK SOD

HE SAYS LET GAYS GET MARRIED BECAUSE ITS LESS CHANCE THEY WILL PASS THERE GENETICS ON
YOU STUPID PERSON.

YOUR NOT EVEN ENGLISH YOU PLANT POT SO LEARN HOW TO READ IT?

AND IF SOMETHING IS GENETIC YOU CAN PASS IT ON YOU THICK GOAT
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You know it's not because you found the caps lock that you seem more intelligent?
It doesn't matter what he wanted to say you little piece of shit. What he says proves it can't be genetic that's all. If he said it with another purpose in the head then he failed.

Sigh... Not easy to think hmm? ;)
Doesn't matter. It's not a crime to be dumb as hell.

Where's the peer reviewed research article that supports that hypothesis, and in what journal was it published?

Seriously, a valid hypothesis needs falsifiability (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falsifiability) conditions and I really want to see what they were for that hypothesis.

How do you know?

Please don't say "because Bible says so..."

So God created gay sheeps and it's ok but gay humans are a sin?  ???

Damn you were faster than me on this one....
But I prefer my argument though, cause trying to convince them that God is a myth never works ^^

Bible is the word of God.

Yes, the sheep argument is more relevant.  Assuming of course God exists and God created sheep, including gay sheep.

They will probably say that God created straight sheep but devil screw them up and they became gay.  

So God creates straight animals but devil (assuming he exists) is going around and checking all animals where they put their dicks, and decides
which 10% will be putting dicks in different holes.  Is that in the Bible too, probably.  If it is not, it should be.  You know like:
lions: 5%
sheep: 10%
etc.

You have to tell the devil how many conversions of each animal type the poor guy has to do.  Otherwise we will have chaos and we'll
have too many or too few gay animals >:(

Says who?  You and your deluded friends?

God must be one fucked up bronze age dude:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1367154.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1367154.0)

Hey you didn't answer this:
So God created gay sheeps and it's ok but gay humans are a sin?

Clearly a troll just having fun getting people riled up.

Even true zealots give more intelligent responses than that.

Depends on the zealot sadly... But yeah maybe it's just a troll. At least I hope ^^

BIM THANK YOU!!!

So as Homosexuality occurs naturally among humans you shouldn't apply your moral judgements to it right? ;D

The only reason people hate fags is because Bible & Quran says so.  If the religious texts did not say it, nobody would even know
that they suppose to hate them.  It would be like hating birds because they fly.

I find an idea of two lesbians making out kinda a turn on, two guys, well, not so much.  But hating them?  Why?  I'm not jealous.
Let them fuck the shit out of themselves, what is the problem?  How is it going to affect you?  Unless of course you are a closet fag yourself,
you should have no stance against this sexual preference.

It is like hating two lions making out  :o  Completely irrational.
Or hating two (or more lesbians) fisting themselves.  You might not find it attractive to look at, but hating them? What for?

But people also naturally find homosexuality disgusting.  Now what?

Obviously not all people.  Those who do should stop looking at gay porn ;)

If you find two gay guys or women holding hands disgusting you have other problems....

Holding or kissing should not be disgusting, if they were penetrating each other in the public, that would be disgusting, just like two straight adults doing 69 in public.

My kids say me kissing my wife is disgusting...Don't be a kid, grow up.  If you are straight, homosexuality should not affect you.

If people say they were molested and that's why they become gay then I am afraid I don't agree and its just an excuse. They must need proper counseling and psychological treatments will make them back to natural and productive life.

Butt people don't...
(sorry couldn't help myself)

I was raised in an evangelical house, told it was sin, an abomination, all that stuff.

I had friends that were gay. I never found them to be disgusting. They were never checking out my ass, hitting on me, or anything else that might cause me to be disgusted.

I suppose some people find it disgusting, but I didn't and a lot of people don't.

I will tell you what I do find disgusting: Telling two people they aren't allowed to love each other because you don't like to think about what they might be doing in private.

You are the dumb little shit..

 What he says proves it can't be genetic that's all. If he said it with another purpose in the head then he failed.
YOUR NOT GETTING IT ARE YOU THICK CUNT




Right you little turd explain this to me

If he is saying its not genetic THEN WHY WOULD IT MATTER IF HE WENT WITH A WOMAN?

He says let them get married there be less chance to spread there genetics
Plus if it not genetic then why should gays go into hiding
YOU THICK TWAT THIS IS WHAT GOT SAID BELOW..


The irony of homosexuality being genetic is...

If you let them be gay, get gay married, and not spread their genes... the genes will disappear over time, making fewer homosexuals...

But, if instead you harass and murder homosexuals... They will go into hiding, marry someone of the opposite sex, and pass their "gay genes" on to another generation...

Basically, let them get gay married and there shouldn't be many gays left after a few generations...




SO IF HE IS SAYING ITS NOT GENETIC..Then why should gay people go into hiding?.
Or let them marry another man so there is less chance to spread there genes?

SO IS HE SAYING ITS NOT GENETIC? ANSWER NO DUMB SHIT
he is saying that  gay genes can be passed on  ok

So next time you call someone dumb you look to see what been said DICK BRAIN
And at least have the balls to admit your wrong PLANT POT

I also want to point out you dumb little shit

When 2 gay people get married 9 times out of 10 they will have children anyway ..
and when a gay couple have children I.E surrogate mothers have them for them with there sperm.
so its is there biologic child and not adopted..
and when 2 gay people have children those children end up growing up better than most kids FACT.
They get on in life better FACT

So even getting married makes no difference THICK PERSON
And also how do you know he proves its not genetic
 BECAUSE NO ONE KNOWS WHAT CAUSES PEOPLE TO BE GAY ..
SO HE NEVER PROVED ANYTHING AND NEITHER DID YOU..

now all i said when he posted his comment was that is dumb ..And his comment was dumb
Then you come along and have the cheek to call me dumb.. point 1 for what because what he said is all lies

So like i said read before you jump the gun PLANT POT

Let me guess, your real name is Dill Doh?

You are right. People have weird and strange fetishes in today's societies and this is just an abnormal fetish in my opinion too. Morally its wrong, its against every religion.

AND YOUR NAME IS BIG MAMBA

Never really read what you had to say because your so boring..
NOW GO AND LICK YOUR MUMS SMELLY PISS FLAPS YOU INBRED LITTLE GOAT FUCKER
AND WHILES YOUR THERE GIVE YOUR DAD IF YOU KNOW WHO HE HIS A SLAP FOR BRINGING A LITTLE
PISS STREAK LIKE YOU INTO THIS WORLD

YOU BORING LITTLE TWAT WHO CARE ABOUT YOU NO ONE ..
SO GO AND TELL YOUR MUM BECAUSE WHO CARES YOU GOAT SHAGGING PISS FLAP SUCKING PIG

FUCK YOU AND DIE OF CANCER TWAT :D :D :D

ARRRRR I ENJOYED THAT     I LET IT RIP MAN   YEEEEEEEEEHAAAAAAAAA

SAY WHAT YOU WANT BECAUSE WHO GIVES A SHIT DICK BRAIN CUNT :D
BYE AND FUCK YOU FUCKERS POSTING BORING SHIT ;D

TO ALL YOU GAY HATERS 
GO AND DIE YOU RELIGIOUS MOTHER FUCKERS

Nobody hates lesbians, that's a myth...

Even God only hates when gay men have sex, he never says anything bad about lesbians in the bible...

Everyone loves woman on woman action... Atheist, Christian, man, woman, straight, gay, bisexual, white, black, even gods... everyone loves the lesbians!

Don't agree with this at all.
Maybe some people who are molested could become homosexual but some who are molested ARE NOT homosexual.
Just a dumb claim.

But everyone has a right to live their life whether others accept it or not and to blame this on sociological conditions or as issues is wrong and unacceptable in my opinion. It does not mean that I support for same gender sex.

Well I naturally find religion so disgusting I wanna burn religious people alive.
Now what?

Good!  You're almost realizing how pointless it is to say "It's natural" as an excuse for some pet behavior while excluding other behaviors from the same logic.



Notice how I only talk about facts, logic, and science, but you respond emotionally and bring up religion instead of science.

Your personal religious beliefs don't change the facts.

 Your response doesn't follow logically, so it comes across as dogmatic programming. 

When anyone disagrees with your beliefs, for any reason, you have been brainwashed to reflexively spit out a canned answer.
 
Try thinking for yourself instead of just repeating what someone else has taught you.  You're being controlled.

So we can argue that your "But since religion occurs naturally among humans, you shouldn't apply your moral judgements to it." is shit and we shouldn't take into account what you said no?

even though the bible does not explain lesbians, I think it was still inappropriate, if not explain the bible's not meant to be allowed. Be smart please

You're almost getting it.

Yes, you can argue that, but only if you argue the same against the person I was responding to.

Either all behavior is natural and therefore above moral reproach, or it's not.

Do you believe that sexual preferences are natural?  

Do you believe that homosexuals naturally find heterosexual sex disgusting?

Why do you believe that some people's sexual preferences are genetic, while other people's sexual preferences are evil religion?

Do you think you have some moral authority to condemn people's involuntary physiological reactions to sexual stimuli?

If a homosexual pornographic image gives one man an erection and makes another man vomit, why do you feel the need to call one man hateful?  

And if the image is heterosexual and makes the homosexual man vomit, why do you change your explanation from "hateful" to "natural"?

At that age, did you understand that you would never be able to build a family in a monogamous relationship with another boy?

Did you have any sense that everyone else's concepts of romantic love, dating, and marriage are all based on the biological facts of where babies come from?

Chivalry, romance, and monogamy exist because women are smaller and weaker than men, and because women get pregnant.

A father protects his daughter from men who would get her pregnant and then leave her.  She needs a man to protect her from other men, because men are generally larger and stronger than her.

Then the father gives that responsibility to her husband on her wedding day, as she publicly announces that she's going to let this one man get her pregnant. And it's specifically announced at the wedding that nobody else is allowed to have sex with the bride and groom, because of where babies come from.

The father has mixed emotions about giving up his duty and trusting his daughter's safety to someone else, but he looks forward to the joy of having grandchildren.

And that is the end goal of romantic love and dating.

A father usually would see no need to give his son's protection to another man, since his son can't get pregnant and should be able to defend himself.  Some same-sex couples do imitate this mating ceremony even though they can't actually mate, but it usually involves one person pretending to be the opposite gender so people can more easily pretend that it's similar to a normal wedding.

Oh, it makes perfect sense. I understand why you wouldn't get it, or didn't want to get it but still.

Oh but that's not the problem.
It can make you vomit. I wouldn't touch another man, I find it disgusting.

The problem is not what you think of it. The problem is if you want to forbid it. The problem is if you don't want to give the same rights to homosexuals and heterosexuals ^^
Other wise you can have whatever opinion you want!

Why do you think people get married and stay together for 50 years?

You say love is something on the level of a primary school child, but it takes more than that to keep families together.

Children need their parents.  Since all babies come from sexual reproduction between one man and one woman, we have marriage so those children will have their parents.  

A pregnant woman needs someone to provide for her, so she makes the man agree that he won't be off getting other women pregnant and providing for them instead.  A man doesn't want to work every day to provide for someone else's children instead of his own, so he makes the woman agree that she won't be getting pregnant by other men.

If you know where babies come from, you can see how marriage is all about children. Even if a woman can't get pregnant, she still needs her husband to provide for her instead of sleeping around and spending his money on other women.  

Because the government started paying women to raise children away from fathers - providing for women's needs with men's tax money - we have millions of boys who grew up with no male role model.  So they act like their moms, believing that life is all about attracting a different man every week for attention and self-esteem.

They can have the same rights every normal human being has.
But not special rights because they are gay.
And not having special pronouns.
And certainly not getting married.

Can you?  People want to make your disgust illegal.

I've never stopped any same-sex couples from calling themselves married, but I've been stopped from saying my opinion on countless forums, subreddits, comment sections, and in real life.

I could be arrested in Scotland for what I've posted here.
I could be denied entry to Canada.

So if you're against forbidding things, it's a complex issue.

Do Scotland and Canada love homosexuals so much?

It's about free speech.

If they can arrest you now for "hate speech" because you say something that's currently unpopular, then they could arrest you later for speaking in favor of gay marriage.  Nobody's safe.

So they can arrest you for saying your mind?
Not kicking in the heads of people, just saying your mind?
I'm not familiar with the laws there but that's just wrong.

I see your point and it's a good one.

You should have the right to say "I don't like homos".
But you shouldn't have the right to interfere in their life in any way.

In fact that's case in the whole world. Free speech is very American. In Europe you can get sued and get a fine for saying things like "homos are the plague of humanity".
Is it good? I don't know. It's the way things are. Free speech is not an important ideal in Europe.

Personally I wouldn't care what people say about gays, but the fact that I'm not allowed to say my opinion, that's not right at all.

I'm all for free speech.  It flushes out the crazies out of their foxholes.

It is easier to expose the nonsense they spout.  If you ban them from speaking, they will not go away.
You will not even know how many you have.

At least with free speech they have a chance (over time) to see what is wrong with their way of thinking.

Well it's not what happens in Europe ^^
Those laws were made in order to protect people and prevent them from spreading hateful beliefs.
But I agree, it's not because they can't talk publicly that they won't talk anyway.

So beliefs should be illegal?

You are spreading a belief that says we shouldn't be allowed the right to free speech,
and that the government should have control over our thoughts and feelings.

Your belief is hateful and offensive.

Therefore, you could be arrested under the law that you support.

Lol.
No we're just saying that's how thing work in Europe.
It's like gun freedom, those are aspects of society really different between USA and Europe. Too diferent to actually judge them I think.

I'll get the firewood.

LOL.  Guys let's not sink to their level.  They've been burning people alive for ages (still doing it), we are better than that.

Expose the BS, run for office, teach the next generation...but whatever you do don't kill them.  They are in hell already.

I thought you agreed with Moloch

Make up your mind

I care about people too much to harm them never mind to burn them alive. 

I think religious people are insane, they need years of de-programming, most of them are harmless.

But there are those that take their religious texts too seriously and want to kill others for no reason other than what the holy text says.

I'm a humanist and anti-theist (for obvious reasons).

Take care.

I use to be religious, even was preparing to be a preacher, when my religion lost me.

The Pharisees were about to stone a prostitute, Jesus specifically came to her defense (giving us the let he who is without sin quote), turned to her, and told her specifically "There is no one left to condemn you, neither do I"

The exact opposite of what organized religion does with anyone they call a "sinner"

When I tried bringing this to the attention of religious leaders in my church, that we were doing the exact opposite of the example Jesus gave us to do, it is like I was kicked out of the club - and it became clear to me that religion is not about making the world a better place, but is about abusing religious authority as a means of controlling people.

I won't have anything to do with organized religion.

It was a fraud when peace makers like Jesus walked the earth (he constantly clashed with them), and it is a fraud today.

Well you got the right to say anything like "I don't like gays" or "I find them disgusting".
But you can't insult them publicly or say shit like "they shouldn't live"

Well free speech isn't such an important value around here. Why? I couldn't say so. But I'm sure it's important to take care about what you're saying and the consequences

It's obviously logical to talk about insanity.

Religious beliefs could perfectly be considered as a mental illness in fact ^^

Ahah! Yeah thanks for the help buddy but let be honest they we gonna need a HELLA lot of wood! xD

Sexist bullshit detected take caution  ;D

The fact that women get pregnant and men don't isn't sexist.

It's sexist for our culture to give social and legal advantages to women while denying equal rights to men, but that's a separate discussion.

"A father protects his daughter from men who would get her pregnant and then leave her.  She needs a man to protect her from other men, because men are generally larger and stronger than her.

Then the father gives that responsibility to her husband on her wedding day, as she publicly announces that she's going to let this one man get her pregnant. And it's specifically announced at the wedding that nobody else is allowed to have sex with the bride and groom, because of where babies come from.

The father has mixed emotions about giving up his duty and trusting his daughter's safety to someone else, but he looks forward to the joy of having grandchildren."

dude if what you say is not sexist then my name is Pamela Anderson...

Well most women will have the children in a divorce. And you know that actually 35% of mollested people are men mollested by women? They never have the right on a court.

But that's all I can think about. And it's not really what I could call an oppression of women...

Well they do have some little advantages... But it's nothing compared to the disadvantages of salary and violence ><

Men don't even have the right to vote in the United States.  We have to sign away our lives to the government draft before we're allowed to vote, while women get it for free.  

But male feminist fools and eunuchs still go around talking about women's right to vote, while they don't have it themselves.

80% of all money earned by men is spent by women.

Women are paid more than men for the same work.  Men are required to work longer hours than women at the same jobs.  Men are required to do the hardest and most dangerous jobs.  Less than 3% of all sewer workers are women, but they don't want equality. 

Over one-third of all fathers in the U.S. have lost custody of their children.

Women are generally allowed to physically assault any man at any time and then have that man arrested.  Have you heard that one gender in Saudi Arabia is allowed to violently beat the other gender in public, and nobody does anything about it?  Well the same is true in the U.S.

And men are expected to accept their place as second-class citizens without complaint.  A man telling the truth about these facts is called "hateful", and there will likely be some vague insinuations that he "promotes rape", whatever that's supposed to mean.

Men have no reproductive rights.  Any contract or agreement to make a baby can be voided by the woman at any time.  But judges have ruled that a woman can steal a man's sperm and use it to make a baby without his permission.  Judges have also ruled that a male victim of rape can be forced to pay "child support" to his rapist, even if he was 15 years old when she raped him.  That's slave labor, and it's only imposed on men.

So there is no equality - a man and woman can agree to have sex and make a baby, but the law doesn't recognize the man's equal right to make that agreement.  The woman is allowed to change her mind for several months, while the man isn't given the same right to back out of his agreement.  She can even get pregnant by someone else and lie about it, denying the rights of the child, the real father, and the man who thinks he reproduced but was robbed of that right.  And it's not even illegal.

If a woman gives birth to your child, she's not even required to tell you about it.  If the woman gives that child up for adoption without telling the biological father, but he manages to find out about it, he doesn't even have the right to adopt his own child.  

And "child support" is actually "money you have to pay for having sex", since the woman isn't required to spend a penny of it on the children.  And they don't even have to be the man's own children.

Even though statistics show that most children now grow up without a father, and never encounter a male authority figure at school until age 13, men are still blamed for teaching boys the wrong things.  Even when those boys are being raised and educated completely by women.

The government takes our money and gives it to our wives as a bribe to keep our children away from us.  We can have our homes taken and be forced to keep paying the mortgage - and if we lose our job or can't afford it for any reason, we go to jail.  When we get out of jail, we aren't allowed to have a driver's license.

Men are still expected to marry, even though marriage is now a contract that brings only penalties for a man and no rights or benefits.  A woman is allowed to break her marriage contract for no reason at all, and she will face no repercussions.  

Legally speaking, marriage means "The man agrees to limit his behavior to whatever the woman allows;  the woman can do whatever she wants;  the woman can take the man's money and house whenever she wants;  if the woman secretly gets pregnant by another man, her husband still has to pay child support for 18 years. You may now kiss the bride, but you may be arrested if she later says the kiss was non-consensual."

Some black people used to "pass" as white if their skin was light enough, so they could be treated as equals under an unjust system.  Now men are "passing" as women, even removing their own genitals, because our society taught them that it's better to be female.  They call themselves women to get the extra rights and privileges that men are denied.

When 12 women accuse 1 man of rape with no evidence, he is presumed guilty.  People say, " All those women can't be lying."

But when 1 woman accuses 12 respected male students of rape with no evidence, people say "They're all lying."

Our culture values men less than it values women.

Would you like to see video of a woman sneaking up on a seated policeman, inside a police station, and cutting his throat?  Would you like to see courtroom footage of a judge sentencing her to no jail time for attempted murder?  She is allowed to walk free.

I could post that video, and I could go on to list countless more rights and privileges that women are given over men.  But if you don't already know the truth, you just don't want to know it.

wow dude I don't know where you're from but that's not the USA for sure...

You're right on the fact that women more or less win more often in case of a divorce and the fact that women can't be enrolled in case of war. But that's all, everything else you say is pure shit ^^

WTF are you talking about saying women are paid more and work less? That's totally false that's the other way around xD

Everything I said is true in the U.S., and if you don't know it then you're ignorant.





It's illegal to pay women less money for the same work.

So you're wrong, and you have no idea what you're talking about.


http://www.bls.gov/opub/ted/2015/time-spent-working-by-full-and-part-time-status-gender-and-location-in-2014.htm


That's a U.S. government website.

It says men work more than women.

Men work more overtime, men work more night shifts, men work more holidays, men work more on their own birthdays, and men do harder work that is more stressful and requires more responsibility, skill, and education.

Men also work longer careers without staying home for years at a time, and they retire later.

So before you can show women getting paid less for equal work, first you'll have to find women doing equal work.

This is why I call them hypocrites (and, as you pointed out, so did Jesus)

Does that make me more Christ-like than Christians?

Actually Jesus coined the term "hypocrite", because the word itself just meant a theatrical actor.  But since all of Western culture was built on the Bible, we use it in the sense the Jesus used it.

For example, someone who concern-trolls about child sacrifice and talks about "bronze age psychopaths" when his chosen avatar is a bronze age idol that was used to burn children alive.

Slow down hoss... who told you that?

America was founded on separation of church and state...

https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/first_amendment (https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/first_amendment)

I'll remember that the next time I think about replying to one of your hate-filled comments or topics.

And if you don't care about men's rights, then you must hate yourself.

So I think I'll continue hating inequality and injustice, rather than hating God and family and children and myself.  But good luck with that.