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Title: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - POKER CLOSING - 42 BTC BBJP??? ✅ Post by: TwitchySeal on September 13, 2016, 06:05:18 PM Betcoin has recently closed their thread and opened a new self-moderated thread.
This thread will serve as a place to discuss Betcoin.ag without being censored by the CENSORED POSTS: [not up to date, missing many posts] Submit anything Betcoin has deleted from any of their threads on this forum or their own.
Title: Re: BETCOIN.AG - Poker, Sports, Casino, Dice, Shills, Scumbags - UNCENSORED THREAD Post by: game-protect on September 13, 2016, 06:40:06 PM Betcoin.ag Scam!
The Betcoin Casino Terms of Service https://www.betcoin.ag/support/betcoin-casino-terms-service are anyway not valid, because the contract partners and applicable jurisdiction is missing. Betcoin.ag Poker Terms of Service (https://www.betcoin.ag/support/betcoin-poker-terms-service-tos) (TOS) Quote BetcoinPoker.com advises You to read all of these documents carefully as each forms part of the legally binding agreement between You and BetcoinPoker.com -> It is juridical not possible to have a legally binding agreement with a domain name! Legally binding agreements are only possible between legal entities or private persons. The “Terms of Service” does also neither state the name of the operator nor a gambling license (if any exist), nothing! -> False and misleading statements are the criminal offense of fraud! Fraud Act 2016 2 Fraud by false representation (http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/35/contents) (1) A person is in breach of this section if he— (a) dishonestly makes a false representation, and (b) intends, by making the representation— (i) to make a gain for himself or another, or (ii) to cause loss to another or to expose another to a risk of loss. (2) A representation is false if— (a) it is untrue or misleading, and (b) the person making it knows that it is, or might be, untrue or misleading. (3) “Representation” means any representation as to fact or law, including a representation as to the state of mind of— (a) the person making the representation, or (b) any other person. (4) A representation may be express or implied. (5) For the purposes of this section a representation may be regarded as made if it (or anything implying it) is submitted in any form to any system or device designed to receive, convey or respond to communications (with or without human intervention). Betcoin.ag governed in Hong Kong or Curacao or Costa Rica or nowhere? Quote 25. GOVERNING LAW These Agreements shall be governed by and interpreted in accordance with the laws of Hong Kong. You irrevocably agree to submit to the exclusive jurisdiction of the courts of Curacao in The Netherlands Antilles for the settlement of any dispute or matters arising out of or concerning these Agreements or their enforceability. Based on what shall the alleged agreements with Betcoin.ag be governed and interpreted in accordance with the laws of Hong Kong or Curacao? How could “These Agreements” be governed and interpreted in accordance with the laws of Hong Kong, while online gambling is not allowed in Hong Kong? Does this make sense? If the Betcoin.ag operation shall be governed by and interpreted in accordance with the laws of Hong Kong, why do you need to irrevocably agree to submit to the exclusive jurisdiction of the courts of Curacao? http://www0.xup.in/exec/ximg.php?fid=17808949 Wait, Betcoin.ag scam Casino Terms of Service (https://www.betcoin.ag/support/betcoin-casino-terms-service) (TOS) Quote The Agreement and any matters relating hereto shall be governed by, and construed in accordance with the laws of Costa Rica. Each party irrevocably agrees that the relevant courts of Costa Rica shall have exclusive jurisdiction in relation to any claim, dispute or difference between them concerning the Agreement and any matter arising hereunder. 1, 2 or 3, you have to decide, 3 fields are free! So where is it now? Hong Kong or Curacao or Costa Rica or nowhere? Who is the operator of Betcoin.ag? Why is the name not stated on their website? Do you feel comfortable to send your Bitcoins to something while you do not know who the operator is? Here is a guy who won a huge Jackpot, but of course did not receive it: BetSoft Non-Payment of Jackpot (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1517648.0) Title: Re: BETCOIN.AG - Poker, Sports, Casino, Dice, Shills, Scumbags - UNCENSORED THREAD Post by: TwitchySeal on September 13, 2016, 08:18:50 PM Well I've had two posts deleted from their thread so far.
One was a link to this thread, the other: Quote from: Bitcoin Forum A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by the starter of a self-moderated topic. There are no rules of self-moderation, so this deletion cannot be appealed. Do not continue posting in this topic if the topic-starter has requested that you leave. You can create a new topic if you are unsatisfied with this one. If the topic-starter is scamming, post about it in Scam Accusations. Quote Hi, I think you should clarify what you consider spam and provide guidelines so players know what is ok and not ok to post. Many of your great players questions are ignored because you choose to ignore them. Sometimes they just choose to accept that their question was ignored, other times they ask the question again. And again. And again. Thinking that maybe they will eventually receive an answer. Do you consider this post spam? (Even if so, please don't write of this post as spam, it's a legitimate question about spam ) https://i.gyazo.com/1a654cd7b6e49f6974b5740d83bd5319.png http://archive.is/jyxh6 Title: Re: BETCOIN.AG - Poker, Sports, Casino, Dice, Shills, Scumbags - UNCENSORED THREAD Post by: arcanaaerobics on September 13, 2016, 08:32:40 PM Well they already have a big thread of scam acusation, don't know why people still putting money in there...
It's great to see a topic like that, I'll be watching. Title: Re: BETCOIN.AG - Poker, Sports, Casino, Shills, Scumbags*OFFICIAL UNCENSORED THREAD* Post by: DarkDays on September 13, 2016, 11:22:55 PM IMO the first post should be edited to include a list of unanswered questions/questionable practices/outright thievery by Betcoin. That way, unsuspecting
I also think it's appropriate to include Xiao's rakeback business' unanswered questions and questionable practices since there's now zero doubt that he works directly for Betcoin. I'll begin compiling the list but wanted to get it out there now so that as little time as possible can go by with them able to let their scam flag fly without the other side of the story being presented to prospective Edit: Here's a partial list I was able to type up in a few minutes using Twitchy's Scam Accusation thread as a guideline. Please add to it/revise it/add relevant links. Once we've got a completed list I think it should be added to the OP, posted in the Betcoin Shill moderated thread (to give them a chance to respond/correct the record), and PM'ed to Betcoin representatives to ensure that we attempted to handle these unresolved issues in the most fair, unbiased, and reasonable manner. UNANSWERED QUESTIONS: What happened to all of the money (~12btc) that was collected as part of the 'Bad Beat Jackpot' between December 2013 and August 2015 that never got added to the BBJ? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=386266.msg13028300#msg13028300 Why did you overrake pots between October 2015 and December 2015? Why did you not repay the overraked amounts, instead asking users to 'gamble' to see if they would have additional money stolen from them? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=386266.msg13490869#msg13490869 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=386266.msg14087000#msg14087000 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=386266.msg14104300#msg14104300 How did Betcoin player's personal data get compromised in January 2016, leading to constant phishing emails sent to all players WITH their corresponding Betcoin usernames attached? What other personal data got compromised? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1322261.msg14028232#msg14028232 Why did you not go to bat for Jason when he won a jackpot on one of your slots and wasn't paid? Why did you take money from his account to fund a "thank you freeroll" that never ran? Why have you never answered any of his many questions that stemmed from the incident regarding how you handled the situation? QUESTIONABLE PRACTICES: Increasing the rake site-wide with no announcment, including uncapped rake on HU games. https://embed.gyazo.com/ad195a51fc39e7a652ac2eaecfe998ef.png Lying about their "parent company(s)" https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=386266.msg13114593#msg13114593 Paying for positive reviews and fabricated claims against other users. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1322261.msg13937370#msg13937370 Title: Re: BETCOIN.AG - Poker, Sports, Casino, Shills, Scumbags*OFFICIAL UNCENSORED THREAD* Post by: TwitchySeal on September 14, 2016, 12:10:02 AM Updated op. Far from complete obviously, but it's a start.
Any input appreciated. Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠-Poker, Sports, Casino, Shills, Scumbags*OFFICIAL UNCENSORED THREAD* Post by: StratisKing on September 14, 2016, 06:13:00 AM "Why did you overrake pots between October 2015 and December 2015?“
Do they adjust the original rakeback now? Or they only overraked during those 3 months? Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠-Poker, Sports, Casino, Shills, Scumbags*OFFICIAL UNCENSORED THREAD* Post by: TwitchySeal on September 14, 2016, 06:50:29 AM "Why did you overrake pots between October 2015 and December 2015?“ Do they adjust the original rakeback now? Or they only overraked during those 3 months? They started over-raking on Oct 31/Nov1 2015. A few players posted about it on betcoins forum the first or second week of Nov. I didn't find out about it until weeks later and then called them out and figured out the issue inthis post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=386266.msg13190933#msg13190933) Around the first week of December, they made a weird statement: https://www.betcoin.ag/ring-game-rake-testers-needed#comment-46561 (<----Note: Heavy censorship in that thread) "The rake is actually programmed correctly in the system with the proper cap... " Then they increased the rake without any notice other than a post on their forum saying "rakes increased". (The biggest change was HU Cash games had no cap anymore) From December to March they ignored players asking about refunds for the over charge from Nov-Dec for the most part. Occasionally they would lie though. Then on March 16th they made this announcement: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=386266.msg14087000#msg14087000 "Betcoin Poker Return of Overcharged Rake or Daily Coin Ticket" In the end they rewarded the people who are active in the forums and any mid-highstakes player who didn't keep up got screwed out of a lot of money. More relevant info and mr "BetcoinPokerRakeBack.com" s thoughts on the situation before Betcoin (sort of) admitted guilt The reason Betcoin is not refunding people is because there is basically nothing to refund. A lot of people were getting 100%+ rakeback so the higher the rake the more they gained. You have to consider the amount paid back in VIP RB, 100% bonuses, 100% RB prop player programs, affiliate RB, tablestarter RB etc, all of which Twitchy failed to consider in his calculations. Ok, show me your calculations then, I've asked you for them many times. I doubt you or Betcoin has even bothered to calculate anything. I had already admitted that Betcoin made a mistake due to their inexperience in poker room management (to their credit they are growing exponentially wiser as time goes on). The reason Betcoin is not refunding people is because there is basically nothing to refund. A lot of people were getting 100%+ rakeback so the higher the rake the more they gained. This is far from reality. Xiaoxiao has continually made derceptive comments like this and then refused to defend them in any way. Betcoin has a table starter promotion offering 100% rakeback. At MOST 2 players from any table are eligible, because of the requirements - there are often going to be 0 or 1 players receiving it. Xiao has refused to comment on the fact that heads up cash tables are not eligible for this promotion and Betcoin was taking up to 4 extra mbtc every time a hand went to the flop. At the mid to high stakes, I estimate Betcoin was taking around 280 mbtc per hour from 10/31 - 12/9. (Easily 100+ hands per hour, seeing 70% of flops = 280 chips/hr per table in over charged rake) I've proven the rake was collected wrong during this 5+ week period, this is Xiaos comment which he refuses to elaborate on: Regarding everything else you've said. No, I totally disagree with your claims. The rake did go higher briefly but was corrected. Quote A small percentage of players were effected negatively but it's so minute that it's barely noticeable which is why those people aren't complaining or don't care. This is just not true. Many players were unaware they were stolen from, and recently have been asking for a refund. There have been talks of a boycott recently by a group of players. Here is an example of Betcoin handled one of the highest volume regulars on the site. (read from bottom to top) https://i.gyazo.com/ac77f0531a07da046191b8f9f61994a1.png Dooglus summed up a great point on Betcoins forum by asking this question. Rather than responding to him, Betcoin deleted it. https://i.gyazo.com/eb0263b394ec57b8462ceaeb465a0c57.png The only thing I agree with is the fact that Betcoin probably didn't do this on purpose. Nearly every issue I've brought up has been a result of their incompetence. If they would simply admit their mistakes, and fix them - this wouldn't be what it is today. Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠-Poker, Sports, Casino, Shills, Scumbags*OFFICIAL UNCENSORED THREAD* Post by: DarkDays on September 14, 2016, 07:56:44 PM Why was this moved to "Scam Accusations"? Is there a way to have an honest discussion with a moderator to explain why allowing censored topics in the "gambling" forum and moving uncensored discussions off of the forum a horrible idea? Anyone with half a brain can see what this is going to lead to.
Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠-Poker, Sports, Casino, Shills, Scumbags*OFFICIAL UNCENSORED THREAD* Post by: TwitchySeal on September 15, 2016, 03:05:29 AM Why was this moved to "Scam Accusations"? Is there a way to have an honest discussion with a moderator to explain why allowing censored topics in the "gambling" forum and moving uncensored discussions off of the forum a horrible idea? Anyone with half a brain can see what this is going to lead to. fixed (i hope)Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠-Poker, Sports, Casino, Shills, Scumbags*OFFICIAL UNCENSORED THREAD* Post by: DarkDays on September 15, 2016, 04:49:28 AM Why was this moved to "Scam Accusations"? Is there a way to have an honest discussion with a moderator to explain why allowing censored topics in the "gambling" forum and moving uncensored discussions off of the forum a horrible idea? Anyone with half a brain can see what this is going to lead to. fixed (i hope)Looks fixed, I'm seeing it in the 'Gambling' section, thanks for working on that. Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠-Poker, Sports, Casino, Dice, Affiliates *UNCENSORED THREAD* Post by: olubams on September 15, 2016, 09:23:28 AM This is serious coming from a popular site on this platform is very discouraging and bad... I think the awareness should be more than this for people to be aware of the activities going on there... In my opinion if you're running a public facility then you should develop a thick skin and not censor post to your taste...
Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠-Poker, Sports, Casino, Dice, Affiliates *UNCENSORED THREAD* Post by: DarkDays on September 15, 2016, 09:46:33 AM This is serious coming from a popular site on this platform is very discouraging and bad... I think the awareness should be more than this for people to be aware of the activities going on there... In my opinion if you're running a public facility then you should develop a thick skin and not censor post to your taste... The problem is their blatant disregard for honesty. They literally treat their paying customers like they are the dumbest people on the planet. If it was a situation where their thread was being inundated by legit trolls or spam, I'd understand. But every single interaction would go like this: Betcoin steals money Customers say "hey why did you steal that money" Betcoin doesn't say anything Customers say "no seriously you stole a bunch of money, here's a ton of proof...what is going on" Betcoin doesn't say anything (at one point when they were caught in a bunch of lies and Dooglus was getting on their case they left the forum completely for a couple of months) Customers say "wow that's really messed up that you would steal our money and then not even pretend to have an excuse" Betcoin: Bumps months-old promos and acts like nothing happened This type of exchange has happened so many times in the last year+ that it's honestly starting to look like a long-con type of situation. That's why prospective depositors need to educate themselves and exercise caution. Especially since they've now progressed from ignoring people to censoring people. I've seen this many times in the poker industry, and it always ends the same way. Not good. Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠-Poker, Sports, Casino, Dice, Affiliates *UNCENSORED THREAD* Post by: game-protect on September 19, 2016, 01:37:13 PM Betcoin.ag extort 500 Bitcoins Jackpot winner for "settlement" (https://game-protect.com/betcoin-ag-extort-jackpot-settlement/)
Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠-Poker, Sports, Casino, Dice, Affiliates *UNCENSORED THREAD* Post by: ghost15 on September 19, 2016, 11:41:45 PM I am very happy to find this thread where I can talk freely about my experience in their site;
so here is my story with these S O B of betcoin.ag: all was started about six month ago when i decided to start playing online and my misfortune conduct me to this fucking casino and deposit over 2BTC, everything was going well (provided I deposits money). one day frequenting their stupid chat i had a discussion withe some member that has degenerated, and they asked the staff to banned me from the site and that's what he have done. i don't like the fact that i was banned because of some player that have the same rank as me but who have experience in licking balls requested it, and open a new account to complete my discussion but each time they remove it, i opened about 10 account but still not terminate my discussion with him; the day after with a new account betcoinandrew asked me to stop creating alt account and reactivate my oldest one(with a bronzIII VIP) and like an idiot I accept that but I rarely visited their casino since that day. 2 days ago i deposited a small amount and asked for my new depositor freeroll ticket but still no response, and today contacted him in the live support and the surprise: Live Support Ask us anything Chat started ghost15 Ticket #65227 Ticket #65227 Betcoin Danny joined the chat Betcoin Danny Hello you are not eligible to play in that freeroll due to multiple accounts Betcoin Danny left the chat ghost15 multiple account ????? cant i know what is my alt account here? Betcoin Danny joined the chat Betcoin Danny correct should I tell you all accounts this account will be terminated ghost15 yes i'm interested because i was never had an alt account Betcoin Danny I do not like people who lie your computer parameters are detected by the system ghost15 it's bad to accuse people ok it's not a problem i have lost a silver vip level in you site it's will not be a problem to lose this one Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠-Poker, Sports, Casino, Dice, Affiliates *UNCENSORED THREAD* Post by: DarkDays on September 20, 2016, 12:12:01 AM I am very happy to find this thread where I can talk freely about my experience in their site; so here is my story with these S O B of betcoin.ag: all was started about six month ago when i decided to start playing online and my misfortune conduct me to this fucking casino and deposit over 2BTC, everything was going well (provided I deposits money). one day frequenting their stupid chat i had a discussion withe some member that has degenerated, and they asked the staff to banned me from the site and that's what he have done. i don't like the fact that i was banned because of some player that have the same rank as me but who have experience in licking balls requested it, and open a new account to complete my discussion but each time they remove it, i opened about 10 account but still not terminate my discussion with him; the day after with a new account betcoinandrew asked me to stop creating alt account and reactivate my oldest one(with a bronzIII VIP) and like an idiot I accept that but I rarely visited their casino since that day. 2 days ago i deposited a small amount and asked for my new depositor freeroll ticket but still no response, and today contacted him in the live support and the surprise: Live Support Ask us anything Chat started ghost15 Ticket #65227 Ticket #65227 Betcoin Danny joined the chat Betcoin Danny Hello you are not eligible to play in that freeroll due to multiple accounts Betcoin Danny left the chat ghost15 multiple account ????? cant i know what is my alt account here? Betcoin Danny joined the chat Betcoin Danny correct should I tell you all accounts this account will be terminated ghost15 yes i'm interested because i was never had an alt account Betcoin Danny I do not like people who lie your computer parameters are detected by the system ghost15 it's bad to accuse people ok it's not a problem i have lost a silver vip level in you site it's will not be a problem to lose this one This is very unclear. You say you opened 10 accounts and then say that you didn't open any other accounts. Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠-Poker, Sports, Casino, Dice, Affiliates *UNCENSORED THREAD* Post by: newIndia on September 20, 2016, 12:16:44 AM This is serious coming from a popular site on this platform is very discouraging and bad... I think the awareness should be more than this for people to be aware of the activities going on there... In my opinion if you're running a public facility then you should develop a thick skin and not censor post to your taste... I'm kinda out of loop to this. I thought, they are a big casino. What is the exact allegation against Betcoin.ag?Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠-Poker, Sports, Casino, Dice, Affiliates *UNCENSORED THREAD* Post by: ghost15 on September 20, 2016, 12:33:30 AM snip This is very unclear. You say you opened 10 accounts and then say that you didn't open any other accounts. Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠-Poker, Sports, Casino, Dice, Affiliates *UNCENSORED THREAD* Post by: DarkDays on September 20, 2016, 03:05:46 AM This is serious coming from a popular site on this platform is very discouraging and bad... I think the awareness should be more than this for people to be aware of the activities going on there... In my opinion if you're running a public facility then you should develop a thick skin and not censor post to your taste... I'm kinda out of loop to this. I thought, they are a big casino. What is the exact allegation against Betcoin.ag?Read the OP. Everything is explained in full with links. Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠-Poker, Sports, Casino, Dice, Affiliates *UNCENSORED THREAD* Post by: Beefheart on September 20, 2016, 04:23:28 AM logged in for the first time in a while... what happened to the WPN sit-n-go tourneys? All I see are the mBTC, and they NEVER run... Any info is appreciated
Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠-Poker, Sports, Casino, Dice, Affiliates *UNCENSORED THREAD* Post by: game-protect on September 20, 2016, 04:04:12 PM logged in for the first time in a while... what happened to the WPN sit-n-go tourneys? All I see are the mBTC, and they NEVER run... Any info is appreciated Betcoin.ag join(ed) the WPN Sit&Gos thru the Winning Tournament Network (WTN). Betcoin.ag is no skin on the WPN like ACR, BlackChip, Trupoker, etc..If the WPN Sit&Gos are not available anymore, they obviously got kicked. Their mBTC Sit&Gos NEVER run, confirms that their own traffic is almost dead. They recently moved to censorship and self-moderated threads and this typically confirms the last stage of their scam/ponzi scheme! Run, run, run... :D Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠-Poker, Sports, Casino, Dice, Affiliates *UNCENSORED THREAD* Post by: DarkDays on September 20, 2016, 05:53:14 PM logged in for the first time in a while... what happened to the WPN sit-n-go tourneys? All I see are the mBTC, and they NEVER run... Any info is appreciated Betcoin.ag join(ed) the WPN Sit&Gos thru the Winning Tournament Network (WTN). Betcoin.ag is no skin on the WPN like ACR, BlackChip, Trupoker, etc..If the WPN Sit&Gos are not available anymore, they obviously got kicked. Their mBTC Sit&Gos NEVER run, confirms that their own traffic is almost dead. They recently moved to censorship and self-moderated threads and this typically confirms the last stage of their scam/ponzi scheme! Run, run, run... :D You didn't answer his question. I don't think you are doing anything to help the situation. The answer to the question is that Betcoin has such horrible security that they were helping to facilitate fraud. Someone would go on ACR or BCP, use a stolen credit card to deposit, and then lobby a HU SNG at the same time as their buddy (or them on another computer) who was playing on Betcoin. The ACR/BCP account would intentionally lose to the Betcoin player who would then withdraw. Betcoin security wouldn't catch them and they would be able to steal the money scot-free. Instead of improving their security, Betcoin just refused to participate in WTN SNGs. Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠-Poker, Sports, Casino, Dice, Affiliates *UNCENSORED THREAD* Post by: game-protect on September 20, 2016, 07:19:53 PM I answered his questions perfectly:
1) No WPN Sit&Gos = Betcoin.ag is not connected 2) Betcoin.ag mBTC Sit&Gos NEVER run = Betcoin.ag traffic is dead = no customers My explanation for 1) might be wrong, so feel free to post the documents confirming that they refuse it? If Betcoin.ag is a security risk for the WPN skins, then they likely got kicked and not Betcoin.ag refuse to join the WPN Sit&Gos. Betcoin.ag is a criminal operation and they do not care about anything! So they likely would not refuse it, especially as this show that their own Sit&Go is dead = no customers. ;) Opposed to their 77,000 forum members :D Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠-Poker, Sports, Casino, Dice, Affiliates *UNCENSORED THREAD* Post by: Beefheart on September 20, 2016, 08:03:32 PM thanks for the answers
Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠-Poker, Sports, Casino, Dice, Affiliates *UNCENSORED THREAD* Post by: DarkDays on September 20, 2016, 08:27:03 PM I answered his questions perfectly: 1) No WPN Sit&Gos = Betcoin.ag is not connected 2) Betcoin.ag mBTC Sit&Gos NEVER run = Betcoin.ag traffic is dead = no customers My explanation for 1) might be wrong, so feel free to post the documents confirming that they refuse it? If Betcoin.ag is a security risk for the WPN skins, then they likely got kicked and not Betcoin.ag refuse to join the WPN Sit&Gos. Betcoin.ag is a criminal operation and they do not care about anything! So they likely would not refuse it, especially as this show that their own Sit&Go is dead = no customers. ;) Opposed to their 77,000 forum members :D ...what? I told you exactly what happened. There was a ton of fraud being committed, WTN told Betcoin that they needed better security or else they would be liable for paying the network the money they lost from fraudulent charge-backs that were laundered through Betcoin. Betcoin said "no" because they didn't want to improve their security and didn't want to pay for the fraud that people were committing through their site. Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠-Poker, Sports, Casino, Dice, Affiliates *UNCENSORED THREAD* Post by: game-protect on September 20, 2016, 10:21:19 PM I answered his questions perfectly: 1) No WPN Sit&Gos = Betcoin.ag is not connected 2) Betcoin.ag mBTC Sit&Gos NEVER run = Betcoin.ag traffic is dead = no customers My explanation for 1) might be wrong, so feel free to post the documents confirming that they refuse it? If Betcoin.ag is a security risk for the WPN skins, then they likely got kicked and not Betcoin.ag refuse to join the WPN Sit&Gos. Betcoin.ag is a criminal operation and they do not care about anything! So they likely would not refuse it, especially as this show that their own Sit&Go is dead = no customers. ;) Opposed to their 77,000 forum members :D ...what? I told you exactly what happened. There was a ton of fraud being committed, WTN told Betcoin that they needed better security or else they would be liable for paying the network the money they lost from fraudulent charge-backs that were laundered through Betcoin. Betcoin said "no" because they didn't want to improve their security and didn't want to pay for the fraud that people were committing through their site. According to Betcoin.ag, they are working on it and WPN (WTN) Sit&Gos will be back: what happened to the WPN sit-n-go tourneys? There was some abuse of the SitnGo's that we are working to fix and integrate them back in among other things. We will certainly keep you posted. Thank you. Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠-Poker, Sports, Casino, Dice, Affiliates *UNCENSORED THREAD* Post by: DarkDays on September 20, 2016, 11:39:38 PM According to Betcoin.ag, they are working on it and WPN (WTN) Sit&Gos will be back: Betcoin also said that jackpots would be live ~6 months ago and that they weren't stealing BBJ funds and that nobody accessed their private databases and stole customer's personal information. Betcoin lies. If you don't know that, I legit don't understand what you are doing in this thread. You aren't helping the situation, it seems like you are just spamming your site. Please stop. Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠-Poker, Sports, Casino, Dice, Affiliates *UNCENSORED THREAD* Post by: game-protect on September 21, 2016, 01:11:03 AM According to Betcoin.ag, they are working on it and WPN (WTN) Sit&Gos will be back: Betcoin also said that jackpots would be live ~6 months ago and that they weren't stealing BBJ funds and that nobody accessed their private databases and stole customer's personal information. Betcoin lies. If you don't know that, I legit don't understand what you are doing in this thread. You aren't helping the situation, it seems like you are just spamming your site. Please stop. How did you help the situation? From where do you have that info? Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠-Poker, Sports, Casino, Dice, Affiliates *UNCENSORED THREAD* Post by: DarkDays on September 21, 2016, 06:59:33 AM According to Betcoin.ag, they are working on it and WPN (WTN) Sit&Gos will be back: Betcoin also said that jackpots would be live ~6 months ago and that they weren't stealing BBJ funds and that nobody accessed their private databases and stole customer's personal information. Betcoin lies. If you don't know that, I legit don't understand what you are doing in this thread. You aren't helping the situation, it seems like you are just spamming your site. Please stop. How did you help the situation? From where do you have that info? I helped the situation by correctly answering someone's question. I have the info from always having my eyes and ears open, trusting my sources, and understanding how to put together two half-truths to read the full story. You are right...they are criminals. And I feel that en exit scam is on the horizon. We all need to work together as a community to help, educate, and hopefully steer them away from malfeasance and towards being a legit business, like the rest of the WTN. That's a win-win. I'm sure you'll agree. Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠-Poker, Sports, Casino, Dice, Affiliates *UNCENSORED THREAD* Post by: TwitchySeal on September 21, 2016, 10:17:17 PM I can confirm Darkdays explanation.
I believe chat mod/site pro plo8monster said it was "due to a few bad apples" or something similiar. He was referring to players dumping fraudulent funds (likely related to credit card deposits) to Betcoin accounts for easy cashouts. Standard Betcoin mentality though if their system is exploited, blame those 'bad apples' who exploited it instead of the exploitable system Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠-Poker, Sports, Casino, Dice, Affiliates *UNCENSORED THREAD* Post by: TwitchySeal on September 22, 2016, 02:59:56 PM More stuff Betcoin wants to hide:
Deleted Post « Sent to: TwitchySeal on: Today at 10:46:19 AM » Quote Are these "Vip Freerolls" the monthly ones that have been "coming soon" for at least the past 18 months? I could of missed the announcment, but it seems like you just got rid of the the "coming soon" advertisment and decided to have a few one time BTC1 freerolls without bothering to explain what happened to the "monthly" part. Here's what was advertised from March 2015 until just recently: https://i.gyazo.com/3864486b63b38ef75c1e4e9d86d24456.png Here's what the vip page says now: https://i.gyazo.com/fb9304b3a2a0c809cf762cf413d5a159.png Not making good on your promise is lame, but doing it without any sort of explanation (or apology maybe?) just makes things worse, in my opinion. Also, your VIP page states that players are entitled to 5 status points for every "1 chip bet" while playing poker. That would make achieving VIP levels much easier. It would also be very easy to exploit. I doubt it matters though since it's probably just another mistake. Currently on https://www.betcoin.ag/vip: https://i.gyazo.com/6f5b12a773748c5f18802fd957e07309.png Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠-Poker, Sports, Casino, Dice, Affiliates *UNCENSORED THREAD* Post by: TwitchySeal on September 22, 2016, 05:02:15 PM More Betcoin Gems. Can't make this up.
"No Spam" means "We will delete whatever we want without explanation" Could you define exactly what you mean by "No spam"? That would be appreciated. Hi DarkStar, great question. No spam means generally if a post is deleted, don't post it or something like it again. This by no means is the final and only definition as we are new to this. We were advised to proceed this way as there are a few people who just can't resist spamming in our threads. We started to receive too many complaints from our great players about the spam and the feedback since the change has been great. Thanks."Players that hate our site is an indicator of our success" Haters As A Leading Indicator Of Success by Matt Asay Through the years Betcoin and all successful businesses have had their share of "haters", but we have always believed "haters" are an indicator of business success. Following is an article by Matt Asay explaining why. Enjoy! The following article is repeated in its entiriety with a link for reference at the bottom. The only thing worse than dealing with haters of your company or product is not having any at all. The product without haters is destined for ignominy and failure. In fact, I’d go so far as to say that your product’s success is positively correlated with the volume of venom directed at it. But first, let’s define a “hater.” There’s valid criticism, and then there’s hate. A hater, according to Urban Dictionary, feasts upon schadenfreude: “A person that simply cannot be happy for another person’s success. So rather than be happy they make a point of exposing a flaw in that person.” Jealousy factors heavily into a hater’s temperament. Yes, jealousy. After all, no one hates a loser. That company with 1% market share? No one bothers to expend energy trashing it. Not seriously, anyway. No, haters reserve their hate for the winners. It’s Good To Be Hated Don’t believe me? Let’s look at some outsized winners, like Apple. Apple’s market share may be sliding in both smartphones and tablets, in part because the market is growing around it, but Apple still commands profits (and revenues) that every company on the planet envies. It also commands disproportionate attention from haters. Social Mention pegs Apple’s love-to-hate ratio at 2-1. Motherhood and apple pie? 7-1. (You can find similar results using Twendz or Amplicate, whose data indicates that 44% hate Apple and a massive 68% hate the iPhone. All to the tune of $137 billion in the bank. How about Microsoft? Haters have targeted it for years, including me. (Incidentally, I don’t consider myself a hater, but that’s beside the point: “hate” in this definition is what we do, not necessarily who we are. And I’ve written some serious broadsides against Microsoft for its early bullying of open source.) How much is Microsoft hated? Amplicate details a 63% hate rate against Windows, 69% against the company, and a whopping 89% against Internet Explorer. Social Mention (3:1 love-to-hate ratio) and Twendz reveal similar data. And yet Microsoft still manages to earn over $72 billion in revenue, with a “paltry” $68 billion in the bank. The list goes on. MySQL? It was once pilloried as a database that lost data, performed poorly, etc. Now it’s the third-most popular database in the world. Linux? Microsoft system administrators used to ridicule its security, performance, and most everything else. Now it owns 21% of the server market and keeps growing as it is the default OS for cloud, Big Data, and other emerging trends. Facebook was lambasted for not groking mobile, even as mobile has grown in two quarters from 14% to 23% of the company’s billion-dollar quarters. Responding To The Haters I could go on, but you get the point: haters are actually leading indicators of success. The more vociferous your haters, the more likely that you’re doing something right, and it’s driving them insane. Bonus points if you can claim a Twitter spoof account, as Apple once could thanks to @FakeSteveJobs/@RealDanLyons. No one bothers to parody a losing company or product, as no one would get the joke. This is not to suggest that you should ignore valid criticism, but rather to take it in stride and answer with product improvements, as each of the companies noted above has done. Even bile-fueled hate can be instructive, after all, so the key is to learn from it without becoming consumed by it. While it’s hard to resist responding, don’t. Doing so simply legitimizes the hater and amplifies their voice, as you almost certainly have more distribution than they do. I once heard wise counsel about someone criticized in a local newspaper. When they wanted to respond, they were told, “Don’t. Half the people in town don’t get that paper. Half that do won’t have read the article in question. Half of those who read it won’t believe it. And half that read and believe it simply won’t care.” Content on the Internet has an exceptionally short shelf-life. Don’t respond. Let it die. The best response is always by delivering on your product, as PDA CTO Eliot Murphy intimates. The Only Thing Worse Than Having Haters… Again, in our hyper-connected world it’s simply impossible to succeed without accumulating haters along the way. They indicate you’re doing something right, as SpringSource founder Rod Johnson suggests: In other words, it’s far better to have a popular but feverishly hated product than a Milque Toast product that no one can be bothered to criticize, as forum traffic on Oracle (Market cap: $164B), SAP ($94B), and CA ($11B) illustrates. None of which is to suggest that everyone criticizes your product is a mindless hater and should be ignored. Far from it. But when haters start congregating around your product, listen to their criticism, evaluate its merits, don’t respond, continually improve your product, and be very, very grateful that you have haters. After all, most companies have few to no haters at all. Pity them. Matt absolutely nailed it with this article and though we are nowhere close to the level of the esteemed companies mentioned in this article, we will work hard to be the very best we can be. What are your thoughts? https://www.betcoin.ag/haters-leading-indicator-success-matt-asay http://readwrite.com/2013/02/25/haters-as-a-leading-indicator-of-success/ I wonder if Betcoin is aware of the most hated online poker sites over the past decade (and where they are now). Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠-Poker, Sports, Casino, Dice, Affiliates *UNCENSORED THREAD* Post by: DarkStar_ on September 23, 2016, 06:22:14 PM Finally my post got deleted. Took them so long, longer than I expected. Was a legitimate question though, so the only reason it was deleted would be that they can't answer honestly without losing their reputation even more.
Quote from: Bitcoin Forum A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by the starter of a self-moderated topic. There are no rules of self-moderation, so this deletion cannot be appealed. Do not continue posting in this topic if the topic-starter has requested that you leave. You can create a new topic if you are unsatisfied with this one. If the topic-starter is scamming, post about it in Scam Accusations. Quote Could you define exactly what you mean by "No spam"? That would be appreciated. Hi DarkStar, great question. No spam means generally if a post is deleted, don't post it or something like it again. This by no means is the final and only definition as we are new to this. We were advised to proceed this way as there are a few people who just can't resist spamming in our threads. We started to receive too many complaints from our great players about the spam and the feedback since the change has been great. Thanks. I wish we could give you a precise definition, but we encourage you to ask "your rights" and never mind being "annoyed" as you state. We also listen and hear all feedback and are consistently making improvements. Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠-Poker, Sports, Casino, Dice, Affiliates *UNCENSORED THREAD* Post by: TwitchySeal on September 23, 2016, 07:29:17 PM https://archive.is/UEfmd
Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠-Poker, Sports, Casino, Dice, Affiliates *UNCENSORED THREAD* Post by: game-protect on September 23, 2016, 08:22:02 PM Betcoin.ag posted an article about "Haters As A Leading Indicator Of Success by Matt Asay" and asked me what I think. My thoughts were who hate them and how and asked them "Who hates you and how?"
They deleted my question and as my question could be never considered as spam, this clearly shows that their self-moderated threads are nothing but censorship threads! Define what kinds of posts will be deleted (expecting this one to be). I was asking what counts as spam to be deleted, but you completely dodged my question (apologies if you interpreted it differently) They will delete whatever they like and this has nothing to do with whether it is spam or not. Censorship is the keyword, not spam. Title: Re: ♠ BETCOIN.AG ♠ OFFICIAL THREAD-The Poker Sports Casino Community♠♠♠UNCENSORED♠♠♠ Post by: StanDMX114 on September 25, 2016, 03:46:59 AM DONT ASK WHAT OUR THOUGHTS ARE IF U DONT WANT IT TO BE POSTED IN YOUR THREAD Quote Quote A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by the starter of a self-moderated topic. There are no rules of self-moderation, so this deletion cannot be appealed. Haters As A Leading Indicator Of Success by Matt Asay [...snip...] What are your thoughts? I guess as the saying goes, if you have lemons you might as well make lemonade. While I do agree that certainly every successful business will attract haters, I would avoid doing business with any of them that are proud of it. As I know if I had any legitimate grievance, it'd be pretty easily to just dismiss me as a hater. And for what it's worth, companies that have a track record of being proud of being hated haven't lasted very long. I remember dadice continually boasting that the haters and controversy was great for it's business. It even stole money from some of its fauceting players to fan the flames of controversy. While maybe it temporarily increased their hit count, they didn't last very long.. Have a read through the article again as it points out legitimate grievances and concerns should be addressed. We also listen to everything and make adjustments and improvements accordingly. We know we have a long way to go but we have come a long way and we are continually improving and appreciate all of the constructive feedback. We know it's a part of business and will always be. When you have people that dedicate time in their day to your business everyday there is something special there and we are thankful. Excellent comment RHavar. I think Betcoin found this blog post from 4 years ago when trying to come up with explanation for why they have bad trust and only self-mod thread. Betcoin deletes posts if they hate them. They are small site still afte opening years ago. Apple and Microsoft are not like betcoin and Jealousy is not the problem either. Quote But first, let’s define a “hater.” There’s valid criticism, and then there’s hate. A hater, according to Urban Dictionary, feasts upon schadenfreude: “A person that simply cannot be happy for another person’s success. So rather than be happy they make a point of exposing a flaw in that person.” Jealousy factors heavily into a hater’s temperament. Yes, jealousy. After all, no one hates a loser. That company with 1% market share? No one bothers to expend energy trashing it. Not seriously, anyway. No, haters reserve their hate for the winners. Urban Dictionary Definition: hater Overused word that people like to use just because someone else expresses a dislike for a certain individual. PERSON 1: I don't like Beyonce's new song. PERSON 2: You're a hater!!! Title: Re: ♠ BETCOIN.AG ♠ OFFICIAL THREAD-The Poker Sports Casino Community♠♠♠UNCENSORED♠♠♠ Post by: game-protect on October 06, 2016, 02:04:38 AM Why you don't have Spins/Jackpot SNGs? As part of WPN network? This is currently in development and has taken longer than expected to implement, however we hope to have an announcement on this in short time. Thank you for your question. Betcoin.ag is no partner of the WPN and join the tournaments through the WTN! http://www.winningpokernetwork.com/partners/ Title: Re: ♠ BETCOIN.AG ♠ OFFICIAL THREAD-The Poker Sports Casino Community♠♠♠UNCENSORED♠♠♠ Post by: TwitchySeal on October 06, 2016, 02:17:36 AM Why you don't have Spins/Jackpot SNGs? As part of WPN network? This is currently in development and has taken longer than expected to implement, however we hope to have an announcement on this in short time. Thank you for your question. Betcoin.ag is no partner of the WPN and join the tournaments through the WTN! http://www.winningpokernetwork.com/partners/ Indeed. I also doubt they will ever get Jackpot Sngs for the same reason they don't have regular sngs, or cash games. Their response is never an indication of reality, either way. (ask for any feature that sounds like a good idea, they will say "it's already in the works" ) Title: Re: ♠ BETCOIN.AG ♠ OFFICIAL THREAD-The Poker Sports Casino Community♠♠♠UNCENSORED♠♠♠ Post by: DarkDays on October 06, 2016, 03:48:14 AM Indeed. I also doubt they will ever get Jackpot Sngs for the same reason they don't have regular sngs, or cash games. Their response is never an indication of reality, either way. (ask for any feature that sounds like a good idea, they will say "it's already in the works" ) This got me thinking: Why? Think about it...they already have integrated the WTN software into their client. Every other WTN partner has integrated jackpots into their software. We know why they haven't integrated WPN cash games (they aren't allowed and if they were allowed they wouldn't see the value in it as they'd lose money due to promo overlay and beast contribution). We know why they haven't integrated WPN SNGs (they won't increase their security to prevent chip dumping/money laundering and would be fully on the hook if it happens again). But why not jackpots? It's not a money laundering/chip dumping spot because it's three handed and doesn't run at high stakes. It's not a promo consideration because the rake is so low. It WOULD add money to their pocket because there are tons of regs who would play it. So it's got to be a liquidity issue. In the jackpots, the sites that participate share the profits BUT ALSO THE RISK! If a 25k gets it, and there are two ACR players and one BCP player playing, ACR has to contribute 16.6k and BCP has to contribute 8.3k. That way it's fair for all participating skins. This is different from when a Betcoin player wins big in a WTN MTT, because WTN reimburses Betcoin right away so Betcoin is never 'out' any money. In this situation, Betcoin would have to take a potential long term loss if one of it's players hits a large jackpot multiplier early on. It's very very very likely that WTN asks all skins participating in jackpots to put a certain amount of money into escrow with it "just in case"...I'm betting that Betcoin doesn't have that money to invest. And THAT'S why we aren't seeing the games. Because they are broke. It's the only logical conclusion. Title: Re: ♠ BETCOIN.AG ♠ OFFICIAL THREAD-The Poker Sports Casino Community♠♠♠UNCENSORED♠♠♠ Post by: TwitchySeal on October 07, 2016, 06:52:57 AM Indeed. I also doubt they will ever get Jackpot Sngs for the same reason they don't have regular sngs, or cash games. Their response is never an indication of reality, either way. (ask for any feature that sounds like a good idea, they will say "it's already in the works" ) This got me thinking: Why? Think about it...they already have integrated the WTN software into their client. Every other WTN partner has integrated jackpots into their software. We know why they haven't integrated WPN cash games (they aren't allowed and if they were allowed they wouldn't see the value in it as they'd lose money due to promo overlay and beast contribution). We know why they haven't integrated WPN SNGs (they won't increase their security to prevent chip dumping/money laundering and would be fully on the hook if it happens again). But why not jackpots? It's not a money laundering/chip dumping spot because it's three handed and doesn't run at high stakes. It's not a promo consideration because the rake is so low. It WOULD add money to their pocket because there are tons of regs who would play it. So it's got to be a liquidity issue. In the jackpots, the sites that participate share the profits BUT ALSO THE RISK! If a 25k gets it, and there are two ACR players and one BCP player playing, ACR has to contribute 16.6k and BCP has to contribute 8.3k. That way it's fair for all participating skins. This is different from when a Betcoin player wins big in a WTN MTT, because WTN reimburses Betcoin right away so Betcoin is never 'out' any money. In this situation, Betcoin would have to take a potential long term loss if one of it's players hits a large jackpot multiplier early on. It's very very very likely that WTN asks all skins participating in jackpots to put a certain amount of money into escrow with it "just in case"...I'm betting that Betcoin doesn't have that money to invest. And THAT'S why we aren't seeing the games. Because they are broke. It's the only logical conclusion. I think Jackpot Sngs would be one of the easiest ways to get away with dumping funds quickly. Sure, you might lose 2 buyins 1/3 of the time, dump the chips the wrong way or get stuck playing against the wrong 2 people once in a while, but they are quick and go up to $60 buyins sometimes. I don't follow why WPN would need any escrow of funds. Title: Re: ♠ BETCOIN.AG ♠ OFFICIAL THREAD-The Poker Sports Casino Community♠♠♠UNCENSORED♠♠♠ Post by: DarkDays on October 07, 2016, 06:57:02 PM I don't follow why WPN would need any escrow of funds. Because unlike any other tournament of SNG, the rake isn't immediate, it's long-term. The sites only 'win' on one multiplier (the smallest one), on all others the sites lose. While it's likely that the sites will "win" every day, it's not definite, especially if one skin is very low volume. Asking for the skins to escrow is WPN's way of protecting itself so that it's not on the hook for a 50k payment. Title: Re: ♠ BETCOIN.AG ♠ OFFICIAL THREAD-The Poker Sports Casino Community♠♠♠UNCENSORED♠♠♠ Post by: TwitchySeal on October 14, 2016, 11:35:54 PM I don't follow why WPN would need any escrow of funds. Because unlike any other tournament of SNG, the rake isn't immediate, it's long-term. The sites only 'win' on one multiplier (the smallest one), on all others the sites lose. While it's likely that the sites will "win" every day, it's not definite, especially if one skin is very low volume. Asking for the skins to escrow is WPN's way of protecting itself so that it's not on the hook for a 50k payment. I have to disagree with you for two reasons. - The only thing establishing a spin n go escrow would do is reduce variance for WPN - this would only be an issue if they were in serious financial trouble. Also, the more spin n gos that are played the lower their overall variance is - so not allowing a site would actually do the opposite of the whole reason escrow is needed (weird to think about). - Betcoin players make up well under 1% of the WPN/WTN player pool and if I had to guess, I would say the ave Betcoin player bankroll is much smaller than the ave of the entire network. The top spin n go reward $150k (usually only 100k, but 150k during $60 jackpot plo promo). So even a reasonable escrow request wouldn't be that much if they did it based on player share. I think it would make much more sense to just pay Betcoin a fee based on a cut of the House Edge (I think 5 or 6%). I also think those $60 plo jackpot sngs have got to be the easiest way to launder $500-$1k a day colluding without being detected, which is why I don't think we'll be seeing them on Betcoin ever. Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: Beefheart on October 16, 2016, 10:25:23 PM never have I ever... won the "50GTD/1 chip R/A" today, and was told I would be paid, "either tomorrow or the next day" by support... WTF kind of poker room can't/doesn't pay you after a tourney cash... we'he taking about 24.4mBTC... you can't pay a $14.50 win?? LOL
Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: TwitchySeal on October 16, 2016, 10:36:31 PM Never have I ever...
Had my account unbanned and reset to bronze III the day of the last gold freeroll (cool troll), the next day I had one chip sent to it from management and they also restored my gold VIP status, a day or two later it was banned again. Oh wait yes i have! How does this game work again? Prior to that I was banned since the day after Jasonort started the thread about Glamlife jackpot. This was the last thing they said to me: Betcoin Andrew: Our casino providers do an excellent job and are used by the top online casinos. We cannot have those type of comments about them in the forum as they are constantly reviewing our website. *** Betcoin Andrew left the chat *** Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: DarkDays on October 17, 2016, 04:20:28 AM I'm getting reports that Betcoin isn't automatically paying out any of their MTTs now, in addition to persistent lengthy delays in tier rakeback.
THIS IS A VERY BAD SIGN If you have money on there, you should seriously consider pulling all of it off before the situation gets worse and there is a "run on the bank". When the writing is on the wall, these anonymous hucksters will just cut and run. Don't let it be with your money. Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: pokemanvanish on October 17, 2016, 06:12:35 AM I'm getting reports that Betcoin isn't automatically paying out any of their MTTs now, in addition to persistent lengthy delays in tier rakeback. THIS IS A VERY BAD SIGN If you have money on there, you should seriously consider pulling all of it off before the situation gets worse and there is a "run on the bank". When the writing is on the wall, these anonymous hucksters will just cut and run. Don't let it be with your money. So they delay to pay the money wins in the tourneys? Damn it is serious issue,i have long time no play there. Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: game-protect on October 17, 2016, 06:48:36 PM So they delay to pay the money wins in the tourneys? Damn it is serious issue,i have long time no play there. Do those who kowingly deposited to a public proven scam really care about to receive their money? I do not think so = no serious issue for them. Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: NiceSoft12 on October 18, 2016, 03:15:50 AM Lol so much FUD in this thread from the trolls i doubt they would do all this hard work like providing a mac software then scam everyone lol.
Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: TwitchySeal on October 18, 2016, 03:18:36 AM Lol so much FUD in this thread from the trolls i doubt they would do all this hard work like providing a mac software then scam everyone lol. Who is they?You don't think Betcoin has anything to do with the mac client release...do you? Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: DarkDays on October 18, 2016, 09:34:05 PM Lol so much FUD in this thread from the trolls i doubt they would do all this hard work like providing a mac software then scam everyone lol. Please choose any "FUD" you disagree with and provide some facts that speak to the contrary. But we know you aren't going to do that because shills gonna shill amiright? Also the fact that you don't understand how software providers work speaks to the ignorance of the typical Betcoin Shill. On topic: I've read that Betcoin is now taking money out of people's accounts because of "errors" encountered when they weren't paying out their tournaments. Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: Ryan Dugan on October 18, 2016, 10:58:42 PM I think you should have paid that guy that won with a free roll. The odds to get it are not high it
Will be a one time in your lifetime . Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: marlais on October 18, 2016, 11:02:32 PM Betcoin deleted my post from their thread, so I'm reposting it here. Looks like all it takes to "spam" their thread now is a single post.
=========================== I know I could open a ticket, but my last two were never responded to so not confident in the process. I have opened a ticket, but thought the community should be made aware of the situation (as I have NEVER encountered this in many years of online poker)... it's called transparency, and shows integrity. We absolutely love that you enjoy playing at Betcoin so much and spending so much time at Betcoin. We however are not a big fan of the spam but understand that it comes with creating something that people enjoy spending time at. We immediately are always suspect when someone states that a ticket was not responded to and we ask the players login name and they don't give it. You had one previous ticket that was answered in fact very quickly. Once we saw this statement "two tickets were never responded to" and confirmed you only had one ticket which was responded to quickly, we knew we had someone who wasn't telling the truth and when that person then says "transparency and integrity" we know exactly who that player is. We confirmed it using other factors as well. You should play with your main account as you have gained some valuable status points and we now have better ways to filter spam. Clearly you enjoy playing at Betcoin and we really don't want to take that away from you ever. We appreciate all the time you spend at Betcoin, but we kindly ask that you please stop spamming our thread. Thank you and good luck at Betcoin.ag! I'm rather confused about what constitutes "spamming" the thread. It looks like you quoted two posts made 5 days apart about issues that are pertinent to playing on your site as proof of spamming, and then immediately accuse the OP of dishonesty/lying over what could have been a legitimate misunderstanding? Could you please explain what you consider "spamming our thread" in more detail? I have always seen "spamming" used in the context of creating a massive amount of irrelevant posts/e-mails in quick succession with the intent of drowning out legitimate conversation, but that doesn't seem to be the case here. If you are concerned about spam in your thread, you may want to consider resizing or eliminating the gigantic images (e.g., the magnifying glass with the bug) that don't add any information to your posts and dilute the content of the thread, because by the time you have scrolled down past the image, you can't see any of the text or posts above the image. Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: gadman2 on October 19, 2016, 01:05:38 AM It's probably some security hole on my end but I had about 0.003 btc taken from my betcoin account. The email was sent to confirm and somehow it was confirmed without me clicking it. My email is secure so I feel there's something else going on here.
Quote Xolr, A withdrawal request has been initiated from your account with the following details: Send Currency: btc Send Amount: 0.00098000 Send Address: 1BSkZ4tFJDxqeuEuZzSoEwFupbvNgucNkU If all the information above is correct please click the link below to confirm this withdrawal: https://www.betcoin.ag/authenticate?token=APX8WYvzbYRmYbc86ex7ujPezkpFHCnQ&hash=02b0001915b594f636f4f700812561f7 If you did not request a withdrawal please respond: Not Confirmed Then 8 minutes later: Quote Xolr, Your withdrawal for 0.00177000 btc has been sent to 0.00177000 1BSkZ4tFJDxqeuEuZzSoEwFupbvNgucNkU. There was an additional withdraw confirm of 0.0003 btc without a request so I don't know. I wasn't even aware of the funds on the account so it's not much of a bother to me. Futhermore I also got some notifications from localbitcoins about a password attempt and 2fa cancelation request was initiated but I canceled it. Dunno, any insight would be appreciated. I'm not worried about the funds though. Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: DarkDays on October 19, 2016, 02:29:39 AM It's probably some security hole on my end but I had about 0.003 btc taken from my betcoin account. The email was sent to confirm and somehow it was confirmed without me clicking it. My email is secure so I feel there's something else going on here. Quote Xolr, A withdrawal request has been initiated from your account with the following details: Send Currency: btc Send Amount: 0.00098000 Send Address: 1BSkZ4tFJDxqeuEuZzSoEwFupbvNgucNkU If all the information above is correct please click the link below to confirm this withdrawal: https://www.betcoin.ag/authenticate?token=APX8WYvzbYRmYbc86ex7ujPezkpFHCnQ&hash=02b0001915b594f636f4f700812561f7 If you did not request a withdrawal please respond: Not Confirmed Then 8 minutes later: Quote Xolr, Your withdrawal for 0.00177000 btc has been sent to 0.00177000 1BSkZ4tFJDxqeuEuZzSoEwFupbvNgucNkU. There was an additional withdraw confirm of 0.0003 btc without a request so I don't know. I wasn't even aware of the funds on the account so it's not much of a bother to me. Futhermore I also got some notifications from localbitcoins about a password attempt and 2fa cancelation request was initiated but I canceled it. Dunno, any insight would be appreciated. I'm not worried about the funds though. How long had it been since you logged into your account? It's possible that they are stealing 'dormant' customer funds. Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: TwitchySeal on October 19, 2016, 02:32:36 AM It's probably some security hole on my end but I had about 0.003 btc taken from my betcoin account. The email was sent to confirm and somehow it was confirmed without me clicking it. My email is secure so I feel there's something else going on here. Quote Xolr, A withdrawal request has been initiated from your account with the following details: Send Currency: btc Send Amount: 0.00098000 Send Address: 1BSkZ4tFJDxqeuEuZzSoEwFupbvNgucNkU If all the information above is correct please click the link below to confirm this withdrawal: https://www.betcoin.ag/authenticate?token=APX8WYvzbYRmYbc86ex7ujPezkpFHCnQ&hash=02b0001915b594f636f4f700812561f7 If you did not request a withdrawal please respond: Not Confirmed Then 8 minutes later: Quote Xolr, Your withdrawal for 0.00177000 btc has been sent to 0.00177000 1BSkZ4tFJDxqeuEuZzSoEwFupbvNgucNkU. There was an additional withdraw confirm of 0.0003 btc without a request so I don't know. I wasn't even aware of the funds on the account so it's not much of a bother to me. Futhermore I also got some notifications from localbitcoins about a password attempt and 2fa cancelation request was initiated but I canceled it. Dunno, any insight would be appreciated. I'm not worried about the funds though. How long had it been since you logged into your account? It's possible that they are stealing 'dormant' customer funds. How much was in your account? Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: TwitchySeal on October 19, 2016, 02:44:35 AM Betcoin announced more vip freerolls:
Quote 1) 06, November 2016 - The Bronze II 500 mbtc Freeroll at 15:00 EST - All players VIP Bronze II level and higher will receive a ticket to this tournament 2) 13, November 2016 - The Silver III 1,000 mbtc Freeroll at 15:00 EST - All players VIP Silver III and higher will receive a ticket to this tournament 3) 20, November 2016 - The Gold III 1,500 mbtc Freeroll at 15:00 EST - All players VIP Gold III and higher will receive a ticket to this tournament. Ignoring questions on if they are monthly, why gold got reduced, and what about Emerald+ players: "Monthly 25 BTC Master Freeroll Daily Master Surprise Box" "Monthly 10 BTC Diamond Freeroll Daily Diamond Surprise Box" "Monthly 5 BTC Ruby Freeroll Daily Ruby Surprise Box" "Monthly 3 BTC Emerald Freeroll Daily Emerald Surprise Box" "Monthly 2 BTC Gold Freeroll Daily Gold Surprise Box" "Monthly 1 BTC Silver Freeroll Daily Silver Surprise Box" https://www.betcoin.ag/vip-players-club-1 Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: gadman2 on October 19, 2016, 03:02:50 AM It's probably some security hole on my end but I had about 0.003 btc taken from my betcoin account. The email was sent to confirm and somehow it was confirmed without me clicking it. My email is secure so I feel there's something else going on here. Quote Xolr, A withdrawal request has been initiated from your account with the following details: Send Currency: btc Send Amount: 0.00098000 Send Address: 1BSkZ4tFJDxqeuEuZzSoEwFupbvNgucNkU If all the information above is correct please click the link below to confirm this withdrawal: https://www.betcoin.ag/authenticate?token=APX8WYvzbYRmYbc86ex7ujPezkpFHCnQ&hash=02b0001915b594f636f4f700812561f7 If you did not request a withdrawal please respond: Not Confirmed Then 8 minutes later: Quote Xolr, Your withdrawal for 0.00177000 btc has been sent to 0.00177000 1BSkZ4tFJDxqeuEuZzSoEwFupbvNgucNkU. There was an additional withdraw confirm of 0.0003 btc without a request so I don't know. I wasn't even aware of the funds on the account so it's not much of a bother to me. Futhermore I also got some notifications from localbitcoins about a password attempt and 2fa cancelation request was initiated but I canceled it. Dunno, any insight would be appreciated. I'm not worried about the funds though. How long had it been since you logged into your account? It's possible that they are stealing 'dormant' customer funds. How much was in your account? I'm not even sure what's in there or if there's any left. There was 0.00177 and 0.0003 withdrawn. Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: actmyname on October 19, 2016, 03:25:43 AM I'm not even sure what's in there or if there's any left. There was 0.00177 and 0.0003 withdrawn. What did you use for Betcoin registration that's the same with your localbitcoins account? (Email, password, username)? It may have been a security leak, either from a third-party source, or in the worst case, Betcoin, attempting to quite simply scam user information before anything is done on the main site itself. After all, the announcement of the VIP freerolls would increase volume (potentially anyway) so it's the perfect time to start the exit scam. Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: game-protect on October 19, 2016, 03:26:36 AM Betcoin announced more vip freerolls: Quote 1) 06, November 2016 - The Bronze II 500 mbtc Freeroll at 15:00 EST - All players VIP Bronze II level and higher will receive a ticket to this tournament 2) 13, November 2016 - The Silver III 1,000 mbtc Freeroll at 15:00 EST - All players VIP Silver III and higher will receive a ticket to this tournament 3) 20, November 2016 - The Gold III 1,500 mbtc Freeroll at 15:00 EST - All players VIP Gold III and higher will receive a ticket to this tournament. Ignoring questions on if they are monthly, why gold got reduced, and what about Emerald+ players: "Monthly 25 BTC Master Freeroll Daily Master Surprise Box" "Monthly 10 BTC Diamond Freeroll Daily Diamond Surprise Box" "Monthly 5 BTC Ruby Freeroll Daily Ruby Surprise Box" "Monthly 3 BTC Emerald Freeroll Daily Emerald Surprise Box" "Monthly 2 BTC Gold Freeroll Daily Gold Surprise Box" "Monthly 1 BTC Silver Freeroll Daily Silver Surprise Box" https://www.betcoin.ag/vip-players-club-1 Same empty promises = willful deception like their jackpots do not get paid! Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: DarkDays on October 19, 2016, 04:16:52 AM Betcoin announced more vip freerolls: Quote 1) 06, November 2016 - The Bronze II 500 mbtc Freeroll at 15:00 EST - All players VIP Bronze II level and higher will receive a ticket to this tournament 2) 13, November 2016 - The Silver III 1,000 mbtc Freeroll at 15:00 EST - All players VIP Silver III and higher will receive a ticket to this tournament 3) 20, November 2016 - The Gold III 1,500 mbtc Freeroll at 15:00 EST - All players VIP Gold III and higher will receive a ticket to this tournament. Ignoring questions on if they are monthly, why gold got reduced, and what about Emerald+ players: "Monthly 25 BTC Master Freeroll Daily Master Surprise Box" "Monthly 10 BTC Diamond Freeroll Daily Diamond Surprise Box" "Monthly 5 BTC Ruby Freeroll Daily Ruby Surprise Box" "Monthly 3 BTC Emerald Freeroll Daily Emerald Surprise Box" "Monthly 2 BTC Gold Freeroll Daily Gold Surprise Box" "Monthly 1 BTC Silver Freeroll Daily Silver Surprise Box" https://www.betcoin.ag/vip-players-club-1 Just a small correction: last month all three freerolls had 1BTC prizepools. This month the Bronze prize pool is 500mBTC lower and the Gold 500mBTC higher. Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: TwitchySeal on October 19, 2016, 06:16:08 AM Betcoin announced more vip freerolls: Quote 1) 06, November 2016 - The Bronze II 500 mbtc Freeroll at 15:00 EST - All players VIP Bronze II level and higher will receive a ticket to this tournament 2) 13, November 2016 - The Silver III 1,000 mbtc Freeroll at 15:00 EST - All players VIP Silver III and higher will receive a ticket to this tournament 3) 20, November 2016 - The Gold III 1,500 mbtc Freeroll at 15:00 EST - All players VIP Gold III and higher will receive a ticket to this tournament. Ignoring questions on if they are monthly, why gold got reduced, and what about Emerald+ players: "Monthly 25 BTC Master Freeroll Daily Master Surprise Box" "Monthly 10 BTC Diamond Freeroll Daily Diamond Surprise Box" "Monthly 5 BTC Ruby Freeroll Daily Ruby Surprise Box" "Monthly 3 BTC Emerald Freeroll Daily Emerald Surprise Box" "Monthly 2 BTC Gold Freeroll Daily Gold Surprise Box" "Monthly 1 BTC Silver Freeroll Daily Silver Surprise Box" https://www.betcoin.ag/vip-players-club-1 Just a small correction: last month all three freerolls had 1BTC prizepools. This month the Bronze prize pool is 500mBTC lower and the Gold 500mBTC higher. They don't even mention Bronze on that page. I think it's just a page they forgot to take down tbh. Also worth noting: They pay their sig campaign members more than twice as much Bitcoin per month than they put into these vip freerolls. Although, to be fair, their sig campaign members probably put in twice as many hours as Betcoin Players as a whole. (And there is almost no overlap) Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: DarkDays on October 19, 2016, 07:47:18 PM They pay their sig campaign members more than twice as much Bitcoin per month than they put into these vip freerolls. That should be the headline, that's insane! Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: TwitchySeal on October 21, 2016, 01:50:23 AM Another lol deleted post.
https://i.gyazo.com/fb127cd76fd359a367adf8076c3a288b.png Maybe it's true and JessicAndrew is hiding this thread and all the censored posts from the rest of staff so is looks like (s)he's doing a good job. Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: TwitchySeal on October 21, 2016, 04:05:23 PM It's funny to see them congratulate one of their sig campaign members on becoming hero status when theres so much proof that the account has been sold many times, (one notable owner being the bitcoinblackfriday scammer) and the user has at least one other hero account in the fortunejack campaign (likely several more) and makes the most thoughtless posts in the most obvious sig slut bate threads ...
Quote from: Bitcoin Forum A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by the starter of a self-moderated topic. There are no rules of self-moderation, so this deletion cannot be appealed. Quote Congratulations to all the members who ranked up this month as you will be earning even more bitcoin! Thank you all for your great posts and support. Hi everyone. Congratulations lorylore! It is a happy moment every time our participant rank up. I would also like to thank to new candidates I sent you a message. Thanks a lot. It is been my privilege to have been here since stage 1 and grew together with the betcoin community. It has been the best signature campaign i was ever in and i hope this will continue to last for years. I also wish that betcoin will have a strong and growing customers base. Deleted from sig campaign thread. Quote We are almost full but recruitment continues. New candidates can get a chance to join the queue and sometimes get a spot right away. It all depends on your activity and the quality of posts. Thank you. Hi everyone. Congratulations lorylore! It is a happy moment every time our participant rank up. I would also like to thank to new candidates I sent you a message. Hi, Perhaps you aren't aware that Lorylore is a farmed account. (it actually belonged to the guy responsible for the big bitcoinblackfriday phishing scam last year at some point) Lorylore also has another Legendary Account in the FortuneJack campaign, hua_hui (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=332981) There are others too I'm sure. I posted proof here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1236667.msg15064092#msg15064092) and also in the known Alts list. Also just look at their trust ratings. Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: TwitchySeal on October 21, 2016, 05:26:51 PM Betcoin Casino Adds 3D Slots Charms & Clovers and Great 88 Betcoin Casino is pleased to add the 3D slots Charms & Clovers and Great 88 to our casino slots lineup. CHARMS AND CLOVERS brings ancient Irish myth to life in gorgeous high definition colour! Introducing an innovative sixth reel that controls four distinct bonus features, this 40 payline game will have you searching for that fabled pot of gold time and time again! https://www.betcoin.ag/files/betcoin/images/c%26c-Pressbutton.jpg The world of GREAT 88 presents opportunities to win like never before! This gorgeous game captures the essence of a peaceful evening, brimming with exquisite Asian-inspired detail and a novel bonus system that will keep your players searching for luck and good fortune with every spin! https://www.betcoin.ag/files/betcoin/images/great88-Pressbutton.jpg Betcoin will also be bringing many of your favorite casino providers in soon as several deals are being finalized for inclusion at Betcoin! Play today at www.betcoin.ag/casino Funny, they don't mention the fact that the Irish game offers multiple progressive jackpots. Betsoft released it the same week as the "Jasonort Resolution", wonder what took them so long... Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: DarkDays on October 21, 2016, 06:50:13 PM The following statements are facts:
1. I have never posted in the Betcoin Censored thread 2. Yesterday I was curious about their slots so I asked a couple of questions 3. Instead of answering my questions, they deleted my post Here is the post in question: https://s18.postimg.org/vetprxfnd/bct.jpg Now ask yourself...WHY would they delete this? It's not spam. It's not trolling. It's questions about their product. It gave them an opportunity to brag! Why would they want this gone? Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: TwitchySeal on October 21, 2016, 07:33:10 PM ^^^They had to make room to promote their latest Betsoft progressive slot.
Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: marlais on October 21, 2016, 09:34:02 PM I've noticed that they've deleted quite a few posts in the last 24 hours or so according to my instant e-mail notifications of new posts. Is it possible to have a thread that mirrors the content of the moderated Betcoin thread that includes all posts, maybe with the posts that they delete highlighted in red? I think it's interesting to see the posts they delete in the context of the original thread.
Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: TwitchySeal on October 21, 2016, 09:57:47 PM I've noticed that they've deleted quite a few posts in the last 24 hours or so according to my instant e-mail notifications of new posts. Is it possible to have a thread that mirrors the content of the moderated Betcoin thread that includes all posts, maybe with the posts that they delete highlighted in red? I think it's interesting to see the posts they delete in the context of the original thread. I'm trying to keep up with a list in OP, not sure, probably not possible to get what youre asking for. Would be nice though. Let me know what I miss guys: CENSORED POSTS: Submit anything Betcoin has deleted from any of their threads on this forum or their own.
Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: neochiny on October 21, 2016, 10:42:20 PM The following statements are facts: 1. I have never posted in the Betcoin Censored thread 2. Yesterday I was curious about their slots so I asked a couple of questions 3. Instead of answering my questions, they deleted my post Here is the post in question: https://s18.postimg.org/vetprxfnd/bct.jpg Now ask yourself...WHY would they delete this? It's not spam. It's not trolling. It's questions about their product. It gave them an opportunity to brag! Why would they want this gone? Interesting. Well, they're probably leery whenever the topic "jackpot" arises. They'll just automatically assume it's a prelude to an attack of some sort. Anyway, I would think that most players would stay clear of sites with such serious issues like these, be it jackpots/payments/support. Not to mention the presence of a 'self-moderated' thread itself. I mean, why would one even need a 'self-moderated' thread, if they're not hiding anything. The mere fact that they just delete anything they don't like says a lot on how they operate. Tsk. Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: TwitchySeal on October 22, 2016, 05:08:38 PM The following links were sent to me anonymously. I don't have a full understanding of of what's going on or how serious this issue is:
Quote Phishers using CloudFlare for SSL From https://news.netcraft.com/archives/2013/10/07/phishers-using-cloudflare-for-ssl.htmlSome Content Delivery Networks (CDNs) enable fraudsters to deploy phishing attacks with valid SSL certificates. Not only does this make the fraudulent sites appear more credible, but they also benefit from the fast response times provided by the CDN. Quote CloudFlare's half-baked SSL: suspicious sockets layer From http://crimeflare.net:82/cfssl.htmlWe were inspired to collect the data on this page after reading this report: Phishers using CloudFlare for SSL. Also see this technical analysis (PDF, 545 KB) on the use of SSL by CloudFlare and similar services. The CloudFlare certificates we found all had the common name in the same style as the "ssl2796.cloudflare.com" -snip- We compiled this list by attempting a handshake with the CloudFlare domains in our database. With an older version of OpenSSL on port 443, our handshake fails if the certificate uses SNI. CloudFlare's use of SNI is for "universal" SSL, and is available on free accounts. The "standard" certificates we want mean that the domain has a paid account at CloudFlare. These make up about five percent of the domains that use CloudFlare, according to news reports. It's all a marketing effort anyway, whether paid or free. There is no such thing as "secure" SSL when you have potential Men-In-The-Middle at scores of data centers around the world. Local authorities could be sniffing the plaintext available at these data centers, and CloudFlare wouldn't have a clue. Code: betcoin.ag 367617 I couldn't find any other bitcoin casinos that I've heard of on the list. Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: Beefheart on October 22, 2016, 05:14:44 PM The following links were sent to me anonymously. I don't have a full understanding of of what's going on or how serious this issue is: Quote Phishers using CloudFlare for SSL From https://news.netcraft.com/archives/2013/10/07/phishers-using-cloudflare-for-ssl.htmlSome Content Delivery Networks (CDNs) enable fraudsters to deploy phishing attacks with valid SSL certificates. Not only does this make the fraudulent sites appear more credible, but they also benefit from the fast response times provided by the CDN. Quote CloudFlare's half-baked SSL: suspicious sockets layer From http://crimeflare.net:82/cfssl.htmlWe were inspired to collect the data on this page after reading this report: Phishers using CloudFlare for SSL. Also see this technical analysis (PDF, 545 KB) on the use of SSL by CloudFlare and similar services. The CloudFlare certificates we found all had the common name in the same style as the "ssl2796.cloudflare.com" -snip- We compiled this list by attempting a handshake with the CloudFlare domains in our database. With an older version of OpenSSL on port 443, our handshake fails if the certificate uses SNI. CloudFlare's use of SNI is for "universal" SSL, and is available on free accounts. The "standard" certificates we want mean that the domain has a paid account at CloudFlare. These make up about five percent of the domains that use CloudFlare, according to news reports. It's all a marketing effort anyway, whether paid or free. There is no such thing as "secure" SSL when you have potential Men-In-The-Middle at scores of data centers around the world. Local authorities could be sniffing the plaintext available at these data centers, and CloudFlare wouldn't have a clue. Code: betcoin.ag 367617 I couldn't find any other bitcoin casinos that I've heard of on the list. as a layman, what are you saying? LOL Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: game-protect on October 22, 2016, 08:29:18 PM I've noticed that they've deleted quite a few posts in the last 24 hours or so according to my instant e-mail notifications of new posts. Is it possible to have a thread that mirrors the content of the moderated Betcoin thread that includes all posts, maybe with the posts that they delete highlighted in red? I think it's interesting to see the posts they delete in the context of the original thread. When you post in their censorship threads, make a copy. If they delete it, post it here again. People were confused and asked the betcoin.ag censorship threads mods what they consider as spam and what not, but there is a fundamental misunderstood: Their censorship threads were created to mislead the public and delete critical content and not to avoid spam! Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: DarkStar_ on October 22, 2016, 11:14:05 PM I've noticed that they've deleted quite a few posts in the last 24 hours or so according to my instant e-mail notifications of new posts. Is it possible to have a thread that mirrors the content of the moderated Betcoin thread that includes all posts, maybe with the posts that they delete highlighted in red? I think it's interesting to see the posts they delete in the context of the original thread. I agree as well - it would be a very interesting read. I don't think there is a way to do it directly on bitcointalk.org, but if someone is interested and is a developer, they can write a script that scrapes the betcoin thread every x minutes, and if it sees a post, posts it on here (or another thread) with the context as a quote. Does the email notification tell you the post contents?Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: marlais on October 22, 2016, 11:30:39 PM I've noticed that they've deleted quite a few posts in the last 24 hours or so according to my instant e-mail notifications of new posts. Is it possible to have a thread that mirrors the content of the moderated Betcoin thread that includes all posts, maybe with the posts that they delete highlighted in red? I think it's interesting to see the posts they delete in the context of the original thread. I agree as well - it would be a very interesting read. I don't think there is a way to do it directly on bitcointalk.org, but if someone is interested and is a developer, they can write a script that scrapes the betcoin thread every x minutes, and if it sees a post, posts it on here (or another thread) with the context as a quote. Does the email notification tell you the post contents?It does tell you the post contents but doesn't use the same formatting markup as in the original post, which makes it a little confusing to read. Here is an example of an e-mail notification for a post they deleted where StanDMX114 was replying to royalpalm saying that when TwitchySeal had brought up the same status point issue earlier, they deleted his post without addressing the issue. Quote A reply has been posted to a topic you are watching by StanDMX114. View the reply at: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1616139.new;topicseen#new Unsubscribe to this topic by clicking here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=notify;topic=1616139.0 The text of the reply is shown below: Quote from: royalpalm on Today at 06:13:04 AM Poker 1 CHIP BET = 5 Status Points Poker Ring Games 1 CHIP RAKE = 5 Status Points Why there are different poker structure? one is chip Bet, one is chip Rake? https://www.betcoin.ag/vip They just deleted it last time someone asked about that https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1616152.msg16330786#msg16330786 Regards, The Bitcoin Forum Team. Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: marlais on October 22, 2016, 11:46:51 PM The following links were sent to me anonymously. I don't have a full understanding of of what's going on or how serious this issue is: Quote Phishers using CloudFlare for SSL From https://news.netcraft.com/archives/2013/10/07/phishers-using-cloudflare-for-ssl.htmlSome Content Delivery Networks (CDNs) enable fraudsters to deploy phishing attacks with valid SSL certificates. Not only does this make the fraudulent sites appear more credible, but they also benefit from the fast response times provided by the CDN. Quote CloudFlare's half-baked SSL: suspicious sockets layer From http://crimeflare.net:82/cfssl.htmlWe were inspired to collect the data on this page after reading this report: Phishers using CloudFlare for SSL. Also see this technical analysis (PDF, 545 KB) on the use of SSL by CloudFlare and similar services. The CloudFlare certificates we found all had the common name in the same style as the "ssl2796.cloudflare.com" -snip- We compiled this list by attempting a handshake with the CloudFlare domains in our database. With an older version of OpenSSL on port 443, our handshake fails if the certificate uses SNI. CloudFlare's use of SNI is for "universal" SSL, and is available on free accounts. The "standard" certificates we want mean that the domain has a paid account at CloudFlare. These make up about five percent of the domains that use CloudFlare, according to news reports. It's all a marketing effort anyway, whether paid or free. There is no such thing as "secure" SSL when you have potential Men-In-The-Middle at scores of data centers around the world. Local authorities could be sniffing the plaintext available at these data centers, and CloudFlare wouldn't have a clue. Code: betcoin.ag 367617 I couldn't find any other bitcoin casinos that I've heard of on the list. as a layman, what are you saying? LOL I only skimmed the page, but I think the basic issue is that because Betcoin uses CloudFlare and CloudFlare doesn't use SSL correctly, you will see a little SSL padlock next to the URL when you connect to Betcoin, implying that the connection is secure when in fact it is not. This can be exploited by people phishing for information who might trick you into, say, entering your Betcoin password on a site that looks like Betcoin but isn't. There's also a problem that unless Betcoin's security team has taken specific steps to remedy the issue, they are probably not encrypting your information between Betcoin and CloudFlare. So, when you type in your password, it is encrypted from your computer to CloudFlare, and then sent as plaintext from CloudFlare to Betcoin, even though it shows a little SSL padlock that most users take to mean that the entire connection is secure end-to-end. Likewise, the data sent from Betcoin to CloudFlare probably isn't encrypted, either. Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: game-protect on October 24, 2016, 08:29:23 PM Betcoin.ag Signature Campaign can count on several Legendary Members from this forum and some of these signature campaign posters are very skilled and/or informed Bitcoin lovers. This is a great plus for your campaign. Yes, they have criminal skills and yes their criminal skills are a great plus for the campaign, because without the signature campaign, betcoin.ag could directly close their doors! Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: game-protect on October 25, 2016, 02:28:15 AM Does this mean that the independent review from reputable company, study and statement you guys were waiting for from Betsoft happened? Was this article ever written? https://i.gyazo.com/bbed9f755e42bddc8ba2ee5db607cf95.png Yes, there is already an independent review of how Betcoin.ag and Betsoft treat jackpot winners: Betcoin.ag extort 500 Bitcoins Jackpot winner for “settlement” (https://game-protect.com/betcoin-ag-extort-jackpot-settlement/) Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: TwitchySeal on October 27, 2016, 12:39:13 AM The reseed(BTC1.299) money is missing from Betcoins BBJP.
It should of been reset to 28,594 3 days ago. It's only at 27,460 right now. https://i.gyazo.com/0d142607846046b2d93b2963096fcb0d.png Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: DarkDays on October 27, 2016, 01:29:06 AM The reseed(BTC1.299) money is missing from Betcoins BBJP. It should of been reset to 28,594 3 days ago. It's only at 27,460 right now. https://i.gyazo.com/0d142607846046b2d93b2963096fcb0d.png So in addition to taking a scummy "house cut", they stole the reseed money? Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: TwitchySeal on October 27, 2016, 02:04:49 AM Betcoin mod (son of 'betcoin pro' plo8monster) teaching other players how to make money as an affiliate; tell players to make new account if their first one isn't credited to you.
https://i.gyazo.com/7fc240ab78dc3af3f3a30c6da4485c88.png Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: TwitchySeal on October 27, 2016, 03:31:06 AM He doesn't realize the screenshot is from the betcoin slack channel last June: http://pastebin.com/XiNCCqnF
https://i.gyazo.com/dd290824cfe752b94abbfd8c7195b4fd.png Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: zzzzzthatssixzs on October 27, 2016, 12:33:20 PM lies...
Yes, you are lying. The screenshot you have provided shows an imaginary conversation (that literally never took place). There is not 1 bit of reality in that first post. The twitter screenshots are real.. you started trolling me yesterday. IMO: You learned that I was utilizing slack chat when I made one of my promo code websites public chat available (4 days ago). (#6zsBPC) You created a slack chat... created usernames of myself and some random. You grabbed my avatar which is widely distributed online and then you sat there having a conversation with yourself.. took screenshots and tried to make it appear as me. What you are doing is personally harassing me. I am a moderator on the forums at Betcoin.ag. I do that in support of the bitcoin community. There is not any compensation or anything for the time I volunteer. Please STOP HARRASSING ME. Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: TwitchySeal on October 27, 2016, 12:53:45 PM lies... That's really pathetic.Yes, you are lying. The screenshot you have provided shows an imaginary conversation (that literally never took place). There is not 1 bit of reality in that first post. The twitter screenshots are real.. you started trolling me yesterday. IMO: You learned that I was utilizing slack chat when I made one of my promo code websites public chat available (4 days ago). (#6zsBPC) You created a slack chat... created usernames of myself and some random. You grabbed my avatar which is widely distributed online and then you sat there having a conversation with yourself.. took screenshots and tried to make it appear as me. What you are doing is personally harassing me. I am a moderator on the forums at Betcoin.ag. I do that in support of the bitcoin community. There is not any compensation or anything for the time I volunteer. Please STOP HARRASSING ME. It's fucked up suggesting players create a new account, but it's not like you couldn't just say "yeah, i fucked up, i shouldn't of done that and I'm not gonna do it anymore" and that be that. But instead you just lie. Your first reaction is to lie. First I photo shopped it, then I had the convo myself. funny Now the question is, what else do you lie about? Sound familiar to anyone else that's dealt with Betcoin? Here's zzz's slack chat archive since last Feb. The quote in question happened June 3rd. Code: zzzzzz [1:30 PM] Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: TwitchySeal on October 27, 2016, 02:16:10 PM https://i.gyazo.com/4685c32d9589b1cec1ca78f437b54b8c.png
https://i.gyazo.com/4bbd024ec5add2e76ede9ab6a121159c.png Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: DarkDays on October 27, 2016, 09:29:26 PM https://i.gyazo.com/4685c32d9589b1cec1ca78f437b54b8c.png https://i.gyazo.com/4bbd024ec5add2e76ede9ab6a121159c.png So his story changed three times in 12 hours? SAD! The question people should be asking themselves is this: if Betcoin employees are so willing to lie (poorly) about such a small thing...where this is a clear public record of what actually happened...what else are Betcoin employees willing to lie to you about? Also where's that reseed money at? Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: zzzzzthatssixzs on October 28, 2016, 12:09:26 PM 1) I am not a betcoin employee -- I am a volunteer
2) That is my private chat channel that has nothing to do with betcoin.ag 3) You can clearly see, in the context of the chat, that was several months old -- That I told someone... if they knew their friend had signuped up but the system didnt record it.. to have their friend re-sign up. I just wanted to person to get credit for referring a player. It just so happened that in your campaign of hatred I didn't realize that you had taken something I said out of context and made it a personal attack on my character. You're angry because I, a human, made a suggestion? You are attacking me personally. I have no idea 90% of the garbage that comes out of your mouth. You stalk my online accounts, you make false claims, you call my home and business.. you are sincerely inappropriate. The difference between you and me: I promote what I love... you promote what you hate... Please, stop stalking/harrassing me it is really bothering me. Please stop talking about my children and my father. It is not appropriate. Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: TwitchySeal on October 28, 2016, 12:39:39 PM 1) I am not a betcoin employee -- I am a volunteer 2) That is my private chat channel that has nothing to do with betcoin.ag [/quote]It's call, betcoin.slack The group is you, and all betcoin players It has something to do. 3) You can clearly see, in the context of the chat, that was several months old -- That I told someone... if they knew their friend had signuped up but the system didnt record it.. to have their friend re-sign up. I just wanted to person to get credit for referring a player. It just so happened that in your campaign of hatred I didn't realize that you had taken something I said out of context and made it a personal attack on my character. You're angry because I, a human, made a suggestion? I can clearly see that at 8:22 am, you removed my pinned comments, disabled my twitter integration and kicked me from the group. https://i.gyazo.com/6317251cbbd55fbd4b3bedb58de7077d.png This was after I sent you the direct link to the post. At this point I think you knew I wasn't lying. You chose to post this anyway 10 minutes later: lies... Yes, you are lying. The screenshot you have provided shows an imaginary conversation (that literally never took place). There is not 1 bit of reality in that first post. The twitter screenshots are real.. you started trolling me yesterday. IMO: You learned that I was utilizing slack chat when I made one of my promo code websites public chat available (4 days ago). (#6zsBPC) You created a slack chat... created usernames of myself and some random. You grabbed my avatar which is widely distributed online and then you sat there having a conversation with yourself.. took screenshots and tried to make it appear as me. What you are doing is personally harassing me. I am a moderator on the forums at Betcoin.ag. I do that in support of the bitcoin community. There is not any compensation or anything for the time I volunteer. Please STOP HARRASSING ME. You're not the first person to just make shit up about me for calling them out on something, I have plenty more evidence if need be, but i think that's enough. Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: bet365guru on October 28, 2016, 12:47:15 PM Betcoin mod (son of 'betcoin pro' plo8monster) teaching other players how to make money as an affiliate; tell players to make new account if their first one isn't credited to you. https://i.gyazo.com/7fc240ab78dc3af3f3a30c6da4485c88.png Nice catch, this is sick, they should fire such mod if they are transparent site, it is a scam attempt to lure affiliate, shameless trick, sick of this kind of affiliates. Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: StanDMX114 on October 28, 2016, 06:43:02 PM betcoin censored thread is entirley only signature campaign members posting now and most of them are not even players on the sitelol
Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: cjmoles on October 28, 2016, 07:48:03 PM LOL....The real question is: how many different ways can one person talk to themselves? It would seem that they would get bored with themself sooner or later....but, I don't know---if they're banned from playing poker, then they'd have to entertain themself somehow, I guess. Right?
Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: TwitchySeal on October 28, 2016, 08:43:13 PM Hey cjmoles, since Betcoin loves you so much could you please ask them what's up with these independent studies, statements and where this article is and why they are adding more Betsoft progressive Jackpots if nothing has been done?
https://i.gyazo.com/79a5afb3c0b0e4808290f58a342688ce.png https://embed.gyazo.com/bbed9f755e42bddc8ba2ee5db607cf95.png ^^^These were from July Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: cjmoles on October 28, 2016, 08:55:10 PM Hey cjmoles, since Betcoin loves you so much could you please ask them what's up with these independent studies, statements and where this article is and why they are adding more Betsoft progressive Jackpots if nothing has been done? https://i.gyazo.com/79a5afb3c0b0e4808290f58a342688ce.png https://embed.gyazo.com/bbed9f755e42bddc8ba2ee5db607cf95.png ^^^These were from July They'd be interesting....I've been waiting for a reputable independent study to be published myself. I guess nobody else has a problem with the Betsoft software because even casinolisting.com who had published the original study still promotes Betsoft affiliates....I think that's a question that needs to be asked to those who're making the fraudulent claims. I don't know. Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: Dyatrev on October 28, 2016, 09:06:51 PM 1) I am not a betcoin employee -- I am a volunteer 2) That is my private chat channel that has nothing to do with betcoin.ag 3) You can clearly see, in the context of the chat, that was several months old -- That I told someone... if they knew their friend had signuped up but the system didnt record it.. to have their friend re-sign up. I just wanted to person to get credit for referring a player. It just so happened that in your campaign of hatred I didn't realize that you had taken something I said out of context and made it a personal attack on my character. You're angry because I, a human, made a suggestion? You are attacking me personally. I have no idea 90% of the garbage that comes out of your mouth. You stalk my online accounts, you make false claims, you call my home and business.. you are sincerely inappropriate. The difference between you and me: I promote what I love... you promote what you hate... Please, stop stalking/harrassing me it is really bothering me. Please stop talking about my children and my father. It is not appropriate. first you said it was set up from ts then accepted it? Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: TwitchySeal on October 28, 2016, 09:07:07 PM @cjmoles
Could you please ask them what's up with these independent studies, statements and where this article is and why they are adding more Betsoft progressive Jackpots if nothing has been done? they wont delete your post, i dont think Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: game-protect on October 28, 2016, 09:13:36 PM Some thoughts:
1) Most customers come thru bitcointalk.org 2) No one complain here that the monthly vip freerolls 25 BTC Master, 10 BTC Diamond, 5 BTC Ruby and 3 BTC Emerald are not running. This at least strongly indicates that no one reach these vip levels and this strongly indicates that most customers are fun and losing players. 3) Players receive in average 100% rakeback = no revenue for betcoin.ag, but how do they generate money? 4) Considering that they have mostly fun and losing players and considering that there is no control whatsoever, I assume that they make their money with superuser accounts. This would perfect explain their behaviour why they offer since 2 years! 100% rakeback and at the same time have an army of dumb liars to draw dumb customers in! Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: TwitchySeal on October 28, 2016, 09:16:09 PM Some thoughts: 1) Most customers come thru bitcointalk.org 2) No one complain here that the monthly vip freerolls 25 BTC Master, 10 BTC Diamond, 5 BTC Ruby and 3 BTC Emerald are not running. This at least strongly indicates that no one reach these vip levels and this strongly indicates that most customers are fun and losing players. 3) Players receive in average 100% rakeback = no revenue for betcoin.ag, but how do they generate money? 4) Considering that they have mostly fun and losing players and considering that there is no control whatsoever, I assume that they make their money with superuser accounts. This would perfect explain their behaviour why they offer since 2 years! 100% rakeback and at the same time have a heer of dumb liars to draw dumb customers in! 5) 1 year ago they were running 10 btc freerolls every couple months. 6) 1 year ago they had no signature campaign 7) Now they pay over 6 btc per month to their sig campaign. Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: cjmoles on October 28, 2016, 09:21:00 PM @cjmoles Could you please ask them what's up with these independent studies, statements and where this article is and why they are adding more Betsoft progressive Jackpots if nothing has been done? they wont delete your post, i dont think Nothing has been done about what? It would help to know what needs to be done. There hasn't been any conclusive evidence that there's a real problem with the provider....that's why somebody reputable needs to do an independent study. It'd be interesting to analyze, for sure. But, out of all the watchdogs, nobody's been able to provide anything that they are willing to stand behind and publish. Not even casinolistings.com is confident enough in their own study to blacklist their affiliates....So far, nobody else has found their data credible enough to put forth their own effort to conduct an independent study. Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: TwitchySeal on October 28, 2016, 09:29:50 PM @cjmoles Could you please ask them what's up with these independent studies, statements and where this article is and why they are adding more Betsoft progressive Jackpots if nothing has been done? they wont delete your post, i dont think Nothing has been done about what? It would help to know what needs to be done. There hasn't been any conclusive evidence that there's a real problem with the provider....that's why somebody reputable needs to do an independent study. It'd be interesting to analyze, for sure. But, out of all the watchdogs, nobody's been able to provide anything that they are willing to stand behind and publish. Not even casinolistings.com is confident enough in their own study to blacklist their affiliates....So far, nobody else has found their data credible enough to put forth their own effort to conduct an independent study. Well, they said an article would be written soon to clarify the relationship between Casino and Software Provider. They basically said betsoft needs to explain themselves after the jasonort thing. Then nothing happened. Now its almost November and they are adding more Betsoft progressive jackpots to their site and ignoring any question about the Betsoft issue. Maybe they won't ignore you. Give it a shot, why not? https://embed.gyazo.com/bbed9f755e42bddc8ba2ee5db607cf95.png Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: cjmoles on October 28, 2016, 09:31:15 PM Some thoughts: 1) Most customers come thru bitcointalk.org 2) No one complain here that the monthly vip freerolls 25 BTC Master, 10 BTC Diamond, 5 BTC Ruby and 3 BTC Emerald are not running. This at least strongly indicates that no one reach these vip levels and this strongly indicates that most customers are fun and losing players. 3) Players receive in average 100% rakeback = no revenue for betcoin.ag, but how do they generate money? 4) Considering that they have mostly fun and losing players and considering that there is no control whatsoever, I assume that they make their money with superuser accounts. This would perfect explain their behaviour why they offer since 2 years! 100% rakeback and at the same time have an army of dumb liars to draw dumb customers in! 100 percent average rakeback? You're math skills are absolutely astute. And, how can you find that being overly generous to their players is a sign that people should pay you for a litigation service that you really cannot honor? Can you get my money back from Tilt, UB, AP, or Lock? No! There hasn't been anybody who could....so, what makes your service special, thief? Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: TwitchySeal on October 28, 2016, 09:42:55 PM Can you get my money back from Tilt, UB, AP, or Lock? No! There hasn't been anybody who could....so, what makes your service special, thief? That's because you lost it before black friday.Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: cjmoles on October 28, 2016, 09:50:28 PM Can you get my money back from Tilt, UB, AP, or Lock? No! There hasn't been anybody who could....so, what makes your service special, thief? That's because you lost it before black friday.No....the Lock Poker incident is fairly recent....last year. And, AP came back and ran for a little while even after Black Friday....My bad though...I knew the risks. Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: TwitchySeal on October 28, 2016, 10:27:51 PM @cjmoles Could you please ask them what's up with these independent studies, statements and where this article is and why they are adding more Betsoft progressive Jackpots if nothing has been done? they wont delete your post, i dont think Nothing has been done about what? It would help to know what needs to be done. There hasn't been any conclusive evidence that there's a real problem with the provider....that's why somebody reputable needs to do an independent study. It'd be interesting to analyze, for sure. But, out of all the watchdogs, nobody's been able to provide anything that they are willing to stand behind and publish. Not even casinolistings.com is confident enough in their own study to blacklist their affiliates....So far, nobody else has found their data credible enough to put forth their own effort to conduct an independent study. Well, they said an article would be written soon to clarify the relationship between Casino and Software Provider. They basically said betsoft needs to explain themselves after the jasonort thing. Then nothing happened. Now its almost November and they are adding more Betsoft progressive jackpots to their site and ignoring any question about the Betsoft issue. Maybe they won't ignore you. Give it a shot, why not? https://embed.gyazo.com/bbed9f755e42bddc8ba2ee5db607cf95.png Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: game-protect on October 28, 2016, 11:22:02 PM Some thoughts: 1) Most customers come thru bitcointalk.org 2) No one complain here that the monthly vip freerolls 25 BTC Master, 10 BTC Diamond, 5 BTC Ruby and 3 BTC Emerald are not running. This at least strongly indicates that no one reach these vip levels and this strongly indicates that most customers are fun and losing players. 3) Players receive in average 100% rakeback = no revenue for betcoin.ag, but how do they generate money? 4) Considering that they have mostly fun and losing players and considering that there is no control whatsoever, I assume that they make their money with superuser accounts. This would perfect explain their behaviour why they offer since 2 years! 100% rakeback and at the same time have an army of dumb liars to draw dumb customers in! 100 percent average rakeback? You're math skills are absolutely astute. Explain the mistake(s) in the calculation (Xiaoxiao was not able): It is mathematically and juridically absolute correct to use the average numbers and as long as Xiaoxiao do not put the real numbers on the table, I take that one: 1) Referred players paid BTC75 rake in August 2) 33% fix from betcoin.ag in form of Xiaoxiao + 30% vip rakeback + 25% tablestarter = 88% in average + the countless too good to be true promotions, (do not know) maybe 12% in average = 100% rakeback in average!!! 3) From the BTC75 rake paid in August, betcoin.ag paid 100% back to players and made a 0% gross revenue 4) Xiaoxiao received 40% commission of the BTC75 rake paid = 30 BTC 5) Xiaoxiao's behaviour created a - 30 BTC LOSS in August for betcoin.ag 6) A legitimate company would never pay 30 BTC from their pocket to a foreign affiliate! ::) This calculation also confirms that the betcoin.ag scam pays the too good to be true promotions, 58-133% rakeback = 95,5% average + surprise boxes + affiliate commissions + signature campaigns + software provider fees + employees + infrastructure and whatever costs from the player deposits/not paid jackpot winnings/scams and this is called PONZI SCHEME! Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: DarkDays on October 29, 2016, 12:14:07 AM CJMultiaccounter is now trolling in here? SAD. Seems like he should find something better to do than go into a thread and try to derail it. Typical Betcoin Employee tactics.
Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: TwitchySeal on October 29, 2016, 01:54:41 AM CJMultiaccounter is now trolling in here? SAD. Seems like he should find something better to do than go into a thread and try to derail it. Typical Betcoin Employee tactics. His last post was a couple hours before the cutoff time for their sig campaign end of stage. He's made around 80 posts in the last 36 hours, guess he fell behind and wanted to make sure to get paid. Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: DarkDays on October 29, 2016, 03:59:59 AM CJMultiaccounter is now trolling in here? SAD. Seems like he should find something better to do than go into a thread and try to derail it. Typical Betcoin Employee tactics. His last post was a couple hours before the cutoff time for their sig campaign end of stage. He's made around 80 posts in the last 36 hours, guess he fell behind and wanted to make sure to get paid. When your ABI is 40 cents, every penny counts I guess. Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: Wendigo on October 29, 2016, 06:59:51 AM The value of Bitcoin is rising so I guess this is a very big incentive but making 42 posts in 1 day on a Hero account oO. Holy moly ;D
Is this account sold or what? Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: DarkDays on October 29, 2016, 07:08:39 AM The value of Bitcoin is rising so I guess this is a very big incentive but making 42 posts in 1 day on a Hero account oO. Holy moly ;D Is this account sold or what? Every account that has spamsig is "sold". Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: lenyro on October 29, 2016, 07:15:46 AM The value of Bitcoin is rising so I guess this is a very big incentive but making 42 posts in 1 day on a Hero account oO. Holy moly ;D Is this account sold or what? Every account that has spamsig is "sold". betcoin.ag must like that ass-sucker hero account to debate for him, and they him nice. :D Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: Wendigo on October 29, 2016, 07:30:27 AM The value of Bitcoin is rising so I guess this is a very big incentive but making 42 posts in 1 day on a Hero account oO. Holy moly ;D Is this account sold or what? Every account that has spamsig is "sold". Touche :o ;D Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: DarkStar_ on October 29, 2016, 09:12:51 PM -snip- Maybe, just maybe, but maybe (<- didn't mean to use it again, but felt weird without) their rigged (for the most part) casino games generate good profits, as well as their sportsbook (pretty high margins). I don't think it's fair to accuse them like that without thinking about their sports volume and casino volume - not everything is poker.6) A legitimate company would never pay 30 BTC from their pocket to a foreign affiliate! ::) This calculation also confirms that the betcoin.ag scam pays the too good to be true promotions, 58-133% rakeback = 95,5% average + surprise boxes + affiliate commissions + signature campaigns + software provider fees + employees + infrastructure and whatever costs from the player deposits/not paid jackpot winnings/scams and this is called PONZI SCHEME! While I do think Betcoin is a scummy site, I think your being too focused on attacking them. Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: NiceSoft12 on October 29, 2016, 10:31:27 PM Some thoughts: 1) Most customers come thru bitcointalk.org 2) No one complain here that the monthly vip freerolls 25 BTC Master, 10 BTC Diamond, 5 BTC Ruby and 3 BTC Emerald are not running. This at least strongly indicates that no one reach these vip levels and this strongly indicates that most customers are fun and losing players. 3) Players receive in average 100% rakeback = no revenue for betcoin.ag, but how do they generate money? 4) Considering that they have mostly fun and losing players and considering that there is no control whatsoever, I assume that they make their money with superuser accounts. This would perfect explain their behaviour why they offer since 2 years! 100% rakeback and at the same time have an army of dumb liars to draw dumb customers in! 100 percent average rakeback? You're math skills are absolutely astute. Explain the mistake(s) in the calculation (Xiaoxiao was not able): It is mathematically and juridically absolute correct to use the average numbers and as long as Xiaoxiao do not put the real numbers on the table, I take that one: 1) Referred players paid BTC75 rake in August 2) 33% fix from betcoin.ag in form of Xiaoxiao + 30% vip rakeback + 25% tablestarter = 88% in average + the countless too good to be true promotions, (do not know) maybe 12% in average = 100% rakeback in average!!! 3) From the BTC75 rake paid in August, betcoin.ag paid 100% back to players and made a 0% gross revenue 4) Xiaoxiao received 40% commission of the BTC75 rake paid = 30 BTC 5) Xiaoxiao's behaviour created a - 30 BTC LOSS in August for betcoin.ag 6) A legitimate company would never pay 30 BTC from their pocket to a foreign affiliate! ::) This calculation also confirms that the betcoin.ag scam pays the too good to be true promotions, 58-133% rakeback = 95,5% average + surprise boxes + affiliate commissions + signature campaigns + software provider fees + employees + infrastructure and whatever costs from the player deposits/not paid jackpot winnings/scams and this is called PONZI SCHEME! You must be the dumbest mf on forum. 58-133% doesn't mean average players get 95.5%. Most players are getting 58 - 80% and 80 is a very rare occurrence. I've got 3 referrals to xiao, one guy's a silver at around 53%, another is gold around 60 and then one guy is a emerald which is like 68%. Use your brain before you spew bs man. Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: TwitchySeal on October 29, 2016, 11:51:05 PM I'm 90% sure that Nicesoft is a personal friend posing as just another player or alt account that belongs to Xiaoxiao. No smoking gun proof, but I'd be surprised if I were wrong (although I wouldn't feel bad considering the shit he's made up about me and pretended like they were fact)
Edit: I wouldn't normally make an accusation like this without evidence to prove it beyond a reasonable doubt. But I'm making an exception here because they have each proven themselves to be total scum and It would just make perfect sense if the nicesoft account were created with the sole purpose of promoting Betcoin and more specifically Xiaoxiao as an affiliate if you look at the post history (including those posts complaining about late rake-back payments - and the swc affiliate link included in sig) Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: game-protect on October 30, 2016, 02:31:03 AM Some thoughts: 1) Most customers come thru bitcointalk.org 2) No one complain here that the monthly vip freerolls 25 BTC Master, 10 BTC Diamond, 5 BTC Ruby and 3 BTC Emerald are not running. This at least strongly indicates that no one reach these vip levels and this strongly indicates that most customers are fun and losing players. 3) Players receive in average 100% rakeback = no revenue for betcoin.ag, but how do they generate money? 4) Considering that they have mostly fun and losing players and considering that there is no control whatsoever, I assume that they make their money with superuser accounts. This would perfect explain their behaviour why they offer since 2 years! 100% rakeback and at the same time have an army of dumb liars to draw dumb customers in! 100 percent average rakeback? You're math skills are absolutely astute. Explain the mistake(s) in the calculation (Xiaoxiao was not able): It is mathematically and juridically absolute correct to use the average numbers and as long as Xiaoxiao do not put the real numbers on the table, I take that one: 1) Referred players paid BTC75 rake in August 2) 33% fix from betcoin.ag in form of Xiaoxiao + 30% vip rakeback + 25% tablestarter = 88% in average + the countless too good to be true promotions, (do not know) maybe 12% in average = 100% rakeback in average!!! 3) From the BTC75 rake paid in August, betcoin.ag paid 100% back to players and made a 0% gross revenue 4) Xiaoxiao received 40% commission of the BTC75 rake paid = 30 BTC 5) Xiaoxiao's behaviour created a - 30 BTC LOSS in August for betcoin.ag 6) A legitimate company would never pay 30 BTC from their pocket to a foreign affiliate! ::) This calculation also confirms that the betcoin.ag scam pays the too good to be true promotions, 58-133% rakeback = 95,5% average + surprise boxes + affiliate commissions + signature campaigns + software provider fees + employees + infrastructure and whatever costs from the player deposits/not paid jackpot winnings/scams and this is called PONZI SCHEME! You must be the dumbest mf on forum. 58-133% doesn't mean average players get 95.5%. Most players are getting 58 - 80% and 80 is a very rare occurrence. I've got 3 referrals to xiao, one guy's a silver at around 53%, another is gold around 60 and then one guy is a emerald which is like 68%. Use your brain before you spew bs man. 58-133% is mathematically in average 95,5%! But it does not play much a role: Even if most players receive only 70% rakeback in average + the 40% commission they pay to Xiaoxiao, they lose 110% of every $1 rake they collect. + the too good to be true promotions + the business expenses And this confirms that they make their money with cheating players, because their business model itself is not sustainable! Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: cjmoles on October 30, 2016, 02:49:49 AM The value of Bitcoin is rising so I guess this is a very big incentive but making 42 posts in 1 day on a Hero account oO. Holy moly ;D Is this account sold or what? So, what are saying? Are you a new recruit to the Betcoin Fud team? Do you believe there's something wrong with the quality of my posts? You guys throw unfounded accusations around like you have some level of credibility....No, my account was not bought or sold, and no, I do not have alternate accounts....What about you? Why are you digging into my activity? Something to gain by trolling me? The value of Bitcoin is rising so I guess this is a very big incentive but making 42 posts in 1 day on a Hero account oO. Holy moly ;D Is this account sold or what? Every account that has spamsig is "sold". Touche :o ;D "Touche :o ;D" <---- Quality post there! Shall we start comparing? CJMultiaccounter is now trolling in here? SAD. Seems like he should find something better to do than go into a thread and try to derail it. Typical Betcoin Employee tactics. For one, this is a counterfeited thread pretending like it's the official Betcoin.ag thread and it is full of false information and lies. It demonstrates a level of deception that is befitting of your collusion group. And, for two, how is adding an element of truth derailing your counterfeited thread? Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: game-protect on October 30, 2016, 02:53:29 AM -snip- Maybe, just maybe, but maybe (<- didn't mean to use it again, but felt weird without) their rigged (for the most part) casino games generate good profits, as well as their sportsbook (pretty high margins). I don't think it's fair to accuse them like that without thinking about their sports volume and casino volume - not everything is poker.6) A legitimate company would never pay 30 BTC from their pocket to a foreign affiliate! ::) This calculation also confirms that the betcoin.ag scam pays the too good to be true promotions, 58-133% rakeback = 95,5% average + surprise boxes + affiliate commissions + signature campaigns + software provider fees + employees + infrastructure and whatever costs from the player deposits/not paid jackpot winnings/scams and this is called PONZI SCHEME! While I do think Betcoin is a scummy site, I think your being too focused on attacking them. Xiaoxiao itself stated that his poker players paid 75 BTC rake in August, while the casino revenue was around 3 BTC. The 3 BTC casino revenue can even not cover the 6 BTC for their signature campaign here. For the 75 BTC rake collected, they have to pay around 70 - 80% rakeback + 40% commission to Xiaoxiao = 110 - 120% = 7,5 - 15 BTC loss + too good to be true promotions loss + business expenses loss! Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: DarkDays on October 30, 2016, 05:41:08 AM For one, this is a counterfeited thread pretending like it's the official Betcoin.ag thread and it is full of false information and lies. It demonstrates a level of deception that is befitting of your collusion group. And, for two, how is adding an element of truth derailing your counterfeited thread? 1. There's nothing "counterfeit" about it. This thread was only made in response to Betcoin closing their open thread and opening a "self-moderated" thread. Do you disagree with that? If Betcoin had never chosen to stop allowing open discussion, this thread wouldn't be necessary. Seriously, go through this thread and see all of the posts that Betcoin has censored already, it's shocking and sad. Nobody who is thinking clearly can defend them. Nobody. It is not worth the pennies they are paying you. 2. While posters like myself can not predict who will post in this thread, or what they will say, I implore you to point out the false information/lies. If this is "full" of both of those, you should be able to easily point out a dozen examples. Please do that and defend your position. If you can't, you are just proving that you are an ad hominem liar. And that again begs the question...why would you come in here and throw around false flag lies? What benefit does that provide to you? Unless... 3. In a similar vein, please support your "collusion group" claim. That is a big accusation to make! I encourage you to report ALL collusion to Betcoin support. This, of course, includes your multiaccounting. I do hope you appreciate what is going on here. You come in, say defaming lies, get paid a penny or two by Jessica White, and your post isn't censored. It isn't even ignored! I'm attempting to engage with you, to create a dialogue. I'm not demeaning you or calling you names, I'm giving you ample opportunity to explain yourself, show examples, and convince me that what you are saying is true. Are you as open minded? Are you willing to have a discussion? Or are you beholden to a master? Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: ndnh on October 30, 2016, 05:56:15 AM Some thoughts: 1) Most customers come thru bitcointalk.org 2) No one complain here that the monthly vip freerolls 25 BTC Master, 10 BTC Diamond, 5 BTC Ruby and 3 BTC Emerald are not running. This at least strongly indicates that no one reach these vip levels and this strongly indicates that most customers are fun and losing players. 3) Players receive in average 100% rakeback = no revenue for betcoin.ag, but how do they generate money? 4) Considering that they have mostly fun and losing players and considering that there is no control whatsoever, I assume that they make their money with superuser accounts. This would perfect explain their behaviour why they offer since 2 years! 100% rakeback and at the same time have an army of dumb liars to draw dumb customers in! 100 percent average rakeback? You're math skills are absolutely astute. Explain the mistake(s) in the calculation (Xiaoxiao was not able): It is mathematically and juridically absolute correct to use the average numbers and as long as Xiaoxiao do not put the real numbers on the table, I take that one: 1) Referred players paid BTC75 rake in August 2) 33% fix from betcoin.ag in form of Xiaoxiao + 30% vip rakeback + 25% tablestarter = 88% in average + the countless too good to be true promotions, (do not know) maybe 12% in average = 100% rakeback in average!!! 3) From the BTC75 rake paid in August, betcoin.ag paid 100% back to players and made a 0% gross revenue 4) Xiaoxiao received 40% commission of the BTC75 rake paid = 30 BTC 5) Xiaoxiao's behaviour created a - 30 BTC LOSS in August for betcoin.ag 6) A legitimate company would never pay 30 BTC from their pocket to a foreign affiliate! ::) This calculation also confirms that the betcoin.ag scam pays the too good to be true promotions, 58-133% rakeback = 95,5% average + surprise boxes + affiliate commissions + signature campaigns + software provider fees + employees + infrastructure and whatever costs from the player deposits/not paid jackpot winnings/scams and this is called PONZI SCHEME! LOL!! This sounds really stupid that I am suddenly not sure if betcoin.ag is scammy or not. Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: cjmoles on October 30, 2016, 06:25:12 AM For one, this is a counterfeited thread pretending like it's the official Betcoin.ag thread and it is full of false information and lies. It demonstrates a level of deception that is befitting of your collusion group. And, for two, how is adding an element of truth derailing your counterfeited thread? 1. There's nothing "counterfeit" about it. This thread was only made in response to Betcoin closing their open thread and opening a "self-moderated" thread. Do you disagree with that? If Betcoin had never chosen to stop allowing open discussion, this thread wouldn't be necessary. Seriously, go through this thread and see all of the posts that Betcoin has censored already, it's shocking and sad. Nobody who is thinking clearly can defend them. Nobody. It is not worth the pennies they are paying you. 2. While posters like myself can not predict who will post in this thread, or what they will say, I implore you to point out the false information/lies. If this is "full" of both of those, you should be able to easily point out a dozen examples. Please do that and defend your position. If you can't, you are just proving that you are an ad hominem liar. And that again begs the question...why would you come in here and throw around false flag lies? What benefit does that provide to you? Unless... 3. In a similar vein, please support your "collusion group" claim. That is a big accusation to make! I encourage you to report ALL collusion to Betcoin support. This, of course, includes your multiaccounting. I do hope you appreciate what is going on here. You come in, say defaming lies, get paid a penny or two by Jessica White, and your post isn't censored. It isn't even ignored! I'm attempting to engage with you, to create a dialogue. I'm not demeaning you or calling you names, I'm giving you ample opportunity to explain yourself, show examples, and convince me that what you are saying is true. Are you as open minded? Are you willing to have a discussion? Or are you beholden to a master? A thread Titled "♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕" isn't a counterfeit of the real official thread titled "♠ BETCOIN.AG ♠ OFFICIAL THREAD- The Poker Sports Casino Dice Affiliate ?" found here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1616139.0 Okay, dude! See how you guys think! That's your version of honest? And, when I said "collusion group," you know I meant the team you guys recruited to bash on Betcoin.ag to scalp traffic to rival sites which, I might add, aren't nearly as successful as Betcoin.ag. It's this group of scammy people you've recruited to splatter all the Betcoin.ag supporters profiles with red and it's all the alternate accounts that are associated with them! And, it's all these scammy organisations you support who are trying to rip people off with their crooked affiliate programs, like game-protect and casinolisting. That's just scammy as hell. Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: game-protect on October 30, 2016, 06:36:19 AM A thread Titled "♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕" isn't a counterfeit of the real official thread titled "♠ BETCOIN.AG ♠ OFFICIAL THREAD- The Poker Sports Casino Dice Affiliate ?" found here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1616139.0 Okay, dude! See how you guys think! That's your version of honest? - snip - Betcoin.ag is not an official company, how can they have an official thread? ::) It is even not a company, it is just a domain name. Can domain names have an official thread? This thread is very real, opposed to the other censorship thread! Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: TwitchySeal on October 30, 2016, 08:30:37 AM -snip- Maybe, just maybe, but maybe (<- didn't mean to use it again, but felt weird without) their rigged (for the most part) casino games generate good profits, as well as their sportsbook (pretty high margins). I don't think it's fair to accuse them like that without thinking about their sports volume and casino volume - not everything is poker.6) A legitimate company would never pay 30 BTC from their pocket to a foreign affiliate! ::) This calculation also confirms that the betcoin.ag scam pays the too good to be true promotions, 58-133% rakeback = 95,5% average + surprise boxes + affiliate commissions + signature campaigns + software provider fees + employees + infrastructure and whatever costs from the player deposits/not paid jackpot winnings/scams and this is called PONZI SCHEME! While I do think Betcoin is a scummy site, I think your being too focused on attacking them. Xiaoxiao itself stated that his poker players paid 75 BTC rake in August, while the casino revenue was around 3 BTC. The 3 BTC casino revenue can even not cover the 6 BTC for their signature campaign here. For the 75 BTC rake collected, they have to pay around 70 - 80% rakeback + 40% commission to Xiaoxiao = 110 - 120% = 7,5 - 15 BTC loss + too good to be true promotions loss + business expenses loss! I assume this is GamesProtects way of pointing out Xiao is a liar. To be clear, there's 0 chance Xiao's players pay a combined 75 btc in rake per month. On average, they deal less than 200k hands a week. Including all tournament, freerolls included and cash and unless somethings changed recently it's mostly micro stakes. That's nothing. He also claimed in the same post that the same players who were generating over 75 btc a month in rake generated less than 1 btc in casino, sports or dice revenue. He was just trying to play the roll of a poker savior that gives everything he makes back to the players out of the goodness of his heart. If Betcoin regulars weren't getting close to 100% rakeback, there wouldn't be any games. I don't think it does anygood calling Betcoin a "scam", because there are reasonable arguments to be made that they are not. I'm also don't think that they plan to run away with everyones money any time soon. I think whoever funds them hired a couple incompetent, under-qualified scumbags to manage the site. The owner is either not paying attention, doesn't care, or is dumb enough to be fooled by his employees into not realizing that Betcoin Andrew and Jessica are the reason they haven't increased their player base in two years+ Players get fucked out of money left and right, not bc Betcoin intended to, just because of their incompetence. The players who don't complain (often because they don't even realize it) or don't complain enough, don't get compensated - despite Betcoin being fully aware that they are owed money. Those who do complain, always get compensated. And then some. All their energy and resources goes into trying to cover up all their fuckups and then cover up their coverups. @cjmoles: I think you should ask Betcoin about their recent addition of new Betsoft games with new progressive jackpots. Here are some things they said last summer, could you please remind them of this and see what happened? If Betsoft didn't make any statement or conduct any third party audit, then why would they continue doing business with them? Especially when there are so many other options? https://i.gyazo.com/5db5e7534ca0fe39e638c690b3c0579c.png I think they might not delete your post since you've only say ever said good things about them in the past. Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: DarkDays on October 30, 2016, 08:14:06 PM For one, this is a counterfeited thread pretending like it's the official Betcoin.ag thread and it is full of false information and lies. It demonstrates a level of deception that is befitting of your collusion group. And, for two, how is adding an element of truth derailing your counterfeited thread? 1. There's nothing "counterfeit" about it. This thread was only made in response to Betcoin closing their open thread and opening a "self-moderated" thread. Do you disagree with that? If Betcoin had never chosen to stop allowing open discussion, this thread wouldn't be necessary. Seriously, go through this thread and see all of the posts that Betcoin has censored already, it's shocking and sad. Nobody who is thinking clearly can defend them. Nobody. It is not worth the pennies they are paying you. 2. While posters like myself can not predict who will post in this thread, or what they will say, I implore you to point out the false information/lies. If this is "full" of both of those, you should be able to easily point out a dozen examples. Please do that and defend your position. If you can't, you are just proving that you are an ad hominem liar. And that again begs the question...why would you come in here and throw around false flag lies? What benefit does that provide to you? Unless... 3. In a similar vein, please support your "collusion group" claim. That is a big accusation to make! I encourage you to report ALL collusion to Betcoin support. This, of course, includes your multiaccounting. I do hope you appreciate what is going on here. You come in, say defaming lies, get paid a penny or two by Jessica White, and your post isn't censored. It isn't even ignored! I'm attempting to engage with you, to create a dialogue. I'm not demeaning you or calling you names, I'm giving you ample opportunity to explain yourself, show examples, and convince me that what you are saying is true. Are you as open minded? Are you willing to have a discussion? Or are you beholden to a master? A thread Titled "♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕" isn't a counterfeit of the real official thread titled "♠ BETCOIN.AG ♠ OFFICIAL THREAD- The Poker Sports Casino Dice Affiliate ?" found here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1616139.0 Okay, dude! See how you guys think! That's your version of honest? And, when I said "collusion group," you know I meant the team you guys recruited to bash on Betcoin.ag to scalp traffic to rival sites which, I might add, aren't nearly as successful as Betcoin.ag. It's this group of scammy people you've recruited to splatter all the Betcoin.ag supporters profiles with red and it's all the alternate accounts that are associated with them! And, it's all these scammy organisations you support who are trying to rip people off with their crooked affiliate programs, like game-protect and casinolisting. That's just scammy as hell. Again, please provide ANY proof to back up your claims. Engage in a discussion instead of throwing incorrect insults! Any proof. Any at all. You can't, of course, because I've gone on record saying that I don't agree with what GP is doing ITT and that I think he should stop because he isn't helping. Show any proof at all of the "collusion" you are saying I am engaging in. Any proof. Again, I said "I'm giving you ample opportunity to explain yourself, show examples, and convince me that what you are saying is true. Are you as open minded? Are you willing to have a discussion? Or are you beholden to a master?" You said...nothing. Doesn't that show everyone the answer to my final question to you? Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: game-protect on October 31, 2016, 01:36:44 AM - snip - You can't, of course, because I've gone on record saying that I don't agree with what GP is doing ITT and that I think he should stop because he isn't helping. What would help in your opinion, what is your goal? Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: DarkDays on October 31, 2016, 05:11:53 AM - snip - You can't, of course, because I've gone on record saying that I don't agree with what GP is doing ITT and that I think he should stop because he isn't helping. What would help in your opinion, what is your goal? You not spamming your affiliate portal would help, in my opinion. You not trying to jump in with incorrect info (post #23) in order to spam your sigspam would help, in my opinion. These are the things that got you kicked off of 2p2, in my opinion. My goal is to hold Betcoin accountable for what they have done with the ultimate goal of having them NOT exit scam as Full Flush, Lock, AB, UB, FTP, JetSet, PokerSpot, and many many others have done. And, of course, if they do, to prevent the most people from losing money as humanly possible. Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: Wendigo on October 31, 2016, 07:54:13 AM The value of Bitcoin is rising so I guess this is a very big incentive but making 42 posts in 1 day on a Hero account oO. Holy moly ;D Is this account sold or what? So, what are saying? Are you a new recruit to the Betcoin Fud team? Do you believe there's something wrong with the quality of my posts? You guys throw unfounded accusations around like you have some level of credibility....No, my account was not bought or sold, and no, I do not have alternate accounts....What about you? Why are you digging into my activity? Something to gain by trolling me? The value of Bitcoin is rising so I guess this is a very big incentive but making 42 posts in 1 day on a Hero account oO. Holy moly ;D Is this account sold or what? Every account that has spamsig is "sold". Touche :o ;D "Touche :o ;D" <---- Quality post there! Shall we start comparing? CJMultiaccounter is now trolling in here? SAD. Seems like he should find something better to do than go into a thread and try to derail it. Typical Betcoin Employee tactics. For one, this is a counterfeited thread pretending like it's the official Betcoin.ag thread and it is full of false information and lies. It demonstrates a level of deception that is befitting of your collusion group. And, for two, how is adding an element of truth derailing your counterfeited thread? For the record I have not been 'stalking' you or 'checking into your posting activity', mate. How much you have posted was pointed out by another forum member, not myself. You could see who it was on your own. What caught my attention is how many posts you have posted in such a short amount of time that is regarded as a bannable offense in a lot of signature campaigns and forum rules in general. That's all. And by the way I was in the Betcoin signature campaign along with you and I haven't ever said a bad word about them either with or without the signature and you can feel free to check my previous posts. I am not a part of the circle jerk in this thread if this is what you are insinuating. Oh and you can post 2 paragraphs of essentially nothing and pretend for it be something, but that doesn't mean you are actually saying anything of essence. And that 'touche' comment I made was on point and it surely had more 'substance' than your lengthy post addressing me. I threw you a bone and you bit on it so can we now go our separate ways or you are going to retaliate with another insightful post about me? Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: TwitchySeal on November 01, 2016, 06:54:13 PM And by the way I was in the Betcoin signature campaign along with you and I haven't ever said a bad word about them either with or without the signature and you can feel free to check my previous posts. I am not a part of the circle jerk in this thread if this is what you are insinuating. Maybe you'd be interested in joining the circle jerk after you read this? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1667860.msg16745828#msg16745828 Were always looking to increase the circumference. Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: game-protect on November 01, 2016, 09:07:10 PM - snip - You can't, of course, because I've gone on record saying that I don't agree with what GP is doing ITT and that I think he should stop because he isn't helping. What would help in your opinion, what is your goal? You not spamming your affiliate portal would help, in my opinion. How much revenue will betcoin.ag lose, if I stop posting in this thread? You not trying to jump in with incorrect info (post #23) in order to spam your sigspam would help, in my opinion. Any proof of my "incorrect info"? These are the things that got you kicked off of 2p2, in my opinion. Non existing accounts rarely can get banned. My goal is to hold Betcoin accountable for what they have done with the ultimate goal of having them NOT exit scam as Full Flush, Lock, AB, UB, FTP, JetSet, PokerSpot, and many many others have done. And, of course, if they do, to prevent the most people from losing money as humanly possible. How do you plan to hold betcoin.ag liable for what they have done? Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: x4 on November 02, 2016, 04:43:04 AM Hey betcoin when I tried to access one of the casino games this is what browser shows even I'm already login and there's no error when I logged.
Sorry, an error occurred during login Time: 2016.11.01 23:37:30 Support ticket id L3: xxxxxxxxxx What is the possible reason for this? EDIT: Sorry maybe I'm in the wrong section. Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: TwitchySeal on November 07, 2016, 12:07:33 AM Cross posting from Scam Accusation Thread:
Recently I found playbetr.com, which is a copy of Betcoin.ag that offers play money. Same casino, sports, dice, chat, community forum, and even a manager named "playbetr jessy" that pops in chat every once in a while. The poker software is also igsoft and filled with obvious bots, but it's play money so not a big deal other than proof that bot implementation is possible and probably easy. The obvious Betsoft graphics is even more evidence that points to Betcoin and Betsfot being the one and the same. https://i.gyazo.com/6b21cdbf25e9063f8e52e89e66b3f004.jpg I looked at the playbetr site and the layout is identical to betcoin, header, font, formatting, chat box, VIP system layout/design, recent activity box, site statistics, active user box, everything. It's clear they are owned by the same people. Also, playbetr was at G2E a couple months ago: https://www.playbetr.com/playbetr-attend-g2e-global-gaming-conference-las-vegas Doesn't look like 'Betsoft' was there, but it looks like they WERE at ICE the next week and/or at 'Macao'? Their facebook is a little confusing. Also, both Betcoin and playbetr were registered through the same domain register company (Gandi SAS). Betsoft.com is not, although it was registered in 2002 and it looked like Gandi didn't start their VPS cloud hosting service until 2008. Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: unworncoma on November 13, 2016, 08:30:44 AM hmm, just spent the last little bit scamming.. excuse me skimming this thread. I don't think betcoin are scammers, I think they dont really think too much about there promos or promises too much before rolling it out so to say. Could have 2 years of this behavior put them in a bad position far as liquidity, that's possible, if not likely. It's hard to take any site seriously that wont engage with their client base in an open way. What good is a QA session if any uncomfortable question can just be removed from the equation. I cant rightly say they are scamming, I can say that they are exhibiting a behavior that at the very least could be designated as scummy.
Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: TwitchySeal on November 13, 2016, 12:18:38 PM hmm, just spent the last little bit scamming.. excuse me skimming this thread. I don't think betcoin are scammers, I think they dont really think too much about there promos or promises too much before rolling it out so to say. Could have 2 years of this behavior put them in a bad position far as liquidity, that's possible, if not likely. It's hard to take any site seriously that wont engage with their client base in an open way. What good is a QA session if any uncomfortable question can just be removed from the equation. I cant rightly say they are scamming, I can say that they are exhibiting a behavior that at the very least could be designated as scummy. There are many different ways to define "scammer"Betcoin fits some of them, but not all. Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: DarkDays on November 13, 2016, 07:28:59 PM I cant rightly say they are scamming, I can say that they are exhibiting a behavior that at the very least could be designated as scummy. Overraking players for over a month isn't scamming? Stealing money that was supposed to go to reseed the BBJ isn't scamming? Selling customer's personal information to companies using that information to send phishing links to them isn't scamming? Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: DarkDays on November 18, 2016, 05:54:22 AM A user is now claiming that Betcoin has asked him to send them his ID. Considering Betcoin's VERY shady history, I have a bad feeling about this...
https://i.imgur.com/Tm7xR9U.jpg Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: TwitchySeal on November 18, 2016, 06:14:11 AM Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: DarkDays on November 21, 2016, 05:23:24 AM Here's an example of the FUN FRIENDLY and ever so PROFESSIONAL community in just one part of one day on Betcoin:
https://i.imgur.com/LET7Lww.jpg Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: needmoney on November 21, 2016, 02:37:59 PM Is anybody won from slots at betcoin ?
Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: game-protect on November 22, 2016, 02:41:15 AM Is anybody won from slots at betcoin ? Won, but not paid: Betcoin.ag extort 500 Bitcoins Jackpot winner for "settlement" (https://game-protect.com/betcoin-ag-extort-jackpot-settlement/) Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: TwitchySeal on November 22, 2016, 02:51:26 AM https://i.gyazo.com/998277e6e8903a0bd001d178cb65e30b.png
https://i.gyazo.com/afeee07f7701ecbc3518c6fab4dc6ca1.png https://i.gyazo.com/cec1a9cf21131d95abd77ba87ef1c09c.png Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: DarkDays on November 22, 2016, 03:11:10 AM So it was 100%, then it was 50%, now it's 0.
I guess the cash games must be booming with business and they don't need people to be starting tables. https://i.imgur.com/I7ESwNy.jpg ...oh. Guess not. Why else would they be taking away something that was helping them? Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: TwitchySeal on November 22, 2016, 03:35:28 AM It's possible they broke it and don't know how to fix it or when whoever can fix it has time to help them. It took him months to fix dice.
Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: DarkDays on November 22, 2016, 04:27:53 AM It's possible they broke it and don't know how to fix it or when whoever can fix it has time to help them. It took him months to fix dice. I'm told it was working after the big "update" a while back. It's also something that they could easily process manually. But I guess they are fine with having two tables of games running...well, actually now it'll be lower because there's no impetus for players to gamestart. What's lower than 2? So a site doesn't make money from cash games, doesn't make money from tournaments, doesn't have SNGs. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm I wonder how they are making money. Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: game-protect on November 22, 2016, 08:15:17 PM I'm told it was working after the big "update" a while back. It's also something that they could easily process manually. But I guess they are fine with having two tables of games running...well, actually now it'll be lower because there's no impetus for players to gamestart. What's lower than 2? So a site doesn't make money from cash games, doesn't make money from tournaments, doesn't have SNGs. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm I wonder how they are making money. From the jackpots they do not pay! The unsustainable 100% rakeback and their army of liars here on bitcointalk is to draw the victims in. They do not need a sustainable poker section, they make $100,000s with not paid, but collected jackpots! ;) Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: marlais on December 08, 2016, 12:23:09 PM I think whoever got Betcoin account e-mails is at it again. Anyone else get this e-mail?
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But I can inform you that betcoin.ag crystal clear owe the jackpot, because 1) The operator of betcoin.ag is the contract partner of the players 2) Player logged in and played with the betcoin.ag casino client 3) Jackpot winner deposited money to betcoin.ag 4) The juridical not valid Terms of Service on betcoin.ag website do not state one word about that Betsoft scam collect the jackpot contributions and is responsible for payment Bestsoft can be hold as well liable, because 1) They cooperate with the publicly proven betcoin.ag scam = criminal offense. And when you cooperate with criminals, then you are liable for the damage occured 2) Progressive jackpots that usually run in all online casinosare connected to Betsoft scam gaming software. Hence Betsoft collect the “the Glam Life” jackpot contributions from all connected casinos. If the jackpot hit in casino XY, then Betsoft send the money to XY and XY give the money to the winner. Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: game-protect on December 24, 2016, 03:40:38 AM - snip - You can't, of course, because I've gone on record saying that I don't agree with what GP is doing ITT and that I think he should stop because he isn't helping. What would help in your opinion, what is your goal? You not spamming your affiliate portal would help, in my opinion. - snip- Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: DarkDays on December 24, 2016, 05:54:07 PM - snip - You can't, of course, because I've gone on record saying that I don't agree with what GP is doing ITT and that I think he should stop because he isn't helping. What would help in your opinion, what is your goal? You not spamming your affiliate portal would help, in my opinion. - snip- Please post any proof that you've paid for legal action. Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: game-protect on December 25, 2016, 10:10:30 PM - snip - You can't, of course, because I've gone on record saying that I don't agree with what GP is doing ITT and that I think he should stop because he isn't helping. What would help in your opinion, what is your goal? You not spamming your affiliate portal would help, in my opinion. - snip- Please post any proof that you've paid for legal action. Only incompetent people like you, who have no knowledge about international online gaming structure, could think that getting criminal and court cases initiated would be time and cost free. ::) My goal is to hold Betcoin accountable for what they have done with the ultimate goal of having them NOT exit scam as Full Flush, Lock, AB, UB, FTP, JetSet, PokerSpot, and many many others have done. And, of course, if they do, to prevent the most people from losing money as humanly possible. However, as you are the criminal online gaming operator "destroyer" (as you claim above), you have now the opportunity to pay the required around $1,500 - $2,500 court fees to start a court case in regards to Full Flush Poker (https://game-protect.com/full-flush-poker-litigation/).As you claim that you are in the process to stop and hold betcoin.ag liable, I can inform that I know the applicable juristictions and responsible parties to sue. The only thing you have to do know (to let your claim come true), is to put the required 5 digit amount to an escrow account and I will organize everything. ;) As you claim that revenue streams are not required to pay legal proceeding expenses, it should be no problem for you to put the money on the table. Or maybe you are only a bla, bla, bla? Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: DarkDays on December 26, 2016, 06:15:39 PM - snip - You can't, of course, because I've gone on record saying that I don't agree with what GP is doing ITT and that I think he should stop because he isn't helping. What would help in your opinion, what is your goal? You not spamming your affiliate portal would help, in my opinion. - snip- Please post any proof that you've paid for legal action. Only incompetent people like you, who have no knowledge about international online gaming structure, could think that getting criminal and court cases initiated would be time and cost free. ::) My goal is to hold Betcoin accountable for what they have done with the ultimate goal of having them NOT exit scam as Full Flush, Lock, AB, UB, FTP, JetSet, PokerSpot, and many many others have done. And, of course, if they do, to prevent the most people from losing money as humanly possible. However, as you are the criminal online gaming operator "destroyer" (as you claim above), you have now the opportunity to pay the required around $1,500 - $2,500 court fees to start a court case in regards to Full Flush Poker (https://game-protect.com/full-flush-litigation-offer/).As you claim that you are in the process to stop and hold betcoin.ag liable, I can inform that I know the applicable juristictions and responsible parties to sue. The only thing you have to do know (to let your claim come true), is to put the required 5 digit amount to an escrow account and I will organize everything. ;) As you claim that revenue streams are not required to pay legal proceeding expenses, it should be no problem for you to put the money on the table. Or maybe you are only a bla, bla, bla? So you can't prove that you've done anything except for spaming your affiliate portal? Kinda figured that. There's a reason you got banned from 2p2. Move along. Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: game-protect on December 28, 2016, 05:35:08 AM - snip - You can't, of course, because I've gone on record saying that I don't agree with what GP is doing ITT and that I think he should stop because he isn't helping. What would help in your opinion, what is your goal? You not spamming your affiliate portal would help, in my opinion. - snip- Please post any proof that you've paid for legal action. Only incompetent people like you, who have no knowledge about international online gaming structure, could think that getting criminal and court cases initiated would be time and cost free. ::) My goal is to hold Betcoin accountable for what they have done with the ultimate goal of having them NOT exit scam as Full Flush, Lock, AB, UB, FTP, JetSet, PokerSpot, and many many others have done. And, of course, if they do, to prevent the most people from losing money as humanly possible. However, as you are the criminal online gaming operator "destroyer" (as you claim above), you have now the opportunity to pay the required around $1,500 - $2,500 court fees to start a court case in regards to Full Flush Poker (https://game-protect.com/full-flush-poker-litigation/).As you claim that you are in the process to stop and hold betcoin.ag liable, I can inform that I know the applicable juristictions and responsible parties to sue. The only thing you have to do know (to let your claim come true), is to put the required 5 digit amount to an escrow account and I will organize everything. ;) As you claim that revenue streams are not required to pay legal proceeding expenses, it should be no problem for you to put the money on the table. Or maybe you are only a bla, bla, bla? So you can't prove that you've done anything except for spaming your affiliate portal? Kinda figured that. There's a reason you got banned from 2p2. Move along. But as you claim it would be helpful for Game Protect to have no revenue stream to pay the expensive costs of online gaming investigation and legal proceedings, you are required to explain how? Otherwise you are nothing but a laughable bla bla bla joke figure! But never mind, I already know what you are and the internet is crowded with anonymous mouth heroes like you! Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: DarkDays on December 28, 2016, 07:25:59 AM - snip - You can't, of course, because I've gone on record saying that I don't agree with what GP is doing ITT and that I think he should stop because he isn't helping. What would help in your opinion, what is your goal? You not spamming your affiliate portal would help, in my opinion. - snip- Please post any proof that you've paid for legal action. Only incompetent people like you, who have no knowledge about international online gaming structure, could think that getting criminal and court cases initiated would be time and cost free. ::) My goal is to hold Betcoin accountable for what they have done with the ultimate goal of having them NOT exit scam as Full Flush, Lock, AB, UB, FTP, JetSet, PokerSpot, and many many others have done. And, of course, if they do, to prevent the most people from losing money as humanly possible. However, as you are the criminal online gaming operator "destroyer" (as you claim above), you have now the opportunity to pay the required around $1,500 - $2,500 court fees to start a court case in regards to Full Flush Poker (https://game-protect.com/full-flush-litigation-offer/).As you claim that you are in the process to stop and hold betcoin.ag liable, I can inform that I know the applicable juristictions and responsible parties to sue. The only thing you have to do know (to let your claim come true), is to put the required 5 digit amount to an escrow account and I will organize everything. ;) As you claim that revenue streams are not required to pay legal proceeding expenses, it should be no problem for you to put the money on the table. Or maybe you are only a bla, bla, bla? So you can't prove that you've done anything except for spaming your affiliate portal? Kinda figured that. There's a reason you got banned from 2p2. Move along. But as you claim it would be helpful for Game Protect to have no revenue stream to pay the expensive costs of online gaming investigation and legal proceedings, you are required to explain how? Otherwise you are nothing but a laughable bla bla bla joke figure! But never mind, I already know what you are and the internet is crowded with anonymous mouth heroes like you! Again, I'm asking you to show proof that you are using the money you are receiving in the way that you claim you are. You refuse to do so and instead bring up irrelevant nonsense and claim I said things I never did. I only said one thing. Show proof. Show proof Just show proof that you aren't a lier. That you aren't making all of this up in an attempt to spam your affiliate portal. You got kicked off of 2p2 because they knew that you were. Just show proof. Don't be like Betcoin and make things up and go offtopic. Be honest. Show proof of the legal action that you have paid for w/r/t these illegal offshore gambling sites that have ripped the players off. Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: game-protect on December 28, 2016, 10:15:46 PM You not spamming your affiliate portal would help, in my opinion. You not trying to jump in with incorrect info (post #23) in order to spam your sigspam would help, in my opinion. These are the things that got you kicked off of 2p2, in my opinion. You are not able to explain why or how it would be helpful to have no revenue stream to pay the expensive costs of online gaming investigation and legal proceedings, because your claim is nonsense and has nothing to do with the reality!My goal is to hold Betcoin accountable for what they have done with the ultimate goal of having them NOT exit scam as Full Flush, Lock, AB, UB, FTP, JetSet, PokerSpot, and many many others have done. And, of course, if they do, to prevent the most people from losing money as humanly possible. Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: game-protect on December 28, 2016, 10:24:51 PM You not spamming your affiliate portal would help, in my opinion. You not trying to jump in with incorrect info (post #23) in order to spam your sigspam would help, in my opinion. These are the things that got you kicked off of 2p2, in my opinion. Again, I'm asking you to show proof that you are trying to hold betcoin.ag accountable and how? My goal is to hold Betcoin accountable for what they have done with the ultimate goal of having them NOT exit scam as Full Flush, Lock, AB, UB, FTP, JetSet, PokerSpot, and many many others have done. And, of course, if they do, to prevent the most people from losing money as humanly possible. You refuse to do so and instead bring up irrelevant nonsense and bad mouth Game Protect. I only said one thing. Show proof. Show proof Just show proof that you aren't a liar. That you aren't making all of this up in an attempt to bad mouth Game Protect. Just show proof. Don't be like Betcoin and make things up and go offtopic. Be honest. Show proof of how you are trying to hold betcoin.ag accountable and how? Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: mOgliE on December 28, 2016, 11:32:39 PM So it was 100%, then it was 50%, now it's 0. I guess the cash games must be booming with business and they don't need people to be starting tables. https://i.imgur.com/I7ESwNy.jpg ...oh. Guess not. Why else would they be taking away something that was helping them? Wow... where do you find your data? That's not really the busy type... In fact I don't see how a site can continue existing with so little users Oo Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: DarkDays on December 28, 2016, 11:54:19 PM So it was 100%, then it was 50%, now it's 0. I guess the cash games must be booming with business and they don't need people to be starting tables. https://i.imgur.com/I7ESwNy.jpg ...oh. Guess not. Why else would they be taking away something that was helping them? Wow... where do you find your data? That's not really the busy type... In fact I don't see how a site can continue existing with so little users Oo http://pokerscout.com/ Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: game-protect on January 05, 2017, 09:14:20 AM So you can't prove that you've done anything except for spaming your affiliate portal? First thing I expect from a secret secret agent is the ability to read. Why do you not read on the Game Protect website?Kinda figured that. There's a reason you got banned from 2p2. Move along. There you can find the proof of what I have done so far, i.e.: Full Flush Poker Litigation 70:30, Equity Poker Network down (https://game-protect.com/full-flush-poker-litigation/) + Full Flush Poker info and Game Protect statement (https://game-protect.com/full-flush-poker-info/) + Win Cake Poker + Juicy Stakes (https://game-protect.com/win-cake-poker/) + Warnings! (https://game-protect.com/online-gambling-scams/) + News (http://game-protect.com/online-gambling-news/) Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: game-protect on January 08, 2017, 02:55:41 AM CUT, CUT, CUT is the new motto at betcoin.ag :D
Hi, I would like to know why I only got paid 0.123 BTC when I counted 146 posts in stage 14 ??? So what amount are you expecting, the campaign reduces its maximum posts on the stage 14 as what OP mentioned on his lasts posts and as what he mentioned also here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1571148.msg17347855#msg17347855 for the maximum payout of each rank including the 0.02 btc for the avatar. Hope it clarifies you. Oh well I didnt see that. Terms shouldn't be changed in the middle of an ongoing stage, should have waited for stage 14 imo.. also should have announced it in the #1 post with big red letters. At least I won the 25 casino bonus :P I don't understand why they cut it so much tho. According to my calculations now a campaing like bitmixer is paying more (0.035 per week, 0.035x4=0.14 per month aprox) Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: game-protect on January 13, 2017, 01:21:37 PM Customers complained about delayed and non-existing rakeback payments from Xiaoxiao and he deleted posts and logged his thread. The end is near?
Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: kynaz on January 13, 2017, 01:24:47 PM this site is legit guys ? ???
Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: TwitchySeal on January 14, 2017, 09:43:37 PM I'm back.
Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: game-protect on January 17, 2017, 07:09:17 AM Just want to inform the Bitcoin community that there is no reason to play at betcoin.ag. They have only 20 players in average and 24 hours peak is only 55.
Yes, you can play huge Winning Poker Network (WPN) tournaments on betcoin.ag. But if you like to play big tournaments, you can simply play on any of the WPN skins and then you will have also a huge pool of cash game and Sit & Go players: - Players on average 950 (opposed to 20) - 24 hours peak 1531 (opposed to 55) Please tell me what should be the reason/advantage to play at betcoin.ag, I can not get it at all? Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: cjmoles on January 17, 2017, 09:33:32 PM I'm back. Go back under your rock! Did they remove the ankle bracelet too? Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: cjmoles on January 17, 2017, 09:38:38 PM Just want to inform the Bitcoin community that there is no reason to play at betcoin.ag. They have only 20 players in average and 24 hours peak is only 55. Yes, you can play huge Winning Poker Network (WPN) tournaments on betcoin.ag. But if you like to play big tournaments, you can simply play on any of the WPN skins and then you will have also a huge pool of cash game and Sit & Go players: - Players on average 950 (opposed to 20) - 24 hours peak 1531 (opposed to 55) And if you register with Game Protect, then you will have also a consumer protection service included: https://game-protect.com/poker-host-account-registration/ Please tell me what should be the reason / advantage to play at betcoin.ag, I can not get it at all? This is why it is beneficial to play against small fields....look at the overlay! Easy money! http://i68.tinypic.com/28bsoyr.png Oh, plus Betcoin.ag provides the WPN tournament player pool too....which is just as easy! http://i67.tinypic.com/50s5ra.png That's why playing at Betcoin.ag is so great....and if people register at game-protect, then they are getting ripped off without even a chance to get a return on their investments! Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: TwitchySeal on January 17, 2017, 10:06:31 PM Just want to inform the Bitcoin community that there is no reason to play at betcoin.ag. They have only 20 players in average and 24 hours peak is only 55. Yes, you can play huge Winning Poker Network (WPN) tournaments on betcoin.ag. But if you like to play big tournaments, you can simply play on any of the WPN skins and then you will have also a huge pool of cash game and Sit & Go players: - Players on average 950 (opposed to 20) - 24 hours peak 1531 (opposed to 55) And if you register with Game Protect, then you will have also a consumer protection service included: https://game-protect.com/poker-host-account-registration/ Please tell me what should be the reason / advantage to play at betcoin.ag, I can not get it at all? This is why it is beneficial to play against small fields....look at the overlay! Easy money! Almost as if poker players don't think the value of the daily coin overlays are worth all the bullshit that comes with playing on Betcoin. Keep up the good work. https://i.snag.gy/QPDihB.jpg Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: cjmoles on January 17, 2017, 11:00:08 PM Just want to inform the Bitcoin community that there is no reason to play at betcoin.ag. They have only 20 players in average and 24 hours peak is only 55. Yes, you can play huge Winning Poker Network (WPN) tournaments on betcoin.ag. But if you like to play big tournaments, you can simply play on any of the WPN skins and then you will have also a huge pool of cash game and Sit & Go players: - Players on average 950 (opposed to 20) - 24 hours peak 1531 (opposed to 55) And if you register with Game Protect, then you will have also a consumer protection service included: https://game-protect.com/poker-host-account-registration/ Please tell me what should be the reason / advantage to play at betcoin.ag, I can not get it at all? This is why it is beneficial to play against small fields....look at the overlay! Easy money! Almost as if poker players don't think the value of the daily coin overlays are worth all the bullshit that comes with playing on Betcoin. Keep up the good work. https://i.snag.gy/QPDihB.jpg Really? You're gonna pull up a non credible Sharkscope algorithm? If you knew what you were looking at then you'd realize that playing satellites (which is what I do) skews those curves....LOL... http://i67.tinypic.com/rkociw.png http://i63.tinypic.com/2r39y51.png http://i65.tinypic.com/30w1ojl.png http://i66.tinypic.com/6yjsj5.png http://i63.tinypic.com/2dqsttt.png That's just a few.... Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: TwitchySeal on January 17, 2017, 11:05:51 PM Just want to inform the Bitcoin community that there is no reason to play at betcoin.ag. They have only 20 players in average and 24 hours peak is only 55. Yes, you can play huge Winning Poker Network (WPN) tournaments on betcoin.ag. But if you like to play big tournaments, you can simply play on any of the WPN skins and then you will have also a huge pool of cash game and Sit & Go players: - Players on average 950 (opposed to 20) - 24 hours peak 1531 (opposed to 55) And if you register with Game Protect, then you will have also a consumer protection service included: https://game-protect.com/poker-host-account-registration/ Please tell me what should be the reason / advantage to play at betcoin.ag, I can not get it at all? This is why it is beneficial to play against small fields....look at the overlay! Easy money! Almost as if poker players don't think the value of the daily coin overlays are worth all the bullshit that comes with playing on Betcoin. Keep up the good work. https://i.snag.gy/QPDihB.jpg Really? You're gonna pull up a non credible Sharkscope algorithm? If you knew what you were looking at then you'd realize that playing satellites (which is what I do) skews those curves....LOL... Those are just for 1,867 of your previous non-satty WPN tournaments. I don't think you satellited into many of them since your ave buyin is $1.52. I never use sharkscope to needle fish, but I'm making an exception for you since I know full well you've been around for a while and aren't oblivious to how the poker world works - yet you continue to try and skew the perception of those who don't with your Betcoin shilling. Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: cjmoles on January 17, 2017, 11:28:08 PM --snip-- Really? You're gonna pull up a non credible Sharkscope algorithm? If you knew what you were looking at then you'd realize that playing satellites (which is what I do) skews those curves....LOL... Those are just for 1,867 of your previous non-satty WPN tournaments. I don't think you satellited into many of them since your ave buyin is $1.52. I never use sharkscope to needle fish, but I'm making an exception for you since I know full well you've been around for a while and aren't oblivious to how the poker world works - yet you continue to try and skew the perception of those who don't with your Betcoin shilling. I only showed you a couple days worth of playing the satties and the FEW (I have more) I showed you amount to over $320....Maybe you need to rethink your understanding of the Sharkscope algorithm a little....LOL....Maybe a little extrapolation will help. Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: TwitchySeal on January 18, 2017, 07:00:34 PM Quote from: Bitcoin Forum A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by the starter of a self-moderated topic. There are no rules of self-moderation, so this deletion cannot be appealed. You can create a new topic if you are unsatisfied with this one. If the topic-starter is scamming, post about it in Scam Accusations. Quote Why aren't you posting from your main account? I thoght maybe you lost password, but it shows you as online right now. https://i.snag.gy/nav7iF.jpg --snip-- Really? You're gonna pull up a non credible Sharkscope algorithm? If you knew what you were looking at then you'd realize that playing satellites (which is what I do) skews those curves....LOL... Those are just for 1,867 of your previous non-satty WPN tournaments. I don't think you satellited into many of them since your ave buyin is $1.52. I never use sharkscope to needle fish, but I'm making an exception for you since I know full well you've been around for a while and aren't oblivious to how the poker world works - yet you continue to try and skew the perception of those who don't with your Betcoin shilling. I only showed you a couple days worth of playing the satties and the FEW (I have more) I showed you amount to over $320....Maybe you need to rethink your understanding of the Sharkscope algorithm a little....LOL....Maybe a little extrapolation will help. https://i.snag.gy/QPDihB.jpg Title: Re: ►►BETCOIN.AG- [Uncensored] Ƀitcoin Poker, Sports, Casino & Affiliate Community◄◄ Post by: TwitchySeal on January 19, 2017, 02:29:07 AM hmmm...
Everything has been running faster and more efficiently than ever before over the last 48 hours. A majority of delayed/incomplete rakeback has been processed with about 30% still pending due to P2P transfers being stuck due to API issues. Title: Re: ►►BETCOIN.AG- [Uncensored] Ƀitcoin Poker, Sports, Casino & Affiliate Community◄◄ Post by: game-protect on January 19, 2017, 04:45:23 AM There are really people who actually give betcoin.ag an A- for their sports book: :o
"A" rated books How could a publicly proven scam be rated with A ???nitrogensports.eu (http://nitrogensports.eu) A+ (2012) betcoin.ag (http://betcoin.ag) A- (2013) The ratings pertain to the sports book only. There haven't been any problems on that end. This does not matter! If the operator is a publicly proven scam, there is no A rating possible. I'm not qualified to determine the merits of casino/poker play. Sports betting is the focus. It is the merit of the operator and no one else! But for m0gliE it is sufficient, as he also promoted this scam. As I said above, I respect your opinion but cannot consider casino/poker play. I'm willing to discuss the issue all that you want in the rating's thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=717790.msg8109572#msg8109572). I don't want to clog up this thread with one topic, Betcoin.ag, unless the OP agrees. Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: cjmoles on January 22, 2017, 07:44:11 PM Quote from: Bitcoin Forum A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by the starter of a self-moderated topic. There are no rules of self-moderation, so this deletion cannot be appealed. You can create a new topic if you are unsatisfied with this one. If the topic-starter is scamming, post about it in Scam Accusations. Quote Why aren't you posting from your main account? I thoght maybe you lost password, but it shows you as online right now. https://i.snag.gy/nav7iF.jpg --snip-- Really? You're gonna pull up a non credible Sharkscope algorithm? If you knew what you were looking at then you'd realize that playing satellites (which is what I do) skews those curves....LOL... Those are just for 1,867 of your previous non-satty WPN tournaments. I don't think you satellited into many of them since your ave buyin is $1.52. I never use sharkscope to needle fish, but I'm making an exception for you since I know full well you've been around for a while and aren't oblivious to how the poker world works - yet you continue to try and skew the perception of those who don't with your Betcoin shilling. I only showed you a couple days worth of playing the satties and the FEW (I have more) I showed you amount to over $320....Maybe you need to rethink your understanding of the Sharkscope algorithm a little....LOL....Maybe a little extrapolation will help. https://i.snag.gy/QPDihB.jpg That's funny....why aren't the games I have listed above.....and all the other games I haven't listed....included in your statistics? Are you cutting and pasting over information again? Why did you cut them out? Are you trying to say that the games I posted above are not real??? I don't get it? LOL....Wow! You will stop at no level of deception will you? Are you and game-protect making large enough profits to rationalize all the deception now? Title: Re: ►►BETCOIN.AG- [Uncensored] Ƀitcoin Poker, Sports, Casino & Affiliate Community◄◄ Post by: game-protect on January 24, 2017, 12:01:03 AM Oh oh, Alexa rank down 27,055 http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/betcoin.ag
-> this explains their new motto CUT, CUT, CUT :D Title: Re: ♠BETCOIN.AG♠👺 OFFICIAL THREAD 👹 The Poker Sports Casino 🖕UNCENSORED🖕 Post by: game-protect on January 29, 2017, 10:34:29 PM So it was 100%, then it was 50%, now it's 0. I guess the cash games must be booming with business and they don't need people to be starting tables. https://i.imgur.com/I7ESwNy.jpg ...oh. Guess not. Why else would they be taking away something that was helping them? Wow... where do you find your data? That's not really the busy type... In fact I don't see how a site can continue existing with so little users Oo Title: Re: ►►BETCOIN.AG- [Uncensored] Ƀitcoin Poker, Sports, Casino & Affiliate Community◄◄ Post by: game-protect on January 31, 2017, 12:49:43 AM my email was hacked 4weeks ago... they closed my account as i requested"tbh they closed it without any proof it was actually me the owner" but w/e then they refused to allow me to create a new account... so i had to get a phonecard for my old cellphone so i could reclaim my email... 5days ago they reactivated my account and even though i now have my email... the "request new pw" for betcoin isn't working... i sent a ticket 4days ago so they could help and still no reply... i was going to talk with live support today to see if they could forward it but the site seems to be down "Forbidden You don't have permission to access / on this server." i have never liked betcoin but after losing my accounts i realized no matter how shitty they are and all the other wpn skins it's really the only choice for americans... ignition may be a little better but it took 3weeks just to get verified to cashout and everytime i play there it's a new hassle... betcoin brian is the one that refused to allow me a new account... i didn't take screenshots so believe what ever... after telling him 2times my email was hacked i couldn't access it he kept repeating "why didn't you just change your password instead of having your account closed" just go to wpn homepage there is basically 0 requirments for those monkeys who work there... and the sad thing is... betcoin brian and betcoin "andrew" are the names of the supervisors you talk to on any other skin... americas cardroom, betcoin, blackchip etc... with only 1network for me to play where i live everyskin is ran by the same monkeys who run betcoin i love poker, but i guess i will not being playing it until there are more options oh and a few months back when i sent a report to them, saying tournament tickets could be exploited for entries into tournaments they're not meant for staff told me it was nothing... since it's nothing i'll posting here... change user id https://www.betcoin.ag/user/xxxx/dashboard/poker_tour_tickets/register/xxxxx if you paste this into your browser with the id of a 2seat gtd you will exchange a step1 ticket for this entry... i haven't tried this enough to know which ones you can or can't enter but it works 100% for 2seat dailys you can find tournament ids in the pokerlobby Title: Re: ►►BETCOIN.AG- [Uncensored] Ƀitcoin Poker, Sports, Casino & Affiliate Community◄◄ Post by: casinobonusgiveaway on January 31, 2017, 12:59:37 AM Oh oh, Alexa rank down 27,055 http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/betcoin.ag -> this explains their new motto CUT, CUT, CUT :D Their biggest competitor, nitrogen's alexa rank is 50k, 10k in US. Nitrogen must be the biggest bitcoin gambling site for US, but their live betting is poor, if they enhance it, no site will be better than it. Also nitrogen has much more active poker players. http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/nitrogensports.eu Title: Re: ►►BETCOIN.AG- [Uncensored] Ƀitcoin Poker, Sports, Casino & Affiliate Community◄◄ Post by: game-protect on January 31, 2017, 01:41:22 AM This is good news about NitrogenSports' Alexa rank, as I offer them. :)
Pokerscout.com data compared: Betcoin.ag: 7 day average: 20, 24 hour peak: 55 NitrogenSports: 7 day average: 14, 24 hour peak: 40 -> I would be not surprised if betcoin.ag somehow deliver faked data! Alexa rank data compared: Betcoin.ag: Global 147,318 (-34,915), US 53,062 NitrogenSports: Global 51,089 (+19,792), US 10,966 Title: Re: ►►BETCOIN.AG- [Uncensored] Ƀitcoin Poker, Sports, Casino & Affiliate Community◄◄ Post by: TwitchySeal on January 31, 2017, 02:10:41 AM I don't know how this stuff works, but found this list as one of their top linked sources:
http://ip-173-201-142-193.ip.secureserver.net/Alexa/Alexa_28.html pretty close on the list... 141908 betsoftgaming.com 142221 betcoin.ag Title: Re: ►►BETCOIN.AG- [Uncensored] Ƀitcoin Poker, Sports, Casino & Affiliate Community◄◄ Post by: metropolia on January 31, 2017, 02:56:54 AM I don't know how this stuff works, but found this list as one of their top linked sources: http://ip-173-201-142-193.ip.secureserver.net/Alexa/Alexa_28.html pretty close on the list... 141908 betsoftgaming.com 142221 betcoin.ag They don't have connection but both are not paying jackpot. Betsoft is a casino game supplier which offers various casino games to all sites. Betcoin is just a site. Title: Re: ►►BETCOIN.AG- [Uncensored] Ƀitcoin Poker, Sports, Casino & Affiliate Community◄◄ Post by: TwitchySeal on January 31, 2017, 03:02:35 AM I don't know how this stuff works, but found this list as one of their top linked sources: http://ip-173-201-142-193.ip.secureserver.net/Alexa/Alexa_28.html pretty close on the list... 141908 betsoftgaming.com 142221 betcoin.ag They don't have connection but both are not paying jackpot. Betsoft is a casino game supplier which offers various casino games to all sites. Betcoin is just a site. In addition to the way they (attempted) to cover up the Betsoft Jackpot (Betcoin blamed Betsoft, Betsoft remained silent) there's this poker connection also: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1616152.msg16798099#msg16798099 Title: Re: ►►BETCOIN.AG- [Uncensored] Ƀitcoin Poker, Sports, Casino & Affiliate Community◄◄ Post by: game-protect on January 31, 2017, 03:37:26 AM I don't know how this stuff works, but found this list as one of their top linked sources: http://ip-173-201-142-193.ip.secureserver.net/Alexa/Alexa_28.html pretty close on the list... 141908 betsoftgaming.com 142221 betcoin.ag They don't have connection but both are not paying jackpot. Betsoft is a casino game supplier which offers various casino games to all sites. Betcoin is just a site. Quote I hereby confirm that I have effectively cooperated and reached an agreement with Betcoin.ag and Betsoft in relation to a dispute over a jackpot payout. Even the jackpot "settlement" states an agreement with Betsoft, even though betcoin.ag is solely the contract partner if you play slots at betcoin.ag.And why do betcoin.ag persist to offer Betsoft scam gaming software, even after Betsoft allegedly did not pay? I mean almost everyone would quit after this desaster, wouldn't they? In addition, the army of 70 promoters here on bitcointalk, while they have a very low poker traffic compared. This does not really look like a standalone site. There are a lot of things indicating that they are connected! Title: Re: ►►BETCOIN.AG- [Uncensored] Ƀitcoin Poker, Sports, Casino & Affiliate Community◄◄ Post by: metropolia on January 31, 2017, 04:19:06 AM I don't know how this stuff works, but found this list as one of their top linked sources: http://ip-173-201-142-193.ip.secureserver.net/Alexa/Alexa_28.html pretty close on the list... 141908 betsoftgaming.com 142221 betcoin.ag They don't have connection but both are not paying jackpot. Betsoft is a casino game supplier which offers various casino games to all sites. Betcoin is just a site. Quote I hereby confirm that I have effectively cooperated and reached an agreement with Betcoin.ag and Betsoft in relation to a dispute over a jackpot payout. Even the jackpot "settlement" states an agreement with Betsoft, even though betcoin.ag is solely the contract partner if you play slots at betcoin.ag.And why do betcoin.ag persist to offer Betsoft scam gaming software, even after Betsoft allegedly did not pay? I mean almost everyone would quit after this desaster, wouldn't they? In addition, the army of 70 promoters here on bitcointalk, while they have a very low poker traffic compared. This does not really look like a standalone site. There are a lot of things indicating that they are connected... Betsoft should be built and found before betcoin, casino game suppliers like betsoft do not need to operate a casino, many casinos(min 30, or 50, or 100?) implement betsoft games, which they can easily profit 100-1000 BTC per month(suppliers usually charge 10%-20% of net profit), they don't need to run a new site like betcoin, you also said betcoin is losing money. Why they run a casino with monthly losses? Title: Re: ►►BETCOIN.AG- [Uncensored] Ƀitcoin Poker, Sports, Casino & Affiliate Community◄◄ Post by: game-protect on January 31, 2017, 05:05:34 AM I don't know how this stuff works, but found this list as one of their top linked sources: http://ip-173-201-142-193.ip.secureserver.net/Alexa/Alexa_28.html pretty close on the list... 141908 betsoftgaming.com 142221 betcoin.ag They don't have connection but both are not paying jackpot. Betsoft is a casino game supplier which offers various casino games to all sites. Betcoin is just a site. Quote I hereby confirm that I have effectively cooperated and reached an agreement with Betcoin.ag and Betsoft in relation to a dispute over a jackpot payout. Even the jackpot "settlement" states an agreement with Betsoft, even though betcoin.ag is solely the contract partner if you play slots at betcoin.ag.And why do betcoin.ag persist to offer Betsoft scam gaming software, even after Betsoft allegedly did not pay? I mean almost everyone would quit after this desaster, wouldn't they? In addition, the army of 70 promoters here on bitcointalk, while they have a very low poker traffic compared. This does not really look like a standalone site. There are a lot of things indicating that they are connected... Betsoft should be built and found before betcoin, casino game suppliers like betsoft do not need to operate a casino, many casinos(min 30, or 50, or 100?) implement betsoft games, which they can easily profit 100-1000 BTC per month(suppliers usually charge 10%-20% of net profit), they don't need to run a new site like betcoin, you also said betcoin is losing money. Why they run a casino with monthly losses? Betsoft rent their software to anonymous and criminal casinos, that would perfectly fit with the behaviour of betcoin.ag. Betsoft <-> Betcoin If Betsoft make up to USD 1 million per month, why did they not pay the jasonort jackpot? Does this make any sense? It was at least important for betcoin.ag/Betsoft that jasonort publicly state everything is fine. Why all the trouble if Betsoft make that much money and not simply pay the jackpot? If you offer Betsoft scam gaming software and they do not pay a crystal clear won 500 or even 1000 Bitcoins jackpot, then the only reason I can see why betcoin.ag would continue to offer Betsoft is because they are connected. Betcoin.ag can never grow again after the jackpot fiasko, their business is destroyed, but as a thank you they continue to work with Betsoft? They continue to transfer the progressive jackpot contributions to Betsoft, knowing that Betsoft did not pay? Does this make any sense, if betcoin.ag is not connected to Betsoft? Title: Re: ►►BETCOIN.AG- [Uncensored] Ƀitcoin Poker, Sports, Casino & Affiliate Community◄◄ Post by: TwitchySeal on January 31, 2017, 06:43:58 AM I don't know how this stuff works, but found this list as one of their top linked sources: http://ip-173-201-142-193.ip.secureserver.net/Alexa/Alexa_28.html pretty close on the list... 141908 betsoftgaming.com 142221 betcoin.ag They don't have connection but both are not paying jackpot. Betsoft is a casino game supplier which offers various casino games to all sites. Betcoin is just a site. Quote I hereby confirm that I have effectively cooperated and reached an agreement with Betcoin.ag and Betsoft in relation to a dispute over a jackpot payout. Even the jackpot "settlement" states an agreement with Betsoft, even though betcoin.ag is solely the contract partner if you play slots at betcoin.ag.And why do betcoin.ag persist to offer Betsoft scam gaming software, even after Betsoft allegedly did not pay? I mean almost everyone would quit after this desaster, wouldn't they? In addition, the army of 70 promoters here on bitcointalk, while they have a very low poker traffic compared. This does not really look like a standalone site. There are a lot of things indicating that they are connected... Betsoft should be built and found before betcoin, casino game suppliers like betsoft do not need to operate a casino, many casinos(min 30, or 50, or 100?) implement betsoft games, which they can easily profit 100-1000 BTC per month(suppliers usually charge 10%-20% of net profit), they don't need to run a new site like betcoin, you also said betcoin is losing money. Why they run a casino with monthly losses? Betsoft definitely came way before Betcoin. But why wouldn't they operate casinos on their own? Just because they don't need to? They also don't need to be super non-transparent and refuse to ever communicate directly with players in any way. Title: Re: ►►BETCOIN.AG- [Uncensored] Ƀitcoin Poker, Sports, Casino & Affiliate Community◄◄ Post by: game-protect on February 06, 2017, 03:26:48 AM Totally approve of this rb service. I'm at gold now so that's 63% and climbing! The great thing is that Xiao helps me out when support is backed up, and he's always answered my messages within 24hrs. Support is "backed up" with only 20 micro stakes players in average, is a poverty certificate!You can have at WPN skins 27% flat rakeback + leaderboard prizes + $55 tournament entry weekly. Hard to believe you can climb much higher with the very low micro stakes traffic on betcoin.ag. ::) Title: Re: ►►BETCOIN.AG- [Uncensored] Ƀitcoin Poker, Sports, Casino & Affiliate Community◄◄ Post by: game-protect on February 08, 2017, 04:25:47 AM Betcoin still one of the greatest and trusted house, so why you reserve this bid for full member and greater??? Involve newbie in this process will give the Betcoin Ag the opportunity to get a label ambassador from the newbie position to legendary!!! Betcoin will guarantee the engagement for a long period 😉 What I suggest! Betcoin Ag must Review the policy of the ad compaign service! Regards :D :D :D 20 players in average is doubtless a sign of "greatest" and did not pay a crystal clear won 500 BTC jackpot is doubtless a sign of "trusted"! Like war is peace and the sun is moon! Title: Re: ►►BETCOIN.AG- [Uncensored] Ƀitcoin Poker, Sports, Casino & Affiliate Community◄◄ Post by: game-protect on February 09, 2017, 11:59:09 PM Oh oh, Alexa rank down 27,055 http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/betcoin.ag Meanwhile 161,749 - 54,242 = 50% down within 2 months!-> this explains their new motto CUT, CUT, CUT :D RUN, RUN, RUN, the last will be bitten by the dogs! :D Title: Re: ►►BETCOIN.AG- [Uncensored] Ƀitcoin Poker, Sports, Casino & Affiliate Community◄◄ Post by: TwitchySeal on February 14, 2017, 10:20:14 PM Well they instantly deleted this just now.
Quote What new addition would you like to see added to Betcoin? I would like to see more transparency from Betcoin management. For example: the results of the independent audit of Betsoft (or an explanation of why the audit never happened) as well as the relationship between Betsoft and Betcoin, both of which were promised by Betcoin Jessica and Andrew last July. A response to the accusations made in this post would be excellent. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1667860.msg16745828#msg16745828 https://i.snag.gy/1YSNg8.jpg ^^^none of this ever happened Title: Re: ►►BETCOIN.AG- [Uncensored] Ƀitcoin Poker, Sports, Casino & Affiliate Community◄◄ Post by: game-protect on February 17, 2017, 04:49:09 AM I think the relationship between the betcoin.ag scam and Betsoft scam gaming software should be meanwhile very clear to everyone:
1) Betcoin.ag sent progressive jackpot contributions to Betsoft 2) Betsoft did not pay crystal clear won 500 Bitcoins jackpot 3) Instead of kicking off Betsoft, betcoin.ag continue to send progressive jackpot contributions! Only someone part of Betsoft would act this way, or not? Title: Re: ►►BETCOIN.AG- [Uncensored] Ƀitcoin Poker, Sports, Casino & Affiliate Community◄◄ Post by: game-protect on February 21, 2017, 12:46:06 PM Crooks everywhere!
UltraPlay eSports LIVE BETTING Schedule; Available Only @ Betcoin & VitalBet! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1221001.0) Dear eSports fans, Please find the schedule for today's live games ONLY at http://VitalBet.com & https:/ /sports.Betcoin.ag - snip - Vitalbet - The official Sportsbook and Casino of Manny Pacquiao Betcoin- The most advanced Bitcoin- Sprotsbook and Casino Website in the World! Title: Re: ►►BETCOIN.AG- [Uncensored] Ƀitcoin Poker, Sports, Casino & Affiliate Community◄◄ Post by: game-protect on February 23, 2017, 01:22:04 PM My Betcoin.ag review (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1545995.0)
Hi Please before deposit on this site read this: I Have made some profit on betcoin.ag sportbook and casino. Therefore they blocked my possibility to place a single bet on sportbook and my withdrawals was so long, I was required to "beg" them my money back. Fortunately they have paid BUT I dislike this disrespect. All poker/casino/sportbook sites must make money to live and that's correct but that's unfair to prevent players as soon as they wan ( around 1BTC) so not a fortune. I have opened an account on 80% bookmakers available in the world except russians and asian's. They can limit you after some weeks if you make profit and that's fair but limit means reasonable stakes. On Betcoin.ag I cannot stake anything (0,00000BTC). To finish my council if you want to gamble some bitcoins it's to play on nitrogensports.eu because they are awesome even if you win or lose. I have been lucky on Dice, some parlays on sportbook (few times 2/3/4 BTC) and wan on poker too ( I have some skills on gambling or it seems too) and they always paid me in a short time. I never needed to ask them for a payment. Title: Re: ►►BETCOIN.AG- [Uncensored] Ƀitcoin Poker, Sports, Casino & Affiliate Community◄◄ Post by: game-protect on April 12, 2017, 01:02:38 AM Latest betcoin.ag pokerscout.com data: 24 Hr Peak: 45 | 7 Day Avg: 16
-> dropped again! Title: Re: ►►BETCOIN.AG- [Uncensored] Ƀitcoin Poker, Sports, Casino & Affiliate Community◄◄ Post by: game-protect on April 20, 2017, 03:25:20 PM Seriously... I joined within the past month and received only a nominal, arbitrary amount in rakeback from XiaXiao. I've rake a lot and am not playing until I get the full amount, otherwise I was lured to the site under false pretenses and I refuse to line the pockets of anyone who does not follow through with their promises in matters such as these. Has anyone been under payed via the bonus chips released? They seem to be releasing fewer chips than advertised. They say they are released at 15% rake but it is really about 12-13% in practice. Update please. What were the results of your meeting "later today" (almost 4 days ago as of this post)? Title: Re: ►►BETCOIN.AG- [Uncensored] Ƀitcoin Poker, Sports, Casino & Affiliate Community◄◄ Post by: ungod on April 26, 2017, 02:35:20 AM Xiao is 5 weeks behind on paying rakeback, and is once again locking his thread to keep people from complaining publicly.
Title: Re: ►►BETCOIN.AG- [Uncensored] Ƀitcoin Poker, Sports, Casino & Affiliate Community◄◄ Post by: game-protect on April 26, 2017, 07:58:29 PM Xiao is 5 weeks behind on paying rakeback, and is once again locking his thread to keep people from complaining publicly. It was only a question of time until this fraud scheme will fail!When the traffic decreases with 70 signature promoters here on BitcoinTalk, then you can be rest assured what will happen sooner or later. The collected but not paid 500 Bitcoins jackpot is probably spent now and they have cash flow issue. Title: Re: ►►BETCOIN.AG- [Uncensored] Ƀitcoin Poker, Sports, Casino & Affiliate Community◄◄ Post by: DarkDays on April 28, 2017, 05:24:46 AM Xiao is 5 weeks behind on paying rakeback, and is once again locking his thread to keep people from complaining publicly. I see he hasn't logged into his account in a week now either. Lay down with snakes, you're gonna get bit kids. Title: Re: ►►BETCOIN.AG- [Uncensored] Ƀitcoin Poker, Sports, Casino & Affiliate Community◄◄ Post by: game-protect on May 06, 2017, 06:11:36 AM Affiliate and partner in crime Xiaoxiao defrauded betcoin.ag scam customers!
Hello everyone, it's time for me to come out with the truth about the recent "delayed" rakeback situation. This is not easy to do, especially since some of you guys viewed me as a helping hand to resolve issues or expedite support tickets and be an advocate for the players. The truth is that I have personally mismanaged players' rakeback funds because I have gambled most of it away; I have a gambling problem. I'm sure Betcoin can attest to this by simply looking at my past gambling records on the site, and most of the cashouts I made were to a few other bitcoin gambling sites which I lost. The reason I made up the excuse of "delayed rakeback stats" was to buy time so I can get loans or use continued incoming affiliate funds to try to make back what I needed to cover. In the past you may have noticed there's been similar "delays," though not as prolonged as this one. Many of which (if not all) were because of my gambling habits in which I lost the funds which I should have set aside to pay out players at the end of the week. However, I was always able to some how come up with it either taking out loans with every credit line that I have, or somehow winning it back via gambling, which is why this program has been afloat for so long amidst my gambling issues. I hope you all could see that this delay of player rakeback was not the result of any malicious intent. I've always tried to help the players under this program to the best of my abilities, a lot of time intervening with support and helping expedite issues they may be having with the ever enhancing Betcoin platform, or sending early rakeback when players needed it. Currently I am working with Betcoin and a few possible investors to figure out a way to appease all those that haven't received their due rakeback from this program in the past few months. I have exact records of who is owed what amount. I apologize and feel incredibly bad for all those that were eagerly awaiting their rakeback, because I've been there before myself. In no way shape or form have I ever intended to "scam" anyone. As you know, I started this program back in 2014, and I always did my best to do whatever I can to make sure my players' get their due rakeback. However this time around I ran out of credit lines and my luck also ran out so I told a bigger lie to buy myself time to figure out a way to come up with player funds. Title: Re: ►►BETCOIN.AG- [Uncensored] Ƀitcoin Poker, Sports, Casino & Affiliate Community◄◄ Post by: game-protect on August 27, 2017, 11:49:54 PM Ive heard alot of scam reports and bad bad things about betcoin.ag but never really hit home till just today. I had 65 chips which is .065 in btc just disapear they scammed it from me. Ill never ever set foot on there website again and i will bash them and tell everyone i know and every chance i get online to tell people that they are crooked and they scam! Title: Re: ►►BETCOIN.AG- [Uncensored] Ƀitcoin Poker, Sports, Casino & Affiliate Community◄◄ Post by: TwitchySeal on September 01, 2017, 05:34:49 PM Xiao is 5 weeks behind on paying rakeback, and is once again locking his thread to keep people from complaining publicly. I see he hasn't logged into his account in a week now either. Lay down with snakes, you're gonna get bit kids. Affiliate and partner in crime Xiaoxiao defrauded betcoin.ag scam customers! Hello everyone, it's time for me to come out with the truth about the recent "delayed" rakeback situation. This is not easy to do, especially since some of you guys viewed me as a helping hand to resolve issues or expedite support tickets and be an advocate for the players. The truth is that I have personally mismanaged players' rakeback funds because I have gambled most of it away; I have a gambling problem. I'm sure Betcoin can attest to this by simply looking at my past gambling records on the site, and most of the cashouts I made were to a few other bitcoin gambling sites which I lost. The reason I made up the excuse of "delayed rakeback stats" was to buy time so I can get loans or use continued incoming affiliate funds to try to make back what I needed to cover. In the past you may have noticed there's been similar "delays," though not as prolonged as this one. Many of which (if not all) were because of my gambling habits in which I lost the funds which I should have set aside to pay out players at the end of the week. However, I was always able to some how come up with it either taking out loans with every credit line that I have, or somehow winning it back via gambling, which is why this program has been afloat for so long amidst my gambling issues. I hope you all could see that this delay of player rakeback was not the result of any malicious intent. I've always tried to help the players under this program to the best of my abilities, a lot of time intervening with support and helping expedite issues they may be having with the ever enhancing Betcoin platform, or sending early rakeback when players needed it. Currently I am working with Betcoin and a few possible investors to figure out a way to appease all those that haven't received their due rakeback from this program in the past few months. I have exact records of who is owed what amount. I apologize and feel incredibly bad for all those that were eagerly awaiting their rakeback, because I've been there before myself. In no way shape or form have I ever intended to "scam" anyone. As you know, I started this program back in 2014, and I always did my best to do whatever I can to make sure my players' get their due rakeback. However this time around I ran out of credit lines and my luck also ran out so I told a bigger lie to buy myself time to figure out a way to come up with player funds. Been away for a while - can't say I'm all that surprised to find out Xiao stole a bunch of money and then disappeared, or that Betcoin responded by screwing them even more. They are still snap deleting most criticism/complaints from their thread. What else have I missed? Props to mods for finally putting their foot down when it comes to spamming same crap over and over in their self modded thread. Edit: Was just going through some of Betcoins posts, found some more evidence supporting my theory that they are run by Betsoft ( scammers ). Hello, everyone and thank you for being a member of our campaign. WE updated the casino recently to add several new providers including Ezugi, GameArt and Endorphina which has been great for our players but in order to receive a casino bonus all players must play a Betsoft game in order to be properly registered. You can login and do that here: https://www.betcoin.ag/casino/slots?provider=betsoft Once complete, please create a ticket and we can get you taken care of. Thank you! Title: Re: ►►BETCOIN.AG- [Uncensored] Ƀitcoin Poker, Sports, Casino & Affiliate Community◄◄ Post by: jimmy55 on September 01, 2017, 06:50:13 PM Also I just got an email from Betcoin, something about whitelisting their IP? Looks like a spam email or something.
Title: Re: ►►BETCOIN.AG- [Uncensored] Ƀitcoin Poker, Sports, Casino & Affiliate Community◄◄ Post by: TwitchySeal on September 03, 2017, 06:56:43 PM Hey Twitchy, are you back now? Somewhat :) I see Betcoin seems to think everyone has forgotten about how messed up their Betsoft Progressives are, they posted this (https://www.betcoin.ag/bitcoin-cash-bcc-bch-casino-sportsbook-betcoinag) today: Quote from: Betcoin.ag BCH Progressive Jackpot Slots have highest rewards reaching in the range of thousands of bitcoin's, so what exactly are you waiting for? Win a huge progressive BCH jackpot at Betcoin.ag today! (https://www.betcoin.ag/bitcoin-cash-bcc-bch-casino-sportsbook-betcoinag) Title: Re: ►►BETCOIN.AG- [Uncensored] Ƀitcoin Poker, Sports, Casino & Affiliate Community◄◄ Post by: game-protect on September 03, 2017, 07:10:01 PM I see Betcoin seems to think everyone has forgotten about how messed up their Betsoft Progressives are, they posted this (https://www.betcoin.ag/bitcoin-cash-bcc-bch-casino-sportsbook-betcoinag) today: Then we post the memory: Betcoin.ag extort 500 Bitcoins Jackpot winner for “settlement” (https://game-protect.com/betcoin-ag-extort-jackpot-winner/)Quote from: Betcoin.ag BCH Progressive Jackpot Slots have highest rewards reaching in the range of thousands of bitcoin's, so what exactly are you waiting for? Win a huge progressive BCH jackpot at Betcoin.ag today! (https://www.betcoin.ag/bitcoin-cash-bcc-bch-casino-sportsbook-betcoinag) If you consider that 450 Bitcoins are currently almost $2,2 million and 950 Bitcoins $4,4 million and jasonort can still sue the debtor, wow just wow! Hey Twitchy, are you back now? Somewhat :) Title: Re: ►►BETCOIN.AG- [Uncensored] Ƀitcoin Poker, Sports, Casino & Affiliate Community◄◄ Post by: TwitchySeal on September 23, 2017, 02:23:20 PM Looks like Betcoins Forum Ban has ended, and their Sportsbook seems to be down for a few days now.
Also this was posted in their Sig Spammers Thread We were able to gain access to Betcoin.ag's servers on 9/21/17, and what we were able to dump was beyond our expectations. We were testing their security, and were able to obtain a list of every username and plaintext password for every account on their site. Further, we were able to bypass their "whitelisted IP" info, and able to log into the accounts. Some of these accounts hold large sums of bitcoin. We play on this site, and find it insane that our passwords are all in plaintext on their server side. A bitcoin gambling site should know better. We have contacted betcoin with no response. If they do not reply to us by 9/23/17, we will be posting this in other forums, and making all their players aware that they have been breached. Further, we will be placing the entire dumped list up for sale. Betcoin, you have our email. I would highly recommend replying. Could be totally false, but I wouldn't be surprised if something like this were possible considering their history with security. Title: Re: ►►BETCOIN.AG- [Uncensored] Ƀitcoin Poker, Sports, Casino & Affiliate Community◄◄ Post by: DarkDays on September 24, 2017, 06:29:56 PM Looks like Betcoins Forum Ban has ended, and their Sportsbook seems to be down for a few days now. Also this was posted in their Sig Spammers Thread We were able to gain access to Betcoin.ag's servers on 9/21/17, and what we were able to dump was beyond our expectations. We were testing their security, and were able to obtain a list of every username and plaintext password for every account on their site. Further, we were able to bypass their "whitelisted IP" info, and able to log into the accounts. Some of these accounts hold large sums of bitcoin. We play on this site, and find it insane that our passwords are all in plaintext on their server side. A bitcoin gambling site should know better. We have contacted betcoin with no response. If they do not reply to us by 9/23/17, we will be posting this in other forums, and making all their players aware that they have been breached. Further, we will be placing the entire dumped list up for sale. Betcoin, you have our email. I would highly recommend replying. Could be totally false, but I wouldn't be surprised if something like this were possible considering their history with security. That message was posted (multiple times) on every single poker message board this past week. I'm pretty sure it's an extortion attempt, although obviously we all know that Betcoin has multiple security weaknesses along with unscrupulous workers, so nobody should trust them with anything. Title: Re: ►►BETCOIN.AG- [Uncensored] Ƀitcoin Poker, Sports, Casino & Affiliate Community◄◄ Post by: poplolnman on September 25, 2017, 04:21:02 AM Looks like Betcoins Forum Ban has ended, and their Sportsbook seems to be down for a few days now. Also this was posted in their Sig Spammers Thread We were able to gain access to Betcoin.ag's servers on 9/21/17, and what we were able to dump was beyond our expectations. We were testing their security, and were able to obtain a list of every username and plaintext password for every account on their site. Further, we were able to bypass their "whitelisted IP" info, and able to log into the accounts. Some of these accounts hold large sums of bitcoin. We play on this site, and find it insane that our passwords are all in plaintext on their server side. A bitcoin gambling site should know better. We have contacted betcoin with no response. If they do not reply to us by 9/23/17, we will be posting this in other forums, and making all their players aware that they have been breached. Further, we will be placing the entire dumped list up for sale. Betcoin, you have our email. I would highly recommend replying. Could be totally false, but I wouldn't be surprised if something like this were possible considering their history with security. That message was posted (multiple times) on every single poker message board this past week. I'm pretty sure it's an extortion attempt, although obviously we all know that Betcoin has multiple security weaknesses along with unscrupulous workers, so nobody should trust them with anything. Title: Re: ►►BETCOIN.AG- [Uncensored] Ƀitcoin Poker, Sports, Casino & Affiliate Community◄◄ Post by: TwitchySeal on September 30, 2017, 03:33:25 AM Incredible article just posted on Betcoin about Black Jack, it's history and betting strategies.
https://archive.is/QbA7v#selection-1241.0-1249.107 Quote Martin Gale Bitcoin Blackjack Strategy One of the most popular winning bitcoin blackjack strategies was developed by a mathematician Martin Gale. (Strategy is actually called martingale and has nothing to do with anyone named Martin or Gale...) Title: Re: ►►BETCOIN.AG- [Uncensored] Ƀitcoin Poker, Sports, Casino & Affiliate Community◄◄ Post by: DarkDays on September 30, 2017, 09:34:54 PM Incredible article just posted on Betcoin about Black Jack, it's history and betting strategies. https://archive.is/QbA7v#selection-1241.0-1249.107 Quote Martin Gale Bitcoin Blackjack Strategy One of the most popular winning bitcoin blackjack strategies was developed by a mathematician Martin Gale. (Strategy is actually called martingale and has nothing to do with anyone named Martin or Gale...) I doubt they could have any more contempt for their customers. Title: Re: ►►BETCOIN.AG- [Uncensored] Ƀitcoin Poker, Sports, Casino & Affiliate Community◄◄ Post by: TwitchySeal on September 30, 2017, 09:59:51 PM Incredible article just posted on Betcoin about Black Jack, it's history and betting strategies. https://archive.is/QbA7v#selection-1241.0-1249.107 Quote Martin Gale Bitcoin Blackjack Strategy One of the most popular winning bitcoin blackjack strategies was developed by a mathematician Martin Gale. (Strategy is actually called martingale and has nothing to do with anyone named Martin or Gale...) I doubt they could have any more contempt for their customers. Yeah, they banned me (for 14th time) after pointing out Martin Gale didn't exist in the comments. Didn't bother fixing the article though... Title: Re: ►►BETCOIN.AG- [Uncensored] Ƀitcoin Poker, Sports, Casino & Affiliate Community◄◄ Post by: game-protect on September 30, 2017, 11:59:11 PM Incredible article just posted on Betcoin about Black Jack, it's history and betting strategies. The publicly proven Duckdice scam (https://game-protect.com/duckdice-scam/) claims the same nonsense in their FAQ section (https://duckdice.io/faq):https://archive.is/QbA7v#selection-1241.0-1249.107 Quote Martin Gale Bitcoin Blackjack Strategy One of the most popular winning bitcoin blackjack strategies was developed by a mathematician Martin Gale. (Strategy is actually called martingale and has nothing to do with anyone named Martin or Gale...) Quote from: duckdice scam faq section How does Automatic Betting work? Automatic Betting allows you to use a betting strategy to reduce the risk of loss. The most familiar betting strategy is Martingale. A martingale strategy can work if you are able to double your bet 50 times in a row, but this is pretty sure not possible at betcoin blackjack! The target group for both betcoin and duckdice is within the IQ range 30-50, otherwise I have no explanation why anyone is playing there. ::) Title: Re: ►►BETCOIN.AG- [Uncensored] Ƀitcoin Poker, Sports, Casino & Affiliate Community◄◄ Post by: Beefheart on October 31, 2017, 04:27:23 AM is there not a "censored"/offical Betcoin thread anymore? It used to be very active, and seems to have disappeared... has Betcoin just gone down the shitter the past few months/since the BetcoinRakeback fiasco?
Title: Re: ►►BETCOIN.AG- [Uncensored] Ƀitcoin Poker, Sports, Casino & Affiliate Community◄◄ Post by: DarkDays on October 31, 2017, 07:17:29 PM is there not a "censored"/offical Betcoin thread anymore? It used to be very active, and seems to have disappeared... has Betcoin just gone down the shitter the past few months/since the BetcoinRakeback fiasco? Betcoin's business model revolves around stealing money from poor people. Because of the massive rise in price of bitcoin, those people aren't able to buy much and are more hesitant to spend it. Think about it...a year ago, $20 would have bought you .0285 worth of bitcoin. After fees, you'd have .028 in your account. Today that same $20 only buys .0032. The fees are going to eat up almost a fifth of that, and that's just to send it one place. If you have added fees for buying via credit card or paypal, or send it to a wallet before a gambling site, you'd be lucky if you saw even $10 worth of bitcoin in your actual account. So the people that Betcoin caters to are less likely to buy bitcoin, less likely to deposit bitcoin, and less likely to spend bitcoin (since their miniums haven't changed). Combine that with more and more people seeing how scummy they are AND the fact that they've skinned their proverbial sheeps, and Betcoin/Jessica White don't have much incentive to market anymore. Anyone halfway intelligent has seen their scummy ways and has moved on to one of the other multitude of WPN skins, and anyone dumb enough to fall for their traps is already broke. Title: Re: ►►BETCOIN.AG- [Uncensored] Ƀitcoin Poker, Sports, Casino & Affiliate Community◄◄ Post by: cjmoles on October 31, 2017, 07:29:49 PM Incredible article just posted on Betcoin about Black Jack, it's history and betting strategies. https://archive.is/QbA7v#selection-1241.0-1249.107 Quote Martin Gale Bitcoin Blackjack Strategy One of the most popular winning bitcoin blackjack strategies was developed by a mathematician Martin Gale. (Strategy is actually called martingale and has nothing to do with anyone named Martin or Gale...) I doubt they could have any more contempt for their customers. Yeah, they banned me (for 14th time) after pointing out Martin Gale didn't exist in the comments. Didn't bother fixing the article though... LOL....Okay, I'll give you this one. The infamous Martin Gale is an elusive figure for sure ---> If you need help figuring out what they're talking about here's a link: https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/25/probability/martingale-dummies-asking-not-giving-one-345470/ Title: Re: ►►BETCOIN.AG- [Uncensored] Ƀitcoin Poker, Sports, Casino & Affiliate Community◄◄ Post by: game-protect on November 01, 2017, 09:32:41 PM is there not a "censored"/offical Betcoin thread anymore? It used to be very active, and seems to have disappeared... has Betcoin just gone down the shitter the past few months/since the BetcoinRakeback fiasco? The "censored" betcoin thread was banned for 2 or 3 weeks for spamming! A lot of players left after the rakeback theft and canceling of the extra rakeback and shortly after they had to reduce their army of 70 promoters! With bacon you catches mices, but if the stock is running low then less mices will come! :D Title: Re: ✅BETCOIN.AG -The #1 ɃTC ETH BCH LTC DASH XRP Poker Sports Casino Dice Commun Post by: TwitchySeal on December 12, 2017, 12:41:15 AM GUess it's time to get this thread back in action.
Apparently Betcoin has a new "poker room manager" who has also got themselves approved on twoplustwo (http://twoplustwo.com) (most popular online poker forum) I've repeatedly requested details about this new 'poker room manager' on 2p2 and btctalk and can confirm that they are indeed working for Betcoin (confirmed by 2p2 mods), and not just a troll. However, they have claimed to be an 'experienced user on poker forums' yet refuse to respond to the question 'who are you!?' They've decided to just delete my posts in their threads here: https://i.gyazo.com/2b78dd766cd000ea9721174f3d8fdbe5.png And ignore my posts on 2p2 (where they can't moderate their own thread) LINK (https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showpost.php?p=53226903&postcount=771): Quote from: TwitchySeal;53226903 Summary: -Betcoin affiliate (xiaoxiao) got really good rakeback deal for his signups(way better than ant other affiliate) -Eventually xiaoxiao lost all his players rakeback. -Betcoin locks xiaoxiaos account for not paying players. -Betcoin tells players they will pay them from what xiaoxiao would of normally be paid. -Betcoin keeps all or most of the money for themselves. -Betcoin banned/censored/ignored players who tried to get to the bottom of issue. ================== Here are some facts on the xiaoxiao rakeback issue: For several years, xiaoxiao was able to offer a very good rakeback deal - with a decent VIP level, players were earning a little more than 100% rakeback with ~70% of it coming from xiaoxiao. Most regs who hadn't signed up under xiaoxiao created new accounts because normal affiliates were being paid less than half of what xiaoxiao was actually returning to players. Here is one of xiaoxiaos original thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1612688.0) on Bitcointalk. He also ran betcoinrakeback.com (now defunct) Last spring ( april/may 2017) xiao degened everyones rakeback. After months of excuses and empty promises he admitted he was broke and came clean in this post (http://"https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1612688.msg18891364#msg18891364"). Betcoin responded on their own forum in this thread (http://"https://www.betcoin.ag/xiao-rakeback-update-thread?page=1"). (cliffs below) Betcoin posted saying that they had frozen xiaoxiaos account, and would be using the funds from his account to pay his players: =========================== https://i.gyazo.com/93d4a3d96eae3c97746375aed83aaa1c.png =========================== A couple months late, they decided that the funds that xiaoxiao would of normally been paid would not go to xiaoxiao, or the players that signed up under xiaoxiao. They would simply be kept by Betcoin: https://i.gyazo.com/05d5202a56664dd970c82f59a3e79249.png They have since refused to respond to requests for explanation, blaming xiaoxiao for stealing all that money. (which he did steal, until they locked his account and began to keep it all for themselves) Also, they still offer affiliate program: https://www.betcoin.ag/affiliates (https://www.betcoin.ag/affiliates) ========================== There were 3 ways Betcoin could of handled this situation. 1) Do nothing. The relationship between an affiliate and a player is just that. Let the players and the affiliate work things out. 2) Do something. Lock the affiliates account and pay the players what the affiliate had previously promised - including the cut that the affiliate was keeping for themself until all players were made whole. 3) Lock the affiliate account, and keep all of the funds that would of otherwise been paid to the affiliate (and then the players) for themselves. Betcoin chose option 3. Title: Re: ✅BETCOIN.AG -The #1 ɃTC ETH BCH LTC DASH XRP Poker Sports Casino Dice Community✅ Post by: winbig777 on December 12, 2017, 02:42:14 AM Except, the players were paid later and everyone got settled up good. So there is no problem. Even the last guy, ACTIONNN is ok with things now. People make mistakes. It's not a great thing but it doesn't change the fact that it was a good deal while it lasted, and everyone made a lot of money from it. Now the site actually has traffic and is growing, and bitcoin is going up.
Title: Re: ✅BETCOIN.AG -The #1 ɃTC ETH BCH LTC DASH XRP Poker Sports Casino Dice Commun Post by: winbig777 on December 12, 2017, 02:52:00 AM GUess it's time to get this thread back in action. Apparently Betcoin has a new "poker room manager" who has also got themselves approved on twoplustwo (http://twoplustwo.com) (most popular online poker forum) I've repeatedly requested details about this new 'poker room manager' on 2p2 and btctalk and can confirm that they are indeed working for Betcoin (confirmed by 2p2 mods), and not just a troll. However, they have claimed to be an 'experienced user on poker forums' yet refuse to respond to the question 'who are you!?' They've decided to just delete my posts in their threads here: https://i.gyazo.com/2b78dd766cd000ea9721174f3d8fdbe5.png And ignore my posts on 2p2 (where they can't moderate their own thread) LINK (https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showpost.php?p=53226903&postcount=771): Quote from: TwitchySeal;53226903 Summary: -Betcoin affiliate (xiaoxiao) got really good rakeback deal for his signups(way better than ant other affiliate) -Eventually xiaoxiao lost all his players rakeback. -Betcoin locks xiaoxiaos account for not paying players. -Betcoin tells players they will pay them from what xiaoxiao would of normally be paid. -Betcoin keeps all or most of the money for themselves. -Betcoin banned/censored/ignored players who tried to get to the bottom of issue. ================== Here are some facts on the xiaoxiao rakeback issue: For several years, xiaoxiao was able to offer a very good rakeback deal - with a decent VIP level, players were earning a little more than 100% rakeback with ~70% of it coming from xiaoxiao. Most regs who hadn't signed up under xiaoxiao created new accounts because normal affiliates were being paid less than half of what xiaoxiao was actually returning to players. Here is one of xiaoxiaos original thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1612688.0) on Bitcointalk. He also ran betcoinrakeback.com (now defunct) Last spring ( april/may 2017) xiao degened everyones rakeback. After months of excuses and empty promises he admitted he was broke and came clean in this post (http://"https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1612688.msg18891364#msg18891364"). Betcoin responded on their own forum in this thread (http://"https://www.betcoin.ag/xiao-rakeback-update-thread?page=1"). (cliffs below) Betcoin posted saying that they had frozen xiaoxiaos account, and would be using the funds from his account to pay his players: =========================== https://i.gyazo.com/93d4a3d96eae3c97746375aed83aaa1c.png =========================== A couple months late, they decided that the funds that xiaoxiao would of normally been paid would not go to xiaoxiao, or the players that signed up under xiaoxiao. They would simply be kept by Betcoin: https://i.gyazo.com/05d5202a56664dd970c82f59a3e79249.png They have since refused to respond to requests for explanation, blaming xiaoxiao for stealing all that money. (which he did steal, until they locked his account and began to keep it all for themselves) Also, they still offer affiliate program: https://www.betcoin.ag/affiliates (https://www.betcoin.ag/affiliates) ========================== There were 3 ways Betcoin could of handled this situation. 1) Do nothing. The relationship between an affiliate and a player is just that. Let the players and the affiliate work things out. 2) Do something. Lock the affiliates account and pay the players what the affiliate had previously promised - including the cut that the affiliate was keeping for themself until all players were made whole. 3) Lock the affiliate account, and keep all of the funds that would of otherwise been paid to the affiliate (and then the players) for themselves. Betcoin chose option 3. Seriously what is wrong with you? First of all it is untrue, they more did option 2 and gave players something. But seriously, how does it feel to just never let something go? Like hold it deep inside and just not be able to get it out of your head? Is something seriously wrong with you dude? I played on betco.in when it was the only bitcoin poker site...it got "hacked" and I had 100btc on there....the owner said he'd pay me something...but never did...he is still active on this forum...name is "hippich" do you see me literally blowing up his spot all over? and posting everywhere about what a scammer he is? no, because i know im not going to see that money again...does this mean the hippich guy is a scammer? because he couldnt cover the money i voluntarily sent him to risk on gambling, knowing something might go wrong? any money you ever sent in a deposit to betcoin, you knew something could go wrong...well something went wrong and you feel you or your friends didnt get full value on your money...sorry to hear that but at the end of the day let things go dude...its been months now...they site is still operating and theres no more issues like that, your rakeback appears and thats all you get, its right now every time, and theres plenty of traffic...either come back and play or go play elsewhere, but youre going to give yourself an ulcer man if you dont stop obsessing about this Title: Re: ✅BETCOIN.AG -The #1 ɃTC ETH BCH LTC DASH XRP Poker Sports Casino Dice Commun Post by: TwitchySeal on December 12, 2017, 03:52:06 AM ~snip~ Responded to this on twoplustwo. Not going to reformat post for btctalk, but here's the post: https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showpost.php?p=53228525&postcount=781 And here's a screenshot: https://i.gyazo.com/3061ebb30ed08412784e3813ed32f7b7.png Title: Re: ✅BETCOIN.AG -The #1 ɃTC ETH BCH LTC DASH XRP Poker Sports Casino Dice Community✅ Post by: TwitchySeal on December 12, 2017, 04:13:36 AM I will offer cashouts from swcpoker if you have less than 20 chips for a 1% fee (plus my transaction fees, your choice whether i use high or low), PM me (PM is better as I get notification) or just post here in the thread how much you send me. My screen name is "veganhippie" too bad i've never even heard about you or seen on SWC, neither in chat nor played you on tables; you can see how there's a trust issue! Go ahead and ask anyone, I have played more hands than anyone on the site. Ask people in chat if they've seen me. My reputation is solid. Let me know, PM me if you want the cashout. lol, are you really veganhippie/iamhiv/well known scammer (https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/184/staking-selling-shares-live/closed-wsop-package-selling-shares-788926/)/Somers, Conn. resident who was charged with having sex with 13-year-old girl after responding to Craigslist ad (https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/54/poker-beats-brags-variance/return-iamhiv-aka-jonathan-drane-1168430/)? gamblor777(on 2p2) = winbig777(on btctalk) Title: Re: ✅BETCOIN.AG -The #1 ɃTC ETH BCH LTC DASH XRP Poker Sports Casino Dice Community✅ Post by: DarkDays on December 12, 2017, 04:40:29 AM Except, the players were paid later and everyone got settled up good. So there is no problem. Even the last guy, ACTIONNN is ok with things now. This is a lie. The players were not paid for the stolen rakeback, they were told that they needed to rake the full (original) amount again in order to receive it. Quote Now the site actually has traffic and is growing This is also a lie. Here's a post I made over a year ago with a picture showing Betcoin's traffic: So it was 100%, then it was 50%, now it's 0. I guess the cash games must be booming with business and they don't need people to be starting tables. https://i.imgur.com/I7ESwNy.jpg ...oh. Guess not. Why else would they be taking away something that was helping them? Here's their current traffic: https://i.imgur.com/wcxKomW.jpg So...no. They have not grown at all. Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - A Ƀad ɃTC ETH ɃCH LTC DASH XRP Poker Sports Casino Dice Community✅ Post by: TwitchySeal on December 12, 2017, 04:25:00 PM Good news everyone, I found xiaoxiao.
I'm copying this from the post I just made on 2p2, https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showpost.php?p=53229921&postcount=785 I believe Gamblor777 is xiaoxiao (the affiliate that stole all the rake back). I also believe that he is still being paid affiliate fees by Betcoin Here are a list of all the accounts that I believe belong to the same person. - Gamblor777 (http://"https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/members/497139/") (twoplustwo) - HIV (http://"https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/members/52690/") (twoplustwo) - winbig777 (http://"https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1026340") (btctalk) - xiaoxiao (http://"https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=15951") (btctalk) - VascoBorden (http://"https://www.betcoin.ag/user/103828") (betcoin) - harryjr (http://"https://www.betcoin.ag/user/109330") (betcoin) - veganhippie (SwCPoker) - 5850s (http://"https://www.reddit.com/user/5850s") (reddit) The following referral accounts/links are also relevant (don't use any of them): - win big on coins dotcom (http://"google.com") <---2p2 has censored this site ( which means he got banned for spamming here it most likely) - https://www.betcoin.ag?r=103828 (http://"google.com") - https://www.betcoin.ag?r=109330 (http://"google.com") <---xiaoxiaos affiliate link that most regs signed up with - https://nitrogensports.eu/r/22646 (http://"google.com") Gamblor777 (http://"https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/members/497139/") and winbig777 (http://"https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1026340")copy/pasted identicle posts yesterday bashing me. You can see it a few posts above this one, and also on BTCTalk [LINK (http://"https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1616152.msg26174659#msg26174659")] So we know they are the same person. If you look at the post histories of each account, you'll see extremely shilly posts on BTCTalk, and just enough attention to Betcoin.ag on 2p2 to not get noticed by mods. Here we see winbig777 claiming to be veganhippie. Also note the signature where he advertises his site, winbig on coins: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=962440.msg25692215#msg25692215 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=962440.msg25692215#msg25692215) https://i.gyazo.com/a4f7ec651d01322a741535a60265880f.png Now for the reddit account. First some evidence that veganhippie is "5850s" https://www.reddit.com/r/poker/comments/6a1npw/beginning_poker_player/dhb3uzm/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/poker/comments/6a1npw/beginning_poker_player/dhb3uzm/) https://i.gyazo.com/0ba0ee2725f069a9abda9999bd5b0cb0.png https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/26dg08/state_of_the_art_of_bitcoincrypto_gambling/chq0v9z/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/26dg08/state_of_the_art_of_bitcoincrypto_gambling/chq0v9z/) https://i.gyazo.com/daee77e4f95fad8d246721b0c0662ba0.png https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/26dg08/state_of_the_art_of_bitcoincrypto_gambling/chq0v9z/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/26dg08/state_of_the_art_of_bitcoincrypto_gambling/chq0v9z/) https://i.gyazo.com/8614662d0f9de08457a2c1e0a1e905fa.png Now to show "5850s" is xiaoxiao https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:1U_JvE4wcigJ:https://www.reddit.com/r/poker/comments/7irbri/affected_by_bitcoin_fees_maybe_this_can_help/%3Fref%3Dreadnext+&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us (https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:1U_JvE4wcigJ:https://www.reddit.com/r/poker/comments/7irbri/affected_by_bitcoin_fees_maybe_this_can_help/%3Fref%3Dreadnext+&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us) https://i.gyazo.com/8c929c1f829db87609db8993f4e059ba.png Compare that affiliate link to the one Xiaxiao has been using since 2014: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=683727.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=683727.0) Other relevant links that connect him other names: In this video we see him playing on the veganhippie account: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szNcaWQ5tQc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szNcaWQ5tQc) This is the same person that scammed this WSOP package a few years go. (I believe he has paid back a chunk, but still owes over 20k ) Also, he got arrested for picking up a 13yo girl off craigs list. (Not joking) https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/54/poker-beats-brags-variance/return-iamhiv-aka-jonathan-drane-1168430/ (https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/54/poker-beats-brags-variance/return-iamhiv-aka-jonathan-drane-1168430/) https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/163/staking-selling-shares-online/comprehensive-wsop-package-selling-shares-1-25-revised-789833/ (https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/163/staking-selling-shares-online/comprehensive-wsop-package-selling-shares-1-25-revised-789833/) Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - A Ƀad ɃTC ETH ɃCH LTC DASH XRP Poker Sports Casino Dice Community✅ Post by: Xiaoxiao on December 12, 2017, 04:37:28 PM Twitchy you're totally mistaken now.
I'm not Veganhippie. I know Vegan and was friends with him from 2p2 in the past. He's simply helped me post my affiliate link before with his screenname sometimes to help me get some players and get some income, that's all. Lol at you thinking I am Vegan, you're not the all knowing detective. To prove that you are wrong, I'm willing to allow a forum moderator to show that my forum IP has never crossed with Vegan's since we live far away from each other..... If I was vegan, why would make a website that has a far worse display than my betcoinrakeback website that i took down because i mismanaged people's rakeback. Stop thinking you got it right and than making accusations of people's identities. Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - A Ƀad ɃTC ETH ɃCH LTC DASH XRP Poker Sports Casino Dice Community✅ Post by: TwitchySeal on December 12, 2017, 04:45:39 PM Twitchy you're totally mistaken now. lollllllllI'm not Veganhippie. I know Vegan and was friends with him from 2p2 in the past. He's simply helped me post my affiliate link before with his screenname sometimes to help me get some players and get some income, that's all. Lol at you thinking I am Vegan, you're not the all knowing detective. To prove that you are wrong, I'm willing to allow a forum moderator to show that my forum IP has never crossed with Vegan's since we live far away from each other..... First time you logged in with xiaoxiao since May. Where ya been bud? Are you the new poker room manager also? Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - A Ƀad ɃTC ETH ɃCH LTC DASH XRP Poker Sports Casino Dice Community✅ Post by: Xiaoxiao on December 12, 2017, 04:49:14 PM Twitchy you're totally mistaken now. lollllllllI'm not Veganhippie. I know Vegan and was friends with him from 2p2 in the past. He's simply helped me post my affiliate link before with his screenname sometimes to help me get some players and get some income, that's all. Lol at you thinking I am Vegan, you're not the all knowing detective. To prove that you are wrong, I'm willing to allow a forum moderator to show that my forum IP has never crossed with Vegan's since we live far away from each other..... First time you logged in with xiaoxiao since May. Where ya been bud? Are you the new poker room manager also? No, i'm not involved with anything, I've been working a tough job since I went broke and mismanaged people's rakeback. It's not easy, it's whatever..... I just lurked here and saw you accusing Vegan of being me and vice versa, it's not the truth at all. Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - A Ƀad ɃTC ETH ɃCH LTC DASH XRP Poker Sports Casino Dice Community✅ Post by: TwitchySeal on December 14, 2017, 09:59:51 PM I recommend anyone interested in the Betcoin trainwreck check out the twoplustwo thread: https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28/internet-poker/betcoin-poker-1458531/index33.html
Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - A Ƀad ɃTC ETH ɃCH LTC DASH XRP Poker Sports Casino Dice Community✅ Post by: TwitchySeal on December 22, 2017, 03:06:06 PM Why haven't they announced that they're closing the poker room in the BitcoinTalk thread? Maybe it's just a hoax? ---> Fake News? I sure hope it's fake because poker is the only reason I play at betcoin. It's been real, it's been nice, but I gotta go if all they'll be providing are the negative EV games. Have you really fooled yourself into believing that you're a winning poker player? Truth hurts man, I'm sorry. But - it will also set you free <3 Then again, you still have about a week left to get back that $8k.... https://i.gyazo.com/cdb644eb3ab0e77c7bf863fa6e91efaf.png[/quote] Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - POKER CLOSING - 42 BTC BBJP BEING STOLEN ✅ Post by: arisatox on December 22, 2017, 07:06:26 PM Why haven't they announced that they're closing the poker room in the BitcoinTalk thread? Maybe it's just a hoax? ---> Fake News? I sure hope it's fake because poker is the only reason I play at betcoin. It's been real, it's been nice, but I gotta go if all they'll be providing are the negative EV games. Have you really fooled yourself into believing that you're a winning poker player? Truth hurts man, I'm sorry. But - it will also set you free <3 Then again, you still have about a week left to get back that $8k.... I will not get involved in the conversation here but have a question that you may know. Doesn't that only show the tournaments that were played, and so they could be up on cash? Is there a site you know of that also tracks the cash side? Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - POKER CLOSING - 42 BTC BBJP BEING STOLEN ✅ Post by: DarkDays on December 22, 2017, 08:22:23 PM Why haven't they announced that they're closing the poker room in the BitcoinTalk thread? Maybe it's just a hoax? ---> Fake News? I sure hope it's fake because poker is the only reason I play at betcoin. It's been real, it's been nice, but I gotta go if all they'll be providing are the negative EV games. Have you really fooled yourself into believing that you're a winning poker player? Truth hurts man, I'm sorry. But - it will also set you free <3 Then again, you still have about a week left to get back that $8k.... I will not get involved in the conversation here but have a question that you may know. Doesn't that only show the tournaments that were played, and so they could be up on cash? Is there a site you know of that also tracks the cash side? If someone is down 1500BIs off of a $5.50ABI, it's pretty safe to say that they aren't beating any level of cash anywhere. Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - POKER CLOSING - 42 BTC BBJP BEING STOLEN ✅ Post by: TwitchySeal on December 22, 2017, 08:23:30 PM Why haven't they announced that they're closing the poker room in the BitcoinTalk thread? Maybe it's just a hoax? ---> Fake News? I sure hope it's fake because poker is the only reason I play at betcoin. It's been real, it's been nice, but I gotta go if all they'll be providing are the negative EV games. Have you really fooled yourself into believing that you're a winning poker player? Truth hurts man, I'm sorry. But - it will also set you free <3 Then again, you still have about a week left to get back that $8k.... I will not get involved in the conversation here but have a question that you may know. Doesn't that only show the tournaments that were played, and so they could be up on cash? Is there a site you know of that also tracks the cash side? Betcoin isn't connected to ACR cash games. I don't think there's anyone tracking ACR cash games. Betcoin does have their own cash games, which I am confident are not tracked by anyone. As far as cjmoles stats, there are a few caveats - first, they only include tournaments - and the Betcoin only tournaments are not included (many of which have decent overlay, so there's a good chance he was a winner in these ) Also, satellites are not covered and rebuy/add-on/re-entry are not covered. So if you spend $100 to win a $530 seat, then don't cash in the $530 mtt, I think it would show as a $530 loss. Finally, I would (almost) never ever flame a losing player simply because they are a losing poker player. Lots of people I love (my father, uncles, cousins, friends etc) are losing players. I would never flame them simply because they lose money at poker. cjmoles is a special kind of scum. He has shilled for Betcoin for (literally) years. He has blatantly told lie after lie, wasted countless hours of myself and others with nonsense simply to either spite his 'detractors' or to protect Betcoin (not sure why?). So yeah. Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - POKER CLOSING - 42 BTC BBJP BEING STOLEN ✅ Post by: DarkDays on December 22, 2017, 08:25:38 PM Why haven't they announced that they're closing the poker room in the BitcoinTalk thread? Maybe it's just a hoax? ---> Fake News? I sure hope it's fake because poker is the only reason I play at betcoin. It's been real, it's been nice, but I gotta go if all they'll be providing are the negative EV games. Have you really fooled yourself into believing that you're a winning poker player? Truth hurts man, I'm sorry. But - it will also set you free <3 Then again, you still have about a week left to get back that $8k.... I will not get involved in the conversation here but have a question that you may know. Doesn't that only show the tournaments that were played, and so they could be up on cash? Is there a site you know of that also tracks the cash side? Betcoin isn't connected to ACR cash games. I don't think there's anyone tracking ACR cash games. Betcoin does have their own cash games, which I am confident are not tracked by anyone. As far as cjmoles stats, there are a few caveats - the Betcoin only tournaments are not included (many of which have decent overlay, so there's a good chance he was a winner in these ) Also, satellites are not covered and rebuy/add-on/re-entry are not covered. So if you spend $100 to win a $530 seat, then don't cash in the $530 mtt, I think it would show as a $530 loss. Just a note: re-entries are now tracked, and quite accurately I might add. I honestly don't know if satties are tracked now as well because satties are largely a sucker's game. Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - POKER CLOSING - 42 BTC BBJP BEING STOLEN ✅ Post by: arisatox on December 22, 2017, 08:48:48 PM Why haven't they announced that they're closing the poker room in the BitcoinTalk thread? Maybe it's just a hoax? ---> Fake News? I sure hope it's fake because poker is the only reason I play at betcoin. It's been real, it's been nice, but I gotta go if all they'll be providing are the negative EV games. Have you really fooled yourself into believing that you're a winning poker player? Truth hurts man, I'm sorry. But - it will also set you free <3 Then again, you still have about a week left to get back that $8k.... I will not get involved in the conversation here but have a question that you may know. Doesn't that only show the tournaments that were played, and so they could be up on cash? Is there a site you know of that also tracks the cash side? Betcoin isn't connected to ACR cash games. I don't think there's anyone tracking ACR cash games. Betcoin does have their own cash games, which I am confident are not tracked by anyone. As far as cjmoles stats, there are a few caveats - first, they only include tournaments - and the Betcoin only tournaments are not included (many of which have decent overlay, so there's a good chance he was a winner in these ) Also, satellites are not covered and rebuy/add-on/re-entry are not covered. So if you spend $100 to win a $530 seat, then don't cash in the $530 mtt, I think it would show as a $530 loss. Finally, I would (almost) never ever flame a losing player simply because they are a losing poker player. Lots of people I love (my father, uncles, cousins, friends etc) are losing players. I would never flame them simply because they lose money at poker. cjmoles is a special kind of scum. He has shilled for Betcoin for (literally) years. He has blatantly told lie after lie, wasted countless hours of myself and others with nonsense simply to either spite his 'detractors' or to protect Betcoin (not sure why?). So yeah. I get where you're coming from. I was mostly asking because there are a couple of high rollers on ACR I was looking into in the past, like one was up $70 thousand over a 5 hour session I watched, but none of them ever play tournaments so was hoping there was some tracker for that stuff. Hard to tell if they luck out and win a lot once or twice or if they are consistent. Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - A Ƀad ɃTC ETH ɃCH LTC DASH XRP Poker Sports Casino Dice Community✅ Post by: cjmoles on December 23, 2017, 06:11:57 AM Why haven't they announced that they're closing the poker room in the BitcoinTalk thread? Maybe it's just a hoax? ---> Fake News? I sure hope it's fake because poker is the only reason I play at betcoin. It's been real, it's been nice, but I gotta go if all they'll be providing are the negative EV games. Have you really fooled yourself into believing that you're a winning poker player? Truth hurts man, I'm sorry. But - it will also set you free <3 Then again, you still have about a week left to get back that $8k.... Does that amaze you? More money than you've seen in a lifetime, huh? LOL Have you fooled yourself into thinking you're not bitch? And, you've been cheating poker sites for years now multi-accounting and still can't believe people spend real money, right? LOL I spend more than that on bird food! You're a broke as punk if that amazes you! Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - A Ƀad ɃTC ETH ɃCH LTC DASH XRP Poker Sports Casino Dice Community✅ Post by: TwitchySeal on December 23, 2017, 06:27:11 AM 'Surprised' ?
Well, no, that's really not fair. Your recent attitude is really pretty surprising - in my opinion. As I've previously mentioned, I would never call out a fun player like yourself, without good reason. I understand it's kind of embarrassing. I really believe though, from the bottom of my heart, that you deserve very little respect myself and others in the crypto community. It's been real, it's been nice, but I gotta go if all they'll be providing are the negative EV games. https://i.gyazo.com/cdb644eb3ab0e77c7bf863fa6e91efaf.png[/quote]Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - A Ƀad ɃTC ETH ɃCH LTC DASH XRP Poker Sports Casino Dice Community✅ Post by: cjmoles on December 23, 2017, 06:47:52 AM 'Surprised' ? Well, no, that's really not fair. Your recent attitude is really pretty surprising - in my opinion. As I've previously mentioned, I would never call out a fun player like yourself, without good reason. I understand it's kind of embarrassing. I really believe though, from the bottom of my heart, that you deserve very little respect myself and others in the crypto community. It's been real, it's been nice, but I gotta go if all they'll be providing are the negative EV games. Really? You got caught cheating the other players on the site by multi-accounting and you think that you deserve some respect? You are just a butt hurt punk who got banned from the site for violating the terms and conditions ---> who is, by popular consensus, probably on several psychotropic medications. Anyway, I've given you enough attention ---> continue on talking to your sock puppets, stupid. LOL Oh, I hope they tell you "Merry Christmas" this year! You might want to remind them. Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - POKER CLOSING - 42 BTC BBJP BEING STOLEN ✅ Post by: TwitchySeal on December 23, 2017, 07:08:09 AM Why haven't they announced that they're closing the poker room in the BitcoinTalk thread? Maybe it's just a hoax? ---> Fake News? I sure hope it's fake because poker is the only reason I play at betcoin. It's been real, it's been nice, but I gotta go if all they'll be providing are the negative EV games. Have you really fooled yourself into believing that you're a winning poker player? Truth hurts man, I'm sorry. But - it will also set you free <3 Then again, you still have about a week left to get back that $8k.... https://i.gyazo.com/cdb644eb3ab0e77c7bf863fa6e91efaf.png Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - POKER CLOSING - 42 BTC BBJP BEING STOLEN ✅ Post by: TwitchySeal on December 23, 2017, 07:09:10 AM 'Surprised' ? Well, no, that's really not fair. Your recent attitude is really pretty surprising - in my opinion. As I've previously mentioned, I would never call out a fun player like yourself, without good reason. I understand it's kind of embarrassing. I really believe though, from the bottom of my heart, that you deserve very little respect myself and others in the crypto community. It's been real, it's been nice, but I gotta go if all they'll be providing are the negative EV games. https://i.gyazo.com/cdb644eb3ab0e77c7bf863fa6e91efaf.pngTake it on the chin, champ. It's ok to lose. Most people lose. Before rake you got winners and the losers. After rake, there;s always going to be fewer winners than losers. Aint no sham brah. Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - POKER CLOSING - 42 BTC BBJP BEING STOLEN ✅ Post by: DarkDays on December 23, 2017, 09:00:46 PM Got an alert that a couple of my messages were deleted today.
Odd that Betcoin would have the time to delete posts but not answer player's questions about how they are operating. Here's the messages that were deleted. I'd like to ask Betcoin bagholders to honestly rectify their actions. Why do you think it's ok for Betcoin to be deleting questions about how they will be handling the BBJ when they are closing in just over ONE DAY! https://i.imgur.com/Wb8SpIG.jpg Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - POKER CLOSING - 42 BTC BBJP BEING STOLEN ✅ Post by: TwitchySeal on December 23, 2017, 09:28:59 PM It appears Betcoin is pretending to be 'acquired' by someone - and will likely be blaming any stolen money or other player issues on the 'previous owners'.
Truly disgusting. https://i.gyazo.com/1f2d684a66fd0c2a48ecddc49f407a9f.png Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - POKER CLOSING - 42 BTC BBJP BEING STOLEN ✅ Post by: DarkDays on December 23, 2017, 10:15:35 PM It appears Betcoin is pretending to be 'acquired' by someone - and will likely be blaming any stolen money or other player issues on the 'previous owners'. Truly disgusting. https://i.gyazo.com/1f2d684a66fd0c2a48ecddc49f407a9f.png Sadly, that was VERY obvious when they made their announcement. The fact that they aren't even trying to hide what's going on by posting under the SAME SCREEN NAME is hilarious. Honestly, they have the utmost contempt for their user base. I'm still waiting for any loyal Betcoin Soldier to explain how they can rectify Betcoin's actions. Remember, they are stealing $600,000 of player funds right in front of your eyes. And they aren't even trying to hide it. Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - POKER CLOSING - 42 BTC BBJP BEING STOLEN ✅ Post by: Neurocrypt on December 23, 2017, 10:20:59 PM good to here early i will look more closely to this trend
Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - POKER CLOSING - 42 BTC BBJP BEING STOLEN ✅ Post by: CntryBoy on December 24, 2017, 02:55:48 AM It appears Betcoin is pretending to be 'acquired' by someone - and will likely be blaming any stolen money or other player issues on the 'previous owners'. Truly disgusting. https://i.gyazo.com/1f2d684a66fd0c2a48ecddc49f407a9f.png Sadly, that was VERY obvious when they made their announcement. The fact that they aren't even trying to hide what's going on by posting under the SAME SCREEN NAME is hilarious. Honestly, they have the utmost contempt for their user base. I'm still waiting for any loyal Betcoin Soldier to explain how they can rectify Betcoin's actions. Remember, they are stealing $600,000 of player funds right in front of your eyes. And they aren't even trying to hide it. Very true, and I cannot say that I'm truly surprised by any of this. We shall see how this develops in the next couple of days before closing, but I do not see them paying any of this out... I would be astounded if they did. Hoping they do and we all have a Merry Christmas! Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - POKER CLOSING - 42 BTC BBJP BEING STOLEN ✅ Post by: DarkDays on December 27, 2017, 12:21:17 AM They went ahead and stole all of the money. Confirmed it multiple places. Looks like they've pissed off a LOT of poker players who are going to be attempting to go after them via the legal system. I doubt the flimsy "We sold to a mystery company" lie is going to hold up. Hope nobody affiliated with Betcoin is currently living in the US or they are facing some serious federal time.
Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - POKER CLOSING - 42 BTC BBJP BEING STOLEN ✅ Post by: arisatox on December 27, 2017, 08:04:33 AM They went ahead and stole all of the money. Confirmed it multiple places. Looks like they've pissed off a LOT of poker players who are going to be attempting to go after them via the legal system. I doubt the flimsy "We sold to a mystery company" lie is going to hold up. Hope nobody affiliated with Betcoin is currently living in the US or they are facing some serious federal time. Are you talking about the BBJ people were complaining about or did they steal funds on the site too? And if you mean the BBJ, that definitely belongs to the players, though not sure how they can make things right anymore since it went on for so long I think. Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - POKER CLOSING - 42 BTC BBJP BEING STOLEN ✅ Post by: Moonmanmun on December 27, 2017, 06:40:40 PM The money is gone folks. Saddens me to say it but was only a matter of time before these thieves went MIA.
Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - POKER CLOSING - 42 BTC BBJP BEING STOLEN ✅ Post by: DarkDays on December 27, 2017, 07:15:27 PM They went ahead and stole all of the money. Confirmed it multiple places. Looks like they've pissed off a LOT of poker players who are going to be attempting to go after them via the legal system. I doubt the flimsy "We sold to a mystery company" lie is going to hold up. Hope nobody affiliated with Betcoin is currently living in the US or they are facing some serious federal time. Are you talking about the BBJ people were complaining about or did they steal funds on the site too? And if you mean the BBJ, that definitely belongs to the players, though not sure how they can make things right anymore since it went on for so long I think. Yes, they have stolen the player-funded BBJ, in addition to the bonus' in everyone's account. They have admitted to this. It would be foolish to think that any other money on the site is safe. They can make things right by paying out the BBJ to the players on the site in some way. Tons of B&M poker rooms do this every year when they are changing promos. Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - POKER CLOSING - 42 BTC BBJP??? ✅ Post by: game-protect on December 30, 2017, 06:41:21 PM All those who use the service of the publicly proven betcoin.ag scam (https://game-protect.com/betcoin-ag-scam/) deserve to get defrauded.
I can only shake my head if someone drives with 120 into a street curve and thereafter complains that he had an accident! I mean if you play at a scammy site you will get scammed! Also, 42 BTC jackpot is nothing compared to the Betcoin.ag extort 500 Bitcoins Jackpot winner for “settlement” (https://game-protect.com/betcoin-ag-extort-jackpot-winner/) Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - POKER CLOSING - 42 BTC BBJP??? ✅ Post by: debuni on December 30, 2017, 09:29:06 PM I'm reading different statements. one are saying that betcoin.ag poker is sold to somebody, other are saying that the poker is closing.
What is the real deal here? You both are must be more informed than other random users. Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - POKER CLOSING - 42 BTC BBJP??? ✅ Post by: mOgliE on December 30, 2017, 10:43:16 PM I don't understand how Betcoin can still be oppenned after all this time!
It's been... Three years? Two? I don't know seems ages to me. But I don't understand people who still play there. Sure they are great at marketing and avoiding any kind of direct conflict and all... But there have been enough proofs of their willing cheats. They scam when you hit the big jackpot and the poker rooms have been extremely suspicious for a long time. Anyway, at this point I'd say that if you get scammed by betcoin, you kinda earned it. It was not cool for the first ones but now we all know how to handle that, just don't go there. And I'd bet that's why they're closing, reputation is too heavy to lift, better start again with a brand new name :/ Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - POKER CLOSING - 42 BTC BBJP??? ✅ Post by: DarkDays on December 31, 2017, 12:50:05 AM I'm reading different statements. one are saying that betcoin.ag poker is sold to somebody, other are saying that the poker is closing. What is the real deal here? You both are must be more informed than other random users. All you have to do is read. They lied about selling to someone in order to justify closing their poker room and stealing all of the money. Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - POKER CLOSING - 42 BTC BBJP??? ✅ Post by: DarkDays on January 19, 2018, 08:02:47 AM Hey do you guys remember when Betcoin lied about being sold in order to steal the 43BTC BBJ, and then lied about paying it out once they reviewed the hand histories, and then stalled everyone out for a month, and then said they were going to reopen their poker room once their time ran out to stall people for another week?
You know, it's the same company that allowed their top affiliate (who they paid way more than every other affiliate in order to force people to sign up under him) to steal from his players and then allow him to cash the money out and never pay anyone. You know, it's the same company that ran tons of satellites to Betcoin-only tournaments and then cancelled the tournaments and didn't refund the players the value of the tickets they accumulated or give them any other tournaments to use them in. You know, it's the same company that overraked every cash game pot for 6 weeks and then "reviewed the hand histories" (sound familiar?) and then refused to pay anyone back for the money they overraked. Do you think they are still working with Limestone Networks? Because it seems like that would be a federal crime. Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - POKER CLOSING - 42 BTC BBJP??? ✅ Post by: BTCevo on January 20, 2018, 06:10:50 AM Hey do you guys remember when Betcoin lied about being sold in order to steal the 43BTC BBJ, and then lied about paying it out once they reviewed the hand histories, and then stalled everyone out for a month, and then said they were going to reopen their poker room once their time ran out to stall people for another week? You know, it's the same company that allowed their top affiliate (who they paid way more than every other affiliate in order to force people to sign up under him) to steal from his players and then allow him to cash the money out and never pay anyone. You know, it's the same company that ran tons of satellites to Betcoin-only tournaments and then cancelled the tournaments and didn't refund the players the value of the tickets they accumulated or give them any other tournaments to use them in. You know, it's the same company that overraked every cash game pot for 6 weeks and then "reviewed the hand histories" (sound familiar?) and then refused to pay anyone back for the money they overraked. Do you think they are still working with Limestone Networks? Because it seems like that would be a federal crime. Yeah, I believe everyone think it that way, and that is also the very much possible thing that they might do. Are he going to pay everyone about this 43 btc on people? I do not think it is really worth to bring this thing back again, this will only let their thread being come up again and again. I suggest to bury this thing over and hope there will be no such site anymore. I regret to participate every game that they held Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - POKER CLOSING - 42 BTC BBJP??? ✅ Post by: goxcraft on January 20, 2018, 01:39:18 PM Betcoin always has been shady operator. I dont believe they have been sold. Just another trick to steal from players.
Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - POKER CLOSING - 42 BTC BBJP??? ✅ Post by: DarkDays on January 22, 2018, 04:36:53 AM Daily reminder that Betcoin stole the 43BTC BBJ and pretended to sell to a new company.
Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - POKER CLOSING - 42 BTC BBJP??? ✅ Post by: game-protect on January 22, 2018, 10:37:19 PM If their poker room will come back, pretty sure betcoin management will win the BBJ! :D
Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - POKER CLOSING - 42 BTC BBJP??? ✅ Post by: DarkDays on January 23, 2018, 07:40:46 PM Hey guys quick reminder:
Betcoin stole your money. Betcoin lied about having new management. Betcoin lied about processing data for three weeks. Betcoin lied about acquiring gambling licenses. Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - POKER CLOSING - 42 BTC BBJP??? ✅ Post by: game-protect on January 23, 2018, 08:18:07 PM Betcoin lied about acquiring gambling licenses. No, they have a gambling license.Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - POKER CLOSING - 42 BTC BBJP??? ✅ Post by: notserp on January 23, 2018, 08:22:18 PM looks like they opened back up to everyone and gonna bring back poker
Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - POKER CLOSING - 42 BTC BBJP??? ✅ Post by: Flagship11 on January 23, 2018, 09:57:35 PM looks like they opened back up to everyone and gonna bring back poker That's a good business move on their end. But tell me will everyone who is owed money be properly compensated? Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - POKER CLOSING - 42 BTC BBJP??? ✅ Post by: TwitchySeal on January 23, 2018, 10:00:06 PM Betcoin lied about acquiring gambling licenses. No, they have a gambling license.Sarcasm? Or else what? Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - POKER CLOSING - 42 BTC BBJP??? ✅ Post by: game-protect on January 23, 2018, 10:46:31 PM Betcoin lied about acquiring gambling licenses. No, they have a gambling license.Sarcasm? Or else what? Also, if you consider that all WPN skins have a license, WPN pretty sure does not cooperate with a poker room without a license, because that would put them at legal risk. Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - POKER CLOSING - 42 BTC BBJP??? ✅ Post by: DarkDays on January 24, 2018, 01:47:24 AM looks like they opened back up to everyone and gonna bring back poker That's a good business move on their end. But tell me will everyone who is owed money be properly compensated? Of course not. They are hoping this all blows by while they steal more money. https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FcF71X8M.jpg&t=585&c=7N0kpfIsVuofqg Expect a LOT more balances to be "indexed" in the coming weeks. Seriously, if you deposit money on Betcoin you should assume that you'll never see any of it any again. It has all the credibility of a ponzi scheme at this point. Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - POKER CLOSING - 42 BTC BBJP??? ✅ Post by: TwitchySeal on January 24, 2018, 01:35:26 PM Betcoin lied about acquiring gambling licenses. No, they have a gambling license.Sarcasm? Or else what? Also, if you consider that all WPN skins have a license, WPN pretty sure does not cooperate with a poker room without a license, because that would put them at legal risk. They don't have a license. Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - POKER CLOSING - 42 BTC BBJP??? ✅ Post by: game-protect on January 24, 2018, 03:18:02 PM Betcoin lied about acquiring gambling licenses. No, they have a gambling license.Sarcasm? Or else what? Also, if you consider that all WPN skins have a license, WPN pretty sure does not cooperate with a poker room without a license, because that would put them at legal risk. They don't have a license. How much are you willing to bet that they have no license? Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - POKER CLOSING - 42 BTC BBJP??? ✅ Post by: TwitchySeal on January 24, 2018, 06:15:55 PM Betcoin lied about acquiring gambling licenses. No, they have a gambling license.Sarcasm? Or else what? Also, if you consider that all WPN skins have a license, WPN pretty sure does not cooperate with a poker room without a license, because that would put them at legal risk. They don't have a license. How much are you willing to bet that they have no license? I guess I could be wrong. If you have valid evidence I'd be happy to admit so. I'm pretty sure they that pre-december 2017 they didn't have a license. Then, in early December 2017, they claimed to be acquired by another company (which likely wasn't true) in order to become licensed. (They also closed their poker room which was probably a reaction to their WTN Bug, and resulted in a whole other shit storm involving their massive 43+ BTC Bad Beat Jackpot, you can read about that earlier in this thread) At this point, they cut off players from several countries to become eligible for said license ( most notably - USA ). Why would they do this if they weren't seeking a license? Well most recently (past few days) they have reversed course and now welcome players from anywhere in the world (including USA) which leads me to believe they didn't have a license, then they decided they wanted to get one, then changed their mind. Hey, Betcoin Do you have a license? Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - POKER CLOSING - 42 BTC BBJP??? ✅ Post by: DarkDays on January 24, 2018, 07:06:01 PM Hi, i actually was logging on to see what was the update with the bad-beat jackpot being distributed? Update: They stole your money and are now back for more. Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - POKER CLOSING - 42 BTC BBJP??? ✅ Post by: Flagship11 on February 01, 2018, 06:05:14 AM Just out of curiosity-
Are the casino games at betcoin.ag the same as the ones at: dashcasino.ag, litecoincasino.ag, RippleCasinoAG..... Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - POKER CLOSING - 42 BTC BBJP??? ✅ Post by: TwitchySeal on February 01, 2018, 01:02:16 PM Just out of curiosity- Are the casino games at betcoin.ag the same as the ones at: dashcasino.ag, litecoincasino.ag, RippleCasinoAG..... Those are all run by the same people as Betcoin. So I asked for the signed message proving they have the BBJP funds, got some pretty crazy responses. I don't even know what to say... https://i.gyazo.com/7464d3c09e8ca8c2f4f3ffaaf400bb28.png Quote twitchyseal: hey zzz, do you think Betcoin will be willing to sign message proving they have the BBJP funds ? zzzzzz: I wouldnt advise them to - I mean why would we? Not smart... but its not like we dont do more than that daily. twitchyseal: what are the pros and cons of signing a message twitchyseal: proving you have the 43 BTC segregated zzzzzz: what are the pros and cons of loading 40+ btc onto a wallet? zzzzzz: What a nub. zzzzzz: lol hes been making me laugh but just thought I should say... wtf would they show you him the money... I bet if it was someone else asking I woudnt be all... 🤮 zzzzzz: This dude has no idea how bitcoin works obviously Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - POKER CLOSING - 42 BTC BBJP??? ✅ Post by: game-protect on February 01, 2018, 01:54:34 PM I guess I could be wrong. If you have valid evidence I'd be happy to admit so. You can find their license on the shitty website.Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - POKER CLOSING - 42 BTC BBJP??? ✅ Post by: TwitchySeal on February 01, 2018, 02:20:16 PM I guess I could be wrong. If you have valid evidence I'd be happy to admit so. You can find their license on the shitty website.No, I can't. Could you please show me. Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - POKER CLOSING - 42 BTC BBJP??? ✅ Post by: TwitchySeal on February 01, 2018, 02:38:10 PM I guess I could be wrong. If you have valid evidence I'd be happy to admit so. You can find their license on the shitty website.No, I can't. Could you please show me. That's a link to your own site. If Betcoin has a license, please just show me where it's mentioned. I am pretty confident they don't have a license. Prove me wrong. Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - POKER CLOSING - 42 BTC BBJP??? ✅ Post by: TwitchySeal on February 01, 2018, 02:51:36 PM Last hint: Curacao licensing scam operators (https://game-protect.com/curacao-licensing-scam/) That's a link to your own site. Do not click on his links (which will just bring you to his shitty website) We are discussing Betcoin. Do you have evidence that Betcoin has a license? You say they do, I say they don't. Just show me the license. Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - POKER CLOSING - 42 BTC BBJP??? ✅ Post by: game-protect on February 01, 2018, 03:00:59 PM You can find their license on the shitty website here: Curacao licensing scam operators (https://game-protect.com/curacao-licensing-scam/)
Jasonort contacted me and asked for help when this happened: Betcoin.ag extort 500 Bitcoins Jackpot winner for “settlement” (https://game-protect.com/betcoin-ag-extort-jackpot-winner/) I investigated a little bit and found some interesting info. That info lead to the possibility to sue the responsible parties. But as you know, as 99,9% of the victims are brain washed and not willing to spend anything to enforce their claim, nothing happened. Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - POKER CLOSING - 42 BTC BBJP??? ✅ Post by: TwitchySeal on February 01, 2018, 03:03:38 PM You can find their license on the shitty website here: Curacao licensing scam operators (https://game-protect.com/curacao-licensing-scam/) There is no mention of Betcoin anywhere on the link you provided (which is your website). I don't think Betcoin has a license. If they did, it would say so on their own website, right? Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - POKER CLOSING - 42 BTC BBJP??? ✅ Post by: game-protect on February 01, 2018, 03:16:52 PM You can find their license on the shitty website here: Curacao licensing scam operators (https://game-protect.com/curacao-licensing-scam/) There is no mention of Betcoin anywhere on the link you provided (which is your website). I don't think Betcoin has a license. If they did, it would say so on their own website, right? No, you can see that even without a license and a lot of fraud, they were able to find enough depositors and were able to defraud 100s of Bitcoins = $ millions!If they would state a license on their scam website, then you would have some parties to sue. Yes, I agree, if you consider that 99,9% of the brain washed victims are not willing to spend anything to enforce their claim, there is not really the necessity to hide it. But I think they want to hide the operator, because it would hurt the image of the trade mark. Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - POKER CLOSING - 42 BTC BBJP??? ✅ Post by: TwitchySeal on February 01, 2018, 03:19:01 PM You can find their license on the shitty website here: Curacao licensing scam operators (https://game-protect.com/curacao-licensing-scam/) There is no mention of Betcoin anywhere on the link you provided (which is your website). I don't think Betcoin has a license. If they did, it would say so on their own website, right? No, you can see that even without a license and a lot of fraud, there were able to find enough depositors and were able to defraud 100s of Bitcoins = $ millions!If they would state a license on their scam website, then you would have some parties to sue. Yes, I agree, if you consider that 99,9% of the brain washed victims are not willing to spend anything to enforce their claim, there is not really the necessity to hide it. But I think they want to hide the operator, because it would hurt the image of the trade mark. Do you have any proof they have a license? I am pretty sure they don't. Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - POKER CLOSING - 42 BTC BBJP??? ✅ Post by: game-protect on February 01, 2018, 03:23:40 PM Do you have any proof they have a license? Yes, I have proof they have a license. Found the proof when I made an investigation after Jasonort contacted me and asked for help.Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - POKER CLOSING - 42 BTC BBJP??? ✅ Post by: TwitchySeal on February 01, 2018, 03:36:19 PM Do you have any proof they have a license? Yes, I have proof they have a license. Found the proof when I made an investigation after Jasonort contacted me and asked for help.Could you please share the proof? Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - POKER CLOSING - 42 BTC BBJP??? ✅ Post by: DarkDays on February 13, 2018, 12:23:38 AM Quick reminder:
GP hasn't posted any proof to his claims. Betcoin hasn't posted proof they have the money they stole from the players. BBJ still hasn't been paid out. Time to send more emails to the Texas DOJ? Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - POKER CLOSING - 42 BTC BBJP??? ✅ Post by: game-protect on February 13, 2018, 12:29:44 AM Quick reminder: I will publicise their license in 2 weeks. GP hasn't posted any proof to his claims. But first want to give to all legal and investigative experts on the forums the chance to find it by themselves to protect their face. ;) You can read in my thread what people all know (or claim to know), so it should be no problem to find it, especially as the source where it can be found is given! Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - POKER CLOSING - 42 BTC BBJP??? ✅ Post by: TwitchySeal on February 13, 2018, 03:27:44 AM Quick reminder: I will publicise their license in 2 weeks. GP hasn't posted any proof to his claims. But first want to give to all legal and investigative experts on the forums the chance to find it by themselves to protect their face. ;) You can read in my thread what people all know (or claim to know), so it should be no problem to find it, especially as the source where it can be found is given! In two weeks and one day (Feb 27th) I will call out GP for not making good on this promise. It's on my calendar. Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - POKER CLOSING - 42 BTC BBJP??? ✅ Post by: game-protect on February 13, 2018, 07:29:42 PM Quoted for the record:
Quick reminder: I will publicise their license in 2 weeks. GP hasn't posted any proof to his claims. But first want to give to all legal and investigative experts on the forums the chance to find it by themselves to protect their face. ;) You can read in my thread what people all know (or claim to know), so it should be no problem to find it, especially as the source where it can be found is given! In two weeks and one day (Feb 27th) I will call out GP for not making good on this promise. It's on my calendar. Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - POKER CLOSING - 42 BTC BBJP??? ✅ Post by: game-protect on February 13, 2018, 08:11:29 PM Quick reminder: Quick reminder:GP hasn't posted any proof to his claims. DarkDays was not able to reach his goal and made it possible that betcoin was able to cheat unaware customers for 42 BTC BBJP! My goal is to hold Betcoin accountable for what they have done with the ultimate goal of having them NOT exit scam as Full Flush, Lock, AB, UB, FTP, JetSet, PokerSpot, and many many others have done. And, of course, if they do, to prevent the most people from losing money as humanly possible. Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - POKER CLOSING - 42 BTC BBJP??? ✅ Post by: DarkDays on February 13, 2018, 09:16:14 PM Quick reminder: Quick reminder:GP hasn't posted any proof to his claims. DarkDays was not able to reach his goal and made it possible that betcoin was able to cheat unaware customers for 42 BTC BBJP! My goal is to hold Betcoin accountable for what they have done with the ultimate goal of having them NOT exit scam as Full Flush, Lock, AB, UB, FTP, JetSet, PokerSpot, and many many others have done. And, of course, if they do, to prevent the most people from losing money as humanly possible. Calm down. You haven't proven a single one of your insane claims over several years and are steady scamming people in the community with a lie to "protect them" if a poker site closes. You've now resorted to begging for money because your shitty affiliate portal isn't making any revenue. You've been kicked off of every poker forum because anyone with an IQ above 70 can see through your lies. Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - POKER CLOSING - 42 BTC BBJP??? ✅ Post by: game-protect on February 13, 2018, 10:08:47 PM Quick reminder: Quick reminder:GP hasn't posted any proof to his claims. DarkDays was not able to reach his goal and made it possible that betcoin was able to cheat unaware customers for 42 BTC BBJP! My goal is to hold Betcoin accountable for what they have done with the ultimate goal of having them NOT exit scam as Full Flush, Lock, AB, UB, FTP, JetSet, PokerSpot, and many many others have done. And, of course, if they do, to prevent the most people from losing money as humanly possible. Calm down. You haven't proven a single one of your insane claims over several years and are steady scamming people in the community with a lie to "protect them" if a poker site closes. You've now resorted to begging for money because your shitty affiliate portal isn't making any revenue. Where do I bag for money?As long as Curacao licensing scam operators (https://game-protect.com/curacao-licensing-scam/) victims continue to submit proof of their scam, I do not care at all whether they want to play with consumer protection service or not. You've been kicked off of every poker forum because anyone with an IQ above 70 can see through your lies. Are you able to quote the lies like I have quoted your lie?Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - POKER CLOSING - 42 BTC BBJP??? ✅ Post by: DarkDays on February 14, 2018, 04:39:55 AM Re: "Protection"
Literally your first post on the site: http://www0.xup.in/exec/ximg.php?fid=50181460 Why online Poker, Sports Betting & Casino account consumer protection? Criminal online gaming operators have embezzled and scammed Euro billions from unaware account holder and Game Protect investigation reveals that there are more ticking time bombs on the market! Demand your right, court proceedings and private investigation are time consuming and costly. Hence, we saw the need to introduce a consumer protection service against criminal online gaming operators! Why is Game Protect your # 1 source for online gaming consumer protection service? - Game Protect dispute resolution between you and the operators for your qualified gaming accounts - Lawyer and civil court proceeding, in case you have a valid claim and we can not reach a resolution - Lawyer and private investigations, if operators embezzle (https://game-protect.com/online-gaming-embezzlement/) account balances or players act fraudulent If you love to drive cars without security belt or play at online gambling scams, we wish you good luck! If not, we advise to simply qualify for our online gaming consumer protection service. Also, you know, it's IN YOUR NAME!!!! Re: Begging I explained above what "non-profit" is. No, no one donated anything so far and Game Protect writes red numbers. Brain washed idiots love to get scammed for thousands or 10,000s, but they are not willing to contribute anything to enforce their claim. :D Here's you begging Betking for money: During December BetKing.io will donate 25 Bitcoin, 1 each day leading up to Christmas, to a charity, open source project, crowdfund or anything else and you have now the option to vote for Game Protect and post in the bitcointalk thread I'm donating 25 Bitcoin to good causes this Christmas (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2518270.msg25717816#msg25717816) Hi, sharing my reddit post here. https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/7hgpr0/im_donating_25_bitcoin_to_good_causes_this/ During December I will donate 25 Bitcoin, 1 each day leading up to Christmas, to a cause suggested by r/Bitcoin. It can be a charity, open source project, crowdfund or anything else. I am hoping that these daily posts and donations will encourage others in the community to give Bitcoin this Christmas. Especially people who have benefited from the rise in price recently. Get involved Submit a suggestion in the comments of a cause you would like to see donated to. Also post a link to their Bitcoin donation page (not address) if possible. Even if your suggestion is not donated to by me this month hopefully it may be seen by others here who may choose to donate. Each day I'll pick a cause from the suggestions, likely the most upvoted one, and donate 1 Bitcoin to them. I'll ignore any scams, begging, college fund requests etc. Thanks Dean Here is my application: Game Protect is the only unbiased online gaming consumer protection service in the world and we did not get any money from gambling sites! We are since 1,5 years online and no one was willing to donate anything: https://game-protect.com/donate/ No one was willing to send Bitcoin worth Euro 27 for 3 months or Euro 78 for 1 year online gaming consumer protection service. No operator was willing to join our unbiased Mediation service (https://game-protect.com/mediation-service/). But countless victims with not qualified account issues have asked Game Protect for help and we have spent 1000s of unpaid hours to run the website and help victims! They want to enforce their claim and this requires to pay lawyer and court fee, but 99% are not willing to contribute anything! Alone the uncoverage of the Curacao licensing fraud scheme (https://game-protect.com/curacao-license-scam-1668jaz/) with a damage of over 100s of millions took over 1000 of unpaid hours with the contribution of several people! We have sufficient proof from several victims that payment service providers like Neteller or Skrill are knowingly process money to illegal gambling operators without a valid license and that makes them liable: Neteller intentionally sends money to illegal online gambling sites! (https://game-protect.com/neteller/) With the donation we will be able to start a law suit against Neteller on the Isle of Man. They were already sued in the US and paid a $132 million fine! If the court will confirm the publicly stated and valid laws, Neteller has to stop processing money to over 500 illegal gambling sites and this will benefit honest operators like BetKing.io, because the shady operators will lose 10,000s of customers without the payment service providers! Many players signed up with our Qualify cost free (https://game-protect.com/cost-free/) offer, but the monthly revenue does not even reach $100! Bitcointalk thread: Game Protect - Online Gaming Consumer Protection (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1535816.0) I'm sure there are tons more examples in your cringe-tastic thread but those were the first few I saw in literally 2 minutes worth of looking. You're out of your element. As I said, you've been kicked off of every poker forum because of your scamming. Am I lying? Make a post on 2p2 tonight. Bet ya can't. Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - POKER CLOSING - 42 BTC BBJP??? ✅ Post by: DarkDays on February 14, 2018, 05:07:28 AM Also this is interesting:
https://i.imgur.com/RedIYqM.jpg Oh, and here's you lying about being the one to "uncover" the Glam Life scam: https://i.imgur.com/1FOl2BC.jpg You want to keep going exposing your lies and scams? Or should we get back to Betcoin? Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - POKER CLOSING - 42 BTC BBJP??? ✅ Post by: TwitchySeal on February 14, 2018, 07:51:51 AM Found a couple of his accounts on 2P2.
I'm sure they are both him. https://i.gyazo.com/6346372eba1a621dabc05d2b9e954636.png https://i.gyazo.com/9b0ee56d71b165bcd52bbde8bc73d286.png https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28/internet-poker/lockpoker-payout-scam-cashout-report-via-player-data-year-long-waits-updated-frequently-1359432/index111.html https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28/internet-poker/how-obtain-full-refunds-losses-against-bots-1567645/?highlight=#post48503117 Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - POKER CLOSING - 42 BTC BBJP??? ✅ Post by: game-protect on February 14, 2018, 02:19:28 PM Also, you know, it's IN YOUR NAME!!!! What is IN MY NAME?Re: Begging No, BetKing publicly announced to donate 25 times 1 Bitcoin, asked for suggestions and I applied. This is not begging!I explained above what "non-profit" is. No, no one donated anything so far and Game Protect writes red numbers. Brain washed idiots love to get scammed for thousands or 10,000s, but they are not willing to contribute anything to enforce their claim. :D Here's you begging Betking for money: Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - POKER CLOSING - 42 BTC BBJP??? ✅ Post by: game-protect on February 14, 2018, 02:29:04 PM As I said, you've been kicked off of every poker forum because of your scamming. Game Protect has only one account on pokerfraudalert that is even not used anymore. Let the brain washers wash their brains themselves! :DWho did I scam and how much is the damage? Have you already opened a scam accusation here on bitcointalk? If not, why not? Am I lying? Yes, blatantly!My goal is to hold Betcoin accountable for what they have done with the ultimate goal of having them NOT exit scam as Full Flush, Lock, AB, UB, FTP, JetSet, PokerSpot, and many many others have done. And, of course, if they do, to prevent the most people from losing money as humanly possible. Make a post on 2p2 tonight. Bet ya can't. How much are you willing to bet?I never tried to open an account there, but if you are willing to bet a substantial amount, I might reconsider. :D If they allow criminals like Kahn to do their business there, why would they deny Game Protect? Pretty sure it is only a question of how much money you have to send. ;) Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - POKER CLOSING - 42 BTC BBJP??? ✅ Post by: game-protect on February 14, 2018, 02:38:42 PM Oh, and here's you lying about being the one to "uncover" the Glam Life scam: I am not able to find the words the one and have no idea how someone can be such brain dead, but here is the screenshot I made directly from Betsoft's website: Betsoft scam gaming software (https://game-protect.com/betsoft-scam/)https://i.imgur.com/1FOl2BC.jpg Are you able to quote the lie? Definition lie: To speak falsely or utter untruth knowingly, as with intent to deceive Something like this for example: My goal is to hold Betcoin accountable for what they have done with the ultimate goal of having them NOT exit scam as Full Flush, Lock, AB, UB, FTP, JetSet, PokerSpot, and many many others have done. And, of course, if they do, to prevent the most people from losing money as humanly possible. Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - POKER CLOSING - 42 BTC BBJP??? ✅ Post by: DarkDays on February 14, 2018, 06:28:30 PM Found a couple of his accounts on 2P2. I'm sure they are both him. https://i.gyazo.com/6346372eba1a621dabc05d2b9e954636.png https://i.gyazo.com/9b0ee56d71b165bcd52bbde8bc73d286.png https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28/internet-poker/lockpoker-payout-scam-cashout-report-via-player-data-year-long-waits-updated-frequently-1359432/index111.html https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28/internet-poker/how-obtain-full-refunds-losses-against-bots-1567645/?highlight=#post48503117 Yep, same horrible sentence structure, same lies about being a lawyer. Same name. The truth about Betcoin becomes the truth about Game Protect. But let's stop giving this Russian scamster that can't figure out how to profit from a poker affiliate portal the time of day and get back on topic! Betcoin still hasn't shown proof of their BBJ funds. Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - POKER CLOSING - 42 BTC BBJP??? ✅ Post by: TwitchySeal on February 14, 2018, 07:32:35 PM Game Protect has only one account on pokerfraudalert. False. Games Protect is you. You have at least two accounts on PFAhttps://pokerfraudalert.com/forum/member.php?3248-Game-Protect https://pokerfraudalert.com/forum/member.php?2597-Towerflower The reason you don't post anymore is because Todd deleted your signature (which was obv ad for your site) and forbid you from posting links to your shitty site on his forum. Quote But let's stop giving this Russian scamster that can't figure out how to profit from a poker affiliate portal the time of day and get back on topic! Poker room doesn't even work anymore. Cashouts are taking 3+ days. Support is almost non-existent for the poker room. It seems very likely that all players will have their VIP level reset to zero for poker. (currently they are offering everyone a flat 50%, I expect it to change..unless the room dies first) Betcoin support basically just ignores poker questions or tells players to go ask "BetcoinPoker Support" because "Betcoin" has nothing to do with "BetcoinPoker" Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - POKER CLOSING - 42 BTC BBJP??? ✅ Post by: game-protect on February 14, 2018, 07:35:01 PM Brain washers have always the same behavior! They state a ton of nonsense and when asked for explanation and further questions, they state more nonsense instead! :D
Yep, same horrible sentence structure, same lies about being a lawyer. Who lies about being a lawyer?Same name. What is the same name?Game Protect even did not exist 2014 or 2015 when they were banned! The truth about Betcoin becomes the truth about Game Protect. What truth about Betcoin becomes what truth about Game Protect?Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - POKER CLOSING - 42 BTC BBJP??? ✅ Post by: game-protect on February 14, 2018, 07:46:19 PM The reason you don't post anymore is because Todd deleted your signature (which was obv ad for your site) and forbid you from promoting your site on his forum. Did I inform you about the reason why pokerfraudalert Game Protect account is inactive? If so, please publicise this pm?When and how did he forbid to have Game Protect signature? Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - POKER CLOSING - 42 BTC BBJP??? ✅ Post by: TwitchySeal on February 14, 2018, 07:48:27 PM The reason you don't post anymore is because Todd deleted your signature (which was obv ad for your site) and forbid you from promoting your site on his forum. Did I inform you about the reason why pokerfraudalert Game Protect account is inactive? If so, please publicise this pm?When and how did he forbid to have Game Protect signature? Why are you asking me questions that you know the answer to. I'm not going to waste my time convincing you of something you already know is true. Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - POKER CLOSING - 42 BTC BBJP??? ✅ Post by: DarkDays on February 15, 2018, 01:46:14 AM We can let Vlad spin. That $300/month doesn't earn itself!
Poker room doesn't even work anymore. Cashouts are taking 3+ days. Support is almost non-existent for the poker room. It seems very likely that all players will have their VIP level reset to zero for poker. (currently they are offering everyone a flat 50%, I expect it to change..unless the room dies first) Betcoin support basically just ignores poker questions or tells players to go ask "BetcoinPoker Support" because "Betcoin" has nothing to do with "BetcoinPoker" Have they ran BBJ tables or did they completely do away with it in the hopes that people forget? Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - POKER CLOSING - 42 BTC BBJP??? ✅ Post by: game-protect on February 15, 2018, 06:23:01 PM The reason you don't post anymore is because Todd deleted your signature (which was obv ad for your site) and forbid you from promoting your site on his forum. Did I inform you about the reason why pokerfraudalert Game Protect account is inactive? If so, please publicise this pm?When and how did he forbid to have Game Protect signature? Why are you asking me questions that you know the answer to. I'm not going to waste my time convincing you of something you already know is true. Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - POKER CLOSING - 42 BTC BBJP??? ✅ Post by: DarkDays on February 15, 2018, 06:33:43 PM The reason you don't post anymore is because Todd deleted your signature (which was obv ad for your site) and forbid you from promoting your site on his forum. Did I inform you about the reason why pokerfraudalert Game Protect account is inactive? If so, please publicise this pm?When and how did he forbid to have Game Protect signature? Why are you asking me questions that you know the answer to. I'm not going to waste my time convincing you of something you already know is true. Maybe he'll tell you in two weeks, Alexi. Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - POKER CLOSING - 42 BTC BBJP??? ✅ Post by: TwitchySeal on February 15, 2018, 06:46:31 PM The reason you don't post anymore is because Todd deleted your signature (which was obv ad for your site) and forbid you from promoting your site on his forum. Did I inform you about the reason why pokerfraudalert Game Protect account is inactive? If so, please publicise this pm?When and how did he forbid to have Game Protect signature? Why are you asking me questions that you know the answer to. I'm not going to waste my time convincing you of something you already know is true. Really? You don't remember when Todd told you that you couldn't post links to your site anymore? lol Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - POKER CLOSING - 42 BTC BBJP??? ✅ Post by: game-protect on February 15, 2018, 06:51:20 PM TwitchySeal is a liar!
How to find betcoin's license? 1) Go to Curacao licensing scam operators (https://game-protect.com/curacao-licensing-scam/) 2) Look for the website in bold (Made it now in bold for handicapped investigators :D) 3) Go to the website and scroll down Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - POKER CLOSING - 42 BTC BBJP??? ✅ Post by: TwitchySeal on February 15, 2018, 07:17:36 PM TwitchySeal is a liar! How to find betcoin's license? 1) Go to Curacao licensing scam operators (http://disney.com) 2) Look for the website in bold (Made it now in bold for handicapped investigators :D) 3) Go to the website and scroll down That's a link to his website. Betcoin does not have a license. https://i.gyazo.com/fa069fda8ad2442760be5ae9e88bc373.png Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - POKER CLOSING - 42 BTC BBJP??? ✅ Post by: game-protect on February 15, 2018, 07:30:16 PM The reason you don't post anymore is because Todd deleted your signature (which was obv ad for your site) and forbid you from promoting your site on his forum. Did I inform you about the reason why pokerfraudalert Game Protect account is inactive? If so, please publicise this pm?When and how did he forbid to have Game Protect signature? Why are you asking me questions that you know the answer to. I'm not going to waste my time convincing you of something you already know is true. Really? You don't remember when Todd told you that you couldn't post links to your site anymore? lol Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - POKER CLOSING - 42 BTC BBJP??? ✅ Post by: game-protect on February 15, 2018, 07:33:43 PM TwitchySeal is a liar! How to find betcoin's license? 1) Go to Curacao licensing scam operators (http://disney.com) 2) Look for the website in bold (Made it now in bold for handicapped investigators :D) 3) Go to the website and scroll down That's a link to his website. Betcoin does not have a license. https://i.gyazo.com/fa069fda8ad2442760be5ae9e88bc373.png Yes, because a criminal of the publicly proven betcoin scam (https://game-protect.com/betcoin-ag-scam/) says they have no license, they have none? :D How naive are you? You sound like a 5 year old! Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - POKER CLOSING - 42 BTC BBJP??? ✅ Post by: TwitchySeal on February 15, 2018, 07:44:55 PM The reason you don't post anymore is because Todd deleted your signature (which was obv ad for your site) and forbid you from promoting your site on his forum. Did I inform you about the reason why pokerfraudalert Game Protect account is inactive? If so, please publicise this pm?When and how did he forbid to have Game Protect signature? Why are you asking me questions that you know the answer to. I'm not going to waste my time convincing you of something you already know is true. Really? You don't remember when Todd told you that you couldn't post links to your site anymore? lol Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - POKER CLOSING - 42 BTC BBJP??? ✅ Post by: game-protect on February 15, 2018, 08:13:20 PM GP thinks that because Betsoft has a license makes Betcoin a licensed casino. Obviously that's not how it works. Betcoin is an unlicensed casino. Please post more of your brain wash nonsense!1) Betsoft has 2 licenses, one for their scam gaming software (https://game-protect.com/betsoft-scam/) and the Curacao license is to run a casino. For what do they need a license to run a casino if they have no casino and their scam gaming software is already licensed? 2) You said on pokerfraudalert radio that you believe betsoft is behind betcoin. And if betsoft is behind betcoin and betsoft has a casino license, then betcoin is using this license to run their casino. You are too stupid to understand this, but betcoin needs a license to legally launder all the Bitcoins they have stolen and defrauded from its customers! Alone the 500 or you say 1000 Bitcoins not paid but collected jackpot has currently a value of $10 million! How are they able to launder $10 million thru bank accounts without a casino license? It is not possible! Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - POKER CLOSING - 42 BTC BBJP??? ✅ Post by: TwitchySeal on February 15, 2018, 08:49:56 PM GP thinks that because Betsoft has a license makes Betcoin a licensed casino. Obviously that's not how it works. Betcoin is an unlicensed casino. Please post more of your brain wash nonsense!1) Betsoft has 2 licenses, one for their scam gaming software (https://game-protect.com/betsoft-scam/) and the Curacao license is to run a casino. For what do they need a license to run a casino if they have no casino and their scam gaming software is already licensed? 2) You said on pokerfraudalert radio that you believe betsoft is behind betcoin. And if betsoft is behind betcoin and betsoft has a casino license, then betcoin is using this license to run their casino. You are too stupid to understand this, but betcoin needs a license to legally launder all the Bitcoins they have stolen and defrauded from its customers! Alone the 500 or you say 1000 Bitcoins not paid but collected jackpot has currently a value of $10 million! How are they able to launder $10 million thru bank accounts without a casino license? It is not possible! That doesn't make Betcoin a licensed casino. Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - POKER CLOSING - 42 BTC BBJP??? ✅ Post by: game-protect on February 15, 2018, 09:08:32 PM GP thinks that because Betsoft has a license makes Betcoin a licensed casino. Obviously that's not how it works. Betcoin is an unlicensed casino. Please post more of your brain wash nonsense!1) Betsoft has 2 licenses, one for their scam gaming software (https://game-protect.com/betsoft-scam/) and the Curacao license is to run a casino. For what do they need a license to run a casino if they have no casino and their scam gaming software is already licensed? 2) You said on pokerfraudalert radio that you believe betsoft is behind betcoin. And if betsoft is behind betcoin and betsoft has a casino license, then betcoin is using this license to run their casino. You are too stupid to understand this, but betcoin needs a license to legally launder all the Bitcoins they have stolen and defrauded from its customers! Alone the 500 or you say 1000 Bitcoins not paid but collected jackpot has currently a value of $10 million! How are they able to launder $10 million thru bank accounts without a casino license? It is not possible! That doesn't make Betcoin a licensed casino. You were a poker player, right? No wait, you are from the secret service! Game Protect has more info confirming that betsoft is behind betcoin and that betcoin uses the Curacao license for their business and laundering the scammed Bitcoins. But this is some numbers too high for a poker player! I was at least able to prove that you are lying about Game Protect! You had contact with betcoin and it appears they washed your brain, as you have now the same empty statements and lying style like the other brain washers, liars and shills! Your image was that you have proof for your statements and win win win ask you for that. Instead you continue stating irrelevant nonsense! Is there a cliffs? If TwitchySeal is inquiring, there must be proof. The thread is just too long for me to comb through and game protect post are annoying to read, Constant deflecting like someone who has things to hide. Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - POKER CLOSING - 42 BTC BBJP??? ✅ Post by: DarkDays on February 15, 2018, 09:50:23 PM I told you last year that this guy was going to tard up every thread and make it impossible to have actual discussions.
Here he goes again, spinning his Russian affiliate portal bullshit and sending everyone off on wild tangents because he doesn't understand english and is desperate to herd people to his scam site. Let's take this nonsense to his thread on here (where he's already getting hammered senseless from everyone else) and leave this thread to discuss Betcoin. Cliffs: Betcoin stole the BBJ. Betcoin can't prove it has the funds. The new narrative is that they totally could but they won't because it'll show people there are...other funds?...in there? Has anyone played on the "new site"? Why is it a different site? Are they still raking the BBJ? Are there BBJ tables? Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - POKER CLOSING - 42 BTC BBJP??? ✅ Post by: game-protect on February 15, 2018, 11:09:36 PM Here he goes again, spinning his Russian affiliate portal bullshit and sending everyone off on wild tangents because he doesn't understand english and is desperate to herd people to his scam site. Who did the site scam and how much is the damage? Have you already opened a scam accusation here on bitcointalk? If not, why not?Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - POKER CLOSING - 42 BTC BBJP??? ✅ Post by: iluvbitcoins on February 16, 2018, 01:20:49 AM Website says: We don't have a license
Forum spammer with a red tag: Nuh-uh, they do What makes more sense hmm Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - POKER CLOSING - 42 BTC BBJP??? ✅ Post by: game-protect on February 16, 2018, 01:32:09 AM Website says: We don't have a license TwitchySeal is a liar!Forum spammer with a red tag: Nuh-uh, they do What makes more sense hmm How to find betcoin's license? 1) Go to Curacao licensing scam operators (https://game-protect.com/curacao-licensing-scam/) 2) Look for the website in bold (Made it now in bold for handicapped investigators :D) 3) Go to the website and scroll down I have to admit, if a support criminal from the publicly proven betcoin scam (https://game-protect.com/betcoin-ag-scam/) says they have no license, then they of course have none! :D Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - POKER CLOSING - 42 BTC BBJP??? ✅ Post by: iluvbitcoins on February 16, 2018, 01:36:42 AM Okay.
So, how do you prove they do have a license without linking to your own website? Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - POKER CLOSING - 42 BTC BBJP??? ✅ Post by: game-protect on February 16, 2018, 01:38:36 AM Okay. It is only a question of time until someone will follow the required steps and post it here. ;)So, how do you prove they do have a license without linking to your own website? Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - POKER CLOSING - 42 BTC BBJP??? ✅ Post by: TwitchySeal on February 16, 2018, 01:59:44 AM Okay. So, how do you prove they do have a license without linking to your own website? He has Betsoft on his list of sites licensed by Curacao. He thinks that because Betsoft has a license, and the same people that own Betsoft probably own Betcoin means Betcoin is a licensed Casino. I tried explaining to him that's not how it works but...¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - POKER CLOSING - 42 BTC BBJP??? ✅ Post by: DarkDays on February 16, 2018, 04:03:25 AM Betcoin, in lying about why they won't show proof of BBJ funds, just admitted that they don't segregate player funds.
Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - POKER CLOSING - 42 BTC BBJP??? ✅ Post by: game-protect on February 16, 2018, 01:40:15 PM Okay. So, how do you prove they do have a license without linking to your own website? He has Betsoft on his list of sites licensed by Curacao. He thinks that because Betsoft has a license, and the same people that own Betsoft probably own Betcoin means Betcoin is a licensed Casino. I tried explaining to him that's not how it works but...¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I do think it's extremely likely that the owners of Betsoft are also the owners of Betcoin. If Betsoft is the operator of Betcoin (and they are) and Betsoft has a gaming license in Curacao, then Betcoin uses this license, this is logic!That doesn't make Betcoin a licensed casino. Betcoin needs a license to legally launder the defrauded millions from customers. And while I do not know if true, I am pretty sure that all skins on the WPN need a license to be accepted. Because the WPN serves the US market and they do not want to risk that US authorities have something to attack them if one skin has no license and operates illegal. But let me elaborate Twitchy's logic: - He believes Betsoft is behind Betcoin (Game Protect has info confirming this) - Betsoft has a license for its scam gaming software (https://game-protect.com/betsoft-scam/) and does not need a second license and no license to run a casino. - Even though Betsoft does not need a casino license, they pay a yearly fee for a Curacao fake casino license - Even though Betsoft operates the Betcoin casino, they do not use their casino license for Betcoin! No, they lend it to another (foreign) casino! :D This is Twitchy's logic! Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - POKER CLOSING - 42 BTC BBJP??? ✅ Post by: game-protect on February 16, 2018, 01:55:06 PM The reason you don't post anymore is because Todd deleted your signature (which was obv ad for your site) and forbid you from promoting your site on his forum. Did I inform you about the reason why pokerfraudalert Game Protect account is inactive? If so, please publicise this pm?When and how did he forbid to have Game Protect signature? Why are you asking me questions that you know the answer to. I'm not going to waste my time convincing you of something you already know is true. Really? You don't remember when Todd told you that you couldn't post links to your site anymore? lol When Todd told me and how? Pm or publicly announced on his forum? Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - POKER CLOSING - 42 BTC BBJP??? ✅ Post by: TwitchySeal on February 16, 2018, 06:12:43 PM The reason you don't post anymore is because Todd deleted your signature (which was obv ad for your site) and forbid you from promoting your site on his forum. Did I inform you about the reason why pokerfraudalert Game Protect account is inactive? If so, please publicise this pm?When and how did he forbid to have Game Protect signature? Why are you asking me questions that you know the answer to. I'm not going to waste my time convincing you of something you already know is true. Really? You don't remember when Todd told you that you couldn't post links to your site anymore? lol When Todd told me and how? Pm or publicly announced on his forum? Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - POKER CLOSING - 42 BTC BBJP??? ✅ Post by: game-protect on February 16, 2018, 09:24:20 PM I could, but no need to so not going to waste my time. You waste your time with stating a lot of nonsense to mislead the community, but have no time to say whether Druff sent me a pm or stated it publicly?It is only 1 sentence! No time, huuh? Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - POKER CLOSING - 42 BTC BBJP??? ✅ Post by: TwitchySeal on February 16, 2018, 09:50:36 PM I could, but no need to so not going to waste my time. You waste your time with stating a lot of nonsense to mislead the community, but have no time to say whether Druff sent me a pm or stated it publicly?It is only 1 sentence! No time, huuh? Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - POKER CLOSING - 42 BTC BBJP??? ✅ Post by: game-protect on February 16, 2018, 09:57:11 PM I could, but no need to so not going to waste my time. You waste your time with stating a lot of nonsense to mislead the community, but have no time to say whether Druff sent me a pm or stated it publicly?It is only 1 sentence! No time, huuh? No, I do not know that he removed my signature and told me to quit posting links to Game Protect. How do you know why I quit posting on pokerfraudalert? Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - POKER CLOSING - 42 BTC BBJP??? ✅ Post by: TwitchySeal on February 16, 2018, 10:08:07 PM I could, but no need to so not going to waste my time. You waste your time with stating a lot of nonsense to mislead the community, but have no time to say whether Druff sent me a pm or stated it publicly?It is only 1 sentence! No time, huuh? No, I do not know that he removed my signature and told me to quit posting links to Game Protect. How do you know why I quit posting on pokerfraudalert? If you really think you are allowed to post links to your shitty site on Todds forum go do it and see what happens. Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - POKER CLOSING - 42 BTC BBJP??? ✅ Post by: game-protect on February 16, 2018, 10:35:44 PM Quoted as reference for your stupidness or what? :D
To find out if betcoin has a license, you ask a criminal from the publicly proven betcoin scam (https://game-protect.com/betcoin-ag-scam/) support if they have one? :D :D :D Are you serious? quoted for reference: Quote TwitchySeal is a liar! How to find betcoin's license? 1) Go to Curacao licensing scam operators (http://disney.com) 2) Look for the website in bold (Made it now in bold for handicapped investigators :D) 3) Go to the website and scroll down That's a link to his website. Betcoin does not have a license. https://i.gyazo.com/fa069fda8ad2442760be5ae9e88bc373.png Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - POKER CLOSING - 42 BTC BBJP??? ✅ Post by: game-protect on February 16, 2018, 10:38:19 PM I could, but no need to so not going to waste my time. You waste your time with stating a lot of nonsense to mislead the community, but have no time to say whether Druff sent me a pm or stated it publicly?It is only 1 sentence! No time, huuh? No, I do not know that he removed my signature and told me to quit posting links to Game Protect. How do you know why I quit posting on pokerfraudalert? If you really think you are allowed to post links to your shitty site on Todds forum go do it and see what happens. You say Druff told me, but are not able to show where he told me! Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - POKER CLOSING - 42 BTC BBJP??? ✅ Post by: game-protect on February 28, 2018, 01:28:53 PM I could, but no need to so not going to waste my time. You waste your time with stating a lot of nonsense to mislead the community, but have no time to say whether Druff sent me a pm or stated it publicly?It is only 1 sentence! No time, huuh? I removed the signature voluntarily, because I think that such a mountain of shit should not have the option to play with cost free consumer protection service. With mountain of shit I refer to the brain less brain washers there and not Druff. Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - POKER CLOSING - 42 BTC BBJP??? ✅ Post by: game-protect on March 12, 2018, 12:48:05 AM @ TwitchySeal
Why do you waste so much of your time posting in the betcoin scam thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1616139.0)? How much Bitcoin was compensated based on your bla bla activity? Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - POKER CLOSING - 42 BTC BBJP??? ✅ Post by: game-protect on March 28, 2018, 08:25:45 PM From EthereumCasino.ag- Best ETH Slots, Table Games, Provably Fair, Affiliate Casino! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3208173.msg33397477#msg33397477)
Op were you in a hurry to launch this site? it seems like it, when i clicked on dice game(or any other game) it redirects me to this site(https://api.playbetr.com), why's is this happening? i think you should've taken more time to test everything before you announced it here. Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - POKER CLOSING - 42 BTC BBJP??? ✅ Post by: iluvbitcoins on April 12, 2018, 09:50:21 PM From the original thread.
http://prntscr.com/j4i9nr Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - POKER CLOSING - 42 BTC BBJP??? ✅ Post by: game-protect on April 29, 2018, 12:17:51 PM How are you doing years later?
My goal is to hold Betcoin accountable for what they have done with the ultimate goal of having them NOT exit scam as Full Flush, Lock, AB, UB, FTP, JetSet, PokerSpot, and many many others have done. And, of course, if they do, to prevent the most people from losing money as humanly possible. Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - POKER CLOSING - 42 BTC BBJP??? ✅ Post by: DarkDays on April 29, 2018, 11:14:52 PM How are you doing years later? My goal is to hold Betcoin accountable for what they have done with the ultimate goal of having them NOT exit scam as Full Flush, Lock, AB, UB, FTP, JetSet, PokerSpot, and many many others have done. And, of course, if they do, to prevent the most people from losing money as humanly possible. I'm good. I held them accountable and advised prospective players to not play there. They so far have no exit scammed, and if they do in the future the damage will be mitigated. How are you doing promoting scams and taking under the table money to advise players poorly? Also this isn't the right place to put this. I told you if you continued to tard up relevant threads I'd expose you. Guess it's time to do that. Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - POKER CLOSING - 42 BTC BBJP??? ✅ Post by: game-protect on April 30, 2018, 09:55:12 AM How are you doing years later? My goal is to hold Betcoin accountable for what they have done with the ultimate goal of having them NOT exit scam as Full Flush, Lock, AB, UB, FTP, JetSet, PokerSpot, and many many others have done. And, of course, if they do, to prevent the most people from losing money as humanly possible. I held them accountable and advised prospective players to not play there. They so far have no exit scammed, and if they do in the future the damage will be mitigated. For the victims, what is the difference between exit scam and continuously scam?I think an exit scam is better for victims, because then it is finished whereas a continuous scam brings more and more victims in. So you failed even more! How are you doing promoting scams and taking under the table money to advise players poorly? Which scams do I promote and how and where?Game Protect does not take any money, so I do not know about what are you speaking here? How does Game Protect advise players poorly? It appears you mix Game Protect with the brain wash poker forum 2+2, because there players are really advised badly by affiliates and poker moderators! :D Also this isn't the right place to put this. I told you if you continued to tard up relevant threads I'd expose you. Guess it's time to do that. Quoting brain wash shit from the brain wash poker forum 2+2 is exposing me?Like you held betcoin accountable? :D Children should be not allowed to post here and I really doubt that children are able to hold anyone liable! But nice try to mislead the community! Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - POKER CLOSING - 42 BTC BBJP??? ✅ Post by: DarkDays on April 30, 2018, 11:18:38 PM I held them accountable and advised prospective players to not play there. [/quote] I just wanted to quote this to laugh at you for not knowing what the words that you choose to use mean. Ha-ha. You're retarded. Also more disclosing of your scams since you still aren't following the rules! Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - POKER CLOSING - 42 BTC BBJP??? ✅ Post by: game-protect on April 30, 2018, 11:43:26 PM It was DarkBrain who chose the words I held them accountable, while in reality you did a shit of nothing!
Except misleading the gambling community with your false and misleading claims and blatant lies! Also more disclosing of your scams since you still aren't following the rules! I missed the part where you disclosed my scams? What rules do I not follow? It is blatant liar DarkBrain and TwitchySeal spamming in my thread! Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - POKER CLOSING - 42 BTC BBJP??? ✅ Post by: TwitchySeal on May 01, 2018, 07:30:39 AM SCAM! SCAMMED ME OUT OF THOUSANDS THEY HAVE BRIBED TWITCHYSEAL TO GO TO BAT FOR THEM RECENTLY funny (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1616139.msg35995161#msg35995161) https://i.gyazo.com/b29f8577b8cf62e5e8df20c624c85ae0.png https://i.gyazo.com/3a11a55bf4ac6ac7f0bfff5c2c662bdc.png Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - POKER CLOSING - 42 BTC BBJP??? ✅ Post by: game-protect on May 05, 2018, 12:53:46 PM Quoted for the record:
Feedback 12-03-2018 Quote from: TwitchySeal Game-Protect is nothing more than an obstacle for anyone who wants to hold scummy crypto gambling sites accountable. Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - POKER CLOSING - 42 BTC BBJP??? ✅ Post by: game-protect on May 05, 2018, 12:59:54 PM Also more disclosing of your scams since you still aren't following the rules! Have you already opened Scam Accusations (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0)?If not, why not? How mentally ill / brain dead someone must be claiming scams are committed and does not open scam accusations here on bitcointalk what is a very basic procedure? Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - POKER CLOSING - 42 BTC BBJP??? ✅ Post by: game-protect on May 12, 2018, 10:25:42 AM BrainLess and publicly proven blatant liar TwitchySeal together with his colleague DarkBrain (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=559335) has nothing better to do than making senseless quoted posts in an online gaming consumer protection service thread! ::)
Both are a disgrace for the online gambling community! Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - POKER CLOSING - 42 BTC BBJP??? ✅ Post by: DarkDays on May 13, 2018, 10:13:25 PM Disgrace to the online community, imo:
https://i.imgur.com/zEIN4Lr.jpg I was curious why "Game Protect" denies being "Player Protection" on 2p2. It's so strange, they have nearly identical names, speak with the exact same Russian-learned-English idiosyncrasies, and even have the same use of smilies. Well it turns out that "Player Protection" was trying to scam Skrill out of a "five figure payment". https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28/internet-poker/does-skrill-make-contradictory-statements-their-legally-binding-contract-1589116/ Here's a mod scolding him for getting out of line (and telling him he needed help understanding English...guess he still can't afford those advanced lessons): https://i.imgur.com/a7lPOSm.jpg People seem to find his posts pointless. Also, "Collecting user data"??? https://i.imgur.com/pYtbtNV.jpg "Spreading the same crazy for years with no results". Is Monteroy seeing the future? https://i.imgur.com/sg7TnxJ.jpg Not harmless? https://i.imgur.com/LRDAb71.jpg Looks like "Player Protection" is offering $5,000 for a quote proving him wrong. Sound familiar? https://i.imgur.com/1ooA6W6.jpg https://i.imgur.com/vuRHsyu.jpg https://i.imgur.com/j7SjYiZ.jpg https://i.imgur.com/Q60hk7c.jpg https://i.imgur.com/W5YICVB.jpg Guess he never made good on that offer. What a scammer! But at least he's not trying to message members in private to steal more money from them after a tragedy...wait https://i.imgur.com/rfOpk8B.jpg https://i.imgur.com/WFt2sEo.jpg https://i.imgur.com/59ds60H.jpg https://i.imgur.com/91Zq9by.jpg After 4Q reported the scam private message to the admins... https://i.imgur.com/GjXkFjh.jpg Banned. Guess they are the same person. For some more light reading, here's PFA discussing the scam Game Protect and how he got banned from that forum as well: https://pokerfraudalert.com/forum/showthread.php?14477-Should-Druff-Banhammer-Game-Protect-for-the-sake-of-PFA-and-its-members Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - POKER CLOSING - 42 BTC BBJP??? ✅ Post by: game-protect on May 14, 2018, 11:47:26 AM Russian affiliate scammers aren't very bright. Since when does the nationality of an affiliate scammer play any role?Despite of this, the nationality of affiliate scammer professional rakeback is American. No idea how your DarkBrain figuered out his nationality is Russian, please explain? If Game Protect is connected to the brain shit forum 2+2 as you claim, why do you not quote my bitcointalk posts and post them there? Does this make any sense for someone who has at least 5 brain cells in his head? Or does DarkBrain mean no brain cells at all and just a dark black hole? Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - POKER CLOSING - 42 BTC BBJP??? ✅ Post by: DarkDays on May 15, 2018, 02:43:38 AM Disgrace to the online community, imo: https://i.imgur.com/zEIN4Lr.jpg I was curious why "Game Protect" denies being "Player Protection" on 2p2. It's so strange, they have nearly identical names, speak with the exact same Russian-learned-English idiosyncrasies, and even have the same use of smilies. Well it turns out that "Player Protection" was trying to scam Skrill out of a "five figure payment". https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28/internet-poker/does-skrill-make-contradictory-statements-their-legally-binding-contract-1589116/ Here's a mod scolding him for getting out of line (and telling him he needed help understanding English...guess he still can't afford those advanced lessons): https://i.imgur.com/a7lPOSm.jpg People seem to find his posts pointless. Also, "Collecting user data"??? https://i.imgur.com/pYtbtNV.jpg "Spreading the same crazy for years with no results". Is Monteroy seeing the future? https://i.imgur.com/sg7TnxJ.jpg Not harmless? https://i.imgur.com/LRDAb71.jpg Looks like "Player Protection" is offering $5,000 for a quote proving him wrong. Sound familiar? https://i.imgur.com/1ooA6W6.jpg https://i.imgur.com/vuRHsyu.jpg https://i.imgur.com/j7SjYiZ.jpg https://i.imgur.com/Q60hk7c.jpg https://i.imgur.com/W5YICVB.jpg Guess he never made good on that offer. What a scammer! But at least he's not trying to message members in private to steal more money from them after a tragedy...wait https://i.imgur.com/rfOpk8B.jpg https://i.imgur.com/WFt2sEo.jpg https://i.imgur.com/59ds60H.jpg https://i.imgur.com/91Zq9by.jpg After 4Q reported the scam private message to the admins... https://i.imgur.com/GjXkFjh.jpg Banned. Guess they are the same person. For some more light reading, here's PFA discussing the scam Game Protect and how he got banned from that forum as well: https://pokerfraudalert.com/forum/showthread.php?14477-Should-Druff-Banhammer-Game-Protect-for-the-sake-of-PFA-and-its-members Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - POKER CLOSING - 42 BTC BBJP??? ✅ Post by: DarkDays on May 16, 2018, 09:53:28 PM Disgrace to the online community, imo: https://i.imgur.com/zEIN4Lr.jpg I was curious why "Game Protect" denies being "Player Protection" on 2p2. It's so strange, they have nearly identical names, speak with the exact same Russian-learned-English idiosyncrasies, and even have the same use of smilies. Well it turns out that "Player Protection" was trying to scam Skrill out of a "five figure payment". https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28/internet-poker/does-skrill-make-contradictory-statements-their-legally-binding-contract-1589116/ Here's a mod scolding him for getting out of line (and telling him he needed help understanding English...guess he still can't afford those advanced lessons): https://i.imgur.com/a7lPOSm.jpg People seem to find his posts pointless. Also, "Collecting user data"??? https://i.imgur.com/pYtbtNV.jpg "Spreading the same crazy for years with no results". Is Monteroy seeing the future? https://i.imgur.com/sg7TnxJ.jpg Not harmless? https://i.imgur.com/LRDAb71.jpg Looks like "Player Protection" is offering $5,000 for a quote proving him wrong. Sound familiar? https://i.imgur.com/1ooA6W6.jpg https://i.imgur.com/vuRHsyu.jpg https://i.imgur.com/j7SjYiZ.jpg https://i.imgur.com/Q60hk7c.jpg https://i.imgur.com/W5YICVB.jpg Guess he never made good on that offer. What a scammer! But at least he's not trying to message members in private to steal more money from them after a tragedy...wait https://i.imgur.com/rfOpk8B.jpg https://i.imgur.com/WFt2sEo.jpg https://i.imgur.com/59ds60H.jpg https://i.imgur.com/91Zq9by.jpg After 4Q reported the scam private message to the admins... https://i.imgur.com/GjXkFjh.jpg Banned. Guess they are the same person. For some more light reading, here's PFA discussing the scam Game Protect and how he got banned from that forum as well: https://pokerfraudalert.com/forum/showthread.php?14477-Should-Druff-Banhammer-Game-Protect-for-the-sake-of-PFA-and-its-members Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - POKER CLOSING - 42 BTC BBJP??? ✅ Post by: actmyname on May 16, 2018, 10:03:20 PM How mentally ill someone must be to state things without any connection to the reality!!! The fact that you simply dismiss DarkDays's replies and try to deflect with an ad hominem doesn't really grant you any favors.Do you think DarkBrain is in a closed clinic in the US? Or do you think he is still allowed to go out few hours with a keeper? If you're trying to defend yourself, why don't you do it properly instead of resorting to child-like behavior? These playground insults are making you look bad, not 'DarkBrain'. And let's not forget that double-posting is against the forum rules, never mind triple-posting. Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - POKER CLOSING - 42 BTC BBJP??? ✅ Post by: actmyname on May 16, 2018, 10:37:11 PM He re-posted countless times a ton of brain shit from the brain wash forum 2+2 in my thread and this makes me look bad? Yes.He blatant lies that the Game Protect account on pokerfraudalert forum is banned and this makes me look bad? Okay. So you're not banned but how come a supposedly-reputable user involved in legal cases is so controversial, to the point where a potential ban was being actively discussed for you?He does not care, but moderators meanwhile deleted his countless double posts in my thread. Nevertheless he continues to re-post it again! Only a mentally ill do such things! I meant your triple-posting. Edit them into one reply.By the way, what is this? [Link (https://pokerfraudalert.com/forum/showthread.php?12672-ProfessionalRakeback-com-is-a-SCAM-and-they-are-promoting-a-SCAM-poker-site-named-Full-Flush-Poker&p=760076&viewfull=1#post760076)] Quote from: Dan Druff Quote from: SetofKs Did this end up getting resolved? It got resolved in that no one got their money, and Jon Brown of professionalrakeback.com bought (or got control of) the fullflushpoker.com domain, which he then used to promote the other "safer" sites with which he had affiliate deals.The guy has no shame. Quote from: Game Protect Quote from: SetofKs Did this end up getting resolved? Yes, those who joined the proceeding will receive 70%.So... 70% of what? 0? Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - POKER CLOSING - 42 BTC BBJP??? ✅ Post by: game-protect on May 16, 2018, 10:54:30 PM He re-posted countless times a ton of brain shit from the brain wash forum 2+2 in my thread and this makes me look bad? Yes.He blatant lies that the Game Protect account on pokerfraudalert forum is banned and this makes me look bad? Okay. So you're not banned but how come a supposedly-reputable user involved in legal cases is so controversial, to the point where a potential ban was being actively discussed for you?I am not aware about a potential ban, I was never warned by Dan Druff. He does not care, but moderators meanwhile deleted his countless double posts in my thread. Nevertheless he continues to re-post it again! Only a mentally ill do such things! I meant your triple-posting. Edit them into one reply.https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1616152.msg37191281#msg37191281 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1616152.msg37306753#msg37306753 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1616152.msg37508797#msg37508797 Are persistent duplicate posts allowed? By the way, what is this? It appears to be a thread on the pokerfraudalert forum?[Link (https://pokerfraudalert.com/forum/showthread.php?12672-ProfessionalRakeback-com-is-a-SCAM-and-they-are-promoting-a-SCAM-poker-site-named-Full-Flush-Poker&p=760076&viewfull=1#post760076)] Quote from: Dan Druff Quote from: SetofKs Did this end up getting resolved? It got resolved in that no one got their money, and Jon Brown of professionalrakeback.com bought (or got control of) the fullflushpoker.com domain, which he then used to promote the other "safer" sites with which he had affiliate deals.The guy has no shame. Quote from: Game Protect Quote from: SetofKs Did this end up getting resolved? Yes, those who joined the proceeding will receive 70%.So... 70% of what? 0? Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - POKER CLOSING - 42 BTC BBJP??? ✅ Post by: actmyname on May 17, 2018, 09:09:08 PM I meant your triple-posting. Edit them into one reply. How do you call what DarkBrain is doing?https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1616152.msg37191281#msg37191281 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1616152.msg37306753#msg37306753 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1616152.msg37508797#msg37508797 Are persistent duplicate posts allowed? Also kind of weird when you refer (https://archive.is/DFPDu) people to a scam site. Your words (https://archive.is/5Hc8A#selection-453.1304-453.1319), not mine. (Stake and Onehash are also on the list) Title: Re: ✅ɃETCOIN.AG - POKER CLOSING - 42 BTC BBJP??? ✅ Post by: game-protect on May 18, 2018, 12:23:16 AM I meant your triple-posting. Edit them into one reply. How do you call what DarkBrain is doing?https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1616152.msg37191281#msg37191281 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1616152.msg37306753#msg37306753 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1616152.msg37508797#msg37508797 Are persistent duplicate posts allowed? Why do you continue to deflect? DarkDays is doing something different. What is DarkBrain doing? In your case, you are posting consecutively. In fact, on the previous page, you had literally five replies in a row. 2 x February 16, 1x February 28, 1x March 12 and 1x March 28 is 5 times in a row?Also kind of weird when you refer (https://archive.is/DFPDu) people to a scam site. Your words (https://archive.is/5Hc8A#selection-453.1304-453.1319), not mine. (Stake and Onehash are also on the list) Where do I say FortuneJack is a scam site?Why is it weird to offer consumer protection service inclusive for Curacao based casinos? Considering the many scam reports it is urgently required. :) |
