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Since TECSHARE apparently can't handle outside opinions regarding his personal feelings toward Flying Hellfish, the P&S moderator, I thought it prudent to open my own thread regarding the issue to foster an uncensored discussion about censorship.

His latest critique (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5103785.msg52085045#msg52085045) of FH reads as follows:


I just want to know why you didn't mention that the topic in reference was his own. Anybody is allowed to delete their own topic in P&S; that's not against the rules, so I don't know how it would pertain to "SELECTIVE ENFORCEMENT AND CENSORSHIP." Can you please elaborate on this and why it is worth mentioning in your locked thread about censorship?

Self-enforcement is a logical extension to self-flagellation, and there is a lot of self-flagellation here. :)

It seems Meta board has never been lack of drama. In short, self-moderation is a kind of censorship, as same as post deleting by moderators. Censoships, in turn, have two sides:
- Positive: To help the forum as clean as possible by censor shitposts, off-topic posts, trolling, etc. or to help threads' owners kick out bad posters in their threads. I don't see any kind of bad effects of censorship in those cases. Someone who step in house of others, have to self-understand that they have to accept local rules of those householders. If they don't accept local rules, don't step in, just stay outside. If they don't accept local rules, but still try to step in, they will be kicked out sooner or later; and they have to accept that fact.
- Negative: bad guys can create their self-moderated threads, then use their rights of censorship to manipulate their threads in the way they originally want, such as to scam investors. In those case, posts that say facts about scam projects will be censored by threads' creators.

This again?  What was the thread that got deleted?  I can't see what it was about and thus can't pass any judgement on either FH or TECSHARE--but I know those two are feuding at the moment.

I think people in P&S like to argue, which makes sense, and it doesn't surprise me that TECSHARE frequents that section.  I don't understand the draw to it or other related sections like Off-Topic, since they're mostly spam (I think; I haven't visited either one of them lately).  There are lots of other discussion boards dealing with politics, so if you don't like the moderation in that one section here....find another place to talk about that stuff, maybe? 

I've read complaints about FH before, but he doesn't seem to be doing anything other than his job.  Perhaps TECSHARE will weigh in on this.

I second that, and for me  the serious discussion board is appropriate for that, i myself feel more comfortable posting real life matters and also topics on politics, philosophy etc in the SD section, the only thing is it probably doesn't get enough traffic as it will in the P&S board, but that's not a problem, few good replies is actually better than unnecessary back and forth arguments and incessant complaints on censorship.

Can we just stop allowing TECSHARE to continue his personal attacks on Flying Hellfish and just let them sort it out privately? This thread is not going to achieve anything and the only thing it will do is create drama here on the forum which I think we have had about enough this year.

Well it's his topic, I don't see the reason why he can't delete his own topic in the first place. Of course it would be a different story when he is using his position to screen all thread he is receiving. If I am an OP and I see one of my threads is getting out of hand I am glad that I always have a choice that I'll be able to delete the topic and all the conversation once and for all. It's like how a newbie reacts when he doesn't get the answers he wants or the topic simply gets out of hand he either abandons it or he deletes it on his own.

As usual the fucking trolls make an assumption and state it as fact.  I did NOT delete my thread.  Although having a locked censorship thread doesn't allow me to actually correct the stunned cunt!

Ironically I am curious which global (or admin) decided it was breaking forum rules in order to delete it.  Hopefully whoever it was will see this and chime in for me.

Having the ability to do something does not AUTOMATICALLY mean you did that thing...

In another twist, the thread as mentioned by the OP was MINE and self mod'd.  FFS I am allowed to delete any or all posts and then the thread (self mod'd) I want end of fucking story just like ANY OTHER USER, don't like it well tongue my sweaty taint!!!





If you're looking for the trolls to understand IRONY you are pissing into a hurricane mate!

It awful convenient that a troll like TECSHARE will leave out important facts like it was a self mod'd thread so he (FH) like any other user is perfectly allowed to do this.


TECSHARE crying like a bitch in a locked thread of his about me (NOT) deleting my own self mod'd thread.

P&S is full of right wing conspiracy retards at the moment, the echo chamber is a full on circle jerk of retardedness, once in a while something I do will piss off one of the hard core trolls and they will cry and cry and cry, so loud everyone else MUST listen.  Once in a while it spills over to META as well, BTCT has some over achieving trolls what  are you gonna do?!

Well, that answers that.


I agree with this -- the disproportionality of right and left in P&S is a bit unnerving. Its a bit daunting to post comments that aren't in line with right wing groupthink. Something about bitcoin attracts right-wing conspiracy enthusiasts. What's funny is here, I'm a big lib, but if I go to Facebook I'm on the right...

Oh well, FH you're doing the best job you can, despite the wackiness of some of your board residents..

Just because you are allowed to do it doesn't mean it does not reflect poorly on you. Thanks everyone for helping me draw more attention to these issues. Much appreciated.

MORE DOUBLE STANDARDS FROM NUTILDAH - this Dirty Turd and his GANG who advocated giving RED TRUST for deleting posts from a self moderated thread if it is done to them LOL

BUT nobody else is even allowed to complain about it.

Nutildah just gives red trust for content you present that he does not like regarding his observable past as a scam facilitator for 0.3 BTC and demonstrating his friends are equally as dirty,  and his friends VOD, ADOLPHINWOLF AND LFC  direct give red trust for daring to self moderate your own thread.  why not complaining about that scum bag??

So nutildah prefers to give RED TRUST for words (TRUTH) that he does not like spoken. And self moderation is allowed if it fits with DT's approval. However if you self mod and delete their posts you will get a SCAM TAG??

Got to love the clear racket this board is allowing.






Well NO not really. Several DT scumbags believe self moderated threads mean you get RED TRUST for deleting their groundless off topic and irrelevant junk.

You delete something they don't like IT'S A PROBLEM. Like vod who came to our thread screaming OG is a liar 2x which we allowed, but told him he must present proof if he keeps repeating it. He then just said it again with no evidence. We deleted it and said sorry you must present evidence of this claim and he goes and gives us a scam tag.

Same for that other miscreant and untrustworthy shit stain aldophinwolf

Then Laudas Feltching Clown again gives red trust for deleting his bogus junk.


AS YOU CAN SEE YOU CAN NOT DELETE WANT YOU WANT HERE ON A SELF MODERATED THREAD.

User   Date   Reference   Comments
nutildah   2019-07-20      491 posts of pure trash talking, hatred and vitriol. Not one good-willed or even well-intentioned thought among thousands of rambling sentences. Cryptohunter is a spiteful lunatic who seemingly will not rest until the forum has been destroyed. Avoid interactions with this user, or his alt accounts, at all cost.
bitmover   2019-06-12   Reference   Rude, childish and delusional (attacking me without any reason). Not trustworth.
AdolfinWolf   2019-05-30      Self moderated threads are really the epitome of being a scammer.
Especially considering what posts you're deleting.
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Please, do not converse with these trolls anymore.
LFC_Bitcoin   2019-05-27      Hides behind self moderated threads & deletes any posts that don’t suit his narrative.
Coward & total cunt. Do not trust this person. See multiple other red trust for clarification.
Vod   2019-05-06   Reference   Deletes my words and replaces them with his own, in his censored thread. This is the last time I will interact with this coward.
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THEYMOS changed the trust system for the better but leaves a FUCKING HUGE RED SIGHN ON YOUR ACCOUNT SAYING YOU ARE FINANCIALLY DANGEROUS AND A SCAMMER if you have more negatives than positives on THE OLD SHIT SYSTEM THAT HAD TO BE CHANGED BECAUSE TRUST ABUSING DIRTY TURDS LIKE YOUR PALS LAUDA, TMAN, AND THESE OTHER STINKERS  are giving out scam tags to whistleblowers.  So just because you were trust abused under the system that was so broken it allowed this kind of abuse you are branded a scammer now for life. That's a good plan.

So yes people apparently CAN COMPLAIN IF YOU DELETE THEIR COMMENTS AND THEY ARE WELL WITHIN THEIR RIGHTS TO GIVE YOU A SCAM TAG ACCORDING TO THE BOARD RULES. We they can if they are untrustworthy shit stains that get themselves elected to DT within this broken down moronic design we have right now.

Luckily new members or those getting this trust abuse against their accounts from now on will not get that YOU ARE A SCAMMER NOTICE AT THE TOP OF EVERY THREAD THEY START.

Give the scum bag a red tag and see how he likes it. You can get a red tag here for doing ANYTHING the Dirty turds don't like. However you can not even COMPLAIN if they do the same things they give a scam tag for.

FLUSH THESE TURDS FOR FFS THEYMOS. This boards trust pool is a fucking embarrassment and they mostly all make sure they are getting paid at the highest rates here in meta to post these kind of blatant double standards turds. BAN SIGS IN META so we don't need to read their self serving garbage.

Funny how when tecshare is dead wrong about something he just ignores it like it never happened. This is the first thread that he's run away from as far as I can remember. Normally he can't stand not having the last word.

You're allowed to complain all you like, but man....when you keep writing long screeds like this one, don't expect people to even finish reading, much less give you any credibility.  Nobody is censoring dissent here.  It just happens that your arguments don't garner a lot of support, which is a fact that you keep missing.

In his defense, a lot of people do the exact same thing whether they're right or wrong.

Maybe he's growing up.  Hey, he included me on his trust list, which is something I never expected.  But I suspect he won't stop being such a hothead.  That's apparently in his nature--and the thread isn't locked yet, so there's still time for him to come back and give his retort.

1. Independently verifiable observable instances do not require the person presenting them to have ANY credibility.
2. There is NO argument, the post above demonstrates clear and undeniable double standards.
3. To "garner support" in meta for highlighting UNDENIABLE PROBLEMS with the systems of control is impossible since the people that frequent meta are those that benefit the most from preventing changes taking place, and will deny any problems exist. Like yourself.

Example.

VOD - comes to our self moderated thread and makes the same accusation 2x that OG  is a LIAR and untrustworthy . We allowed it 2x but told him he MUST present clear corroborating evidence to keep plastering the same assumption on our self moderated thread and deleted his 3rd accusation claiming THE SAME THING.  He  then gives us RED TRUST claiming this is untrustworthy?? WTF  even if we had removed ALL 3 instances of his unsubstantiated claims it would not be untrustworthy, but we allowed it to remain there the first 2 x ???

On our other self moderated threads, other idiots turn up and make ACCUSATIONS or statements again with NO corroborating evidence or even attempting to validate their claims.. We deleted those and received more RED TRUST.

WE ON THE OTHER HAND ask hhampuz a question and EVEN VALIDATE THE QUESTIONS WITH CLEAR UNDENIABLE OBSERVABLE INSTANCES THAT NOBODY EVEN ATTEMPTED TO REFUTE OR DENY BECAUSE THEY CAN NOT ....what happens?????? we get red trust for LYING??? DEFAMATION???  This is ridiculous and observably a broken system to even allow this. 

LOL  this is independently verifiable.  We don't require support for any argument. 

The FACT you are unable to still grasp this point, and still believe that one must be "credible" to present observable instances that are independently verifiable is quite amusing.

The FACT you are being paid to output this low functioning drivel is certainly something that should be questioned when being one of a tiny handful of people being paid to post at the very highest rates on the entire board. Really such campaigns should be called to explain their choices and provide explanation if these posters make far to many public posts that are debunked and of low to negative value.

We say again. These types of net negative posts are more damaging than pure spam. Those readers that are placing faith in gamed nonsense like merit may take your words to have some value when they are grossly net negative.

There is clear PRESSURE both in terms of REWARD (merits) and PUNISHMENT (double standards trust abuse) to censor and crush free speech. This has been mitigated slightly with the new trust system, however still much work to do if you really want to see a fair(er) environment for all members.

I have already explained myself and said everything that needed to be said in my op. This is just another sad cry for attention from nutilduhh.

Actually I was genuinely curious as to why you never admitted you were wrong about FH deleting his thread. He didn't delete it, yet you continue to insist that he did. It was just a little bizarre to me.

Because TECSHARE isn't interested in what ACTUALLY happened he is ONLY interested in pushing his agenda and playing the victim card.

Having a locked thread where only he can complain about a problem isn't the act of someone who wants to discuss and understand an issue but someone who sticks his fingers in his ears and whines so he can't hear anyone else.

Nope. That is you to a T. What my post is is a log of your selective enforcement and your inability to separate your personal feelings from your job as a moderator. No discussion is required, and as you see if discussion is desired a thread such as this can be opened. What exactly is the issue?

To some people lying would be an issue but not to you apparently ;D

Gotta love a thin-skinned megatroll snowflaking into a muddy puddle.

Oh no, don't call me names. You appropriated "our word" snowflake! I am double shook! This entire thread is just a collection of people incapable of engaging in logical debate desperately seeking attention via other means. Do you people get the impression when you collect a bunch of stupid together in a group it makes you any smarter? Learn to have a logic based discussion, then maybe you won't need to scrape the bottom of the barrel for shit like this in a pathetic attempt at retribution for logging abuse of authority by your staff buddy.

Oh well, kudos to The Pharmacist for giving you the benefit of the doubt, even if in vain.

Are you going to admit that you are mistaken about FH deleting his own thread or...

What is this - >  ?

Its a question mark in big red font.

So just out of curiosity, why have you refused to acknowledge this information?


I'm genuinely curious as to what your thinking is.

I am just making sure you understand the meaning of a question mark considering it was included in your quote of mine. I presented a question, not a statement. Do you propose the fact that I posed this question was mistaken?

Uh, what? I didn't add the question mark, it was part of your original post.

This has nothing to do with FH not being the one who deleted his thread as you claim. Even after it was pointed out to you that the answer to your "question" was "no", you still wrote this:


He never did it to begin with, so obviously there is zero chance of it reflecting poorly on him.

You also avoided my other question: why didn't you mention he was the one who opened the thread?

You make garbage insinuations and then try to evade responsibility for them with dodge-and-parry techniques, which is why nobody takes you seriously. Well I mean that and ridiculing people for locking their threads when you do the same thing. And, let's be honest, basically doing everything under the sun that you accuse others of doing.

Why didn't I mention he is a Canadian? Why didn't I mention he is a Communist? I don't have responsibilities for your delusional attention seeking interpretations created as a pathetic attempt at retribution for exposing your inability to hold a legitimate political debate with me. I asked a question. You made interpretations, now expect me to take responsibility for them. Uh no. It is cute however seeing you struggle to put me on the defensive. Keep scraping that barrel, maybe you'll find something nutilduhhh.

What does that have to do with him not deleting the thread?


You're reaching Quicksy's levels of projection. A lot of stuff that you're saying about others seems to be more applicable to yourself. When was the last time you were wrong?

Oh brother.  ::)


I think we just found everything there is to find.

I keep forgetting that you are your own worst enemy. But at the same time I just thought it was stupid that you thought a moderator shouldn't be allowed to delete their own thread, which he didn't do anyway, so, at the very least you should edit your post to remove your high integrity journalistic investigation post about the Missing Flying Hellfish Thread Mystery. Something tells me you won't though.

Nothing, because it is a reply to the other question "why didn't I state it was his thread?" I tend to not engage in discussion of subjects of which I have little understanding. I know to some people this is a hard concept to grasp, being informed before having an opinion, but I do try.

No projection. Nutilduh is an emotionally driven stalker with the inability to argue points based in logic and is largely motivated by lack of emotional control. It is always the same thing, struggling to craft some wrongdoing in other parts of the forum because you can't argue your beliefs like an adult. It is much like yourself, only Nutilduhh just happens to be more far gone. You at least have some understanding of this dynamic by now whereas Nutilduhh doesn't even see the saddle on his back. Keep chasing that carrot.



Maybe if you repeat it enough times I will believe it. I never said "a moderator shouldn't be allowed to delete his own threads", again this is just more projection of your own making. After Flying Hellfish flew off the handle the last time I was instructed to post anything I found abusive in the appropriate meta subforum. This is what I am doing. I am so very sorry this is not to your liking. Perhaps some salve to sooth your posterior is in order?

It is rhetorical question as I can see, don't play dumb. Don't play political games here, you are not smart as you think you are.

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TECHARE assumed that FH deleted thread and now they turned they eyes blind about this issue, my question is:

Are you going to remove/edit your lie/assumption or not?



In case TECSHARE does not want to address this because "he missed question", again:

Hey look who else popped out of the clown car. Good to know everyone else gets to tell me the meaning of my own words, but when I tell you the meaning of my own words it is invalid. I asked a question, then a bunch of sad saps suffering from chronic butt pain line up to try to create a circus. I don't need to delete anything. Feel free to see who else you can scrounge up with a score to settle if it makes you all feel better. I have been completely transparent and all you are doing is drawing more attention to my op with your twisting and moaning. You'd figure you people would get the point that this dog piling strategy of yours has the opposite of the intended effect by now, but keep it up, I have enough carrots and saddles for all of you.

See? You are too stupid to see that you are addressing your own rhetorical questions. Well, that did not surprise me, after all, you scanned Rick Astley for viruses https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5158058.msg51588954#msg51588954  :D

Thank you for your input. Anything about this:

?

I already answered your question. Learn to read. Or just keep repeating yourselves, whatever you like.

You did not, look:

And you said:
Does not answer anything.

It is simple yes/no question.

Are you going to edit/remove your assumption/lie or not?

Ok, another question(yes/no).

Do you think it is wrong to say that "moderator removed thread" even moderator said that he didn't remove thread?

You don't need to write essay, just say simple yes/no.

You have little understanding of who is an OP of a thread? That would explain quite a few of your problems.


Another bouquet of fallacies here. An average adult person would probably apologize and move on but thank internet gods you're not such a person and you'll keep entertaining us with this sanctimonious egotistical drivel.

Apologize for what? Asking a question? You people are the only ones who have any control over whether you get offended or not. I am not responsible for your fantasies and projections.

TECSHARE should apologize to flying hellfish and remove that post?

I'm not offended. FHF likely isn't particularly offended either - he already knows that you're a grade A douchenozzle. It's all about you and your leet debating skills, AKA making shit up as you go.

More fantasy and projection. Tell me, what part of your cavernous anus did you pull this idea from this time?


I didn't do anything wrong. You imagine I did, but maybe you can imagine me apologizing since it offends you so much. Oh wait no one is offended. Why is this thread here?



Yes, I am sure it is just a total coincidence Nutilduhh always starts these threads in other parts of the forum after getting his precious and frail sensibilities upset by being exposed to ideas he does not agree with in Politics and Society and not just being allowed to brow beat people into submission into his views. Tell me, what did I make up here? My language and intent was 100% transparent start to finish. While you are at it, tell me, if no one is offended, why is this thread even here?

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Reference link points to this post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5173424.msg52228074#msg52228074). Can someone please tell me what does this mean:

"abuse the trust system in retribution for calling out the misbehavior of his buddies. See reference."

I am looking at reference and I can't find trust abuse  ???

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Anyway, I have sent PM to TECSHARE to unlock thread so I can add something:

When he reopens thread I will post some important data about this matter.

This is an off topic conversation that belongs in the reputation subforum. I will not be unlocking the thread. The trust system is intended to help prevent theft and fraud, you are using it to fight your petty interpersonal disputes. You are certainly well within the rules to leave a neutral rating. Still it reflects poorly on you, as you feel the need to use the system designed to protect traders to serve as a tool for petty retribution for the crime of disagreeing when a discussion in an open forum fails you.


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Seems like a few people have trouble with people disagreeing with them. BTW, if you are going to call me names at least be creative, don't just repeat my words back to me.

It is not off topic. It is about post(s) from this thread which is related to locked thread.

So, you lied.

It seems that you think that I left you this comment because of this thread. If so, my feedback is very accurate  :)

I have no obligation to unlock my thread for you and made no such promises. You may feel entitled to post there but that doesn't make me a liar. More creative interpretations from the clown brigade in this sad little puppet show you are trying to run.

It's truly amazing how this amoeba with zero reading comprehension and an ego the size of Mont Blanc was voted into DT1 and is just a few votes away from being an active member, despite having no knowledge of or interest in how the trust system actually works.


It's a neutral rating. The explanation literally says "other comments". Which you must be aware of since you had to click that option when you posted retaliatory ratings.

So your feedback on my profile calling me mentally ill is to prevent me from stealing? 

It has nothing to do with your jealousy of me?  You don't have a interpersonal dispute with me?

lol

So are you all just going to keep lining up and repeating each other one after another? I already responded to this. Why is my rating retaliatory and his isn't? Because he left it first? Funny how definitions of words and standards are always shifting with you people. If my rating is retaliatory then it has an impact, one he should not have utilized to settle his petty dispute, but if it has no impact how can it be retaliatory? Just more of the rules for thee but not for me standard you are used to.


You tell me. Is this going to be what, the 4th time you ignore me forever now? Poor Vod always minding his own business getting called out for his harassment and cowardly attempts to use the power of the state steam roller try to harass some one who dares disagree with him on a forum.


I wish I had no relationship to you whatsoever, but you seem obsessed with me and bounce between pretending to ignore me and following me around in the community clown car.

So when you say:
...you don't really mean it.
Of course not, Pinocchio.

Your rating is retaliatory because you left it as response to my rating which I left you after longer observation of your profile, which you think I left you because of this thread, which is wrong, but you are never wrong.

"Retaliatory" is not about actual impact, just your intent of an impact.

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More lies...  I didn't fly off the handle last time because I had no idea nor do I give a fuck you were instructed to do anything.  Sorry buddy you just don't matter enough!

Ironically I don't actually give any fucks about your little weird obsession with me locked thread, which is probably why I didn't open a REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE thread myself.  But since you showed up shitting lies out all over the place I felt like stopping in and saying a piece.

I see. So why is it my rating is retaliatory and his is just by pure coincidence on the same day? Oh right standards only matter when you can apply them to me and your friends have no obligation to treat anyone as they wish to be treated, because reasons.



Oh but you did fly off the handle (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5067125.0;all). More than once. No one asked if you give a fuck, and I certainly don't care. Yeah what a weirdo who wants to have open political discussion instead of only discussion you consider valid (IE only those that agree with you).

OK.  You are a hypocrite for saying one thing and doing another.

You ran your little con, reselling garbage in exchange for positive DT feedback.  But that was years ago - since your opinion was deemed unimportant you have done nothing but chase after those who still have what you want.

I am more than proud that you have lumped me with the likes of FH.

:)

I like FH, he is funny and cunty in a good way - Techspaz on the other hand is cunty in a bad way - like end of a gangbang 20 spunks in the cunt bad..

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TMAN IS BACK BITCHES

My little con? You mean selling low priced items that no other highly trusted user wants to waste the time on because of higher workload and minimal to no profits so new users can have a comfortable introduction to trading on the forum and in Bitcoin? You mean that con? What a sneak I am using the trust system exactly as it was intended and not just pretending to be internet police like you all! I would have got away with it too if it weren't for you meddling Canukistani psychopaths. Remind me, what does any of this have to do with the op? Oh right nothing. The op was just a pathetic excuse to round up all of the featured clowns here in the clown car to throw pies in retribution for speaking up about your collective bad behavior. You sure proved me wrong!

Everyone knows Flying Hellfish is a liberal nut job that unfairly moderates P&S, as this has been long established already.  He's likely what is pointed at as an example of allowing alternative views to keep the guise of decentralization on this forum.  In that sense, he's filling his role as expected.

That's called projection retard, you might think I "flew off the handle" but in reality I am laughing at you like everyone else is!  Meanwhile you are still an irrelevant troll (with a bunch of votes in the OFFICIAL troll poll to prove it!).


Everyone = OG and TESCHARE

You two cunts have been crying about me for about a year and yet theymos hasn't done anything...

Careful now cupcake. You are now getting your employer involved directly in your little pie flinging fest. He didn't restore OG Nasty's post and say

"It was incorrect for OgNasty's post in that thread about the California shooting to be deleted; I restored it." (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5067125.msg47814958#msg47814958)

Seems like that is something. The really funny part is you think because "he hasn't done anything" he won't. I get the feeling he shares my sense of humor on giving people enough rope to hang themselves with.

Reeeeeeeeeeee techcunt spends time on 4chan.

Techcunt loves OG

Flying helfish for president

If that's how you prefer to phrase it, ok.   You re-sold BTW - you didn't introduce anything new to the marketplace. 

Then you lost your ability to give users positive DT, and you decided to stop helping new users, right?

@Techshare, are you going to admit that you are wrong about this and unlock thread so we can have nice conversation on how wrong you are?

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Hah!
Well look who jumped out of ponzi wagon to lecture us. Thanks God no one is taking this ponziarian seriously. This is just another example how OGNasty is unable to read thread and jumps straight ahead to reply button.

On mirror battle, who would win most "me me me" reward, OG or T?

"I view his political beliefs as ~80% insane."

LOL.  The truth hurts.  As I previously stated, he exists to serve a role, and that role isn't being a good moderator.

Lol!

Who said I introduced anything new to the marketplace? Oh right you. You know what I change my mind Vod, you aren't a clown. You are the sad party magician that only has a handful of tricks and just keeps recycling them over and over again, no one buying any of them, so you get resentful of everyone not buying your bullshit and just become an even sadder more bitter party magician. You do carpool in the community clown car though.


Here we are. What is stopping you?

Thanks idiot.   :)

Why do you continue to leave inappropriate feedback while posting in multiple threads that feedback should not be used for personal vendettas?  

By saying I am mentally ill, does that give your brain the shot of dopamine you need to continue existing?  Do you actually believe it stops people from getting scammed by your buddy OG?  Let other people get the same dopamine rush - stop being a hypocrite.  

Remind me again, what does any of this have to do with the topic? Oh right nothing.

There is no reason to give people a courtesy they do not extend to me or others. You have a lot of nerve lecturing me about using trust ratings for personal vendettas (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=915823.0). P.S. I know it is hard, but work on generating your own thoughts instead of just repeating mine back at me as if it makes you look smart.

People are going to start to wonder if your role is to spread baseless conspiracy theories against theymos!

Ironically in my "mod interview" thread I don't recall any discussion about my political beliefs, it's almost as if the important thing was my ability to enforce the rules vs my political affiliation.  Digiran did try to bring in my Anti-theist beliefs into the thread but got smacked back like the retard troll he was, immediately.

You and TS should try to look beyond your blind rage against anything not HARD RIGHT.

Since the hard left trolls hate me as much as the hard right trolls do and since I'm still a mod that is left alone, then I assume on the right course.  When I am informed rationally by someone who actually matters I can and will address as needed.

Except I don't run away from discussions with you. If I hated everything that doesn't agree with my "hard right" (lol) views why would I even talk to people who disagreed with me? I don't hate you, I just think you are irrational, have bad ideas which I can demonstrably explain why they are bad, and you abuse your authority to target those that don't agree with you. In the end no matter how much you claim I hate you, you still have the mod buttons and all I have are words. I am just here to remind you that if you keep treating it like a toy it could get taken away.

You can all have your little circus show, if it means it helps keep FlyingHellfish in check so people can have an open discussion in one of the very few open forums left to do so, its A-OK with me.

Reeeeee TS and OG tag team.. watch out young gay lads, the old hairy cunts are coming to your bedroom.

The pair of you should just fucking grow up. Just because FH isn’t into either of you

Since you can't seem to read, let me extend the quote TECSHARE linked for you even further and open your eyes a bit more.  It isn't a conspiracy theory...

"While Flying Hellfish is pretty far left, I am an anarcho-capitalist; I view his political beliefs as ~80% insane. Having two diametrically opposed viewpoints here is a good combination which will hopefully prevent the formation of an echo chamber for one viewpoint or another."

You are doing a fine job of keeping people from accusing theymos of running a forum biased towards his own political beliefs.  That is all.  As a mod you are fucking terrible.

Sigh.   Get a notepad or something...

You are selectively enforcing the feedback guidelines.  If you don't like someone, you'll complain about their abuse of the feedback system.

But you are free to use feedback as a personal forum.

Stop being a hypocrite and practice what you preach bozo.

This is a thread about Flying Hellfish, and my thread regarding him here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5103785.msg49486640#msg49486640). None of what you are raving about is on topic.

Says right in the title - SELECTIVE ENFORCEMENT.   Why are you complaining about something you do regularly?

Either feedback should be based on personal issues, or it shouldn't.    Choose one.

This still has nothing to do with the op. Also I am not a moderator, and the OP is in regards to selective enforcement of moderator powers. Your ranting and raving is 100% off topic.

So what does FH's decision to delete his thread ? have to do with his ability to act as a moderator? Nothing. Like most things you complain about, its nothing stacked on top of nothing, with an extra side heap of nothing. You just felt like flinging some shit in his direction from the comfort of your locked thread (about censorship, lol). So don't be surprised when others do the same to you.

Seems like the only people who have problems with FH are TS and OG. Everyone else seems to think he is doing a fine enough job. Oh, except for the occasional self-imploding lunatics like bitunlocker, I suppose.

You know Techy, you, Trump and OG should learn more/different numbers.   lol

I'd say I'm about 64.6% on topic.  You do selective enforcement based on your like or dislike of the person.   SELECTIVE ENFORCEMENT is in the title....

Yes, what would a deleted thread have to do with moderator powers, or any of the other listed abuses of moderator powers in the thread have to do with moderation? Clearly nothing because you declare is as such. Thanks for admitting this thread is all about retribution against me and has nothing to so with the OP. Don't forget your clown horn little boy.

Ts.. how are your hormone levels? I seriously believe you and OG are both suffering from low testosterone, your actions on this forum are proof that you are inadequate as a male.

You didn't mention that FH was the author of the thread in question. Since its something that can be done by anyone who creates their own thread in P&S, deletion of the thread clearly has nothing to do with FH's moderator powers.


LOL. When did I say any of that? I just thought it was lame that you didn't mention the fact that it was FH's own thread in question. I still do.

And here we are full circle.

What does FH deleting his own thread, as anybody can delete their own thread, have to do with his "moderator powers"?

Because regular users see this when they press the delete button on the thread OP in Politics & Society.

https://i.imgur.com/cLkSvcz.png

Regular users can not just make their thread disappear, even if it is self moderated. They could perhaps manually delete everything then leave a basically empty op, but that is not what happened, the thread is gone completely (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5065043.0).

I've never tried to delete a thread from P&S, so I will happily admit I didn't know that. However, FH said he didn't delete the thread, yet your post still insinuates that he did. You were corrected and you didn't change your statement. What's worse is it is open to interpretation that he deleted somebody else's thread because you didn't state it he opened it.

It's pretty obvious what your end goal is, and I still think its lame, which is why I'm glad to have opened this REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE thread to give him a chance to explain himself and counter your misinformation.

It is pretty obvious you are willing to attribute whatever motives you like to me regardless of what I say. Again, I posed a question, I didn't make a statement. Now asking a question you don't approve of is not allowed? Perhaps you would like to go full circle on that subject?

OK, well you've been provided with the answer to your question, and you still leave it lingering like it is unresolved. I know the plan is to besmirch Flying Hellfish but you're really just doing it to yourself.

Besmirch? What are you a Victorian house maid chaperoning your charge? What is lingering unresolved exactly? I am not removing or editing my question from my thread. How much more resolution would you like?

According to your thread, your question.


Even though you got an answer?


You to do the right thing I suppose. But I know that you never will because your ego won't let you. That's what's entertaining about the whole thing, and why you are consistently the downfall of yourself. You demonstrate an utter lack of humility. There's got to be an ICD-9 code for that kind of behavior.

I wasn't aware we are supposed to go back and revise post history on command upon the first complaint of anal inflammation. You and your fellow clown car inhabitants are welcome to your opinions on what the "right thing" is. I am not obligated to share it.

BTW, ICD-9, what is this 1998? I found your ICD designation in the current standard - ICD-10: N52.9.

Bullshit as usual. Everybody knows that TMAN was born in 1881.

If you are going to try to look cool by using reference material above your pay grade, at least find the right book. See everyone? This is about my politics, not about Flying Hellfish.

Just popping by for this sentence. Not going to swim in all the previous crap as discussing with TECSHARE is like discussing with a 3 years old child, after a moment you should understand he has no ability for logic and thus you can't discuss with him as he'll change the rules of debate as he sees fit.

So just wanted to say that P&S is certainly the most difficult section to moderate as it contains only 3% facts and 97% of beliefs and opinions mostly on sensible subjects. I've found FH to be fairly consistent in his moderation policy: you're off topic you get deleted, you're in topic you don't get deleted. As simple as that.

I've seen about a dozen of posts of mine deleted mainly when I tried to discuss against TECHSARE and to explain things to him because even if cries like a little bitch against censorship he's not the last to report a post to get it deleted. And I'm 10000 times politically closer to FH. So no his "censorship" is not selective.

Even though I'm sure he appreciates more deleting a stupid "white men are victims shut up snowflakes" post than a post trying to explain the difference between communism and dictatorship.

Amazing, I didn't think you could fit any more clowns in that clown car. Here to take retribution after I called out your pathetic attempt at using a sock m0gliE (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5129682.msg52035568#msg52035568)? This just a pathetic collection of children that feel they need revenge for making them feel stupid because they can't effectively argue their beliefs, so they desperately need to prevent their opponents from speaking by any means possible. Sorry little girls, emotion is not equivalent to logic.

Amazing how you say "call out" when you just said something without the begining of a proof but for you it's ok you've proven your point xD

I'm just here to defend FH moderation policies. Seems logical to me that if 2 dickheads are attacking someone publicly, someone can come to defend this person publicly.

Of course you would approve of his moderation, he is a self proclaimed Communist like you, and he covers for those he agrees with. This is all documented in my OP (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5103785.msg49486640#msg49486640), speaking of proof.

He covers me by deleting my posts when they're off topic? Oo

Just because he occasionally does his job doesn't mean he also doesn't selectively enforce. Now if he did this EVERY time that would be quite obvious now wouldn't it? Also the fact is your posts are mostly composed of shit anyway as we can see here.

TS what’s your real problem with FH? Did he fuck your mum or something? This total obsession is worrying, honestly human to human this is worrying, you come across as straight but I’m concerned there are some underlying issues here, perhaps your estrogen levels are high..or you are a closet. Whatever it is it’s not healthy son.

Your coming across as a fucking dry lunch, you do get that don’t you?

It would be quite obviously ridiculous if a moderator deleted EVERY post that you report.

Maybe you should ask theymos to create a nutjob board and appoint you as its moderator.

Not what I said. I have no responsibility to defend retarded claims you make on my behalf as if I actually said them.

So you're reporting some posts that you think shouldn't be deleted? Wasting moderator's time?

Because the other meaning of your statement would be that the forum is conspiring to silence you, despite your ability to create any number of self-modded threads and post any shit you want. You can't be that dumb, can you?

Yes, keep pretending as if your dumb semantic game where you speak for me worked and keep doubling down. It is a good look for you talking to yourself.

More complaining about censorship from a locked thread by TECSHARE. This time he thinks there isn't enough censorship, however.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5103785.msg52922104#msg52922104

He is basically complaining about my posts being off-topic in my own thread. I made the thread, I get to decide what its about -- he doesn't. Pretty ironic that this is coming from a guy who considers himself to be such an astute champion of free speech. He could just move on, but instead he would rather post about how unfair the rules are in his Meta LiveJournal.

It's quite amusing how he thought that his post about him being not concerned is on topic but my post isn't. That is, unless he reported his own post too but forgot to list that fact in his REEE thread.

To be fair though, I wouldn't have been shocked if a bunch of those memes ended up deleted but such action would inevitably include his "no u" meme and that would cause another whinestorm. I don't think a viable strategy exists for mods to handle TECSHARE's complaints to his satisfaction.

That is clearly false. We have had posts of our own deleted from our own threads. (wrongly in our own case ). Sometimes as a direct response to questions or accusations that are left there that are clearly more off topic.

However, of course you can go off topic in your own thread if they hold you to the rules as theymos has explained them. Every post should be relevant directly to the OP at least in some part of your post if not the majority of it.

So yes you can certainly be off topic in your own thread if they want to claim you are.

I would say the only context you can not be off topic at all if is they allow your thread to be derailed even after you report the offending posts and you just go with the new permitted flow the mods are permitting even after you complain.  Then to moderate it would be clear moderator abuse.

I would say in most cases the thread starter should be allowed some free reign but to let it go to extremes would of course waste other contributors effort and time addressing the original point if you were to then just veer off on a totally unrelated tangent.

Permitted flow is complex and needs to really be thrashed out and detailed guidelines brought in.

The mods really (although sometimes taking the piss imho) are left to guess what is and what is not permitted flow, so really there will be some variance in decisions taken. We do have some small sympathy for getting moderation 100% spot on because that is at this time impossible.

Sorry Nutilduhhh, but you can in fact be off topic in your own threads. Just because you started it doesn't mean you now dictate the rules. You are still required to maintain the discussion on the topic of the OP.

As far as Suchgoon, my reply was a direct reply about the previous comment, reaffirming that I made a logical argument including sources, which is very much on topic. Your little circle jerk snipe fest directed at me was not. Also as predicted Flying Hellfish would near instantly delete these types of comments if directed toward his left leaning friends, but since it is me they perpetually remain "unhandled".

Or perhaps FHF was off that day, or deferred the decision to other mods because you're crying about his every move. So many possibilities but it must be a conspiracy.

Well its been what like 4 days? If he is taking that much time off maybe he should resign. Side note, I just checked and they were all marked bad. Funny how that works he ignores it until called out then pretends they were invalid.

Take it up with Theymos?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=14356.msg194511#msg194511

You very clearly took the topic seriously previously, but then when you ran out of arguments want to pretend it is all a joke to justify being totally off topic. As usual, rules don't count for you, just for when you can use them as a cudgel against others. You and your pal beating each other off is not on topic.

So which option did you vote for? Lizard people?

Regardless of how much you want to pretend the whole thread was a joke, your personally directed circle jerk is still not on topic. Also if you are saying it was all a joke, it belongs in Off Topic, not Politics and Society. Either way you are off topic.

Sure I can elaborate with an example.

http://web.archive.org/web/20190704162438/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1622642.0



Rules are only a tool for you to apply to every one else, not for you to follow.

While I am sure you would love it if we could just talk about you for hours, that is off topic. All some one has to do is look at your post history for plenty of examples. Plenty of people totally lose their reputations for doing exactly what you did and condemned others for, but you get the special rules because you fondle all the right balls. Nothing is ever a rule here, that is part of the problem. It is only a rule when people want it to be a rule, and when they don't want it to be a rule there is always some excuse why it doesn't apply to their buddy or some one who agrees with you. Again, this kind of system is what breeds chaos, conflict, and lack of respect for authority.

Okay, so I just as I suspected. You actually have nothing to back up your claims.

How can I be the recipient of special rules if, as you just mentioned, the rules don't exist? Stop being cryptic and dancing around the issue. If you had something specific in mind, then say it.

If the rules don't exist, what are you making such a big deal out of? You're not really saying anything anymore. Its clear that you're pretty upset over not having non-rules enforced to your liking. Other than that, I have no idea what you're getting at.

I did back up my claims, you just imagine I didn't because it serves you. I am not dancing around anything, rules are selectively enforced. You pretend to be confused all you like, what I said makes perfect sense no matter how much you want to pretend it doesn't. Remind me again, speaking of being upset, why is it all of this bothers you so much if it is so completely baseless and based in nonsense? Oh right, that is just you making a pathetic attempt at marginalizing points you can't argue against as usual.

Its hard to argue against points that are based on delusions. I can provide rational counterarguments all day long but you are so caught up in the paranoid delusion that the entire forum is against you there is no way I could get you to actually consider them.

You said this:


What rule isn't counting for me, and how do I use it as a cudgel against others? There is no rule against account sales, so you'll have to pursue a different avenue if you want to prove your point.

LOL there is no rule against account sales but your pal lauda is now starting to flag everyone he "SUSPECTS" may have sold their account or bought an account.  You were screaming you were going to make every account seller/buyer a pariah because they are facilitating scams....... bbut then you decided to sell your own for 0.3BTC ( then try to delete your history).

NOT AGAINST THE RULES YOU SAY NOW hahahaha

I see no rational countering from you. I see no delusions on TS part since he is merely presenting observable instances that can be seen as the rules being enforced selectively. Although they are certainly not the BEST nor strongest examples of selective enforcement that have taken place here recently.

I see NO RESPONSE from ANY mods over why posts that merely blurt out  " who made this cunt bleed" or " shut up you used tampon"  are marked as bad?? WHY NOT? because that scumbag mod that marks them bad and then goes and later gives merit to that kind of shit is a coward and will never dare to face me in open debate because he would be crushed and destroyed in public. So hides away meriting rule breaking posts full of bogus accusations that we debunk instantly.

You are not a rational person nutildah. You are seen screaming all over the place that account selling facilitates scamming and you are going to start your own thread to make account sellers pariahs  THEN go and offer your account for sale for 0.3 BTC.  Then do not have any clue at all why you are seen as untrustworthy or as a willing scam facilitator??  How can such a diseased mind be permitted  to even use the word rational.

Now mr willing scam facilitator how many MODS are including YOU on DT in light of this knowledge I wonder??  I wonder if those same moderators are the ones selectively enforcing the rules???

Starts to look really bad really quickly to any objective observer.

The entire forum isn't against me, just a small group of very vocal people such as yourself who make a habit of obsessively following me around and commenting on everything I do and say. Technically there are no official rules here period, so you could literally make that argument about any "rule" here, because there are no official rules or terms of service posted anywhere on the forum. That is my point. The rules are applied selectively, and some people are held to the letter of the unwritten law, and some people (like you) get endless excuses made for why there should be an exception made for their malfeasance because you polish the balls of anyone with any ability to do anything about it.

The entire trust system has turned into one giant protection racket. You sure worked hard to build that reputation in this sea of fraud, it would be a shame of some one were to burn it down using a system that provides you no due process wouldn't it. You'd better agree with us and do what we want you to, or we can't be responsible for what happens to your reputation. You dutifully got down on both knees and proceeded to give those balls presented to you a good lathering, and now you get to enjoy the upside of a duel tiered system.

Trying to get a mod to delete those posts in the impeachment thread wasn't cool - I don't think suchmoon or nutil were out of line at all considering the general tone of the thread.

How often do you report posts like that?

You gotta admit, it's kind of funny going back and reading this post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5191667.msg52864455#msg52864455) and the following like 10 or so responses knowing that you were actually pissed off enough to try and get a mod to delete suchmoons and nutils posts.  

You do realize that you're posting in a thread started by nutildah, and complaining about your unhappy participation in another thread created by nutildah?

Of course you don't. In your delusional narcissistic universe evil stalker nutildah is creating these threads to trap you and that uncontrollable urge to fight him is also totally nutildah's fault.

Hey look some one else who really doesn't like my political views that doesn't know how to separate their emotions from facts. I report off topic posts. I don't report posts just because they disagree with me or whatever you are trying to insinuate. Posting literally nothing but personal attacks is not on topic regardless of what you think the "tone" was, and posts like this going in the other direction are regularly and promptly removed.


Who said I was unhappy to participate in any of this? Trap me in what exactly? I am sure you all stand around and stroke each other off over how much you "got me" with these kind of behaviors, but I can assure you I am getting what I want out of this interaction even if you are incapable of realizing how or why. Regale me some more with your tales of pwnage, just don't forget to spit first, you don't want to get rashes from jerking each other off too vigorously.

If you're happy will all that then you should probably stop wasting moderator's time with the frivolous reports. You may also want to disclose your fetish when you make these public complaints because for sane people "a small group of  very vocal people [...] who make a habit of obsessively following me around" may sound like a negative.

Remind me again what my personal satisfaction has to do with other people following the rules? I know you are trying to equate the two, but it is just not making any sense. I get great joy from exposing these types of behaviors. Even if it means obsessive control freaks like you and your buddies feel the need to constantly inject yourself into every action I take, or word I speak at any opportunity in a desperate effort to try to manufacture your preferred narrative around me, and send a clear message to anyone else who might think of not swearing fealty to your protection racket, I am still achieving my goal.

I for one wouldn't dare to deprive you of this great joy so I'll continue to ridicule your total lack of self-awareness every time I get a chance. I hope nutildah will keep creating threads that inject themselves into your actions and I'll make sure to read the dictionary tonight to find out what kind of crime a "narrative" is so that I could do that part as well. No effort shall be spared for such noble goals.

I hope Nancy and Chuck are there too. Need to make sure that peach mint thing causes maximum irritation joy for our friend. Maybe they can send him an honorary sub-peanut to make him feel important.

This is a problem with having a single moderator with extremist views as a moderator of a political sub. This situation is nearly guaranteed to result in moderation that very heavily one viewpoint. Rules will either be very one sided, or will go unenforced for one viewpoint when they are strictly enforced for another.

Many polls are run by one left leaning pollster and one right leaning pollster to prevent the result from being skewed to benefit one side.

The obvious solution is to either find a moderator with more moderate views, or to find a second moderator with right leaning viewpoints who can help shift the moderation towards the middle/balanced.

Well Quickseller, you might have a point, but nobody really has a problem with FH besides you and TS. In case you hadn't noticed, TS is unhappy with all the moderators (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5196719.0). So I don't think its a FH problem.


That reminds me: we are having George Soros do an AMA there next week. Don't forget to stop by!

Not total lack of awareness, lack of giving a fuck if you or anyone else approves. You and your pal Nutillduuuh have trouble separating your emotions and opinions from facts as demonstrated quite clearly by your obsessive reply chain here repeatedly addressing politics in the Meta section. It is almost like you can barely restrain yourself.

It's a thread about you, FHF, and P&S. Would be weird if we were addressing Ethereum hard fork and Halle Berry but hey, you're the on-topicness expert around here so just tell us what we're allowed to talk about.

Where is the part that is relevant to the conversation other than your claims of a tangential relationship? Oh right, there is none, you all are just frothing at the mouth for any opportunity to smite me for daring to have views you don't approve of, and thus you can't even manage to have a conversation about forum policy without injecting politics into it.

Didn't you call some users "communists" earlier in the thread? I look forward to you twisting it into totally not a political thing.

For the record, I fully approve you being a conspiracy nutjob and I don't have any intent to smite you - I'm sorry if it comes across that way.

I absolutely did (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5173424.msg52225917#msg52225917), once, in the context of it being totally irrelevant to the conversation. Nice try at spin there. I don't much care what you say your intent is, your inability to separate politics from forum policy discussion does all the talking for you.

https://i.imgflip.com/3f0m71.jpg (https://i.imgflip.com/3f0m71.jpg)

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How could you... report yourself for being off topic.

Oh jeeze, you caught me, I should have searched through the entire thread with a fine tooth comb like you did. Clearly that was a lie that I never expected anyone could have caught me in seeing as it is all a public thread an everything. Should we count how many references to my politics you, Nutilduhh, and Twitchyseal have made)? Regardless the difference between your posts and mine is it was relevant to the reasons why his moderation was bias. Your posts... are just your inability to restrain yourself from bringing politics into it for no other reason than the fact that I have ideas that you don't approve of enrages you to the point you can't separate forum policy from your emotions about your political beliefs and has no relevance to the topic.

First of all, you're arguing with yourself. I never said that politics should be banned from this thread. It's impossible to discuss the topic without referring to what an utter conspiracy nutjob and a rancid troll you are, which is one of the challenges FHF is facing on that board.

But even according to your own made-up "no politics" rule, it turns out that it's ok for you to bring up politics, once because of irrelevance, and once more because of relevance. So why don't you dispense with the facade and tell us how you really feel. Do we need a conspiracy sub-board in P&S, and appoint your buddy Quickseller as a mod? That should take care of most of the issues there I think.

I never said politics should be banned from this thread either. I pointed out that you and your circular jerk pals can not restrain yourself from puking out your pathological aversion to my political views long enough to have a discussion about forum policy. I brought up Flying Hellfish's views only in the context that it effects his bias as a moderator. Your bringing up my views over an over again is only a factor of your inability to control your revulsion with people having opinions you don't agree with and it has no relevance to the thread.

You're lying and projecting as usual. I don't have a problem with disagreements, in fact debate is an essential part of a forum like this. Unfortunately anyone disagreeing with you automatically becomes a "communist" and subject to sprawling conspiracy theories. Whether you truly believe that bullshit or just use it as an excuse for trolling (real or pretend "views") it's fully relevant to your constant whining about forum rules and moderation. As evidenced by this topic and the made-up story about FHF deleting his own thread.

What exactly am I lying about? Please quote. You are pulling the classic Vod technique of accusing me of lying but never being able to quote this supposed lie. Of course to you, anything you don't agree with is a lie, because only you know the truth right?

The problem is your comments are just like many of the constant other examples of people who have disagreements with me in Politics & Society. Often they are the very same ones that let that emotion bleed into general forum conduct and abuse the various systems in anyway possible to play sad little games for having the audacity of not agreeing. I doubt that some of you can even separate the two issues. I don't care who is a Communist, as long as the Communist is treated the same as I am according to forum rules and policy. I have found many times that is not the case. I don't care if people disagree with me (clearly), what I care about is people taking that ill will from having open discussions on controversial subjects and abusing the forum's systems to "fight" ideas they don't like in another way.

That's hilarious. When's the last time you were civil to a "communist"? You care very deeply if people disagree with you to the point where you have to insult them over their beliefs if they don't align with yours. That's the problem. You can't just let a disagreement slide. TwitchySeal, for instance, has been extremely civil toward you and humble in his approach to dealing with you, and you in turn have been a massive dick.

You demand that not only the forum be perfect but be perfectly accorded with your vision of how the universe works. Well, hate to break it to you, but that's never gonna happen.

Who said anything about being civil? What does being "civil" mean? You get to define this of course. Again, thanks for making a great example of users not being able to separate their personal feelings from general forum conduct. I am not demanding anything, certainly not perfection. All I am doing is documenting publicly these interactions for review. You would be surprised how often the "universe" reacts some times to mere words alone.

I did.


Utter tosh. What exactly am I abusing?

I think it's possible that he either A) Doesn't realize how aggressive (often passive aggressive) his posts are perceived by most or, more likely, B) Perceives any post that challenge something he said as a direct attack on his intelligence and/or honor.  He seems to consider his own opinions facts. Therefore other peoples opinions must be 'wrong', and he must prove them wrong, otherwise it will appear that he is wrong.

Or he might be just a troll I guess.  But I think B or A is much more likely. 

Gonna go prepare myself mentally now for all the mean things that are about to be said about me.

Yep, classic Vod technique. Keep making claims that I lied then never quoting it or even specifying what the lie was. You are abusing anything you can get your hands on.



How exactly does that make logical sense? If I cared that people disagreed with me I would act like you and tell the default trust list to line up so I can wash their balls for them. I am saying what I say at the expense of people like you following me around everywhere else on the forum because you can't handle that I "was a dick to you" in Politics and Society. Your disagreement isn't the problem, its your inability to isolate it from the rest of the forum's functions. Speaking of forum policy and enforcement, seems to me mods deleting posts falls firmly under that description.



Are you 12 years old? Are you chained to your keyboard? Does your mommy whip you and force you to interact with me on Politics and Society? No? I would have to conclude then if you don't like interacting with me in Politics and Society, the fact that you engage me is your own fault. I can't wipe those crocodile tears for you. Maybe some one else will.

Fair enough. I think I should allow the possibility that you're dumb enough to be unable to read the quote in the post you were replying to. It's also possible that you genuinely believe the shit you make up so I will refrain from calling it "lies", I'll just call you a moron instead.

For example your assertion "You are abusing anything you can get your hands on" is totally not a lie, you're just being a moron.

Going to the bathroom would suck.

Given that my hands are usually on a keyboard when I'm trolling making valuable and insightful posts on this glorious forum, it must be the poor old Corsair K65 bearing the brunt of my abuse. To be fair, it's been waterboarded in various drinks over the years so TECSHARE might be on to something here.

Yeah, she's a tough little item, isn't she? She sure can take a pounding. Oh, that reminds me, I've got a party to plan in the foxhole. Excuse me. ;)

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You just quoting a whole paragraph isn't identifying anything. The whole paragraph is a lie? I found your lies too, going back years. They are all here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=234771;sa=showPosts). If you can't read your lies you are dumb. See what I did there?


You sure like to tell me what I think and feel a lot don't you? You should be working for Mrs. Cleo, not wasting those fine psychic abilities here. So now me being wrong = me being a dick? I Thought I was bad because I was a dick, now I am not allowed to be wrong either, and you get to decide what is right or wrong do you?

Mods deleting posts also falls well within forum policy and enforcement. Your butthurt ramblings over some one not sharing your political views do not.

No, I don't see what you did. Probably because I'm dumb or maybe you forgot to turn the webcam on.

Come on, sparky. If you don't know (or pretend to not know) which parts of that paragraph you made up then what difference is it going to make if I quote or highlight it in some way? You'll just find a 100 new reasons why your fantasies are facts.

Just take the win. I concede that technically you're not lying when you make shit up. I apologize for calling it a lie. Friends?

I'm still using an IBM model M with a PS2 port on back.
You can have it when you pry it from my carpal tunnel bent fingers.

Nothing to really add to the rest of the rest of the post but figured I would chime in with the discussion of indestructible keyboards.

-Dave

Typical TECHSHARE.  Makes claims against others without providing evidence.

Proof in quote above.  :)

I documented your pattern of lies and abuse over years very well here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=915823.0). You will also notice your inability to do the same.

Classic TECHSHARE.  Explaining how he always provides proof, without any proof.   8)

If that’s not the pot calling the kettle black, I don’t know what is.

No, you're obviously allowed to be a dick as much as you are wrong. Just as I am allowed to tell you you're being a dick, and that you are wrong, which is often. They are two separate things. You do have a propensity to be a dick while you are being a wrong, but that is just an overlap of statistical likelihood and not the result of a causative effect.

Hey look, it's the guy who told everyone Game-Protect and I were the same person as if he knew it for a fact, calling someone out for calling out someone else for making shit up about other people.

So then, what exactly does any of this have to do with enforcing forum policy or the topic whatsoever?

You asked me a question and I answered it.

Cool story bro. Thanks for the demonstration of your inability to separate the two issues.

It makes plenty of sense. If it is not related to the op, then what are you rambling on about other than the fact you don't like what I say? What relevance to the op does this have at all? It is really simple.

OP is about you being a dick and bitching about off topic posts.

In that case it belongs in Reputation or Off Topic. Thanks for arguing my point that none of this belongs here.

You and others spent years defending the Game-Protect account while I called him a scammer.  Talk about horrible judgement.  I did get a laugh out of seeing how long it took you and your window licking crew to get up to speed.  I look forward to 5 years from now when you same morons start complaining about Vod's behavior. 

Addressing the topic at hand...  It's pretty clear Flying Hellfish is a snowflake and moderates as such.  I don't think the powers that be really care, so long as he deletes spam.

I didn't defend him much, and neither did anyone else, but yeah It was horrible judgment to not realize he was a scammer sooner.  It was an honest error in judgement. 

I won't be here in five years.  Can you rewrite your story for 18 months?

Can't post a quote because TECSHARE posted this in a locked topic; evidently he is afraid of debate:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5103785.msg53770829#msg53770829

Its hard to imagine he doesn't see the difference between just posting a meme without contributing to the discussion and a meme posted with conversation relevant to the discussion.

- If you just post a meme (especially and off-topic one), you can expect it to be deleted as off-topic.
- If you post a meme along with something relevant to the topic, you can expect it won't be deleted.

Pretty simple, really. If TOAA can figure it out, I would think TS can as well.

It's also hard to imagine that TS never reported just memes as being off-topic. Rules for theee but not for heee I suppose.

Hopefully he takes solace in the fact that I am done posting in P&S -- its an absolute waste of time. Not that this is much better.

Don't tell him that FHF is not a moderator in Meta (where Twitchy posted his gif), that'd spoil his day.

You being an advocate of modern day book burning and censorship was very much on topic in a thread talking about a news outlet being censored. Twitchy seals little display of butthurt serves what purpose exactly? Just about as much as yours here.


Yep, because everyone knows two separate mods can't abuse their authority simultaneously don't you know?

The thread isn't about censorship, its about the coronavirus. Your characterization of me being Nazi Cartman is even further off-topic. You find a way to make every action you don't agree with about censorship, even to the point of unironically opening a locked thread about it. Then when you can't censor something you disagree with, you call it "selective enforcement of the rules."

Let me help you understand the difference:

Subject: Coronavirus Outbreak
"[imagines this entire tirade with a German accent and burning books in the background]" + meme = off-topic

Subject: VOD should be removed from default trust for systematic abuse of his position
"TECSHARE has been getting abused for over 5 years now and you all are just turning your backs to look busy doing other things! I hope this puppy gif makes you feel better, TECSHARE." + meme = on-topic

I hope that clears things up.

BTW, you should actually thank twitchy for offering his concern for your welfare.

It's possible that multiple mods have conspired against you but the title of your thread is "FLYING HELLFISH - SELECTIVE ENFORCEMENT AND CENSORSHIP". You're unable to stay on topic even in your locked thread bitching about your off topic posts being deleted - that's a bit funny. Well, not for you of course. I'm sure you're doing this in the most serious non-ironic way.

Yes, censorship for reporting on the Corona virus, very much on topic.

My thread is locked because it would be this thread instead of my thread. You all get to gave your little mutual reassurance circle, and I get to have a public log of moderator actions taken. It seems pretty clear who has issues with public discussions here. Can any of you explain the point of this thread?

I was wondering what the problem is this time, and though I haven't read any of the posts involved, or the threads since I don't visit P&S or Off-Topic, I would imagine this is exactly why TECSHARE's posts got reported and/or deleted by Flying Hellfish.  He does have a tendency to get extremely defensive, which leads him to go way off topic.

I doubt this has anything to do with discussion about the corona virus outbreak, because that's a valid subject of discussion and I've even seen it in the Economics section not once but multiple times, and frankly I didn't think threads dealing with it belonged in that section.

TECSHARE, I don't know if Flying Hellfish has anything against you or not, but if you've got a history of getting your posts reported to him, and those reports are valid and result in deletion, no doubt he's probably got his eye on you as a member who frequently goes off topic or resorts to personal attacks or whatever.  That would be true of you or anyone else in the same situation, and I don't think he's got it out for you--but I can't see inside his mind, so I can't be sure.

Jerking your chain cause it's entertaining to watch you respond? It's a thought. The two of you should just get a room though.

P&S can be a cesspool sometimes and I think people are better off self moderating any threads they post if there is a fear that the discussion will be shifted away from the topic at hand. I see this being the case with any Trump impeachment related threads where civility lacks. Relying on FH won't be necessary with self moderated threads where I'm assuming he'd defer to the author of the topic to remove any replies they deems unnecessary.

Your accusation I am reporting your posts in incorrect.  I have not reported a single one of your posts in the last few days.  I wish they would stay up as proof of your mental illness.

People other than I are starting to notice your trust abuse Techy.  Continuing to blame everything on me, while it makes you feel superior, simply lets the real heroes go without credit.  :(

Its to counter your one-sided presentation of the issues you find to be a "problem." You've locked your thread out of fear of debate, so I opened one free of censorship, where a debate can be had.

I am struggling to see what your little circle jerk collective about me has anything to do with meta, but you all feel free to masturbate in public if you think its necessary. I locked my thread because it wouldn't be a log of moderator activities if I didn't, it would be you chimps shitting all over it topic sliding and making it impossible to see. You are free to have your debate, just not in my thread. My thread is not a discussion it is a log.

You are both fans of preventing people you don't like from joining in your political discussions, some how you find self moderation improper regarding forum activities. You would of course play the role of the censored to distract from your own obsessive censorship. What kind of loser needs a self moderated thread in Politics & Society anyway? One who has no argument. By the way, if my locked post is so wrong, why don't you trust it to be known as wrong in its own right? Why do you feel it needs to be "countered?" Sounds to me like you all just like a good excuse to set up a circus tent.

This thread is to discuss another thread in meta, which is locked by OP.

This conversation has veered off-topic quite a bit, so let's try to bring it back on-topic. Since you locked your thread, I can't offer an opposing viewpoint to your statement there, so I offered it here. You proceeded to wholly ignore the points I made about why your post was deleted when twitchy's was not, instead choosing to continue your personal attacks, which is your go-to move in lieu of having an actual counterargument.

BTW, my Trump memes thread isn't a discussion its a log of Trump memes.

Yes, wouldn't want to get diverted from your circle jerk right? In that case, this thread belongs in Reputation and your "log of Trump memes" belongs in Off Topic, not in a section made for political discussion.

Again, your reply is wholly off-topic and ignores relevant on-topic points which this thread serves to address. You can report this thread and the other one if you'd like to see if the mods agree with your form of censorship. If they don't, you can always include their inaction in one of your several threads addressing your problems with them.

I am not sure if you could possibly fit any more projection in to that statement.

I disagree.

Memes are an interesting way to have a discussion and aren't against the rules. 
In fact, in the Politics & Society Introduction and Rules - READ BEFORE POSTING (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3357782.msg35165306#msg35165306) thread it says:



The memes you post that get deleted by mods is bc the memes are off topic, not because they are memes.

https://i.gyazo.com/948d290eaee937f353b7b88f308e5a51.png

Is it a log of memes or a discussion? You two work out your bullshit story among yourselves and try again.

You're continuing to focus on matters that are wholly irrelevant to this thread. The meme you are whinging about wasn't deleted from my meme log. It was, however, off-topic.

The reason why it was off-topic has already been explained to you, and you haven't rebutted the explanation. I don't understand why you insist on veering this discussion off-topic.

As I expected, you would like to keep the meaning of this thread amorphous as possible. Harder to keep your story straight later if you commit to one now isn't it Nutilduhh?

TECSHARE, have you entertained the possibility that the reason you have so many posts deleted (I see 8 recently, that's a lot) is not because the mods are out to get you, but rather because in their opinion you are consistently making off topic/troll posts?

I bet if you started checking the OP and asking yourself 'am I actually contributing anything to this topic right now?' before clicking 'Post', you'll have much less to complain about.

The meaning of this thread is incredibly straight-forward and self-evident, as well as provided in the title. That part has never changed, nor has the meaning.

Of course "the meaning of the thread" is to discuss whether there is any merit to your claims of SELECTIVE ENFORCEMENT AND CENSORSHIP in FH's moderation. You won't allow for debate in your thread, which is why this one exists.

Anything else I can help you understand?

Yes, why is your thread about me in Meta and not in the Reputation section where it belongs?

Because its not about you -- its about whether or not SELECTIVE ENFORCEMENT AND CENSORSHIP by FH is taking place, which is clearly a discussion that belongs in Meta.

For a thread not about me... you didn't wait very long obsessing over me.

"Since TECSHARE..."

Sure looks like it belongs in META to me! Just remember kids to not masturbate too obsessively, or you will chaff your dicks circle jerking.

I never stopped you from having a conversation. I am here. Let's converse.

No, not really. See! We are conversing.

Great, well I'm glad we got to the bottom of that.

I'm leaving this thread open in case anyone else has anything to add.

I had a free topic deleted by FH in P&S, about crime.

It's OK though, cause Techy recognized it was about his threat and quoted it in his trust abuse thread - page 31.  I am the bigger man there and let him have the last word. 

I also received the answer in PM, so I am satisfied.

Although I don't like having a fresh topic deleted, I can understand the reasoning behind it.  I thank FH for his non-biased moderation and the difficult job he must have to not take sides.

That is a interesting excuse to not substantiate any of your accusations Vod, also very off topic.

I would also like to thank FH for his non-biased moderation and the difficult job he must have to not take sides.

For the record,

As with most of the claims in the locked thread about me this is not my doing (this being the latest as of this post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5103785.msg53786636#msg53786636 )

The deleted post by TS was in a self mod'd thread, it wasn't deleted by me.  I rarely (if ever) moderate a self mod'd thread.  By definition a self mod'd thread allows the OP to decided what is on or off topic.

Of course as usual TS isn't interested in facts, context or any kind of discussion that doesn't agree with his insane conspiracy theories.

Another mod or more likely the OP was the one that deleted the post but hey it looks WAY better he puts it in a locked thread about a mod he hates.

Oh well theymos has all the actual facts, I assume he has verified my claims and TS claims and since I haven't had any discussions with him about my alleged abuse I will continue as I have been.

Thanks to all in this thread with the kind words and support.

Funny, usually when people delete posts in a self moderated thread it doesn't say "A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by a Bitcoin Forum moderator."

Funny how that still doesn't mean I did it you stupid fucking cunt.

Feel free to poll all the other mods or theymos to find out who did it.  Feel free to shove a cactus up your ass.  But for someone who thrives on proof you have zero of it that proves I did it.

I'm done responding to your ridiculousness.

Even if you didn't do it, it still very clearly wasn't a self moderated thread. I don't know why you feel the need to make stuff up that is clearly untrue.

Jesus your are fucking stupid.  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5201316.msg53780581#msg53780581
That is the post from your locked fucking thread. It clearly links to a self mod'd thread.

I don't know why you feel the need to make stuff up that is clearly is proven by your own evidence.

I do.   His goal is to disrupt the forum as much as possible.   If his word can't be trusted by default, then no-one's should!

(No one is supporting him in these false accusations.   You're doing a great job!)

He made another thread with the same title as mine + REEEEEE , it could've been deleted from that one if he copied a post from my thread and responded to it in his.  

Of course that doesn't mean it was you who deleted it.  TECSHARE, for someone who thinks speculating or assuming anything is wrong, maybe it's time to stop with all the speculation and assumptions about which moderator decided your post violated a forum rule or is out to get you.

To be fair that is entirely plausible, I wasn't aware of his REEEE thread (and no one would based on the evidence he provided).  Since I didn't delete the post I don't know which thread it was in and in reality everything after that is entirely moot.

Even posts deleted from self moderated threads by the op don't say. "A reply of yours, quoted below, was deleted by a Bitcoin Forum moderator." in the message. Are you accusing me of manufacturing the quotes now?

I think he just overlooked the possibility that you were responding to my post in a thread I didn't post in.

Are you accusing him of lying about deleting your post?  Seems unlikely to me, but this isn't the first time he has explicitly told you that he didn't delete a post from your "FLYING HELLFISH - SELECTIVE ENFORCEMENT AND CENSORSHIP" thread, and you seem to just not care.

If you think he's lying, call him out on it and maybe we can get to the bottom of it.
If you don't think he's lying, then remove the posts he says he didn't delete.
Or do nothing if you don't care if your accusations against FH are accurate or not.

I don't care what he did or says. A moderator deleted those posts, this is a fact as evidenced by the quotes. Him claiming not to have done it in a section he is in charge of and just saying it was "some one else" is not a resolution, even if he thinks it is for him. I have absolutely no way to verify anything he says. Me having a log of these acts harms no one, and the only reason this thread exists is so the usual dingle berries have some ass hair to cling on to and create a circus out of it. Be my guest. Clown away and draw even more attention to it.

You sure complain in a lot of threads for someone who doesn't care.    ;)

The ethical thing to do would be to change the title of the thread to "REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE: BITCOINTALK - SELECTIVE ENFORCEMENT AND CENSORSHIP" or ""REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE: MODS - SELECTIVE ENFORCEMENT AND CENSORSHIP" or something like that instead of singling out a specific moderator who has denied deleting multiple posts you're accusing him of deleting.

Or accuse him of lying.

Thanks for the lecture in ethics. No.

You really think it's ok to blame FH for deleting posts he didn't delete, and use them of evidence that he is an unfair moderator?


Really?  The accusation isn't against 'moderators', it's against FH.  You sure you don't care?

You have no way of knowing for sure what happened any more than I do. You are making conclusions based on your speculation and confirmation bias. I will not comply with any of these demands. You feel free to make your own accusations. My thread will remain, unedited.

My conclusions:

- You created the thread "FLYING HELLFISH - SELECTIVE ENFORCEMENT AND CENSORSHIP"
- FH denied deleting multiple posts that you added to the thread.
- You said "I don't care what he [FH] did or says"

What speculation?

The parts where you conclude what I think, what I believe, and what I intend. Flying Hellfish can say he shits gold. That doesn't make it a fact. The section is under his moderation. If no one wants to take responsibility fine. Until that time, I don't think it is unreasonable to assume it was him in spite of your many highly synthesized protestations.

I don't think that assumption would be unreasonable either, until he tells you explicitly denies it.  Now for your assumption to be true, FH would have to be a liar.

If you think he's a liar, fine.  But to say "I don't care what he did or says", demonstrates that you don't care whether or not your accusations are true or false.

You are the one making the accusation, the burden of proof is on you.

To be more specific, I don't care what you say. What he says is clearly relevant. I never claimed to prove anything. I am making a public log of moderator actions against my posts in the section. None of this changes the fact that only he and Theymos know for sure what happened.

Your actions speak louder than words, and they support what you said the first time. Your public log of moderator actions has only one moderators name on it.  The mod has denied being responsible for multiple entries, you said you didn't care what he said, you said you wouldn't edit it.

With no ability to tell which of his threads are created for logging and which are to make an actual claim, I suggest the community treat all of his threads like entries in a personal diary.

Are you approaching a point any time soon or simply finding an excuse to repeat yourself endlessly in the hopes that if you repeat yourself enough times people will believe your claims.?

Actually, TwitchySeal doesn't have to repeat anything.

First you accused Flying Hellfish that he removed his own topic (which is off topic post btw, I have no idea why that post is not removed by moderators) which he said he didn't and then you accused him of removing another post which he said he didn't. TwitchySeal's suggestions are reasonable and in the middle of your trolling you didn't even realize that you accepted one of TwitchySeal's suggestions:


Well that is actually funny, you said this (reposting from another thread):


So if you are wrong, it cost you nothing to try to burn Flying Hellfish's reputation and get him kicked out of moderation position. Fuck Flying Hellfish, right? That is exactly what you are doing right now.

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Now go and report my post as off topic because you don't like it. Silence me more.

Have you tried asking theymos if you're really so concerned about this alleged abuse and FHF allegedly lying about it? If you haven't (or if you have and FHF is still a moderator) then it's really hard to see your actions as anything other than a smear attempt.

After Flying Hellfish very embarrassingly  was caught moving posts around into unrelated sections to cause drama (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5062023.0) and being caught censoring OGNasty (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5067125.0), I was explicitly directed by Theymos to make a post about any future complaints I have in Meta. This thread is exactly what I meant when I said "This environment is not really conductive to making public complaints.", and why my thread is locked.

Fairly certain if anyone whined repeatedly to Theymos, they would be explicitly directed to post in Meta as well.  Not sure why Techy feels having his PMs ignored is a thing to boast about... :/

Stop pretending that you're interested in what is or is not fair.  All you care about is whether or not someone agrees or disagrees with your actions.

If they agree - all good!
If they disagree, you're the victim, they're the enemy, and you'll do or say whatever you can think of to make them look bad and you look like a victim.

Theymos on TECSHARE:

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TECSHARE on Theymos:

The PM from Theymos was unsolicited and a response to the thread I linked, but feel free to just invent whatever narrative you prefer to proliferate like you always do.

Do you still believe that Theymos tried to extort you after adding a feature to DT 'just for you'?

Tecshare's thread is locked because he doesn't want someone to come there to defend themselves and to say that something in there is not true, and/or he doesn't want someone to agree that posts which are removed are off topic or whatever was the reason of removal.

This topic serves as a proof of that.

So is that post off topic or not? Seems like it is. If it is then off topic reports are being selectively enforced as I stated. I am not you and TwittySeal, all my OPs in Politics & Society remain open to free discussion, unlike his, where he regularly removes substantive on topic posts simply because he disagrees with them, as you do Nutilduhhhh.

This is the game FlyingHellfish plays. I make a post about him ignoring reports, he waits days or weeks, does nothing, or marks it as bad. If he gets called out he can just act after the fact and pretend like he was going to get around to it. Meanwhile he always seems to find the time to nearly instantaneously respond to any reports on posts I make. All one big coincidence I am sure. You and Twittyseal are both free to post in my OPs as much as you like, you are not free to ignore the forum rules and post off topic any more than I am. If I am going to have rules enforced upon me I also expect to have the protection of those same rules. Currently I do not.

Just seems like your problem could easily be resolved by opening a self-modded thread.

My ideas aren't so weak I need to remove opposing points, unlike you and Twittyseal who rely on self moderated threads so that your ideas are never challenged.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5103785.0   ???

We have been over this already Vod, I know you are thirsty to find anything you can to impugn my character, but you are Artax and your bullshit is The Swamps of Sadness. The more you struggle the further into your own bullshit you sink. There is a difference between open political discussion and a log of incidents serving a specific purpose, even if you pretend to not know the difference. Also, unlike them, here I am engaging in an open thread. Anything else before you sink beneath the muck Artax? ARTAX?!!!

Are your ideas so weak you need to remove opposing points?  Or do you rely on self moderated threads so that your ideas are never challenged?

Dude. That's exactly what you are requesting: that an opposing viewpoint be removed. As for the off-topicness of the viewpoint... here's your OP from that thread:


So how is Twitchy's post off-topic? What do you define the topic as?

Its not like you're discussing earth-shaking ideas here.

I don't need to remove anything, because my locked thread is a log, not a discussion. Are my ideas not being challenged here, and am I not engaging those challenges? Try harder Vod.


Ah I see, you get to define the value of my speech now. Of course, that is usually what totalitarian minded people seek to do, be the one to dictate the value of the freedoms of others. What does his post have to do with ANTIFA? Please explain. He didn't attempt to have a discussion or counter anything, he is simply posting off topic in a pathetic "whataboutism" totally unrelated to the topic. He wants to have his own private little walled garden threads where no one is critical of him, then he wants to also come to my threads and be free to post off topic as well.

Request this thread be moved to Reputation.  This is not a meta issue anymore - just projections from a mentally ill stalker.  :/

Yeah, move it to reputation as I originally requested ;)

On point as usual Vod.

Then stop posting I am off topic all the time? 

All the time eh? Quote me saying that once.

No, I'm dropping this - you are trolling now. 

I do appreciate the attempt to be Canadian , eh?   :)

Rather convenient you are always above responding whenever I ask you to substantiate your claims. Seems like a rather distinct pattern of you avoiding substantiating your accusations against me.

It seems rather obviously focused on me, as Vod suggested. Of course as usual you want to enforce the rules to the letter for everyone else but be able to bend and break them yourself.

I made a new post here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5103785.msg53884804#msg53884804

I figured I would save you the time posting in this thread. Discuss.

Topic (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5220206.0) is about coronavirus. This article https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/harvard-university-professor-and-two-chinese-nationals-charged-three-separate-china-related is not about coronavirus.

I won't comment other posts because this already wasted enough of my time, as I can see Flying Hellfish is doing really hard job moderating that board.

I reported a few of these drive-by posts where TECSHARE copies a title of some Youtube video or a blog post and adds a link, nothing else. No summary, no opinion, no content of any significance. Good to see mods taking action on this low-effort low-value link spam.

Actually it is very much related:

"Zaosong Zheng, 30, a Chinese national, was arrested on Dec. 10, 2019, at Boston’s Logan International Airport and charged by criminal complaint with attempting to smuggle 21 vials of biological research to China."



I see, you are the arbiter of what is significant now are you? I am sure it is just a coincidence that pretty much all of those removed posts makes your preferred political party look bad now isn't it? They were all very much related to the op and valid topics of discussion, and were valid sources of information contributing to the discussion. Lets not pretend you reported those posts for any other reason than you hope no one actually reviews them.

Very much this.  I was the one that removed the reported posts.  As Suchmoon points out a "headline" with a simple link and nothing else is not of any value.  They are usually nothing more than a way to get clicks for the site.

As a general rule I very very rarely click external links from BTCT.  Certainly no one should be expected to click a link and go to another site to get the entire post.  No one should have to go to some random shit hole of a website to find out if you're off topic or not.  If you have something to say, say it, if you want to let another site be your entire post find somewhere else to link spam.

I just happen to think that this forum is for discussions, not for copy pasta.


I doubt that your posts can make the Rent Is Too Damn High Party look any worse.


All I hope for is that you'll put a bit more effort in your posts instead of needlessly bumping my watchlist.

This is another perfect example of how this forum allows the letter of the law to be abused to selectively silence speech the mod and the reporters political preferences. Yes yes, I am sure it is all just totally a coincidence that almost every one of those removed posts is contrary to both of your political views. Also, you know those "Justice.gov" links are always full of viruses! I am sure you little goose steppers are comfortable in the knowledge zat ze rules are followed to ze letter, especially when it is information you don't agree with personally. This is just a pathetic pretext for censorship, and a "Permit Patty" type of targeted harassment.

All of the people you dislike seem to make perfect examples.  Is that what bothers you about them - that they can state something without fifty useless words??

FH has stated he didn't delete your posts.  You want us all to lay down while you make up lies about yet another person?

I have Suchgoon on one side of me saying I don't say enough to try to justify censoring and harassing me, and the sad birthday party magician on the other side of me saying I say too much. I know you are losing your mind Vod and it is all so very pathetic people feel sorry for you and allow you to commit felonies here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5136576.msg53860754#msg53860754) and turn a blind eye, but try to at least read the posts before you shit out your mindless attacks.

Suchmoon and I are both correct.   You spew paragraphs of garbage, but you don't really have a point.  I was losing my mind, but I had a tracker installed and I found it.

You didn't start this thread today, did you Techy?   Before this gets deflected (sick fuck!) to me, I will point out again that FH is stating he is not deleting your posts.    

8)

For those that don't speak fluent troll I translated it for you!

TS you're not getting special treatment from me, if your posts don't follow the rules I will delete them as with any other user who's posts don't follow the rules.

At this point, I don't see how it is related to topic about coronavirus:

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I wasn't aware this is against forum rules  :-\

Oh but I am, the special communist censor treatment. The theme of the removed posts is pretty obvious, as is your pattern of behavior of censorship regardless of how many leftist toadies and clowns you have here stroking you off to serve their own ulterior motives. I noticed you finally removed the off topic post I reported that you refused to act on for several weeks... did some one get a talking to for abusing their authority? Is that why you felt the compulsion to remove the very on topic link about another ANTIFA attack in a thread about ANTIFA?

One more thing, explain to me please why this post was removed:


I am clearly on topic and simply offering some helpful advice to the OP that I think he could benefit from. What is the issue here besides your compulsion to interfere with my ability to use that subforum as much as your pretext of moderation allows you?

Has Theymos added the ability to see who removes posts, or are you just lying again?  :/

Speaking about The Coronavirus Outbreak thread, can some one explain to me the on topic part of this post reported for being off topic that was marked bad?

I actually removed the post you reported because it was in the Q when I handled the rest of the reports and I agreed with the report!  I know this isn't something you consider but it is reality!



If some one got a talking to about abuse of authority it wasn't me!  I am not privy to details about anyone else getting a talking to.

As an Australian, I can confirm that the coronavirus outbreak has had a significant effect on Australia-China relations, including the emergence of various conspiracy theories which (for better or worse) are a valid topic of discussion in the context of the outbreak. How is that off-topic?

He's going to say he was "just asking a question." What, he's not allowed to ask questions now?? ?? ??

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That's why Paranoid Personality Disorder is a disorder -- its something that can't easily be corrected, and by its very nature it is difficult for the afflicted to recognize it and attempt to make adjustments for their own well-being.

https://image.slidesharecdn.com/mentalillness-120506123010-phpapp02/95/mental-illness-paranoia-ocd-5-728.jpg?cb=1364371345

As such though, that means I should be more willing to give him a break, which I'll honestly try to do going forward...

That is funny how any time I report a post it always seems to be stuck in the queue for weeks, but when a post of mine is reported it is often removed in seconds. I am sure it is just another coincidence along with all the coincidences that most of the posts you removed would be things that would be counter to your political orientation.

You never answered my question about this post either...

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Hey, look at that.  Techy is not above telling others to get help, but will not get the help he needs himself.

If you are not a doctor Techy, then how can you diagnose mental illness?     ::)