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1001  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Another win for the merit system. Thank you LoyceV on: January 17, 2019, 01:30:50 PM
Congratulations buddy.
I am happy for you and make sure you pass the motivation to the other members.

PS: You are quick to get your avatar.
1002  Other / Meta / Re: grin is now accepted for forum payments on: January 17, 2019, 01:23:19 PM
How the forum is going to look at grin as far the payments/transactions are concerned?
Will it be ok to do payments/offer services  in grin in the sections that were exclusively marked for bitcoin?
1003  Other / Meta / Re: Trollonomics: My observation on troll. on: January 16, 2019, 04:35:31 PM
Agree 100%, and I would also add that OP's hierarchy seems to be aimed directly at cryptohunter.

 Actually it is more inspired by this this user and one forgotten Hero.

@Cryptohunter
I already replied to you here

Regarding this thread.
I already said in thread that it is my observation (that can be wrong or right).

One of the purpose of this thread is also to understand Why Self Moderated thread cannot be allowed in Meta?
1004  Other / Meta / Re: You have been permanently banned on: January 16, 2019, 02:42:14 PM
In this case, someone used my Twitter account.

Do not worry , that "someone" will be banned under ban evasion. I hope you are agreeing to that fact that somebody should pay that price of using your twitter without your authorization.
1005  Economy / Services / Re: [3-4$] Find T-Shirt on: January 15, 2019, 01:59:22 PM
Does it look same.

https://www.placedestendances.com/uk/en/lacoste-lacoste-regular-fit-wool-sweater-with-contrasting-round-neck-white-men-3337023

for shipping
https://www.colisexpat.com/pages/en/lpga/etats-unis/place-des-tendances/

PS: I have no idea about this store, look like they are french and I have no idea whether they can be trusted.

Using that colisexpat means that it could cost me much more as I need to ship it there => Shipito and then to my real address but they apparently can deliver to Austria so that'so good.

And yes, I've searched, and the website is apparently reputable. Please post your address.


Thanks Omega.

My address(Segwit ) : 3ECKVvfFyc6aDX4by4TxgaHns4PMmG7ngS

Edit: I received the BTC.
1006  Other / Meta / Re: Trollonomics: My observation on troll. on: January 15, 2019, 01:54:12 PM
Grade two is rather rampant on the forum and most of the reasons is because they came in with the mindset that every cryptocurrency users should not be trusted,hence they tend to take every information skeptically which should not be so in every single situation.

Being skeptical to the information is much different then purposely denying the information to continue with your troll.

Don't bother to reply and argue with them then they will cool automatically. Is it not ? How they will troll if no one reply on their post? 


This is the one the best  strategy currently available to us but troll sometimes post again the same thing again even somebody does not reply to them.
It is better if I am able to delete the troll post. Troll will automatically discouraged in posting.


1007  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: ETF and Bakkt will have effect, but BTC halving is the main deal. on: January 15, 2019, 05:28:48 AM
I tried to understand bakkt and I got feeling all those who are advocating bakkt or ETF, does not understand them or them have very hidden motive behind it. I can cause one time spike in the price but in the end it will be harmful to the bitcoin economy.

My understanding is these all are tools to regulate bitcoin/cryptos.
1008  Other / Meta / Re: DefaultTrust changes on: January 14, 2019, 06:14:48 PM
Just got more then what I expected. Surprised to see my name on DT1 final list. I will revise my custom list once again. I believe no one will misuse his/her feedback from my custom list. Almost them was DT2 from beginning except few.

Congrats buddy. You deserved it.  I have no idea that my wish can come true so soon.


I will like to see you in DT as well.


Congrats to everybody who got in DT1/DT2.
1009  Other / Meta / Trollonomics: My observation on troll. on: January 14, 2019, 06:03:42 PM
Freedom of speech should be granted to everyone but what happen if it used for trolling. Below is my observation on troll and pleas feel free to add your observation.





Disclaimer: This is 100% my original work but pyramid is inspired by Maslow's hierarchy of needs. For the % displayed on that chart , I am obviously trolling (level 1).

PS: Do not forget to comment, why do you think self-moderated thread on meta should not be allowed?
1010  Other / Meta / Re: DefaultTrust changes on: January 14, 2019, 01:52:20 PM
Code:
~snip list~
At least 6 users are banned:
Code:
979216: RuSS512
925926: gawlea
227450: identifyuser
915311: mstfprcn
944905: saulzaents
1331637: zentdex
Some of them are still included, only one still includes another user:
Code:
mstfprcn->Kubra Dam

@theymos: should the custom trust list of a banned user be deleted? If I understand correctly, their existing inclusions still count towards voting.

Look Like LoyceV forget ATMcoin  in list who is also banned.

I do not think satoshi will be coming to vote.

These 2 should be blacklisted from DT eligible list as well as voting too.
Apja94
pitipawn

1011  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Caution!!! Do not buy accounts!!! on: January 14, 2019, 01:02:51 AM
Personally I feel, there might be hardly any account for sell after all these Merit requirements. Those who are selling accounts are might doing a con business.
1. You might not got nothing and will be scammed of your money.
2.Even you are not scammed and got the account, still very likely that you might get banned for plagariasm or red trusted because people spot these changes.
3. Sometimes account sellers try to recover their account after selling.

There are lot of risk associated with purchased account and it is frowned my community, so better to stay from it.
1012  Other / Meta / Re: Reason of my banned account on: January 13, 2019, 07:07:29 AM

Cool story. Luckily you'll have more time to spend with this awesome friend because you're now banned and I'm sure bones reported your Sr. Member alt as well.

I have a long way to go to earn that new reporting badge when it rolls out. Only have 107 good reports so far.  Cool Luckily, these ban appeal threads are like fish hopping into the boat.

Just try the Altcoins bounties section, you will easily get too many post to report if you are specifically looking for reporting badge. I am somewhat better with 150 good reports but still a long way for me to 300.
1013  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin related cartoon on: January 12, 2019, 09:39:11 PM
Very nice thought OP, that you are going to audience with vision and use case of bitcoin.
Otherwise most of the YouTubers are just shilling  to buy bitcoins so that you can sell it more for tomorrow.
1014  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: I have 10 merit to give for Jr.Members and newbies on: January 12, 2019, 03:40:01 PM
I doubled up Mikeywith so that you can enjoy a new rank.
It look strange to me that you still remained Jr.Member for so long. 
Anyways Congratulations.  Keep up your motivation and contribution.
1015  Other / Serious discussion / Re: Are Bankers trying to regulate/dominate the Bitcoin Market? on: January 11, 2019, 07:24:49 PM
I don't know why the people are waiting so eagerly for ETF and Bakkt. They have no idea what they are advocating .

@JC , I saw that video and I will like to echo ETFBitcoin with slight modification "If you can't stop it, then you regulate it".

I just got delayed in posting this but this question was  in mind for at least a month back.
1016  Other / Serious discussion / Are Bankers trying to regulate/dominate the Bitcoin Market? on: January 11, 2019, 04:41:35 PM
Bitcoin just turned 10 years few days back and in this 10 year journey of bitcoin has seen many up and down whether it is Mt.Gox or oscillating price or fork of bitcoin to create bitcoin cash. In this journey bitcoin also get associated with various financial products and service. I am going to look at various product and services associated with bitcoin for which many people have enthusiasm but I am bit skeptical about them.

1.ETF
People are looking at ETF as a medium that will make bitcoin easily available to common man or every household. In reality they forget that many of ETF are just going to be paper ETF with no backing with physical bitcoins. It look to me a direct attack to be bitcoin exclusivity of 21 million coin because paper ETF can bloat the supply on their will. Secondly, ETF will treat bitcoin as an asset instead of currency.

2.Bakkt
Bakkt claim that it is working to create a "secure global platform" that will meet "regulatory requirement".Tagline of Bakkt is "Bringing trust and utility". Their tagline keep me wondering do bitcoin require "trust" or need to prove its "utility"?

3.Payment processing site like bitpay.
Ok, they are providing service and their service is cheaper than using credit card but still they are third party or intermediary between the payee and payer. Is usage of bitcoin is not supposed to remove all the intermediaries in between?

Look like, financial institutions and regulatory bodies have joined hand together for devising  scheme to regulate it and dominate its market/value associated with it. Bitcoin to its core will be governed by it protocol and will remain fully decentralized but it will be fully regulated ,scrutinized and governed by centralized authority in our individual wallets.

Is I am the only one or do you also agree?

 
1017  Economy / Reputation / Re: Being Part Of The League on: January 11, 2019, 04:27:36 PM

I grant you now the [+1] of motivation, r1s2g3 sent me that thing and it really helped me a lot.

Congrats buddy. (oh you still remember that motivational merit!!)

I have one more thing to share with you  that we are Full Member activity buddy. (I also have 336 activity when I become Full Member.)


this is the most difficult step to take from member to full member,later is easier, but you don't care so much anymore Smiley

Truly said.
1018  Other / Meta / Re: DefaultTrust changes on: January 11, 2019, 02:17:04 PM
By looking at this thread, it look like even the veterans have some confusion how the trust system used to work.

Thanks Suchmoon. For giving detailed reply to every question that  I asked and clearing my confusion and assumptions.
1019  Other / Meta / Re: DefaultTrust changes on: January 11, 2019, 12:05:34 PM
but if you negative-rate someone for generally disliking them, then their retaliation against you may stick. In borderline cases, it should result in something of a political battle.

Can we make the system that rating turns negative (otherwise it remain ???) if it is supported by 2 other DT1/or (2 other member of custom trust list) just to diffuse dislike. Obvious scammer will likely to tagged by everybody.

#1
As a special exception to the normal algorithm for determining a user's trust network, if you are on the default trust list ("DT1") but more other DT1 members distrust you than explicitly trust you, then it is as if you are distrusted by the default trust list for all purposes except for this very DT1-composition determination.

Will user status will be DT2 or user will be expelled from DT2 too?

This is inspired partly by something that David Friedman said once (though I can't find the quote), that one of the requirements for a peaceful society is the credible threat of retaliation in case you are harmed.

Is that the quote:

Quote
“So somehow each functional peaceful society has worked out some solution to that mutual threat game.”

1020  Other / Meta / Re: [Lets Discuss]Custom Trust list and Pros and Cons of the system. on: January 11, 2019, 05:26:52 AM
Now it look like custom list instead of appending with forum list is just overriding the forum default trust.
I am interested in appending system so that I can add few that I want to trust in additional to other. Look like current system is adding overhead to add so many users.

You can append if you do this:

Code:
DefaultTrust
included_user1
included_user2
~excluded_user1
~excluded_user2

However this screws up depth somewhat. You probably want depth 2 with DefaultTrust so that you can see DT1 and DT2 green/red ratings. But depth 2 will also make you see 3 levels (0, 1, 2) for included_user1 and included_user2, which might be not what you want.

Alternatively, don't use DefaultTrust and do a full custom list. I think that's what you're were worried as becoming "static". But you can always review it at the beginning of each month when DT1 is regenerated. You'd have to do it even if you used DefaultTrust as above because regeneration might have dropped users you want to include and vice versa. So might as well just do full custom.

Looks like it got fixed now, thanks.
But I am more interested in cons of system specifically about point 2 and 3. Does not it look like it is becoming easier to game the system ?
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