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10001  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you think COVID19 is a scam? on: October 25, 2020, 11:21:27 PM
Your example links are incomplete in three major ways:
1. They are incomplete as far as River's or any standard procedure not being followed in its entirety;
2. There isn't enough detail so that another researcher could follow even one process to get the same results;
3. Can't find the infecting of hundreds test subjects; please point it out to us with the link, the page or title of reference, and some of the wording.

I don't expect the researchers to have intentionally falsified information. But their info is incomplete. Being incomplete, what did they really isolate? Show anybody how they might have known what they isolated, not what they said they isolated.

Thanks, buddy.

Cool

firstly. it does pass koch rivers and even bell.. you been told that.
secondly researchers can copy the results because they do have all the details needed. thats why there are so many other studies you can find around the internet. i even linked you to  listing that shows 2000+ studies all following it. months ago i linked you the database of 2000+ where its been performed
that database now has over 80k and they use the same method and also other methods and come to same results which double backs up koch,rivers and bell that the initial method works
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sra/?term=txid2697049%5BOrganism:noexp%5D%20NOT%200[Mbases

fourthly mice, rats, snakes, cats, and even monkeys has been used as test subjects. yep there are thousands of studies you are ignoring

if you are still unsure they even have contact info of those doing the studies. so go learn something straight from the source
10002  Other / Politics & Society / how protests SHOULD be done on: October 25, 2020, 01:04:44 PM
so in the last 6 months we have seen many protests. and most end up just turning into riots/media circuses but dont cause actual change. and here is the reason
many idiots think a protest is about causing a riot/damage to get media attention under the hope that they can blackmail government into changing laws just to get the property damage to stop.
sorry this never works

instead this scheme just makes the protests subject matter get lost in translation and appear like it only benefits radicalists and criminals, thus making it less likely to even be discussed in government.

so here is the way to really make it work.
weeks before a protest communicate with those people that want the subject matter addressed in government, and get them to sign a petition. actually get some notoriety on paper(petition website).
once you have got enough participants. then plan for the protest to be a peaceful presentation of the protest to the government. walk the streets and actually show respect for personal space and property.

it does not mean 1mill need to all travel to washington for just one protest. it can be 100k going to the 10 main states affected by the subject matter.
atleast getting some local representatives to acknowledge the petition at city town halls can add some credit to the petition. by saying its endorsed/favoured by local representatives. this then makes the senators more willing to take it onboard and sponsor/cosponsor it themselves
then when you feel like it has had local endorsement/favour. take it to washington and do a peaceful protest to present the petition there.
write out the petition like a draft bill format

by actually shouting 'we have petitions government' rather then 'we hate government' it then becomes governments job to do something and not just turn a blind eye
..
so here it is
just showing 'we want X' 'we want Y' 'we hate government' and so on just gets the message lost in the crowd where government have no clue what people actually want
but if you plan out the needs of a certain subject matter. and actually explain solutions. and formulate it into a written request with 100k+ signatures confirming it. its not that easy to then have the government ignore it. it wont confuse them.

many idiots think the womens suffragettes just run around being radicals and damaging property. but they were not. that just media spin. they actually caused positive change by doing petitions and actually getting their message heard in government.

so dont just think 'if i turn up and chant.. things will change' they wont. it will just seem like your not being heard and some idiots then resort to violence thinking that will make them heard. again no.

governments like things on paper. lists of demands and desires in a nice easy to understand format that makes it clear what they can do to fulfil the desires

take police reform
just having idiots screaming 'defund the pigs' gets nothing
instead. listing what retraining police forces should offer. what certain arrest methods should be abolished(knee on head). and if police should even raise their gun on just suspicion or actual visual confirmation the suspect has a weapon in their hand pointing at the cop.(because in america just having a gun is not a crime so no one should be shot for just having a gun)

actually write down the desires and solutions. then get it recognised as a public desire by petition signatures. then get some higher up recognition/endorsement by local council/representatives.. then get it properly infront of the eyes of the whitehouse and congress
make it so there is no excuses to ignore or pretend they dont understand whats needed
dont make it just a frat street party

oh and to all those anonymous radicals. if you are too afraid to put your name forward to a cause that means something to you. maybe it doesnt mean that much after all. maybe you just want an excuse to get angry and destroy something. if so. just dont
10003  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you think COVID19 is a scam? on: October 25, 2020, 03:08:43 AM
kaufman was outdated. and debunked within days of plastering his propaganda

..
anyway.. just one example
human sample
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31978945/
more detail https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7092803/

then the passing the sample to another lab to then do the koch test to confirm
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/biorxiv/early/2020/02/28/2020.02.07.939389.full.pdf

and yes it describes al the tech and lab equipment and extraction methods. it even has the chest xrays of the patient and the virus under the microscope
then the otherone also describes all the tech and lab equipment and method of infecting  healthy mouse.

heck they even have pictures of the virus in the mouse and even pictures off its heart and lungs thy disected

you have been shown all this but then you played ignorant saying you dont understand it because its too sciency for you.
you then spun around and wanted a simplified review of it. and when that was presented you said it was too simple and not a scientific study

so here is your mission.if you want to keep pretending you want to see a study that proves the virus existance. stop being ignorant and learn what the reports say

there are loads of them. but requires you to actually bother looking
10004  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you think COVID19 is a scam? on: October 24, 2020, 11:25:51 PM
^^^ The virus doesn't exist that anyone knows of. It might exist. But nobody really knows. Proper tests haven't been done to prove it. But if they have been done, nobody can seem to find them. So we don't know that the tests have been done, and we don't know if the virus is real. However...

The pandemic is real. If you call the pandemic by the name "Covid-19," then Covid-19 is real. Only thing is, it isn't a viral pandemic.

Cool

you have been linked the many studies. there are thousands of studies that show the sequence they found. they have done the kosh rivers and bell to triple confirm.
many countries have then independantly done it for further confirmation

if you dare look and search you will find the evidence but it involves you not just reading conspiracy sites.
check out new york in march/april where they had to hire refrigerated vans to hold all the dead because there were more excess deaths than usual. far more than a hospital can cope with.

other hospitals in other states too.
i know your stuck reading conspiracies based on outdated january snippits of info. but its october and you have had plenty of time to update yourself

you cant pretend you have not been told to update yourself. in every topic your stupidity is noted,, you have been corrected and asked to update yourself.
10005  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What is the vaccine for? on: October 24, 2020, 05:53:50 AM
No, there is not going to be a vaccine before US elections. That's why Trump has approved a quack medicine for coronavirus so that people would assume he's doing something good. A good strategy though. Elections are just about making people believe. Voters are just sheep who goes wherever you herd them. If you don't, someone else would herd them.

the november vaccine 'intermediate' report is just about did the vaccine cause any adverse effects. with any participants from march-october... it will have nothing to do with if the vaccine will inoculate people against covid.

even in the UK the scientists doing the main trials on the main vaccine america have hope for are still trying to get permission to do a trial from january to purposefully give participants covid to see how effective the vaccine is.
meaning no results of vaccines effectiveness against covid will come from novembers report.

the scientists are saying its not the time to release the vaccine to mass populous. and its only trump saying november is the time.

and as many people have been asked 'if trump approves a vaccine will you take it'. EVERYONE has answered 'if trump endorses it.. no, ill wait for the science to approve it'

so if your unsure about vaccines. dont be a trump sheep. wait until mid 2021 for a proper answer to the vaccine question from the actual doctors and scientist
10006  Other / Politics & Society / Re: NASA to make major announcement about the moon on Monday on: October 24, 2020, 05:39:53 AM
probably sofia found water on the moon..

Yes the participants shows that this announcement could be somehow related to water,

the whole idea of artemis is to set up 'fuel stations' in space to then make asteroid/mars mission practical.
and to do that they need to get fuel from the moon to these space refulers at a cheaper/more effecient way than launching from earth.
otherwise they would just launch from earth and not bother with artemis projects.

so ofcourse its about water and the moon mining

Quote
NASA Publishes Artemis Plan to Land First Woman, Next Man on Moon in 2024. ... We're going back to the Moon for scientific discovery, economic benefits, and inspiration for a new a generation of explorers. As we build up a sustainable presence, we're also building momentum toward those first human steps on the Red Planet.”21 Sep 2020

you didnt really think SpaceX CSO/CEO elon was only using boring drills for californian road tunnels. nah that was a commercialised sandbox test for drills to then be used in space
10007  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The Covid madness increases in the UK. on: October 23, 2020, 01:39:46 PM
At present testing for Covid19 is limited to hospitals in the United Kingdom a large number of those who died outside the hospital were not included in the statistics. The government has decided to take legal action to impose fines on those who violate the isolation system in the UK. There were guidelines for adhering to social distance to prevent coronavirus infection but many do not agree that the infection is increasing.

in march the testing was mainly in hospitals. but now it has expanded.
but now if one kid is tested positive. his whole school year can be tested if they even have the mildest of symptoms. which means that what was say 30k testing of severe patient admissions. is now 300k of random people that think they might have it
yep when hospitals were seeing 20k and nursing homes were seeing 10k of severe symptoms. we are now at the same scale of 'asymptomatic' that were not tested and with the same mild syptomatics. but with less hospitalisations
because social distancing/masks resulted in less severe cases per asymptomatic/mild
we could if everyone were to social distance/maskwear actually complied with the rules. could have even less hospitalisation per asymptomatic/mild. meaning less change of needing to raise the alert level. less chance of tightening the rules. because the hospitals can cope.

i can understand boris doesnt want to go into full lockdown again unless all hospitals were at/over capacity.
i can understand the regional rules so that low spread southwest is more relaxed then high spread north england
so he doesnt want to trigger a full national lockdown unless its unavoidable to prevent hospital overflow.
and he doesnt want to trigger full march-april rules again regionallyunless the hospitals are at critical levels
but that does not mean people should not reduce the risk of it climbing to that point. and the only option to avoid it getting to critical peaks of hospitalisation is to actually wear masks and respect personal space

if cashier spitguards and asking customers to wear a mask inside a shop is all thats really being asked (because your suppose to respect personal space anyway) then thats not much to be asking people to do.
and by doing it. means that they can avoid not being able to socialise with close friends and family.
yep if everyone actually followed level 1 policy they can avoid level 2. but in places where the dont respect level 1 and some dont respect level 2 level 3 is then implemented. and risks of triggering the march-april full restrictions.

so if you want to avoid the practical and easy to perform stuff. expect the rules to tighten and be less able to socialise with close family and friends

yep if family start having weekly house parties of 30people where in previous years they never did.. then they are the ones that will be shooting their selves in the foot by being told they cant even have 6 close friends in their homes.
so dont be an idiot doing the far opposite of the restrictions because you will just cause more restrictions.
this is the one time where protesting against a restriction will actually cause more restrictions.
if you really want to have restrictions relaxed. following them is the fastest way to relax them
10008  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Your purpose in life. on: October 23, 2020, 12:46:00 PM
a successful and happy life is about finding the career that meets your interest. where your interest has evolved from childhood. this helps you to want to be more involved. to actually grow within that career and expand the business and make the business a better success aswell as bring more success to you.

the problem is not everyone gets the oppertunity to live their inspirations. many towns are limited to certain industries so those town colleges lean towards those industries so a empassioned singer with very few oppertunities to sing, end up going to college to learn engineering or business and spend most of their working life in engineering/business.. where singing is just a hobby/weekend thing

yep its true. toilet cleaners in mcdonalds dont dream of having that job when they are kids

the % of people that actually get to live their inspirations and interest is not even 20%

however with he internet. certain things can turn their weekend hobby into a income stream that can allow them to spend more time in their interest and less time in the 'norm'

artists can use things like 'fiver' to sell their art or get commissions for $20-$1000.
singers can use youtube to promote their voice. more artists these days just need to spam links to their videos which is more easy than trying to audition the old way.

but even with fiver/youtube being around for over a decade now. the amount of people where their day job is their interest/inspiration is still not above 20%
10009  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The Covid madness increases in the UK. on: October 23, 2020, 11:22:16 AM
jet cash lives in a mobile home and keeps to himself. he probably parks it at night in the country well away from other people. and then just drives into town to just charge his phone up and have a coffee before vacating populated area's

jetcash fears getting sick himself. when he cries about the risk of getting it while near the cashier desk. so he does know the risk. but he wants the rest of the world to get sick/die. so that the hope is that the virus circulates out of populous for him to be no longer at risk

the problem is at the current restrictions it would take 4 years to circulate through a 70% herd. and the problem with that is that each season 6-12months it can recirculate through the same group over and over again. meaning his dream of being 100% covid free populous will never be achieved
sorry jetcash the virus is going to remain endemic(always there)

he does not understand that small pox only got abolished from the populous due to vaccines. polio is 99% abolished again due to vaccines

jetcash actually wants people to be sick he wants hospitals over run he wants doctors and nurses to end up being patients themselves. all so he can be a selfish idiot with dreams of freedom.. but the reality of this is foolishness

the social distancing and masks has actually reduced the viral load people inhale. yep it works the amount of symptomatic cases was 80-50% in march without the policy and is now about 40-25% with the policy. so it does actually work. though this means ~2x people can socialise with half the risk thus half the hospitalisation rate. this does not mean suddenly 70% of people can live normal lives with no restrictions.
it means instead of a steady 0.4% spread per week being acceptable. now its about 0.8% a week. meaning yep if people actually do social distancing and wear masks he can get his herd spread with low viral load risk within 2 years instead of 4 years.. emphasis if peopel actually follow the policy

but no. he foolishly pretends its herd immunity right now and he thinks the fantasy is no one should obide by restriction policy anymore.

but there are stats that show hospitalisations are still occuring. which counters his foolish ignorance
yep since schools opened up meaning more parents went back to work. they numbers went up. which shows relaxing the restrictions causes the hospitalisation rate go up
..
maybe he just doesnt know because he is only able to access the internet for 60minutes a day. and wastes 58minutes on conspiracy sites. so maybe its not ignorance but just not having time to research. so i hope as from tomorrow he spends less time on conspiracy sites and more time reading the actual statistics. and then when out in the country using a pen and paper to do some maths and actually learn what the numbers mean.
10010  Other / Politics & Society / Re: NASA to make major announcement about the moon on Monday on: October 22, 2020, 08:35:44 PM
probably sofia found water on the moon.. next up sending equipment up to mine the water and the convert it to fuel to then mine for other precious minerals either on the moon or nearby asteroids.

elons 'boring' machine will be first launched to the moon

and turn the moon into the gas station for space mining
10011  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Plastic barriers next to supermarket queues. on: October 22, 2020, 08:00:25 PM
If they really wanted to kill the virus, then they would use copper impregnation a lot more ( on the barriers, nit the people), I understand that the virus can't remain viable for more than 5 minutes on copper. But then it suits them to use these tunnels to spread the live virus.

the barriers are a spit guard for the workers while being transparent to still see each other

if you put up a copper panel. you cant see because its then a metal wall.. well even if they were to do it. i guarantee you that they wont be buying your copper. they would research you and notice your hygiene and safety guidelines are not acceptable standard. so try not to make this a way to promote your copper hoarding. you wont get it sold

here is the thing. if you stand at a distance and wear a mask like asked to do. and your in the cashier queue you will only be there for 5 minutes 'in the tunnel' so with all three features. your risk is low
10012  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The Covid madness increases in the UK. on: October 21, 2020, 07:10:59 PM
oh here we go.. jetcash after having 8 months to learn the science, logic and common sense about the lockdown.. still fails
then we have badecker. now going back to his old freeman scripts of february..

why do these two people not understand that their concepts and scripts are not based on logic, but more morphed idea's found on conspiracy/cult sites.

why after 8 months have they not wised up.

anyway to address the cries of jetcash
1. the main concern is the number of hospitalisations. but thats like 3-5 days after infection so kinda too late to plan anything after the fact. so by looking at the number of infections rise,yep its a good predictor of hospitalisation rise.

2. the new 3 tier rules system is actually more relaxed than the spring lockdown. it only affects places with high cases. so country towns with low infection are not restricted automatically.
im guessing jetcash would weirdly be a hypocrit to his spring cries and now want the old rules back.. without understanding that these new rules are actually solutions to his earlier cries

3. you can be social. at a distance.. its not about antisocial where you cant talk to anyone. its about being anti physical. in many ways its better. usually in a pub theres a crowd lingering at a bar meaning you gotta push passed and wait for them to stop shouting at the tv to get your order heard. by now having table service you just raise your arm like prompting a waiter and they bring you a drink. yep i found it easier to order many rounds of alcohol with this new set up. and we still get to play quiz nights, karaoke, watch sports. chat to each other across tables.. we just not going to have to worry about spitting in each others drinks or knocking each other over spilling pints.

4. wait jetcash i thought you wanted people to gather and inhale a group of peoples exhalation cloud.. now suddenly you against gatherings? then why cry about the new pub layout. can you atleast make your mind up. do you prefer shoulder to shoulder or distanced interactions

5. if you want wifi and only wifi. go to a cybercafe. supermarket cafe's are for quick snacks and drinks. heck even the supermarket carparks are designed for 60-90minutes because even without this covid season supermarkets dont think their customers need to e in their store for more then 90 minutes. so dont blame covid

6. you only need to wear a mask for as long as your in a situation indoor where you are coming into close contact with people not in your household.
so do your shopping pay for your shopping and leave. then you can take your mask off
also if your already infected. you should not be one of those idiots that still leaves their home and be breathing on people in the supermarket.

7. in america. NY state is about 25% but with other states much much lower the average for america is under 10%. UK is even less then 10%
sorry but no where near the 70% herd threshold. not by a factor of atleast 7-8
10013  Other / Serious discussion / Re: Testing a vaccine against a low risk virus. on: October 21, 2020, 06:31:48 PM
If you stay hydrated, then mucociliary clearance should handle that.

tell that to people getting sick because they frequent places that primarily sell drinks
covid is a novel virus. meaning new. meaning your body has not seen it before to know it needs to activate your snot glands before damage is done. meaning you cant rely on your mucus to save you if you are trying to infer that in your mind the mucociliary clearance as the snotty nose first defense


mucocilliary clearance is more the cleanup, after the damage.
which covid is different to flu because it seems to inhibit the repair systems after. hense the long covid

its not a 48hour flu and then fine experience
10014  Other / Serious discussion / Re: I'm seriously concerned about the money being stuffed down the vaccine toilet. on: October 21, 2020, 04:29:05 PM
money for vaccine research is only the same amount of money for a 2 week circuitbreak lockdown for only birmingham UK.

the funny thing is the oxford vaccine is actually making money from america. yep UK benefiting from vaccine research.

oops. wait.. now i get it.. your in the UK but your one of them weird people that think your deep down american and you are pretending that american things affect you.
now its starting to explain things where you keep thinking that big pharma profits on people. you keep forgetting how the UK health system works

maybe oneday you will take your MAGA hat off and remember that your british. but that day is only a possibility when you stop reading american conspiracy sites

more money is wasted trying to commercialise battered marsbars in retail shops and guess what. they didnt last long.
so if you wanna cry about wasting money for corporate products. i can name many
10015  Other / Serious discussion / Re: Testing a vaccine against a low risk virus. on: October 21, 2020, 06:51:03 AM
But then, it really doesn't make sense that the age grade of which the virus affects is not being used for testing of the vaccine. Using the healthy youths to test for the potency of a vaccine against a virus that is lethal to mainly the aged and people with certain respiratory health complications would just create a bias in determining it's potency.

it about do no harm. the very same reason why no country has yet to revoke the ethical clause that prevents trial participants to then be injected/inhale the actual virus a few months after vaccination to see how effective it is in a short trial time period

take it another way. imagine a certain group of people feared swimming or were prone to easily drown.
and science found a new water substance that was more buoyant than normal water. they would first test it on confident swimmers to see if it actually is more buoyant. they would prefer expert swimmer that can describe the experience in better detail and be more critical. making sure it offers greater safety for swimmers.. before letting the at risk group try it.
EG chaffing and wrinkly skin is normal. but to an inexperienced swimmer they would say its a fault with the test water solution, thus create issues with accurate reporting.

where atrisk groups with age and medical conditions would be more complainy about small things thus not offer good reliable circumstantial/consequential review of the science.
EG having gout for 10 years but not telling a doctor.  then have a vaccine and suddenly start talking about their gout and their 25yo autistic child. and start thinking the vaccine caused it

so picking a group which are reliable and more honest helps get better results.
teachers and doctors are offered participation in trials for all of them reasons, especially the better reliability of reporting.and also they are more prone to then be in contact with larger groups of random people to then get natural infections through their daily life without having to be injected/inhaling the actual virus on purpose

the intermediate results of if the vaccine has caused any adverse reactions come out soon for a few trials. but thats just about if the vaccine is bad in of itself
the parts about if it can protect against covid wont really begin until 2021+
so they may expand the participation group to include more random people of different ages/backgrounds once they know the vaccine is deemed safe(even before its deemed effective)

trump wants to use this intermediary safety report as the excuse to put millions of people into participation before christmas. pretending the lack of vaccine adverse reaction is proof of protection/effectiveness against covid(facepalm)

i personally would rather wait until next july/october when the results of if the vaccine actually protects against covid come out
as for the UK wanting permission to be exempt from the clause preventing actually giving people the covid virus on purpose in a lab condition. this may speed results of effectiveness up by 5-6 months.
this is a small trial on under 100 people, and im not sure they will get such permission without offering the best care they can if such trial participants did get sick due to lack of effectiveness.
usually there would need to be good medical treatments that can nearly guarantee survival to grant permission of harming people on purpose
10016  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Athiest are the ultimate free thinker? on: October 21, 2020, 06:26:31 AM
religious radicals and athiest radicals use others as the blame/exception to allow them to do radical acts.

athiests blame their wife,government, employer, skin colour gender
religious blame sins, god,bible

i dont mind people being religious. as long as they dont quote/use their religion as an excuse to upset,distress,harm, kill others

same with athiest conspiracy people. carry on blaming others in your mind. but dont use it as your excuse to harm/distress others

What is an atheist radicals? How often do we have radical acts of atheism? If there ever was a "neutral dogma", atheism would be it. I can't think of any major mass murder attacks done in the name of atheism. Usually it's radical Islamists or Christians that would conduct terror attacks.

school shootings where the crazy kid done it as a dare he read on the internet.
american gun lovers that shoot due to loving their government/constitution
there are many examples of radicals that are not quoting god as their inspiration.
trump supporters in general, that quote the constitution more often then change their underwear

islamists and christians are not being told by the quran or bible to kill invaders.. its actually the invaders that these nutjobs feel threatened by. and so look to another source whether its bible or quran for their guilt free exemption. usually in the form of having their sins clensed or forgiven or offered a great afterlife

yep athiests look to their constitution for their guilt free pass. thinking it immortalises them as a high ranking defender of their homeland. thus thinking they get some symbolic reward/promotion for being crazy
10017  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The cure for Covid-19 is right here. on: October 21, 2020, 05:50:20 AM
funny part is i read loads of reports from lots of sources i even bother to talk to local doctors in my area. i get info from people that actually treat and see patients first hand

your references are the same group of doctors who are not face to face with covid. and dont treat or examine or do labs on covid patients.

yep you been circling around kaufman for months and it was no surprise that you just want to his buddy group. you fear actually looking outside the small group you put yourself into(conspiracy cultists)

when you are linked act reports of actual doctors doing actual diagnoses on actual patients they have seen with their actual eyes.. you deny it. but when you see a conspiracy fanatic pillmill doctor that just takes invoices for medications. you pretend they are the top doctors in the country and they are the experts

Klark and bartlet do not see patients face to face. they just take phonecalls and webportal messages and reply with a list of medications people should take

maybe if you even bothered to get out of your house and actually opened your mind enough to talk to doctors working in the hospitals near you that see it daily in your area. where you can truly verify their claims because its all local to you.. you would see the truth..
but instead you prefer to find the 9 most crappy pillmill doctors that dont see it daily and only want to sell pills..

so i think you have things the wrong way round
10018  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Covid reinfection on: October 20, 2020, 10:17:26 PM
^^^ In other words, don't commit suicide to keep yourself from dying of Covid. Standard franky1 blab.

says badecker the main person that was telling people to drink bleach as the way to prevent covid
funny part is if he believed it was fake he would not be trying to advertise anything to 'cure it'
10019  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The cure for Covid-19 is right here. on: October 20, 2020, 10:10:33 PM
Eat love Pray
@EatlovePray11
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Oct 15
OMG this will be worldwide news


world doctors allience. 9 people that are not virologists currently studying covid. thus no 1st hand experience
Dr elke Klerk is a website pillmill doctor. yep you send a message through a web portal about what meds you want and she fills out a prescription.
thus ofcourse she cant see covid. she cant even see the patient. all she sees is requests for pills

come on badecker... atleast try to do your research

stop just trying to find the first person that agrees with your idiotic thought and actually look for the truth for once

then i seen cahill.. and then kaufman. and it made me laugh.. kinda like having 9 drunk idiots on a karaoke stage singing the wrong lyrics to a song but trying to shout that they are the actual artists/singers and no one is better then them.. yea if you get out the basement you will see this kind of idiocy alot
10020  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Plastic barriers next to supermarket queues. on: October 20, 2020, 09:06:15 PM
~ taken things out of context like MSM ~
I should've said it meant to be a tool to protect the staff against droplets, not aerosols. Because under normal circumstances, this virus doesn't spread via airborne aerosols.
If you worry about airborne infection, plastic won't help if there are small openings or ventilation.

droplets.. aerosols.. air
airborne=air ..dont worry about open air of people 100m away.
aerosols=normal breath.. yes be concerned. so just dont spend lengthy time near people breathing near you
droplets=cough, sneezes.. yes be concerned. so avoid getting coughed and sneezed in the face or being near to get the spray

i know your trying to appropriate the 'airborne' term to make it seem as if it doesnt travel on breath. but peoples breath is an aerosol. and it can be spread by people breathing.

just not going to be something that lingers in the air for large distance and large timescales

try not to confuse airborne vs aerosol.
remember airborne means lingers in the air.. such as how carbon stays in the atmosphere.. but thats different to the aerosols emitted from pressurised lungs exhaling breath

if you look at a smoker. get them to exhale their smoke towards someones face 2mb away. and then put a plastic panel or even a beach windbreak between them and then get them to exhale smoke in the same direction and see that there is a difference of how much gets to the other person

yes the plastic panel is even better as a shield for cough and sneeze droplets. but dont try to suggest plastic is useless for breaths and stop pretending that breathing cant transfer virus
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