in england a few years ago. insulting many countries ok but isreal was a poke the bear topic.

politicians were dismissed if they even joked about it.

the reason is not racism in general. but UK/euro are now highly tied to isreal. and want to be best isreali friends. so suddenly its felt like a mega hitsquad taskforce has been set out to stop any negative talks about isreal

i found it a bit weird initially when i seen politicians get dismissed over petty jokes. but then when looking at the purse strings of how much isreal promises to give uk/europe. you start to see why

WHO is an advisory service
trump thought they were an authority with powers to invade countries and investigate onsite with no backlash

yep WHO is just advisory. they can investigate and do tests in china or in any country. but with that countries invitation.

usually its there for countries to hand them test results. and internationally have them test results scrutinised and then reported once verified

trump doesnt want to give them authority. but hypocritically angry they dont have authority so thinks they are a waste of money.

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here is the thing. WHO is not one country. not bias or leaning towards any country. its multinational. with experts verifying data cross the planet. much like blockchain verification

turn them into the armed forces invasion team. is not what WHO is for

this results in people being ok to buy bitcoin on exchanges. but the bitcoin they hold they dont want to sell on exchanges. and instead convert it elsewhere like giftcards

i personally do all my shopping using giftcards via bitcoin. thus avoid the bank deposits. and so i dont worry about the stress of fiat.

by doing this of more people buying and less people selling causes a rise in demand and a drop in supply. thus helps the price.

what it would do though is when big industry accumilate bitcoin from selling products. they would dump coin in larger volume causing more temporary dips

so instead of

/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
if would be
                  _   _
     ______/  | /
__/               V

of course its maths.
its not a psychic. person A will be deathly sick person B will be fine crystal ball prediction. its based on maths
the further you are for the least time = less risk, less viral load inhaled=less chance of being deathly sick
its simple logic and yes logic is maths
very fit and healthy doctors and nurses that had no underlying issues who HAD TO be in close proximity to sick people ended up as being patients themselves with covid

the virus is not like a random mosquito that has its own flight plan and decides who to attack. the virus is based on proximity and viral load count. and many other factors such as time. so it is possible to know the risks. is possible to calculate the risks and possible to give guidance on what is low and what is high risk activity

badecker in this very topic i pointed it out many times.
your kaufman link is not a rebuttal but a sign of a guy that has outdated info
he has been debunked many times

i know you suffer from memory problems and forgot you got debunked. but waiting 2 weeks and then rehashing your stupidity will not suddenly make you right.

you got debunked. accept it and move onto something new.
just get over it
you seen the report.. you accepted the report. but then you cried about it not passing the koch to show that its the 'dangerous isolate'.. i proved it did. heck there were even studies, notes and images of the animals involve and their results
then you cried it didnt pass the rivers. i proved it did and i also preempted your ploy by also showing it passed the bell, before you had chance to meander into that.
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so just accept it. you got debunked. heck i even debunked your weird criteria that the test had to involve centrifuge which you repetidly thought it didnt.. but yea i proved you wrong again

trumps decrease in unemployment?
'freelancer' zero hour contract, no guarantee of minimum wage jobs fake the unemployment numbers.
many many more people lost proper full time employment. and ended up working for things like Uber and amazon delivery. which is not a guaranteed proper contracted employment.

heck even trump himself threw out and reshuffled many of his aids in the last few years. in short under trumps administration there is no such things as 'job security'

many retailers had many jobcuts. where their 'hiring plan' is 90% part time
so if you actually count year-on-year fulltime employment numbers.
manufacturing decreased
the number of full time employed people has gone down.

its like if i sacked you from a 40hour job. and then rehired you for 18 hours and hired someone else for 18 hours. well to trump thats 2x employment. but reality is my salary costs(citizen income) has gone down. and i am now putting 2 people into the 'poverty line' by not earning a salary that can cover all daily costs

just think about the real statistics and not the trump PR campaign
put it this way
with more then 3.8million people turning 'of age' and only 1mill retiring
=2.8m extra working age people.
only 2mill increase in fulltime employment

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if you look at the 'quits level' which is about 3mill a month. but the 'job openings' to fill these vacancies do not equal that

so not only are there 800k newly eligable for work people straight out of school. not getting jobs. but those in jobs that resign/dismissed. are not having their roles replaced.

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read this for some insight into 'incentives' employers have

this means if they employ someone for 121 hours (>12hours a day for for 10 days) they only have to pay someone 60% costs because 40% is covered by government.
so dismissing(turning over) staff regularly is cost effective

so those on social security for certain disabilities. or just unemployment benefits or a veterin. are finding that they are treated like spinning plates. employed short term and dismissed for silly reasons

this happens alot in retail/hospitality/leisure. hiring 'seasonal staff'

before trade, was battle and theft of neighbouring clans
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anyway.
when groups teach 'we are the best, we are this we are that'. that forms a mindset that the group empowers themselves and finds separation from those not in the group
sometimes it can be used positively to recognise people without, and try to bring them in and raise them up to the same standards. and sometimes its a go chest thumping 'if your not with us your against us' war cry

hundreds of years ago. when it would take days to travel just a few hundred miles.. people would battle other lands because they knew if the battle was won or lost. they could move and be days ahead/away from enemy and never be found again, meaning no long term harm/repurcussions
its the same reason a modern racist would be polite to a neighbour but be vulgar and hateful to a stranger. because they think 10 minutes later they dont have to see the stranger again

these days when we realise we are just one planet and there is no where to hide, we start to realise we have to think of the long term survival, rather than just the current event

eg .. russian/us relations seem bad. but russia's long term relationship with america is good. they buy iphones, KFC franchises, mcdonalds. and heck they even helped take americans to the space station

once clans/groups/races/countries realise the cant escape a situation. then you see them start diplomacy

it has been isolated. you are reading conspiracy myths from january.
please realise it is now october
you are 10 months out of date

im really concerned about the time being wasted stuffing nonsense into jetcashes head.

if only he spend less time on conspiracy site. he would have soo much spare time to find facts

couple points to make
1. american leader has it. and cant even be bothered to actually stay self isolated for a whole 7 days
https://www.youtube.com/embed/iu7_05tVfHM?start=41&end=73
yep. they say this 5 minute car journey now means his entourage is supose to now self isolate away from their own families for 14 days.
(whether they do or dont is one thing. but he couldnt even wait a few extra days before risking them)

2. UK leader had it months ago. so chances of getting it again so soon is lower. and while he gets temperature tested to be able to open a door to a BBC news studio. his entourage who have not had it yet to be at low risk, dont wait and then get temperature checked to gain entry individually. as meant to happen. but they rush through the door trying to slip passed the temperature sensor before the door closes.
https://www.youtube.com/embed/oJYtLBWLmt4?start=161&end=173
thus if one of the entourage did have it. they can now pass it to others within the BBC building.

kind of hard for people to follow rules if the leaders themselves are not following the rules the leaders set people to follow

the thing about slavery is. it comes in many forms nowadays
take the army. when on tour. the army houses, feeds you. so you dont really use money. and so when you get back you hope to see a nice big fat bank balance waiting for you.
in many cases of WW1,WW2,vietnam. this did not happen
some veterins actually got deported as soon as their tour ended

other notable acts of slavery are prison labour.
but thats modern slavery

historic slavery may show very little amount of people left that will fit into the small criteria left to be a valid compensation claim now. but the whole point is just to say its done. final. put a line in the sand and now move on finally.
this issue is that if they open the door of historic slavery. it may be an unending open door for all forms of modern slavery too.
thus fuelling more controversy, instead of extinguishing it

he is on the other camp
he wants to risk human lives. he doesnt want to hide his face and all he cares about is the government fiat.

now that is one hell of a misdirect and a weird promotion he is pushing. defying government by doing what the government wants. remember the health system is not government and the government is fighting against heath by telling people that they wont pay out much longer for health issues.

jetcash really doesnt realise which camp he has joined.
i would rather governments stop bailing out billionaire businesses. and instead pay for healthcare and housing for the low income... but jetcash wants the opposite

the bible talks about girls at 13 getting pregnant and then marrying
so underage sex is not new
what is actual history is that in the victorian times they tried to be civilised by only saying sex after marriage.
then they raised the age of marriage to 16
but.. bar wenches and street ladies have been a common career for millenia.

in the 1920's once 'media' became a thing commoners also read/seen then yea that 'civilised' message was blasted everywhere and commoners wanted to act like nobles too. thinking virginity was secred and something that only a upper class elite guy should take from a teenage girl
in the 1950's with TV this was pushed further. pushing the loyal housewife propaganda with things like 'bewitched' yep TV regulation did not allow sexualised content
coming of age girl tv shows were about obedience and finding a man to marry
coming of age guy tv shows/movies were about rebelling and talking about girls and adventures


what im basically saying is media actually made the last 3 generations pre y2k(1925+)sexually repressed. and now media/tv is relaxing to respond to how the real world works not the christian cancel culture regulalators want.
but its a fight

this appears to be a 'woke' bill just to say they doing something. but its not going to be 'repaired' in a few months. they going to string it out till 2023

the other thing is of the ~4k californian slaves they estimate
not all 4k were not compensated. so imagine if worse case half were not compensated even though california wants to say much higher were compensated

so lets just give some big numbers(yep il start with tinfoil hat exagerations)
2k slaves find 2k other ladies. they have 2 kids
so now 2k slaves become 2k+ 4kdecendants
~25 years on 4k decendants have 2kids =8k
~25 year on 8k decendants have 2 kids=6k. plus the original 2k die of old age
~25 years on 16k have 2 kids=32k. and their 4k grandparents die of old age
~25 year on 32k have 64k kids. and their 8k grandparents die of old age
(we are now at the year~1960)
~25 years 64k decendants have 128k kids. 16k grandparents die of old age
~25 year 128k decendants have 256k kids. 32k grandparents die of old age
so on 2010 stats there are probably 3 generations still alive totalling about 448k.

so the final tally of potential descendants is 448k.
then you can discount off a few of them if they died early/as single/unmarried didnt have kids.
then you can discount off a few other by if they emigrate.
then there is the other legal clauses that would exempt some

but lets continue with the extremes of the 448k
now in ~1837 the budget of compensation was £20m($100m) for 40k slaves
which breaks down as £500 per slave($2500)

which is about $68k at todays inflation = 68k*448k=$30,464,000,000
so at the very most extreme. $30.4billion payout

now here is the thing.
this $30b is based on extremes of just a loose 'pay all'/'max exageration
the actual number of unpaid original slaves will probably be 10x less.
the the amount of inter-racial 'births' were low in the 1800's so that would reduce the amount.
EG if only 200 were not compensated and 100 were male and 100 were female. and they got together to have kids.. thats only 200kids.
meaning the decendant ripple effect is much lower
EG 200kids where 110 marry compensated citizens and 90 marry uncompensated africans stil in hiding.
suddenly only 90 families become uncompensated. so 180kids.
so 180 kids in 1887 then have 2 kids from within the uncompensated community.
=360kids in 1910
=720kids in 1935
=1440kids in 1960
=2880kids in 1985
=5760kids in 2010
which is $68k*5760=$391.680.000

now also between 1837-2010 there were a few battles/world wars. so some 18yo african slave decendants may have gone to war and then died before having a chance to  get married and have kids.
so the number can be very much well under $300m
and thats before other clauses are accounted for

so.. yes i was fair and showed the math of the extreme conspiracy tin foil hat numbers($30b) and i showed a more realistic $300m.

as for the 'irish' they were compensated, and given jobs. the irish slaves didnt really suffer hense why the irish are super happy about their heritage/integration into american life.
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completely separate from the 1837 issue
even in the 1940's1970's some african americans went to war in WW2 and vietnam and were promised citizenship and compensation when they got home. they didnt

heck its even a problem today.
if a non-native joins the army on the promise of citizenship. its not guaranteed after they finish their service.(more of a mexican issue these days
just google veteran deported)

if you actually read the bill being proposed. you will see that it says they want to form a task force of under a dozen investigators to look at old tax records, old land records, old insurance policies and old police reports.

yep they kept records.
they want to first see if they can identify any 'victims' left out of previous compensations and also any reports where people were harmed, harrassed or treated as illegals even after being endorsed as being made a citizen

so its not a just pay out any claim
so again for emphasis. slaveowners had insurance policies on slaves. yep they paid a premium where if the slave ran off the slave owner got paid.. so the insurance company(lets call them police) would try finding the slaves and return them to the slaveowner to prevent paying out insurance.
the word police. comes from the origins of 'policies of insurance'.
yep the very first polce force were slave hunters. thats why people of colour have anger towards the police because of their sworded history
and yep some of these records still exist in some form.

this year a taskfork is being made to look over all these records and other records from other departments and get a list of any 'victims'
this includes things like descendants who are treated as illegal immigrants recently even if they can prove their ancestry back to a 'freed' citizen

this is something they want to do and then if any claims come that meet the criteria. and then have it all dealt with and over with by 2023.

yes im my view it is just a 'woke' campaign to say they done something. yes it will be a small cost. but after that point they can finally say.. just shut up and stop crying, all victims have been compensated, lets finally draw a line in the sand and move on... now get on with your life and cry about 2020 things not 1820-1920 things that you were not even personally around to have personally suffered from

badecker you have no clue

first of all covid has not been around for years to be a thing that everyone already has.
i know you want to believe that herd immunity is already a thing but it is not

also people having tests thinking they may have it (wasting time) actually find out they dont have it
yep UK for example does ~250,000 tests a day but only finds ~6500 positives

if you do the math of how many people have had it. its only a few percent..
.. why.. because its a novel virus.. yep its new
people have not had it before so their immune system is not programmed to recognise it instantly which makes this novel virus a problem.

the whole point of a vaccine is to give people a safer version of the virus that does not replicate but does look like the virus. so that your body sees an invader. attack it safely without being overwhelmed. and then remembers to look out for things similar to it next time

in short you get herd immune by vaccination safely by not having the version that replicates and destroys your cells

and by the way. i dont get income from this thing. my interest is purely in the research/learning/logic
the funny thing is your the one trying to sell products to people
heck your advertising a big pharma product in your footer

badecker you are wrong

the PCR test is not a yes or no. the PCR test is a count of how much.
this is why there are false negatives because when people have it in the early stage before symptoms and get tested the count is low. so they say its negative. but days later when the virus multiplies it shows that they did have it but the PCR declared it as negative because of low count

those having a low count are those asymptomatic people. the ones with symptoms obviously have an high count which is why they test is very accurate for those.
the inaccuracy of a positive test is not in the count. but in the small exceptions where the test viles got cross contaminated in the process. but this sortof thing of 'bad batches' got sorted out months ago. so positive tests of actual symptomatic people is very high accuracy

again if your asymptomatic you probably wont show as positive which is why most testing centres think its a waste of lab time testing asymptomatic people.
because they could show as negative one day but then progress into symptoms and be positive the next so it just wasted a good test over for no reason

but one thing is sure.
if you have a virus and you have symptoms. the test wil display that. so stop fooling around thinking a measles test will show everyone has measles.. thats not how it works and you have had months and months to find that out. but yet again your ignorance has stopped you.

next time you want to write something. research it using science reports. not conspiracy scripts. you have been linked plenty of them over the last few months. so spend some time actually reading the science reports and less time on conspiracy sites

yep history forgets the irish slaves. but thats because they got well compensated and were offered jobs to become police officers.
yep there is actually a irish cop stereotype for a reason

that said to add to my previous posts point. the number of slaves in just california back in those days was not high.
yes 4mill US wide but maybe only 4-6k in california. because california was using them mostly for the goldrush era which says only 4k african americans were slaves in that.(task force is ordered to check records to get accurate counts/identify ancestry)
so its not like its going to compensate millions of people, just thousands. so not a big budget item to cry about the treasury spend amount on
so dont cry about the tax spend

kindergarden/elemenary/primary school kids stick locally in a town with other kids for years. however college students spread across the country thus they have different immune blueprints. this is why 'fresher flu' is an actual thing. when people start college they are coming from everywhere and mingling with strangers for first time. this means they are good spreaders

but younger kids still get sick. and the worry is the spreading of their snotty noses onto their families.
college students are normally locked in dorms where they dont pass it onto family because they dont live with family.

in short there are many factors at play. but by no means should we consider kids immune/unspreadable

kid by default have good/clean heart and lungs. no sticky blood and very efficient immuno reaction. so they can handle it better without being hospitalised/dying. but this does not mean they are not snot factories that dont cough and sneeze over others. so they are affected
a study in the early months showed that of all hospitalisations of covid 2% were people under 18

the hospitalisation rate of kids is lower but its not zero.
yes death rates is near zero. but what people dont realise is there is a whole wide gap of issues between asymptomatic->death
the more coughing and sneezing=more spread potential.
the whole issue with kids are more prone to cough in hand or wipe nose with hand and then touch things. and then other people touch that thing thenfood or mouth .. = more spread risk
and also they cough and sneeze on peope without thinking. = higher spread risk
the main concern is that kids can cough and sneeze and spread it to far more families and then affect those families vulnerable people.

its like saying dont worry about kids doing drugs. but worry that theres alot more kids being street dealers harming more people

anyway put it this way, in the UK ~13k die of common flu generally other years.
its only been 6 months of noted infections in UK and not as many hotzones as america. and with lockdown to curb the spread. in those 6 months UK has already had 41k deaths of covid. so its like a ~6kcommon flu vs 41kcovid 6month ratio. so yes covid is worse.(actual number is over 48k covid but they only now want to count those dying within 30 days)

now if you think about all the snotty kids that just have a fever and cry for cookies and warm milk when they are sick. multiply that by that same factor. and realise that many kids do get sick.

yes the number of kids that die of common flu is near 0 and death of covid of kids is just a few more. but thats no reason to then think a 70yo guy is immortal because only 1 baby died.. of covid
anyway from march till june in england and wales
age         death
<1          1
01-04      0
05-09      0
10-14      2
15-19      8
20-24      20
25-29      47
30-34      76
35-39      116
40-44      216
45-49      412
50-54      772
55-59      1,329
60-64      1,929
65-69      2,551
70-74      4,258
75-79      6,189
80-84      8.910
85-89      9,605
90+        10,295

but these numbers are still low even when its just england/wales and only till june. because if you look at the amount of excess deaths of other years. this year is much higher then 46k excess deaths.
think about it. when lockdown happened. less cars on road=less traffic accidents. so .. that should have meant less deaths.. but its still over 46k excess deaths even with less deaths from other causes.
less industrial accidents because people work from home/furloughed. should have also meant less deaths.. but we still have more deaths then normal

so i would love to see jetcash explain that. and then try to explain his logic of how he thinks he is immortal because no 5yo died.
the only logical assumption is that he only hangs around with 5yo to be 'herding' himself to immortality by hanging with kids