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1021  Economy / Economics / Re: Setting up financial structures before going into the family way on: December 21, 2023, 10:48:17 PM
Money dey good for marriage no doubt but e get the one wey still be the icing on the cake, na that one be understanding. Hmmm my brother if money plenty for marriage and the communication and understanding are not there, na just like nothing good or joyous in the marriage. In this case if the woman see say the man get money but dem no dey too get understanding and better communication, the woman go find somebody wey go dey make her happy outside while she go dey carry the man money dey take care of another man.

So money without understanding, you go still see couple wey no dey happy but make understanding dey make money still join am, that one make sense.
1022  Local / Politics and society (Naija) / Re: What opportunities do you see around you? on: December 21, 2023, 09:06:59 PM

Why then are people not going into farming? Why do we cry about unemployment when many people have lands they can cultivate in the villages yet lying fallow. I truly see a very big opportunity in farming.
 

Why people don't go into farming is simply because of herds men. We dey talk like say we don forget say herds men dey carry their cows enter people farm go chop all the things wey farmers suffer plant. In some cases self the herders dey uproot cassava by themselves put for ground for the animals to dey chop. If them enter any farm all the things dey finish of course we know say the cow dey plenty waka. These herders dey carry knife, gun and ready to kill any vigilante wey try to chase dem.

What about insecurity wey farmers dey face, raping of women for farm, kidnapping etc.

All these food shortages and problem started with Buhari because him no gree stop herders to dey waka enter people farm, so na the consequences be this wey dey go on like this.


There are many other areas that present huge opportunities that people are not tapping into. My mindset has changed so much lately as I have realised that Nigeria is like an untapped treasure. I'm from South South Nigeria and I can only say about my area. Those from other regions can narrate what they consider as opportunity in their place.

Which other ways my brother wey no be bonkering wey dey illegal. To do genuine business for here to trade and buy no be easy thing again, if you no take time your capital go waka with inflation. The only opportunity wey me I dey see na online business wey you just only need your smartphone and data.
1023  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Risk management and responsible gaming on: December 21, 2023, 08:22:24 PM
Without realizing that a lot of gamblers fall into gambling addiction because the government lacks in providing job opportunities for these gamblers that's why they turn into gambling to find a source of income.
So in other words, are you now blaming lack of job opportunities as the reason why people gamble? Are you??. Because if that's the case, how about those who have a high paying job and yet still gambles, what have you to say about them? Example, the likes of "Michael Jordan, Kerry Packer, Tony Bloom, Bill Benter, Edward Thorp & Alan Woods" who are all self-made billionaires and millionaires, and yet still gambles and are proud to be known and associated with anything  gambling. Because the truth of the matter is that while some gambles for money, a decent percentage of people also gambles for the fun of the game.

When the talk about if lack of jobs is the reason for gambling to an extent it means the increase of numbers of gamblers can well be attributed to lack of jobs, loneliness of not having money to take to another activities for fun like visiting of recreational activities, swimming pools, site seeing etc. All the big names mentioned are not able to make up the huge numbers of gamblers, they are professional gamblers who most times they only want to keep their names afloat and keep being popular to get endorsements because if their names are not heard they keep losing business. They therefore catch fun by gambling but most gamblers making up the huge numbers of gamblers are doing gambling for the profit that they are looking for.
1024  Economy / Gambling / Re: Responsible gambling on: December 21, 2023, 07:29:06 PM

Take regular breaks especially when your losses are more than your wins.give yourself time to recover cause it's all about maintaining a healthy balance...I hope this helps someone out there

Despite this thread becoming a routine but do you think a gambler who takes a break from his losses and then comes back to continue playing the way he has been playing that caused him the losses will have any difference in his output? No he won't because you don't expect to get different result doing same thing.

I was probably you would say change your strategy after the break and try if there will be an improvement in the profit output. To continue in same pattern gives same failing results.
1025  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Poverty change people on: December 21, 2023, 05:39:07 PM
...a caring and loving guy before is now always bittered, the best I can do, which I did was to introduce them to Bitcoin and cryptocurrency.
Poverty is a disease that changes people.

Sure there is a way that some people can behave when they don't have money, it is normal and understandable because they say an hungry man is a angry man.

It is a good thing that you have introduced them to bitcoin and crypto, perhaps they can tap into it and support their selves by investing according to what you have shown them. But one thing about the people who are seen as poor, they don't want to see opportunity in certain things, they always blame government and want government to provide their needs even though it is understandable that government should provide certain support for personal and economic growth. The poor has a mentality that they always criticize and don't see positivity in some innovation, so they might still be skeptical about the opportunities you have shown them in bitcoin only if they see you are earning through it. They doubt alot on opportunities locked in bitcoin, so you still need to guide and encourage your friends.
1026  Economy / Economics / Re: I spoken with very old and smart person. About economy and future on: December 21, 2023, 05:01:32 PM
With the way things are, I think the only thing China and Russia need to do is to play the waiting game and the West will self destroy itself, if they continue on this destructive path. I have issue with China dethroning America has the world power because of centralisation of power in the country and they are likely going to spread it across the world with time, but I think China has this good virtues of taken their time, they will continue to wait for the best time that America will be powerless to save itself from the inevitable

China has good virtues though especially in trade but that is not all that they need to take over power from America. Power is not served on a platter of gold, except their is a power shift through if there is new world order perhaps caused by WW3 but even with that America will not seat back without fighting back. Another challenge that will greet China is language barrier. Mandarin is not widely spoken like English. The major speakers of the language is Hong Kong, Taiwan, Singapore and few other places in batches of population. So language barrier will always be a hindrance if China were to become world power leader.
1027  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Local Base Or International Based Online Casino on: December 21, 2023, 03:58:01 PM


but the problem is that in my country there are no local online casinos, there are only many local sports betting sites and I highly doubt that in the many physical casinos that exist in my country they have this game or that they add this game, that's because it is a game that poor people play and in my country's physical casinos, very rich people come in, and it's a place for the rich to relax. So unfortunately I can say with certainty that my country's traditional games will never be added to casinos. I don't approve of cockfights, but seeing that they changed from cockfights to this new game somehow made me happy, because the cocks will get a break from the bad treatment they were subjected to in those cockfights.


I will not be surprised if this local game find its way in online casino because some other traditional games have been modified and found their way in online casino, poker included.

However I don't agree that this game is exclusive to the poor alone because even the rich weren't born rich most times, they have metamorphose from poor to rich so they must have been playing the game in their neighbourhood . And even as the rich, they relax with this game because it has also been modernized because initially it was played on sand   Grin
1028  Economy / Speculation / Re: Btc dump to 39600 on: December 21, 2023, 02:34:58 PM
Now the price is back above 44k. The short-term correction made some people think that the price will continue to fall. But in just a few days the situation has changed again in a positive direction. Volatility in the market is a good thing. It may indicate that the trend will continue for the time being.

Some speculators have said perhaps that the bull run might have started with the way that the correction from $39k back to now 44k happened. The market volatility is beginning to get high by this December and if that closes this way on the high it will mean a very positive growth for next year before halving. I believe it is still time for DCA.
1029  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is Michael Jordan a gambling addict ? on: December 21, 2023, 01:17:12 PM


He takes care of his family, far from broke and gambling brings him entertainment.. so my question, would MJ be considered an addict?  I argue he's not.  He just loves to do it, but any negative effects may be literally zero ..


You don't have to show you don't take care of your family or it proven to be so that you don't take care of your family before you are considered to be an addict gambler. Family may be someone's first love and then second thing becomes gambling or other things that you enjoy doing and if that thing you like to do affects your other area of life or don't allow you a concentration to balance off all that you do then you are addicted to that thing that shields you off from that other aspects of your life. Even when you allow your work to take you away from other part of your life then you are addicted to it.

So in the case of Mj, he can be said to be addicted if he allows gambling to control his other aspects of life., giving money out to family is not the only thing important in the family but quality time also matters, so does he give quality time to the family? That should also be important to know if he is addicted above his family.
1030  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Has gambling ever whispered you with different strategic prediction measures? on: December 21, 2023, 12:31:28 PM

A bad thing with gambling is that it can cause stress in some occasions and stress leads to bad decisions. So if you can avoid stress and better enjoy your sessions, I am all for it 🤞

It is that stress and fear that will make a gambler want to close their eyes for a pick because they have played more times without success so they want to take a leap of fate. Like you said if it is working then why not especially for a luck base game like slot. You can't necessarily bet on sports with your eyes closed because you have to take a good analysis of the game you want to bet and judge each information on the both teams.
1031  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you think that this is aperfect analogy of how gambling addiction starts? on: December 20, 2023, 09:59:14 PM
If they only think about winning millions by gambling from the start, they will experience disappointment because gambling will not give them that easily. They will lose more than they win at gambling games, even until they run out of money. They can get money from gambling but cannot get the winnings every day because more losses will come than they think. That's what will make them deeper into gambling until finally they become addicted to gambling, and they don't realize that they are addicted to gambling. If they want to make money, they should look elsewhere and not from gambling because that won't work for most people, so they shouldn't try too hard to get it.
The allure of easy money is simply too strong for some people, but what they fail to realize is that what they consider to be easy money is in fact the most difficult way to make money that exists, as if you get a job and work hard then you will get a pay for your efforts, but in gambling since the odds are against you and if you bet for long enough then it becomes a certainty that you will lose money instead of making any, and yet there are many people every day that try to make money this way.

The truth is that everyone wants money and easy money at that and most have seen gambling to be able to do that and that is why we are having more gamblers this time yet many are not succeeding. Gambling winnings is only temporary. If you win today you may not win tomorrow and you will need to use the money won to keep playing until you have another win but being unlucky is usually the case that you have to go back to deposit more money.

Hoping to make huge earnings from gambling is skin to the reason for the bizarre news we get concerning gambling loses on this forum. If gamblers manage their bankroll properly, those cases of outrageous loses may not happen. Gambling is not a get rich quick scheme, it is most difficult to have a consistent win and if you don't have consistent winning you will earn up losing what you have won and make new deposit to continue playing.
1032  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gamblers trickily claims they wins the bet while they never did. on: December 20, 2023, 07:30:35 PM
Don't be deceived, not every gamblers who actually claims that they won really won.
Pure facts. I know that most gamblers fake their wins. And most time it is because they have had a big win in the past on one or more gambling occasions so there is this pride or should i say hierarchy they would want to maintain. In a situation where they have been receiving praises from other gamblers based on how good they are in gambling. They would love to maintain that reputation this is why most of them lie about wining when they did not.


Also on another way they can pretend to have won if they have not been winning at all or for a longtime so that people would not think they are total losers in gambling. This is particular of newbies, they may feel ashamed of playing for a longtime without recording any winning and when friends insult them alot they plan to show winning tickets of other people and what is even funny is they can search online for big wins and showcase on their social media handles as their own wins. That is deceipt they keep doing until they win theirs.
1033  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Which one is fun, watching with bet or without a bet? on: December 20, 2023, 06:30:11 PM

If a person is a fan of a team, they will bet on their favorite team regardless of the outcome. In case of success, the fan will experience double joy both in the form of moral satisfaction and material reward. Here the statement "to be together with the team both in joy and in sorrow" will be true.

But this is not always the case. I see some gamblers who have made their bet against their team because they know that the opposite team is in better form than theirs. Some highly patriotic fans would not bet against their team but prefer to leave them out if they observe they are not tipped to win the opposite side because they know adding their team to their bet would make them lose totally. So it depends on an individual, not everyone is patriotic and fanatic to follow sheepishly to bet in favour of their club when they know they would lose the match.
1034  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Has gambling ever whispered you with different strategic prediction measures? on: December 20, 2023, 02:47:17 PM

Then probably sometimes you want to try a new trick by closing your eyes while picking your predictions or hitting the slots.

Well I think such kind of gambling may be in traditional setting where someone would be asked to close their eyes to have a try on something like jumping a particular hurdle while your eyes are closed, walking on a slim platform while eyes are closed. If I understand it the way you put it but I don't know how it is played in casino with such kind of strategy, except it is closing your eyes to click on a particular betting option, otherwise it is not really a popular stuff with gamblers to close their eyes on casinos. Maybe it happens on a game show to win a prize in the deep, slot games. Those who close their eyes in their bet are probably tired of conscious effort with opening their eyes yet losing, so they would try another strategy of closing their eyes and relying on luck only.
1035  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Ever heard about financing a gambler? on: December 20, 2023, 02:08:56 PM


What you said is also true that a good principle is not to ask anyone to pay for the gambling we play. Using our own money and our own risk is better than looking for risks with other people's money that we don't know whether there will be problems or not in the future, it's best to avoid anyone who want to finance the gambling we do or we finance other people's gambling. If you don't have money, don't gamble.

People who go to others to finance their gambling bets must have known them one way or the other and usually they are people who are friends that gamble together and that is the reason they approach them for such. It is not bad to ask someone to finance your bet, in fact that could be a business because there is always a sharing formula for it as there is also someone bringing the knowledge and another person providing the money to finance the idea that is known as the prediction or stake. So despite that you don't have money, you can get someone to finance your prediction. In fact I have seen someone that people always rely on his predicted game to gamble on it so you can also see that as financing the prediction.
1036  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What's your view on this? Is it fun or addiction? on: December 20, 2023, 01:38:18 PM
I don't see it as a message for fun, it could lead people to believe that pursuing gambling relentlessly is the key to winning. However, this is not the case. Rather than continuing to gamble and potentially accumulating debt, it's important to take a break after losing a certain amount of money. These words are reflective of addiction and should not be taken seriously by those seeking control over their gambling activities. Following this message and making gambling a mandatory activity every weekend will only lead to negative outcomes.

Unfortunately it is going to mislead some new comers in their midst because it is a WhatsApp group and not necessarily a P2P communication, so before a member that is astray from following their joke would voice out on his falling into what they have posted, it would have been a disaster for him. Therefore, it is better that they redirect their chat to the real advise on how to gamble and also have fun which is by a very reduced percentage in the stake and not to go borrow money when you have lost just to chase money not easy to recover.
1037  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What's your view on this? Is it fun or addiction? on: December 20, 2023, 12:47:06 PM




I'm surprised I didn't see a laughing emoji on this chat because it is just funny but made in a serious manner plus hugs as if there are friends online. How do any serious gambler take this with a pinch of salt.

Old gambler that have fallen and reason would understand that such chat or phototype never represent gambling truth but it is funny that newbies will keep falling to get a loan for betting.

Do you see this as addiction or just catching of fun?

Mind you, we just enjoy the moment and might just joke around with people making predictions based on the teams,  they love but we are mostly gamblers at our different ends.


Despite it being for fun that such was posted on your WhatsApp group, there will be gullible people too that will fall for the things written on it. They are mainly things written in pay groups to lure in participants for payment.
1038  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Stop the self entitlement claims on others gamblers winnings. on: December 20, 2023, 10:43:21 AM

But when your own time comes, and you get your vehicle and everything, this same set of people will come and start asking you to borrow your vehicle for a while, they have seems to forget all the maltreatment they did with you, one thing I though its just been shameless of them but I was wrong, I found out that they are trying to outsmart you, like indirectly calling you a fool.

Human beings are of different types and they exhibit different types of character, some are selfish, jealous and envious. Those that have good heart are always taken for a fool, they are override just because of their nature. But however, keep doing good for the reward will always come in ways that we don't expect. Don't measure bad with bad but pay good to bad.


I am sure that the people that feel entitled the most are those who will never allow anyone to do the same to them, it is all intentionally, forcing you to take a bow, pretending to be normal, as if it's the way it should be, let their own time comes, they won't do the same.

You are right because some gamblers when they win would not allow you to know that there ticket is in green because they don't want to give you anything from the win not even a bottle of drink. They know if you are aware of the winning then they would have guilty conscience to give something out of the much that they have won so they would surreptitiously go for the cashout and then avoid you for the moment.
1039  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The madness of gambling addicts. on: December 20, 2023, 08:45:13 AM

Family factors may be able to help gambling addicts to stop temporarily if their financial condition is unstable or insufficient, but it depends on the attitude of the gambling addict himself. Sometimes there are also selfish gamblers who only think about themselves and only want to carry out their gambling activities so that they can do more. setting aside money for gambling rather than thinking about their family, there are rarely addicts who can really stop even though their financial condition is unstable and there are even those who are desperate to take out loans just to continue their activities this is for chronic addicts. But for ordinary addicts it's normal and they can still do it advised that they can stop due to various factors and one of them may be to meet the needs of the family.

On my point it is not sometimes but most of the time, gambling addicted individual are selfish becuase they are just caring with what they want and they will push to continue even they already wasting money when they are in sessions, I think people who have this kind of situation needs to continue being close to their love ones, the pressure that those people provide will help to realize that there's already a problem that needed to address.

Just need to make sure that the person that have that kind of issue is willing to submit his situation and have that self-will to work with anyone who's giving aid to help.

The real gambling addicts are those who never take care of their family despite how much failure they encounter, they still continue to gamble while neglecting their family , that is really crazy and the height of addiction. Those class of people need serious support from their families because they can't help themselves anymore. Some additions go as far as taking up loan on behalf of their wives without her knowledge just because their fingers are biting them to gamble yet at the end nothing positive will come of it leaving the family in debt. When this loan is consistently done then it sets the family into financial mess .
1040  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Which type of gambling have more gambling addicts ? on: December 20, 2023, 04:54:09 AM
 
Now are days I see much or all this in house gamblers becoming addicted and acting weird over gambling results, and walking down into some betting shop, you will see most of those gamblers spending their whole day in the gambling shop, which made me have the above question. I know any form of gambling can produce gambling addicts, but among all, there is one that is most common, which is what I want to hear from others.

With this scenario, you can then agree that soccer betting addiction could be the number one because soccer is more popular among the youths and adults, I believe it is the most played gambling game and if it is the most that means it is the more likely that people will get addicted to.

The reason that soccer will be the most addicted game is that it is available both offline and online making it open to those who play offline to also play online through the casino but the casino games are not readily available offline. Moreover, a good number of offline gamblers may not be playing any game online making the chances to visit or play casino games limited. Therefore, the chances of more addiction in football gambling is higher with the high rate of participants in football gambling.
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