It should happen, but so far, it's not happening. I've been keeping an eye on the promising coins that are available on other exchanges (ADA, STEEM, etc) as well as on the promising coins that are part of the list I've shared (includes WAN, WTC, etc). So far, the difference ain't very noticeable. But then again, there are still 82 days left, and US traders can freely trade all these coins till then. IMO, we'll get to see the noticeable difference when we're close to September. 90 days is still like an eternity in the crypto industry. Nobody knows which coins will be listed on Binance US and which ones won't. Until then, the market can play dumb. Binance definitely likes to skirt the law and if there is any legal grey area, they will exploit it. They may end up listing lots of coins that will surprise us. However, I smell some real trouble for the coins I've listed in OP. See, Binance Jersey was launched back in January. After all these (six) months, no coin other than ETH, BTC, and BNB is listed there (LTC got listed there today). Similarly, we'll probably only see the very few majors in the start at the US version of Binance, and getting the listing of other sh!tcoins (especially the ones that aren't a part of top ten projects by marketcap) can take years.
That's a real possibility. However, I have a feeling Binance plans to make a much bigger splash with their US launch. I don't think it'll be as limited as Binance Jersey.
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Wouldn't it be funny if every country refused to do it - the entire globe would blacklist itself......
Sounds nice, but the only countries still considered "high risk" by the FATF and who are wholly refusing to implement its AML guidelines, are North Korea and Iran. Think about that. The rest of the world is falling in line, and the only holdouts are the world pariah states who are constantly the victims of economic sanctions and political threats from world superpowers.
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Those corporations aren't tax evading. They're tax avoiding. They have enough lawyers to know that whatever they pull stands up to scrutiny even if it's offensive. That's perfectly legal and the conditions to foster it are created by legislators in the first place. If it's unintentional then that reflects poorly on their thoroughness.
As simple as the bold, they have enough lawyers...it's just a PITA to deal with large corporations because even if they are wrong they can make it a long drawn out process where in the end it took more time/effort/money to go after them than the government receives for doing it... IRS: We are auditing you Them: Here are a few hundred thousand transactions have fun dealing with them Lawyers: Here's more BS for you to look through I'm guessing you've never been on the wrong side of government agencies before. You have it backwards. The IRS is happy to have a long drawn out process -- they will add financial penalties all along the way and even threaten you with criminal proceedings and prison time. You can't just drop endless undecipherable papers on the IRS. If you don't provide exactly what they want in the format they require, they will ignore you, say your company is noncompliant, and move forward with enforcement actions against you.
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Calling the “threat of criminal and terrorist misuse of virtual assets” a “serious and urgent,” FATF says it will give countries 12 months to abide by the guidelines, with a review set for June 2020. Hopefully services can take the full year before fully implementing this. In fact, they'll probably need to because this is quite an onerous undertaking for exchanges. This scope of information sharing requires a big infrastructure that needs to be built from scratch. I'm not sure if lawmakers will understand that. It's just a recommendation and not following them won't lead to being listed as a 'toxic' country for foreign investment. It's just the USA trying to spread the fear if a country doesn't want to obey. The USA has lost credibility, a lot of countries are laughing at them. It's not just the US. In fact, all the G20 countries already publicly affirmed their commitment to implementing these rules. The FATF blacklist has been a very effective tool in forcing countries into compliance. This works because local governments will heavily pressure exchanges to comply, for fear of being blacklisted by the global financial system.
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Cryptocurrency doesn't have to be direct "competition" for retail and investment banks. Maybe it is for central banks who issue their own currency, but not so much for depository institutions like Bank of America. They don't care what currency you use; they just want to find a way to monetize it. People wanted Venmo, so the banks created Zelle. If people start using cryptocurrency, they'll create depository accounts and an internal network for instant payments that cuts out fees. There will always be a niche for this because people want convenience and ease of use -- even if it is antithetical to what Bitcoin is.
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Banks with no doubt will shill Libra with their most effective and expensive marketing. That's how I only see it. Legacy banks want no part of it. Libra only threatens their market share for international remittances, as customers will move away from bank wires and towards the cheaper payments offered by Libra. Companies like Stripe and PayPal might be along for the ride, but legacy banks will probably be pushing their own competing products.
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Ordinarily, I would ignore this news since Russia never follows through on these rumors. This time, Russian lawmakers revised the bill in response to an "order" from the FATF to clarify and expand the scope of the bill: According to the report, the FATF has recently ordered Russian lawmakers to expand the terminology of the federal bill on the regulation of crypto assets, requiring that the country legislate major industry terms such as cryptocurrencies and bitcoin (BTC). Governments seem to be taking these FATF guidelines extremely seriously. I wonder what services like Bitmex are going to do.
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This actually highlights Bitcoin's strengths over centrally issued currencies like Facebook's Libra coin. There's no central choke point where governments can target Bitcoin and force changes upon it. Facebook, on the other hand, can easily be pressured to the whims of governments.
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Lithuania is preparing new rules to govern [blank] transactions, requiring businesses to prove the identity of clients,
Once the rules come into effect, any transactions worth over €1,000 ($1,127) involving [blank]— be it into or out of fiat or from one [blank] to another — will face stringent reporting requirements.
[blank] or similar businesses will have to gather identity information about the buyer, while large operations over €15,000 ($16,919) will oblige them to inform Lithuania’s Financial Crime Investigation Service.
remove cryptocurrency and bitcoin from this news (i placed [blank] in their place) and you can see this is not new for any country. this has been going on for as long as Anti Money Laundry laws existed. It was always the norm to treat money transmission -- like fiat wire transfers to and from exchanges -- that way. It was never the norm to treat trading and cryptocurrency transactions which don't involve fiat that way. The €1,000 threshold is also by far the lowest AML threshold I've ever seen in any law before. Clearly, KYC and reporting requirements vis-a-vis cryptocurrency are being drastically expanded. These standards are not being equally applied to other forms of payment, so we can't just write it off as "the same old AML laws as always."
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I still don't understand the logic. Why do they need separate platforms for US and non-US users? They are implementing KYC requirements for the US residents and that should do the job. If they create separate platforms, then the trade can get affected due to low volumes for the smaller altcoins. Or is there any legal issue against the sale of cryptocurrency by US citizens to non-US citizens? That should not be the case, as exchanges such as Bitstamp and Kraken does not force US users to trade on a separate platforms.
Bitstamp and Kraken don't offer many assets that could be deemed securities. That's the major distinction to make here. Binance has a much longer list of markets, including dozens of such tokens. The SEC doesn't want US investors accessing these markets. Bittrex has segregated US and international users onto different platforms -- and removed US investor access to lots of tokens -- for the same reason. It's not just about KYC requirements, although I'm pretty sure that'll be mandatory on the new US site as well.
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This is old news. Sherman introduced the bill over a month ago. He also has a very long history of trying to lambast Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies in Congress -- and he's been very unsuccessful at convincing anyone. I wouldn't worry about this bill, especially since many legislators at the state level are taking the opposite approach. This far more favorable cryptocurrency/token bill is more likely to pass, although I wouldn't get my hopes up for that, either.
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Bitcoin will still be harder to censor than Libra and its price won't be as stable, but investors and traders don't want stability, they make money with the market swings.
So Investors and traders will still favor Bitcoin, While Merchants will favor Libra.
So what is everyone's else thoughts?
Will one defeat the other or are they fighting in different rings and never shall they actually face off.
They aren't competitors. Libra is just a stablecoin launched on its own private/federated blockchain. Tether and USD Coin aren't competing with Bitcoin and neither is Libra. This is just Facebook's entry point into the global remittance market. Anyone who uses or values Bitcoin for its monetary properties, speculative value, censorship resistant and irreversible qualities, pseudonymous privacy, etc. will continue to prefer Bitcoin. Libra doesn't address those use cases at all.
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That means we don't need to leave binance and binance won in this fight with the gov. Cool.
I wouldn't say that. Binance is still allowing daily withdrawal limits up to 2 BTC from unverified accounts. At current prices, that's over $18,000. The new FATF rules (according to earlier drafts) will require KYC reporting at $1,000/€1,000. Sadly, Malta -- Binance's regulator -- is very unlikely to allow Binance to continue operating in this manner. We're already seeing governments enact the FATF draft rules before they are officially released. Lithuania just enacted regulations reflecting the new rules.
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I think this is anticipation so that fraud and money laundering cases can be detected easily. I think it is important to provide security to every user of financial services and protect citizens. maybe this is also part of the tax strategy, and every country has a different policy.
This is obviously in response to the upcoming FATF rules. The rules specify a $1,000 or €1,000 threshold which triggers stringent KYC requirements on both sender and receiver. That's why the Lithuanian regulations set a €1,000 threshold for reporting. The OP is probably correct that most countries will do the same thing in the near future.
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Nonetheless, time will tell us whenever atomic swaps will become a success or just another experiment/prototype. Just my thoughts ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) It will depend on how people swallow the increasing level of KYC and AML policies, because if people continue to not give a damn it's going to be hard for decentralized exchanges to actually gain ground. There's always going to be a big niche for privacy-oriented people who want to avoid KYC. I strongly believe that's one of the reasons Binance became as big as it did. After Bittrex began implementing mandatory KYC during summer 2017, most of their volume went to Binance. The main problem right now is usability. Decentralized trading will never compare to the efficiency, liquidity, order types, etc. that centralized exchanges can offer, but the gap between the two can be bridged somewhat.
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Thankfully, the head of the Congress is a Democrat. Democrats won't save us. It was a Democrat -- Congressman Brad Sherman -- who introduced a bill last month to ban people from using Bitcoin. Don't be fooled into thinking any regulation is good regulation. I doubt Sherman's bill will go anywhere, but whatever legislation is passed, we can expect cryptocurrency users and investors to experience increasing restrictions and reporting requirements.
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But my question still remains, why a common person should be worried?? If we are abiding laws, what's the issue in disclosing our identity to the exchanges and permit the exchanges reporr it back to the government??
For one thing, it's a breach of privacy. What's next, AML reporting every time someone spends $100? Where does it end? For another thing, data security is a major problem. Major companies are compromised everyday, losing customer data left and right. The more companies that have your KYC data, the more likely you are to have your data breached and your identity stolen. I know someone who had their identity stolen. He's been struggling with the fallout for several years now. His credit was ruined because of it. I would never wish that on anybody.
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You only need to hack BTC.com, ANTPool and ViaBTC and attack bitcoin network with their hardware. Will it be sucessfull 51% attack or I miss something? Miners would withdraw their hashpower from the attacking pools fairly quickly. Is such an attack theoretically possible? Yes, but it would be short-lived and wouldn't have lasting effects.
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At times like this I'm so happy that I don't live in the US. and people won’t be able to get away with it for long. This looks like a hint that they are still trying to set up the surveillance and those who didn't pay their crypto taxes in the last 10 years are fine ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) If I were a US trader I'd start packing before they get comfortable with tracing transactions and wallets and connecting them with names. There's probably still lots of lower hanging fruit they can go after. Proving cases with wallet analysis and non-KYC services is going to be much more challenging in a jury trial than Coinbase users who made 5-7 figure profits trading over years and never paid their taxes. From the statistics the IRS released about Bitcoin capital gain reporting vs. the number of high volume Coinbase users, there are lots of people relying on the notion that the IRS won't audit them.
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Normally the transfer takes around 2 hours from Electrum to Coinbase.
It has been 5 hours now and the transfer from Electrum to Coinbase is still unconfirmed. It shows the transaction is pending in my coinbase so I didn't send it to the wrong wallet.
Should I be worried or just be patient?
About six hours ago, there was a huge spike in transactions on the network. 15+ MB in transactions have been added to the mempool since then. You can check the network stats here. Is the transaction RBF-enabled? If so, you can bump the fee up. It'll probably confirm eventually as is, but the network is really congested right until you get above the 50 satoshi/byte level.
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