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1161  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How can gambling help you with your life? on: August 01, 2017, 09:57:18 AM
Hey! Good day i really need some answers because its about gambling in your life and other people are playing for it with heart and i just thought that how can gambling help you with your life? and do you gain something from it? does it help you to be wise or worst your attitude will change.. i need answers please!

Since it is a way for entertainment, its better than smoking crack as a recreational time-killer.
Though being addicted to both would likely put you to a darker path.

Just don't gamble too much.
Yes when we are not gambling too much then we will not have any gambling problem and I believe this will be more than enough help we can get from gambling even we are going for gambling.

In my opinion avoiding gambling problems must be the very big help we can do to ourselves. Because honestly be could not find the any significant help from gambling but avoiding gambling problems will be very big advantage for any gambler as why not we consider it as a big help from gambling.
gamble only the mount that you can really afford in the worst case you lost it all. otherwise you would force yourself to keep gambling even you have nothing left and doing something non sense like stealing to get money to gamble, cheating etc. now do you think it's a helpful thing? no of course it's not , bad things happened instead isn't it?
1162  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Now a days Bitcoin is going to Became More Valuable Than Gold on: August 01, 2017, 09:39:22 AM
You really can't do that comparison. I believe that both bitcoin and gold can co-exist and while bitcoin can die at any time, Its not the case for gold. It's being there for thousands of years and I see no reason on why It should disappear now and If you really wanted to compare then you should take a look at the value of gold in circulation ($7 trillion).
of course there is a reason , even a strong reason about how the fork causing chain split could really harmful for bitcoin existence. investor has no interest left in bitcoin , they might could make a comeback but for now under current condition they are mostly looking for safe way to cash their bitcoin out. value mean nothing when there is low volume , a small number ony that use bitcoin.
1163  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Benefits from Gambling on: August 01, 2017, 09:29:20 AM
The main benefits of gambling for me :
- Reduce stress of daily activites.
- Killing boredom on my spare time
- Poker games give me some fun.
- Profit if I win, but I dont regret if I lose because I know my own limit.
- Meet new friends from different countries.

all of those list are basically about to get entertained in other word. there is people who looking for serious career through gambling and thre's mo harm to do that i guess. as long as you really ready for every single consequences you might get later. not a promising one , but once you successfully make it happen it could be thousands better than doing other things.
1164  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: It is not worth it, right? on: August 01, 2017, 08:23:21 AM
I strongly disagree that gambling is worth it, it was intended for just a fun play but some wanted to benefit more on gambling. So I really think it's not worth it.
Agreed that gambling is just for fun. Not just for sin. It can make you rich in a time or it can make you poor in a time it is depended on luck so we can call it fun. It is just a game not a sin like drugs etc. Because by playing gambling we learn a lot of things we gain some experience where we can learn from mistakes as well so I think gambling is the right option.
some religion rules have a reason make it as a sin, but let's keep that part it's personal matter. something like gambling when you do it repeatedly in regular time could make you get addicted. that's what meke things not worth. but if you think you are cool enough to not play it in rushed. i think it would remain worth to looking for your luck someday to win big and walk away like a boss.
1165  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gift For Kid on: August 01, 2017, 08:06:09 AM
I went to store to buy a toy for my kid and I was surprised to see this "toy"



What surprised me was that "+8" sign. While gambling is not allowed for persons under 18, toys like this are pretty much allowed.

In my honest opinion that sign should be "+18" and no one should be allowed to sell this to kids.

I mean, seriously? Would you buy this for your kid?
This is just an error for sure instead of putting 18+ they putted 8+ which is really an inappropriate thing for our kids and we should really not buy these kind of toys because this will mold them to be a gambler at earliest age for sure.I dont know why these kind of thing have been legalized without thinking on what would be the possible effects on young minds.
i don't think it was an error , or the +8 sign supposed to age restrictions. i don't know really . but you can found a lot of toys like that with various sign like this one with +3 sign , people might just think it's crazy to see this adult stuff in a toys store .



I went to store to buy a toy for my kid and I was surprised to see this "toy"



What surprised me was that "+8" sign. While gambling is not allowed for persons under 18, toys like this are pretty much allowed.

In my honest opinion that sign should be "+18" and no one should be allowed to sell this to kids.

I mean, seriously? Would you buy this for your kid?

Use this to teach mathematics to the kid. It is just a game of chance. In fact, maybe it is better to educate them early  Smiley

sounds like a wise argument , it's just doesn't makes sense for most of people.
1166  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you set up limits for yourself? on: August 01, 2017, 07:41:39 AM
well you should set a limit if you can follow through , I know no matter how I try I always go above my limits because well, gambling is addictive Grin. so I just gave up on gambling entirely since I was making more losses than gain . As far as I'm concerned setting a limit doesn't really make a difference to someone who is very much addicted to gambling.
that's better actually rather than have to wait something worse happened to you. just make sure you really quit gambling as based on people experiences it wasn't easy at all to give up, stay away and quit gambling forever. it's the biggest challenge of your new chapter of life, a tough decision too. gambling are too good to be true when it comes to about making profit.
1167  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling with altcoins on: August 01, 2017, 07:29:56 AM
I don't see why people can't see Monero as the perfect choice for this kind of thing.  It's the best implementation of an anonymous cryptocurrency and it has one of the best, if not at par, with the Bitcoin Core developers in the space.

It's not even included in the poll which is funny.

Because the number of gambling sites that accepts Monero is less than other crypto like doge, ltc, or eth. Once Monero is accepted in almost all big gambling site then people will start to use them.
I myself prefer to gamble with doge because of the cheap prize and cheap transaction fee.
dogecoin indeed have the cheapest value among other top 5 altcoins , but people should know that it has big risk too, a double risk besides you are gambling on a game you do gamble on volatile price . it's frequently doge move up more than 50% and also dropped more than 70%. if you okay with that condition to take the double risk then you are good to go. gamble with altcoin full of opportunity but also full of risk at the same time.
1168  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Trading vs Gambling on: July 31, 2017, 05:15:19 PM
I think trading and gambling is different but it can be said to be almost similar. Like this, gamblers do not have something, while trading implies ownership, gambling is a chance game, whereas with trading it takes a strategy, trading is based on research, but with gambling's not too needed. From these things look different but almost similar. I'm still confused, but obviously many said trading and gambling are different.

Different but still the same. What you do you, you put your money on the line. In gambling most is luck and good call if you pick some sport match, but with trading it takes just more then luck. Skill and research in what or when to invest is key point to will you end up with lot of cash or you will lose. Main difference is that when you trade and see that you made bad call or put money in some bad investment can reclaim some amount of it and lost can be minimal, while in gambling you win or lose no middle in this.
different are different, same are same and similar are similar. i would like to say that trading and gambling just a similar way to make money , both about guessing something to get additional value. a lot of similar things that might in the previous page here has been revealed. now it's just the matter how you consider and choose which one as your main way to make money.
1169  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to play gambling in a smart way? on: July 31, 2017, 05:00:53 PM
I have noticed so many players are just gambling for the sake of profits only. But majority of them loses most of the games eventually as they are not smart players.

So how should we gamble in a smart way so that we do not get more frustrations due to continuous losses?
To avoid more losing, the smart way you can do is to stop. Gambling is not profitable, it will bring our life to nothing. If you involved in gambling  the smart way you can do is to control yourself to become addicted, used this as entertainment and don't spend too much time instead find new hobbies that will alternate to gambling. First, you need to think what will the possible result of gambling in our life to avoid blaming yourself in the end.
big check.there is no smart way to play gambling even if gou are genius .you cannot be sure on what would really happen in gambling.you cant predict it.that is why gambling is not profitable.dont be  addited on it .
Our fate depends on how we handle ourselves when we are gambling, also it depends on our goal because every goal has different steps or method to achieve it. If we are only looking for entertainment then it's better because it is already assume that we can play this expensive kind of entertainment and we should remain to be fun oriented and will not change it to profit oriented.

The moment we treat gambling as our source of income and is aiming for high profit is the same moment we are tossing ourselves to a life of stress and disappoint. The fact that there are a house advantage signals that the casino will always likely win against us. However, it is true that if we just play for fun, then everything is cool and no hurt feelings when we lose a session.
basically when you do 'nothing to lose' playing style in gambling you have been in the right way! yeah you would ignore every single thing that you think it's not necessary. just playing and walk away. that's smart enough in my point of view , rather than gamble like a mad and get addicted just like how the junkies want drugs. always gamble in the safe line.
1170  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling and Superstition on: July 31, 2017, 04:40:59 PM
I believe in different superstitions about gambling and I think it's better to play in the clothes in which there was once a big win or to have some talisman to attract luck.

its possible too. especially the Chinese they tend to wear something that they believe could attract luck and make them luckier in whatever they do.. maybe chinese gamblers are also practicing this until now.

This could really work, or just because of our luck we will win our games. In my place, people will sit one place and play card games that place is their lucky place. Few friends are there they will win most of the times if they in that place. So they prefer only that place to play card games. Like that in your condition, the dress code also helps people to win money in gambling. This looks funny, but it works. 
You would really say that thing works if luck is on your side together the same time on doing your beliefs which you would say that you will do such thing on another day on playing gambling. I will bet that you will still lose up even if you are on the lucky position which you strongly believe. This beliefs might somehow boost up self confidence but the fact on increasing chances of winning is really impossible.
It doesn't have anything to do with you winning or having luck at your side but it does have a positive effect on a person's thinking. That perhaps is already luck for someone. Being able to believe that a chant or amulet or certain routine will improve your chances, it makes gambling quite a bit more fun.
yeah fun , people just don't think about how superstition make the game become so fun more than when you didn't use any superstition things. they just care about how to win , win and win . and it's sounds like an addict right? calm down yourself and think freshly . gamble in massive way won't earn you good things.
Only enjoyment we can get on gambling, when we win then that's a gift or extra reward but don't expect it to happen everytime you play, better play with your friendsto make it more fun and challenging.
ideally people should treat gambling with that way, but in the real situation people don't care anymore about having fun , and focus on how to recover what they have lost (if lose of course) and keep playing to earn more (if won it) human nature would takeover yourself . with superstition in your game you have fun actually at first time , just how you finished things up.
1171  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can gambling be profitable in long term ? on: July 31, 2017, 04:27:23 PM
Seems very difficult to rely on gambling to make a profit much less for long term. Because in gambling, emotions play a huge role.
yeah we mostly used our emotions rather than common sense , cool head and reasonable options. gambling always leading people to make mistakes and ended up with bad things , noone could completely handle it smoothly . and make gambling profitable in the long run itself are not something that easy to realized , it's insanely difficult.
1172  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to spot a gambler addicted? on: July 28, 2017, 06:40:41 AM
It's very easy to spot an addicted gambler.

And even here in forum you can find a lot of it, those people that has their own prediction threads.

Surely they are one of those addicted gamblers but I know they are responsible.
you can't judge like that , some people really know what they are doing , prediction some match based on their knowledge , ability to do some math statistics etc. they are selling their services and it's doesn't mean they are addicted. sometimes it's better to offering prediction service rather than gamble directly by yourself . as you might know the risk using any tips to place your bets in sports wouldn't give you any guarantee but at least give you a little bit confidence.
If he has chosen to use prediction services, he must certainly believe to place the bet because he has paid to get a forecast. I do not agree with you if playing with this way can increase our confidence, just the opposite you will be addicted to the prediction service so you will continue to pay them and you never can make a prediction by yourself.
first of all the reason why people using other people tip service instead make your own guessing are because of mostly they are not confident enough . when they bought a match tip they would feel so confident as they believe on what they have believed. addicted or not it's just your own problem , so solve it by yourself. the real sign of an addict are when you can't stop even you have lost big.
1173  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: July 28, 2017, 06:19:07 AM
Gambling is one of the most popular recreational activities to be enjoyed. One factor for the gamblers to be addictive is the experience of early big win. Winning a large amount can be sometimes overwhelming and the fact it arrives early means that the player think it is easier to land such thing.

One of the best thing to have fun nowadays. I dont need to change my shirt or even get out of my room because I can do it just like that. I can open my computer and access my favourite site without leaving my room. I can also get some money from it that is why gambling is a very addicting and entertaining things for me
there's always a good and bad things , when you gamble online you might have a flexible way to get entertained and earned money through of it . but you wouldn't have a good time to hangout together with your friends , talking bullshit but funny with people around have a lot of experience during that time. however what makes gambling addictive actually not about what you have said above i guess , but more to how your mindset think that gambling are the easiest way to make money. it's completely wrong!

Gambling can be the easiest way to make money but there is a caveat: it is also the easiest way to lose all your hard earned money. So gamble with caution and only play just for fun and not for profit because you do the latter, you will only be disappointed and stressed out.
yeah there's a high risk when you found an easy way in gambling , no wonder. people know already about that i guess. just the matter how you can deal with it , take it easy or get panic whenever you have crossed the line. an addict usually gamble with their emotion instead use their head, their brain to make a decision. that's what makes them always get addicted.
1174  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is instant way to get rich ? on: July 28, 2017, 06:03:48 AM
Actually not. Rich quick is a not good to set on your mindset . Yes really you will be rich  if you have bitcoins. Because the  bitcoins price going up and some expert says Bitcoins going 10,000$ USD price. but you will be not rich quickly you will be wait more years to become rich but there's assurance that you will be rich but not quickly as you know.
people are too easy and lazy talking about how to get rich through bitcoin. they just keep wondering if they was bough bitcoin in 2009 for $1 each you might would get rich easily right now. unfortunately not many people that really believe in bitcoin that time. you can do it now too , as the price might could rise up to 100x or 1,000x who knows right?
1175  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How greedy you are? When will you stop and withdrawn? on: July 28, 2017, 05:55:19 AM
I only target profit not more than 20% in every gambling and maximum lose 40%. When target has been achieved, i will leave game for the day. And continued for tomorrow.
you sounds like have a good plan there , the question are do you really can make it happen? i mean to keep following what you have planned without breaking or ignoring your rules? as i'm sure mostly when people have got faced with the game and needed to take a quick decision people would just simply ignore everything that you have set up on winning/losing limit , that's the biggest problem in gambling i guess.
1176  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: So much bad news. When will it end ? on: July 27, 2017, 11:56:22 PM
As long as there is no strong country that legalizes bitcoin, it will be a lot and continue to have bad news about bitcoin, I think we should ignore it.
yeah better to don't let your ears hear what your eyes didn't see. all the news just a rumour that noone know the real fact of it. until 1st august , hold your breath and hope nothing bad really happened. the chain split looks like won't happened just like what people talking about a couple weeks ago. just stay calm and if you want just build your own plan B .
1177  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What is your reason to gamble? Fun or profit? on: July 27, 2017, 11:43:15 PM
I'm gambling only for fun, because there are no specific strategies for making a profit. Gambling is created only for recreation of enjoyment. You do not have to focus on winning, but enjoy the process.
You decision is good, to gamble for fun is the best way to enjoy because it will not gonna make you lose an amount that is huge enough and will not gonna let you proceed on what you have to necessarily do. In life there are a lot of things that we need to do including our responsibilities that is why we need to learn how to balance our life and when we are too attached with gambling that is when the problem will start to get in.
the point are to gamble only the amount that you can really afford to lose. just create a plan B where the worst scenario could happened. that's how you should gamble properly for the sake of profit. and when you want to gamble for entertainment then just make sure you won't get addicted , you have to gamble for once or twice a mont then you could really considered yourself as the one who gamble for entertainment.

If you gamble almost every day then I guess it is no longer for entertainment and you are already addicted to gambling. Do some self-check from time to time and ask yourself whether you are already addicted to a gambling or not - you are usually when certain urge forces you to gamble everyday.
that's what i mean , what kind entertainment when you do it oftenly. it might become an excuse for those people who don't want to be called as an addict , that's why they insist play for fun only. a little bit ridiculous isn't it? clearly when someone gamble regularly it's about addiction , nothing else. and for the sake of profit the first reason why they could falling into gambling addiction.
1178  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What keeps you coming back??? on: July 27, 2017, 11:24:17 PM
I bet on sports betting every of my favorite teams will come back to play and this happens every week, the feeling for betting is based on my love of the club. But for poker I have different reasons, I always come back when I miss the atmosphere of analyzing cards and players. All the results I've experienced, I do not always take into account the revenue from gambling because my income is not only sourced from there.
yeah sometimes it's has a simply reason why you always want to come back to gamble again in sportsbetting , you do really love certain club and while watching they playing you put a little money on them. and without you realized it has given you an addiction. and for other games i think generally it's because of the people high desire want to earn money in a very easy way without having to put some efforts.
1179  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Do you save bitcoin for fun or for future purpose? on: July 27, 2017, 10:59:09 PM
Yes I do save mostly for future purposes. I think it’s time for us to learn from history. Bitcoin was pretty much useless in the early history of bitcoin, 10,000 worth of Bitcoin for pizza? That's $25,590,000 now worth millions.  Bitcoin will become more in demand in the future, its price will wildly fluctuate, but its value will go nowhere but UP. So I will be saving now for the future because I’m sure Bitcoin’s value will rise in the future. Right now I don't have coins for me to hold because I already cashed out last week for an emergency. Back to 0.
yeah you shouldn't play with bitcoin for having fun otherwise you would experiencing something like those people who bought pizza for thousands bitcoin which worth millions dollar now. the moment when bitcoin are so cheap has gone , now you have to take more seriously bitcoin as a real future investment. the price are still has potential to keep growing , just keep watching it!
1180  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is it a sin to gamble? on: July 27, 2017, 10:51:50 PM
Whether it remains a sin, if we do gambling with money that can be from gambling? And it goes on for long!And we never spend money from anywhere other than gambling? Is it still considered sinful? Because it can be called as income to support the family?

It's not a sin as long as you are not stealing others money. It only causes us to do sin when we are already addicted in gambling and we can't support our addiction in a way that even we want to gamble but we can't do it because we don't have money anymore. And what's coming to our mind? We want to commit such sin just to sustain our addiction.
yes as long as you don't commit a criminal act like stealing money to gamble. not many people can earn income from gambling because most of them will lose and end up with a gambling addiction that has a bad impact on him. this is the fact that many say gambling is a sin because most will end badly.
for some religion term it was a pure sin yeah , but when we talking generally i think gambling aren't a wrong thing at all . it's just a game that could earn you money or maybe for the sake of having fun . sin or not it's depends on how you consider gambling itself . when you didn't harm noone i think gambling are just a usual thing.
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