LOL, yeah, fuck them..apartment(large room type) maybe..but for houses that does not share a wall or walls, i think it is good enough.

a storage room or basement will make it quiet enough for a home occupant, unless it is almost as loud as a hammer drill, drilling through cement then yeah it is noisy.

Who makes chinese asics PSU?..asics are expensive and they rely on those PSUs, maybe there are good chinese PSU out there.

3kw miner is just about right for 1 20A breaker with 1 outlet..home "minimal" miner will just manage 1 equipment.

1500w-2600w asic via usb riser(gpu riser) is very doable, the problem is the "standard" of PC, it means there is a OS, CPU, hdd/sdd, rams, PSU.

i mean, the asic manufacturer would sell a 3500w desktop psu along with an asic? a 2000w unit cannot be 6 inches beside another 2000w unit, usb riser will be 1-2 meters to be ideal with the PC motherboard at the center. (4pcs ASICs.. up, down, left and right that's the best setup LOL)

or

the asic manufacturer sells an asic with a psu, that says in the manual, "only to power the gpu riser and the asic itself"?

there are many points of failure with this kind of market, a lot will be RMA'd or rejected RMA due to wrong pcie insertion, PSU power cabling, and cooling negligence for users (asics already designed the air flow)


analogy: same thing with routers, you could use a PC and install an OS for internet routing (with all the disadvantages of PC hardware) or just buy a compact, low power, low failure rate, small size routers.

we long time miners can really do it if it is sold to us, but imagine the newbs and FOMO miner idiots that would flow to the mining space due to bullruns hehe, these idiots account to majority of miners during bullruns, imagine that they can impact gpu prices during bear market LOL

maybe i'll try some chinese 2000w ATX PSU in the near future, got some old cards to spare hehe

Mining websites like nicehash, where you can trade and mine one coin for the other.


Sad if true, claymore was an OG hero in mining, he got a lot of coins and he didn't even enjoyed it. 

i disagree.

i would use the word "money printers" ..changes perspective LOL

bull or bear, money printers are generating...taaadaaa! "money"..money generation dictates price

a money printer that produces 5 usd a day at equipment that cost of 4k usd in a "set and forget" set up, will be enticing for some who have spare space, money, electricity and time.

miners or money printers are on top of the food chain in gpu market (bull or bear). gpu mining if it turned to shit or when the times (past) where crypto is not "popular" yet, yeah gamers dictates price. in the past where everybody is a gamer and miners are very rare.

be wary of the term "popular", cards that used HBM vrams were not popular and they made a killing.


the hint is in the power consumption. generally if there is "no significant architectural/tech improvement", to produce more performance you have to pump more power.

my speculation is 3xxx now generating income/coins (on the path to ROI) is better than 4xxx that is not in your hands yet/not making money.

yup, that 4xxx series is a (3xxx)refresh for miners since it did not advance the memory tech (gddr6x), but they do add some cache just like the 6xxx of AMD which did really good in gaming, matching those 3xxx of nvidia.

whether there is something in those 4xxx series or not, its hashrate will dictate the price, not just 4xxx price but 3xxx, 2xxx and AMD prices as well. so if 4xxx is almost equal the performance in mining with 3xxx, either 3xxx will go up or 4xxx will go down, either way the price will be not much different.

from where i am, 2xxx prices are not very good might as well buy those 3xxx gddr6. since we are not expecting 4xxx hashrate to have a significant increase we can say that 2xxx won't be left behind in obsolesce.

Energy is liberating, if you have a lot of energy it becomes cheap.

cheap enough energy will make the people lives better, because everything you do, electricity leverages your work exponentially.

just look at us miners if you have a lot of cheap energy then you are happy guy hehe

here is something to think about

density is efficiency, rigs will be capped by PSU, board or connections. it is going to get capped one way or the other, if you add (managing) more rigs/cards--it is your man power (labor+time) who will get capped, now if you hire an extra hand, is that efficiency?

there is no escape regarding heat, burning or consuming watts the by product is heat. if you use 5000w of gddr6 compared to 5000w of gddr6x they will both heat the same room about the same.

the gddr6x issues back then were thermal pad quality and cooler designs, if those are to be fixed in the next gen gddr6x is the way to go. actually in the 3xxx series if you choose the right models properly you can do okay.

dash coin x11 ASICs were quite profitable in the previous bullrun and the masternodes operators (validators/centralized entity) voted to reduce mining profits due to the selling pressure of miners. that is something keep an eye for in this upcoming ETH fiasco, already happened with the difficulty bombs BTW, at least miners are GPUs and ASICs unlike those in x11 which are all ASICs.

note: difficulty bombs did not give profit to validators, it just gave the foundation a higher price to dump at the top of the bull market LOL

i'm gonna give it to ETH devs, at least they are upfront in saying 100% POS than pretending that there is still POW for the argument of "there is POW/ we are POW" if POW is again the hero "narrative"

when a GPU POW reach reaches a profitable enough marketcap for ASIC makers, ASIC will take over that GPU POW. that take over happens at the top in CMC.

ETH innovation was the mining algo with the DAG on vram (memory mining), it restricts ASICs wide margin advantage over GPUs, basically ETH was the first successful coin (that reached the top part of CMC in two market cycles) that resisted ASICs.

GPU POW is always has been the "the early bird mining gear of choice"

GPU POW is the the real shitcoiner secret weapon, an invaluable tool ---> this is an "alpha leak" hehehe

xcoin was the first brand, successfully salvaged darkcoin from a dying/dead shitcoin and finally stole dashcoin name..

yup it made people rich, but it is just as good as other shitcoins that pumped in 2017 bullrun, so the people that are complaining there that they didn't invest there were the fiat holders LOL  

This is feeling bottom-ish for gpu prices,

Calculated from bank loan, even if you zero electrical cost the bank interest is around equal to profit. Means, let's say for 3 years you are mining just to pay bank loan at zero electrical cost

Timing the bottom is also as hard as timing the top..but we are around the bottom area.

Buying bit by bit now and lower will at least give a soft capital entry.

 


that solder holes at the back of molex socket is very useful when that molex connector burned, i just solder wires in those holes. that's why up thread i said those extra power sockets are very useful for me.

you can take a peek at DASH aka darkcoin aka xcoin ..seen the same shit on shitcoin history

it is a genius to call them validators..masternodes same shit.






watch the validators/masternode operators stole profit at peak bull market from miners LOL, and miners just left, some masternode operators are the ones profitable enough to run their miner to secure the network.

it is a shitshow.

i theorized it is a soft exit for ethereum foundation because it will turn into shit eventually and they will get out clean and unscathed ("if").

it could go to 2013 levels and still you can't kill it 

for the retards that needs to grow a little bit of brain..

there is no post mine BTC. transaction fees will be "the mining" after all of the BTC is mined.

XMR have tail emission for "post mining".

carbon foot print scam tax, will be like this: you buy something food(beef) carbon tax = 10, you buy "soy insect cardboard box sausage" carbon tax = 2 , all this is viable with central bank digital currencies and digital vaxx pass surveillance (to be embedded to your body). so are you rich enough to eat beef or garbage? so if you are rich enough to eat beef you could be limited to buy only a few, why? buying 10 beef will reach the limit of (10x10) 100 carbon tax limit (bad person destroying the environment says the government).


green energy and non-green energy needs infrastructure, labor, fuel to burn, etc. etc. just to produce energy for POW, this statement alone will inform you there is value to it (with the exceptions of scams and failure/idiot blockchains LOL)

check every power connection (sockets on riser, psu, card)..minor burns makes the gpu power draw smaller. degraded thermal pads and thermal paste makes gpu components to throttle down to protect the components from overheating thus lower performance.

In my mining since 2013, there was not 1 riser that killed a gpu, the soldering underneath the risers are getting better BTW.

Didn't check what temp display measures (sensor is located), all i care is the temp in the gpu. Temp in the mining room (specific spot, where rig/gpu is located), it will be useful if you are reaching max allowable temp in your mining room.

my problem with that v016 is that it reduced the power connection (sockets), yeah a pcie socket is sturdy enough for the power supply of that riser, extra sockets are useful for me.