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1221  Economy / Gambling / Re: SatoshiDICE.com - Verified rolls, up to 65,000x winning on: May 16, 2012, 12:51:28 PM
I have been doing some sims myself, perhaps swap the secret less ?

I only have a small amount of recieve txid's (from my own wallet) to sim against, but with that limited data set of 40 (lol) it does seem that some secrets will weight the hash results in favour of the gambler for awhile before swinging back to the house.

Sample output:
Code:
step 37: rand: -2, hash: -4
step 38: rand: -3, hash: -5
step 39: rand: -4, hash: -6
step 40: rand: -5, hash: -5
step 41: rand: -4, hash: -6
step 42: rand: -5, hash: -7
step 43: rand: -4, hash: -6

Its fairly simple, it works through all the txids in your wallet (can be provided in a file), then compares a random results vs a generated result using the same method you do.
It then increments (play wins) or decrements (house wins) the count you see (negative means results in houses favour).

If you want a copy of the code to run against your recorded tx's for a basic sim, send me a pm.
1222  Other / Off-topic / Re: Things said, and fights picked while we're waiting for our BFL products on: May 16, 2012, 04:18:40 AM
Who else is feeling a Google conference call with these guys? Cheesy

Im all for it, but Im not up for a 30min abuse session from Inaba.
he is unable to dispute any of my claims (or unwilling) and he does not seem to understand "burden of proof" or debate methods.

It would be exactly like sitting down with a WBC member and debating the existence of God, all you will get is screaming abuse and spittle flying in your direction.
1223  Other / Off-topic / Re: Things said, and fights picked while we're waiting for our BFL products on: May 16, 2012, 04:06:15 AM
The only one lying here is you, brother.
yet another baseless claim.

Until you can respond to a single point you've made with proof, what's the point?
You really really do not understand simple concepts like the burden of proof do you (assuming this is not a purposeful display of ignorance).

You have raised 0 points - everyone here is reading the same thread, please cease your childish lies and pathetic distraction attempts. Please answer the questions raised or shut up - I for one am tired of the baseless claims you and other BFL fanboys put forward. As I told you previously and you still do not seem to understand what "the burden of proof" is.

Ive been running your rants past the local atheist club as you provide an excellent example of arguing based on faith while believing you are arguing on fact.
They suggested this reading material for you: http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Skepticism

This quote in particular that applies to you is:

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In science, the burden of proof falls upon the claimant; and the more extraordinary a claim, the heavier is the burden of proof demanded. The true skeptic takes an agnostic position, one that says the claim is not proved rather than disproved. He asserts that the claimant has not borne the burden of proof and that science must continue to build its cognitive map of reality without incorporating the extraordinary claim as a new "fact." Since the true skeptic does not assert a claim, he has no burden to prove anything. He just goes on using the established theories of "conventional science" as usual. But if a critic asserts that there is evidence for disproof, that he has a negative hypothesis — saying, for instance, that a seeming psi result was actually due to an artifact — he is making a claim and therefore also has to bear a burden of proof.

Let me know if you need help understanding that - Im prepared to patiently explain this you you however long it takes.

Allow me to reiterate the points I have clearly raised you have been unable to address.


BFL,  At least A Dishonest Company UNCONTESTED FACT, Quite Possibly A Scam.

1) False advertising regarding shipping times from day 0 until current- UNCONTESTED FACT
2) False advertising regarding Chips - Claims it is their own design, in fact they are reusing 2nd Hand Chips. - CONTESTED FACT Burden of proof lies with BFL, currently they have 0 credibility due to previous lies as do you. All available information points to them using 2nd hand chips.
3) Accepts numerous pre-orders while being unable to meet delivery dates or production volume (Still stinks of a scam here). UNCONTESTED FACT
4) Numerous BFL Shills plugging BFL on the forum UNCONTESTED FACT - You Inaba are now my prime example. All your claims are baseless and you attack anyone that dares question BFL or yourself and your argument tactics reek of confidence tricks.


So please, spit off another rant and I will re-paste the outstanding issues with BFL that you have failed yet again to dispute, or try to apply some critical thinking to this issue and how you plan to prove anything you have claimed. If you cannot (and Im 100% certain you cant), accept that anyone believing you is choosing to do so in good faith and not based on sufficient evidence.
1224  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: MT.Gox will not release over $26,000 USD on: May 16, 2012, 02:48:15 AM
Anytime you want to admit this was the fault of your own stupidity and retract your flames against mtgox is a good mate.

Unless your to arrogant to admit your wrong even when it is plain to see for all.
1225  Other / Off-topic / Re: Things said, and fights picked while we're waiting for our BFL products on: May 16, 2012, 02:43:19 AM
Since when does anyone reveal the source of something that keeps them in business? Wanna bet on the response you would get if you went asking all the rest of the FPGA devs where they get their chips? I'll bet it would be something along the lines of go away, retard, although perhaps a bit more diplomatically worded.

They are sanded and lapped, others in the industry say they would be unable to source the "old" chips unless sourced second hand or paying ~$2000+ new.
These are 2nd hand chips, they have already been caught out in other numerous lies - it would not surprise me to in the least to see 1 more lie added.

No other FPGA developer has hid the identity chips used and definitely has not made outrageous lies claiming they developed them themselves.

What is your major malfunction here ? Do you guys really have such a flimsy grip on reality ? Should I expect this from all BFL supporters ?

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I see you conveniently sidestepped all of Inaba's well placed arguments

There are none, WTF are you talking about.
Inaba simply failed to defend his massive double standards.


Inaba I appreciate you kept it short, but Im disappointed when put on the spot you cowardly refuse to answer questions posed.
i see you either scream abuse, side step or insult  but never ever address points raised.

Pathetic, go back to crying at MTGOX for your own failure to read a FAQ.
1226  Economy / Gambling / Re: mem's BITCOIN GAMBLING LIST on: May 16, 2012, 01:58:07 AM
GoldGameLand added to the pending list.

Will try and find time tonight to give it a proper test, looks good though Smiley
1227  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: The ∑ Number Game - Week 5/9 to 5/16 BTC Pot: 10 BTC [Closed] on: May 16, 2012, 01:51:27 AM
Funds in the amount of 10.9 BTC have been sent. Please confirm.  Grin


http://blockchain.info/address/1C1F5G7xm8odoDGP8ajZZHCfKCPZDS2zFb

nice - sorry I missed the game.
1228  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: MT.Gox will not release over $26,000 USD on: May 16, 2012, 01:03:32 AM
Wow another e-tantrum directed at MTGOX from a dodgy user - big surprise.

Result will either be

A) MTGOX had legit delays, resolves it and the big sook gets his 26k
B) MTGOX ask for ID, Inaba refuses and posts another e-rant.

Seriously, grow the fuck up, You tell everyone to accept delays from BFL but you wont wait 3 weeks for them to resolve an international money transfer issue ?

EDIT: Oh well done for reading the MTGOX FAQ, that rant seems a bit stupid now doesnt it ?
1229  Other / Off-topic / Re: Things said, and fights picked while we're waiting for our BFL products on: May 16, 2012, 12:57:51 AM
I see Inaba is still unable to respond without throwing a classic E-tantrum.
Anyway - yes they are 2nd hand chips, unless BFL can point to a supplier who is prepared to announce they have a realtionship with BFL and do indeed supply new chips (will never happen).

What stinks is Inaba is this same person who is flaming the shit out of MTGOX for a small delay insists that everyone "SHUT THE FUCK UP" when questioning BFL for delays. Such an obvious double standard Im starting to think Inaba is actually just a scammer playing the long con.

Here is an excerpt:


WARNING - RIDICULOUS LEVELS OF DOUBLE STANDARDS AHEAD


I have been trying for nearly 3 weeks to release over $26,000 from MTGox.  Through miriad delays, lies and false promises, I am still unable to withdraw any USD from MTGox.  I believe, though I have not tested, that I may be able to transfer the funds out via Bitcoins, but it would come at a cost of conversion.  Which I have already paid twice in the past three weeks trying to get funds out.

At this point, I am absolutely sick and tired of the lying and BS that comes out of MTGox.  Nothing honest is ever released on their blog, it's always missing important facts or contains outright falsehoods.  Their customer service is a joke (I know, surprise!), and every time I contact them, they take days to get back to me... when they do it does not address the issue, but points to useless blog posts or gives excuses for actions taken or not taken.

This is everyones complaint RE BFL, the difference being that MTGOX always address public concerns, the only buthurt users Ive seen are botnets admins (yes Inaba could be a bitcoin botnet bitch).
So note the extreme double standard, he insists you can trust BFL with x3 times  this money.

It's almost laughable how poorly managed MTGox is, or it would be if it were not for the fact that they are holding millions of dollars of users funds without any recourse.

Yet again a double standard - it seems this behavior is completely defensible for BFL but unacceptable for bitcoins biggest exchange.
The only difference being is mtgox has the money you are waiting on and we are not certain if BFL's even exist in quantities above 50.


Unless these concerns are addressed and some reasonable explanation is offered, I will be moving all of my operations to another exchange.  Yes, I realize I am a small fish in a large pond, but I am also suggesting that everyone else do the same.

Yet again another double standard.
Apparently it is fine for Inaba to spit the dummy and attack MTGOX in 1 of his now famous e-rants, but should anyone such as myself politely air concerns about BFL's practices - get ready for the abuse from Inaba & his sock puppets.



MTGox can not be trusted with your data, as they have shown through being hacked via methods that were detailed to them long before the hack took place.  They are clearly showing that they can't be trusted with your funds, either, since they will not release funds in any usable manner (with the possible exception of BTC).  

Double standard, apparently its fine for BFL to lie for over 6 months but you wont trust a company that has a security breach and announces it ?

Explain yourself Inaba.
Without one of your immature e-tantrums if at all possible.
Possible BFL purchasers please note Inaba's double standards - do you really want to trust someone who is so inconsistent ?
1230  Economy / Gambling / Re: mem's BITCOIN GAMBLING LIST on: May 15, 2012, 03:03:57 PM
Hey mem, we have a new prospect to your list - http://goldgameland.com

Not exactly a new site as it's been online since 2005 with breaks during the recent years - however things were brought up to date and bitcoin support was added recently!

hey great to hear, checking out the site now.
1231  Other / Off-topic / Re: Things said, and fights picked while we're waiting for our BFL products on: May 15, 2012, 06:56:28 AM
BFL,  At least A Dishonest Company, Quite Possibly A Scam.

1) False advertising regarding shipping times from day 0 until current - I believe this is done on purpose to build up funds in order to bulk order chips.
2) False advertising regarding Chips - Claims it is their own design, in fact they are reusing 2nd Hand Chips.
3) Accepts numerous pre-orders while being unable to meet delivery dates or production volume (Still stinks of a scam here).
4) Numerous BFL Shills plugging BFL on the forum (I SPENT BILLIONS, LOL YOU WONT EVEN TRUST THEM WITH 1 MILLION LOL).


For my attackers that love to screech, swear and generally just dump walls of crys here is the possible scam models.

1) Inaba is a con artist involved with BFL. He and his cronies put up photos, start threads and pat each others backs for being "HUR DUR SO FUCKING SMART".
- The BFL's are fake or do exist but only a small amount (just enough to get people excited).
- Inaba's pool is the only one that supports BFL (he fakes all the BFL stats), strangely Inaba still uses and buys large amounts of GPUS (I thought BFL was better Huh and the wait was worth it Huh).

Seems less likely now, but the singles will not mine stand alone and Inaba & BFL has 0 credibility outside their circle jerk so a defnite statement is not possible.
All this would easily be resolved by involving a credible outside party such as Toms Hardware for a review.

2) BFL does not have enough capital to keep their own shelves stocked.
- They build up N orders until they can cover the cost of a bulk 2nd hand FPGA purchase.
- They then ship earliest orders and also cherry pick orders of vocal people in the forum.
- Rinse Repeat.

Seems extremely likely. At least this is not a con, its just extremely dishonest but that seems par for the course with BFL.

3)The single exists, BFL ships 10% - %20 of the earliest orders, stalls while total orders increase then when complaints are to high they ship another.
eg:

Week 1: 100 pending orders, ship 20.
Week 2: 80 old + 300 new pending orders, ship 30.

This is a ponzi scheme, until everyone asks for their unit or the money back the system keeps on working.

4)BFL is a startup company with absolutely terrible, but they are the real deal.
- They eventually get their shit sorted or are run out of business by other more experienced FPGA developers that have experience running a client facing business.



If I missed anything let me know.

From my current position I cannot make a call on BFL to say if they are legit or not. Until they address their own PR issues and start behaving like a professional company I personally see them as risk Im not willing to take.

Im a skeptic, I need more than the words of abusive fanboys to confirm somethings legitimacy.

If I did have the opportunity to visit their factory I would still not be satisfied with the BFL unless they allowed me to plug it into my own PC, using my own internet connection, target a pool of my choice and test.
After all that, knowing that they lied about 2nd hand parts being used and the ongoing false advertising regarding shipping Id still not do business with them due to concerns (package not delivered, warranty issues etc).

Im rooting for option 4) - I dont want to see a large chunk of the bitcoin community scammed yet again (Satoshi's Demon anyone ?) - it damages bitcoins rep and puts off new adopters.
I personally wish BFL would hire a PR person, fix their misleading advertising on the website and update clients on delays and if they feel inclined what the cause of the delays are (please do not say we need more preorders to buy the next batch of chips).



Feel free to give me a rant 2.5 pages long with a single point of "fuck you dumb 10 year old know nothing cunt" Inaba style if it makes you feel better, but it would be much better if we ditch the console wars mentality and discuss this in a calm fashion if we are to discuss this at all.
1232  Economy / Gambling / Re: Coin Toss 49% on: May 15, 2012, 02:09:45 AM
Not a scam at all Angry An unfortunate case of database corruption while I've been away for several months.

0.3 sent to 1MSzGKh5znbrcEF2qTrtrWBm4ydH5eT49f (legolouman) https://blockexplorer.com/tx/323147dde16262ac2e295b2b28bbbff3ad1eb82e90e2687d39619c85daf5860a#o1
4 sent to 13w53XpACfAVCuEYQkfzqbNp27JM2GatFe (bo2573) https://blockexplorer.com/tx/27bef2bd2f5563a5ff701fd789dd537d44dfe716fc0993df2d65bbab4f0bda45#o1
0.4 sent to 14bAQNv5yJBN9hqjfxvGMjfqRSHo17JWPs (stoppots) https://blockexplorer.com/tx/056412cf9674f14de0421ba1fd7474d52a3a3a732b4a11a922d5c40012dabe79#o1

mem, please let me know (honestly) how much I owe you.

As far as I can tell, website has been working 100% correctly now and has been paying all recent players.


Hi Alex, glad to see you return finally.

I tested all your sites after btc flip cleaned me out of my 1st lot of bitcoin and created my gambling list to help others avoid the same fate.


bitcointoss: 2 btc
Bitcoinflip:  1 btc
Bitcoindouble:  0.5 btc
btcriches: 0.3 btc

Quite possibly more but I know at least that much was lost to each site.
1233  Economy / Gambling / Re: mem's BITCOIN GAMBLING LIST on: May 15, 2012, 12:53:16 AM
updated BC-Casino's listings (correct cash in/out amounts).

Owner of btctoss resurfaces to discuss the many months of outages and non payments.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=63615.msg899516#msg899516

Waiting on results, but we may see the site moved out of the scam list Smiley
1234  Economy / Gambling / Re: BitcoinToss No Payment Received on: May 15, 2012, 12:50:15 AM

So about 2hrs after making my post above I receive this PM.



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I am posting this here now so any continued dialog will be transparent and informative for anyone interested to see. I feel at this point complete transparency is needed on behalf of Alex if he wishes to respond to my concerns about his website which for me began 3 months ago with the starting of this thread post #1.

However post #13 on the previous page is the main bulk of the issue at hand and it is this mainly that the transparency in his response is needed.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=63615.msg848521#msg848521

In the private message sent to me it was signed Alex so that is wat I will refer to you as and if you wish to do so you may respond here.



Light at the end of the tunnel perhaps ?

I will go back through my transactions and work out how much i wasted on each site.

iirc:
flip site 1: 3 btc
flip site 2: 1 btc
flip site 3: 0.7 btc
btriches (safe cracking thing): 0.5 btc.

should everything be resolved (for myself and other members) Id be happy to move it out of the scam lists.
It would have to go through the review process again and any issues of non payment would bounce it straight back out the list.
1235  Economy / Gambling / Re: mem's BITCOIN GAMBLING LIST on: May 14, 2012, 08:08:39 AM
Added backcoin contact info: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=8910
1236  Economy / Gambling / Re: [ANNOUNCE] Human vs human chess matches. BTC wagers. Looking for beta testers. on: May 13, 2012, 03:49:24 PM
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Yep, doomed. I sincerely hope it works out but human nature and all that.

maybe it's not a complete loss. what if two players are doing the same thing. odds are still even...

retitle it to human controlled robot chess and I think you have a winner on your hands.
1237  Economy / Gambling / Re: [ANNOUNCE] Human vs human chess matches. BTC wagers. Looking for beta testers. on: May 13, 2012, 01:13:13 PM
How are you preventing people from using bots while playing?

if i told you how, then all the botters would know how to work around my method silly!

Unfortunately I fear that your site is doomed to failure.  There is no technical mechanism available to prevent someone from running a grand master chess program and entering their opponent's moves into the program and then playing the same moves as the program does in the game.  This method of cheating is out-of-band, and is the same reason that I don't play scrabble with people online; you can cheat in exactly the same manner using scrabble solvers.

All you'll end up with is a bunch of players pitting chess programs against each other.

reminds me of cheating in online chess tournaments:
start chess prog, set your color to the one your opponents color and let the computer predict the moves for you.

Yep, doomed. I sincerely hope it works out but human nature and all that.
1238  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: PCI -> PCIE adapter on: May 13, 2012, 01:08:46 PM
Isn't that a PCI-1X to Molex adapter? Or am I missing something

yes it is and note the edit Tongue
1239  Economy / Gambling / Re: mem's BITCOIN GAMBLING LIST (no 404's, Scams, Pyramid's or Ponzi's) on: May 13, 2012, 08:16:30 AM
added reference article section, currently only has: Using SHA512 hash as random number generator for Gambling services by Stephen Gormick - I welcome any other suggestions for this list. Anything handy for new gambling site admins and gamblers looking for the fairest possible games.
1240  Economy / Gambling / Re: SatoshiDICE.com - Verified rolls, up to 65,000x winning on: May 13, 2012, 03:44:48 AM
I'm still waiting for a payout from 36 hours ago.  Undecided

I trust the site operators and everything, I'm just getting impatient!

Im waiting on txid f720f4c4eeddbd88d90b171cddf12741e756dfb4d540803fbe536f4d6068f674 Tongue
but in the 4 times Ive seen satoshi's dice fall over it always comes back online and pays the bets.

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