In theory of course it applies that they would have to break SSL or get a CA to sign a valid certificate. However, if you use a compromised DNS they can direct your traffic to their own server and proxy facebook for you with a self signed certificate. Your browser would then notice that the certificate has changed and if you don't pay attention to it you will be MITMed. I have encountered such behaviour in a military network where absolutely every web request you made showed "Get me out of here" firefox warning so to browse the internet you had to add every page as exception. What's worse is disabling https altogether. OkCupid.com for example does not have HTTPS and those assholes silently change the protocol for you. So for example you go to https://okcupid.com and it will immediately become http://okcupid.com

I think the snoopers can disable HTTPS for you similarly to how okcupid has done it. You will have to pay close attention to your address bar.

Yeah, I lately discovered (https://dnsleaktest.com/) that my VPN had DNS leak for who knows how long. I had to explicitly define the DNS to use for that VPN connection (luckily my VPN service provider has its own DNS). So, my government probably knows what porn sites I visit

Thank you! No MITM then I guess. Also, I found this nice command line that you can use to retrieve and print the fingerprint of the domain:
In my case, it prints: SHA1 Fingerprint=7B:CF:43:CE:3B:6A:9E:78:62:81:76:6F:9A:71:7A:DA:E2:7C:37:C6

This is an important discovery because I can establish a trusted SSH connection to another domain that is less likely compromised. I can execute the above command in multiple independent systems and compare the fingerprints. Nice!

Can anyone compare this with theirs?

edit:
it seems that *.bitcointalk.org (ip.bitcointalk.org) is sometimes accessed and then it says  COMODO CA Limited for issuer organization and the SHA1 fingerprint is 27:D3:D3:5F:3D:4C:D9:0D:60:8B:B7:0C:5B:5E:5C:F3:01:BD:4E:26. The strange this is that I don't see that certificate in my list of certificates.

Thanks, I like the certpatrol idea, it's exactly the kind of plugin I had in mind. However, what concerns me now is that when I entered this page and the certpatrol message appeared, it showed this fingerprint when I chose to see the details:
7B:CF:43:CE:3B:6A:9E:78:62:81:76:6F:9A:71:7A:DA:E2:7C:37:C6

However, the reddit topic you linked shows this fingerprint:
29:0E:CC:82:2B:3C:CE:0A:73:94:35:A0:26:15:EC:D3:EB:1F:46:6B

Any ideas why they're different?

edit: after a while I made refersh to this page and it accepted another certificate with this fingerprint:
27:D3:D3:5F:3D:4C:D9:0D:60:8B:B7:0C:5B:5E:5C:F3:01:BD:4E:26
and it's different again :S

Other pages seem to be OK right now but some time ago I saw problems in other pages too. The paranoia lies in the fact that this is my home PC. However, the security police of my country might be trying to snoop on me these days due to the work I do. Anyway, let's suppose the government agency has somehow broken my SSL and is doing the man in the middle attack even though I use VPN all the time. How can I disrupt that attack or check if the attack is indeed going on?

edit:
now I no longer see that old message. now it shows "Verified by: GeoTrust, Inc." so something has changed. the strange thing a couple of days ago was that I was developing a website and at some point firefox crashed. after starting it again I was logged out from all the pages where I normally would remain signed in.

This topic is weird because it seems to have some SSL problem. I logged in to the forums from this link and later discovered that it didn't actually use https although it should have used it. Is it a security threat? Other bitcointalk topics seem to be OK but this one is different. Is it some bug in Firefox?

That dude's face...

Good morning my fellow participants in this discussion!


YES! At times I play the ultimate test/honeypot for stereotypical thinkers who have inner butthurt for some issues and who will see in my words what they want to see. Remember, if I say something overly stupid or radical, then I'm probably joking. You can apply the latter even in your everyday life and you will be amazed how it saves you from getting into pointless fights and misunderstandings. Even if the other person is not joking, it does not hurt to laugh because that's a safe bet and always softens the situation. Remember, you don't want to really get into stupid human arguments because then emotions start to radiate and it will drain your personal energy. Don't feed the flyers. Pretend to be upset if the situation requires it but don't really be upset.


Yes, I was joking. I thought it was obvious because such level of exaggeration is typically a joke. SnokkomBTC even replied "rofl " and it should have been a hint for you. I'm sure he enjoyed a couple of good laughs, even I did laugh for several minutes for what I said, imagining a guy who would really check out fat chicks in that hope what a good investor that guy would be.

However, there are bits of truth to every joke, right? The joke has to be plausible in order to be good, remember Poe's law? In my situation it goes like this: I'm dating a girl who has some fat here and there but she is very eagerly hitting the gym and she has a face of an angel. It would be stupid of me to discard her for that extra fat. Thus, I ignore it, not even mention it, but I do compliment her for working out when it's appropriate.

I know that in our ill world we have all kinds of unnatural expectations for people and it brings much suffering. However, I also know that intent can work miracles (mind over matter). The appearance of your physical body is nothing final and can be manipulated with the use of unbending intent. Beauty is just a perception and since it's subjective to begin with, you can even change whether other people perceive you as beautiful or not. They who have read The Last Wish by Andrzej Sapkowski should remember that usually average or rather ugly girls were the best candidates for becoming a sorceress and of course one of their tricks was to appear as attractive. The danger of this lies in the self-importance of the practitioner as they must never give in to their ego or they will soon find a sad end. Self-importance kills, literally. So, one has an option to either give in to their self-pity and think that they can change nothing or change themselves and be amazed how it changes the world they reflect.

Keep your bitter sarcasm and save your energy. Your image of me is malformed and the discussion you attempt to force on me is a folly driven by your fantasy of confronting that jerk-type-of-guy who is full of self-importance and whom everyone hates. For a moment I thought you're OK but boy that moment was short.

Pompous what a funny word. I will add it to my dictionary.

That's a fine post and I also look at things the same way. That's the reason why I sometimes check out even fat chicks who have really pretty faces because I know that fat can be burned away, anyone can do it. But bone structure is much harder to change .

That's a fair point but it gets me to a grey zone where I don't really know what side to choose. On the one hand I am butthurt because girls abuse their gender privileges a lot to get what they want but on the other hand a honest girl with good intentions definitely deserves good treatment. Since you have proven yourself to be worthy, this paradox is not relevant any more.

Hah, it's funny you pointed that out because to be honest, people generally dislike hyenas. Hyenas as animals are very misunderstood, so by choosing to be known as Hyena I am actually putting myself in a poor starting position. So in a sense, I do expect to be treated differently because of my username how ironic.

fuck you guys are missing the point. I don't expect special treatment. it is a well known fact that women sometimes in the online forums indicate purposely what their gender is so that men would not talk to them like they talk to other men.

You are right, this is pointless bullshit. I think BitChick is alright and from her replies I can tell that she does not expect special treatment.


Yes, let the butthurt flow through you. By the way, genetic engineering of humans is no joke, as much as it hurts your equality-deluded feminist way of thinking. I deliberately say these things out because I despise people who live in the fantasy world where all subspecies of humans and genders are equally intelligent and what not. This is simply not the real world. Open your eyes. Life is a constant struggle at all levels of its existence. Weak will die, strong survive. Don't hate the player, hate the game. Evolution takes time though so weaker genetic material will fade gradually out from existence so no individual has to be discriminated. They will just have a bit tougher time surviving.

The idea of genetic engineering of humans actually comes from this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=hdMKVXsYeos#t=694
(Guy who spent several years far in the future returns and gives an interview. Turns out that in the future all people look much more similar than today because of the genetic engineering. Their facial features don't vary so much. Consequently, there will be less ugly women )

Speaking of that old Finnish fart, it reminds me that he bought a castle in my country for his bitcoin wealth: http://www.arcticstartup.com/2014/09/01/estonian-bitcoin-castle

After reading that article, It's hard to believe he's no longer into Bitcoin business.

One does not need to be a billionaire for that. I remember a guy selling his house and buying bitcoins in the given order of magnitude. If you care too much about money everything will be too risky and you will lose your wealth to inflation. I'd rather choose quick but uncertain death than slow, certain and painful death. But then again, it all comes down to your natural levels of testosterone. Get rid of breast feeding females in your neighbourhood and don't be around small children, they will reduce your testosterone levels and you will become a coward who will never take any risks.

But what does it change if he's trolling? It doesn't invalidate the question.

Depends on what you want and what you are willing to lose. I was just giving a comparison how the situation has changed since the early adoption days. Investing 1000$ right now won't make you good profits any time soon, but it sure did some years ago. To get the taste of good profits you will have to invest much more today. It means bitcoin today is not the same kind of investment it was in 2012, we're closer to its maturity. Although it's quite logical it should be stressed out that investing and making some lousy pocket money profits is not worth the hassle. If you're aiming the sky, try to hit the god himself.