Sounds like an interesting experiment I suppose. I'm also interested in digging and building nuclear fallout shelters so if your castle needs one it would be even more interesting for me to team up with you. And I love the concept of self-sufficiency. It takes power away from the government and big corporations and it gives it to the people who are willing to work. It also eradicates socialist parasitism from the society.

In Estonia you can get fined 30 euros when someone complains that it is slippery in front of your house. Makes me want to live off the grid more and more.

Actually I just changed my mind. I do not intend to punch holes just into the copernican system. I want to put the whole system under pressure so that it would either break or persist. If there are any weak points in our current understanding of the cosmos then I would love to keep punching those weak points until they are no longer weak points or the whole thing falls apart. Copernican system has its flaws.

My personal suspicion is that the Earth is hollow and although the Copernican system is correct we live on the inside surface of that hollow earth rather than on the outside surface. What we see in the sky may or may not be what we have been told. Since moon landing was a hoax and Mars rover is a scam, I don't have enough information to say anything about the nature of things beyond the Van Allen's belt. The Russians who drilled 12 km deep hole discovered that in contrary to their expectations the earth actually became less dense as they drilled deeper. This could mean that they drilled past the centre of gravity and that the Earth's crust is not as thick as we have been told.

Since there is a giant hologram already cast upon our Moon to hide what is really on the Moon it is not far fetched to extrapolate that other astral bodies may also be just holograms. It's pointless to argue with me on that because you cannot prove nor disprove it. Pretty much the only thing we can actually prove in this whole context of conspiracies is the concavity of Earth and entrances/exits at the poles of Earth. Alternatively, it would be great if we got to see video footage of Earth from space (as high as possible) that does not use fish eye camera. If the horizon up there is still on the eye level then it is a definite indicator that the Earth is concave or at least flat.

That is correct. Although I am aware of experiments of objects falling in vacuum side by side and interestingly some force pulls them closer to each other as they fall. From here we can deduce that gravity is effective on the small scale as well as on the large scale.


You can increase the centrifugal force by either making the object spin faster or adding more mass but keeping the rotation speed the same. Earth may rotate slowly but it surely weighs more than the ball of water in the video.


So what? The rotating water ball video is not a proof of the hollow earth but instead it visualizes the concept which could very well apply to planet formation.


On the outer surface or on the inner surface of Earth? On the inner surface of a hollow and rotating object there is also this "simulated" gravity which is actually the centrifugal force. On the outer surface the centrifugal force works against the gravitational pull.


Not necessarily. If the centrifugal force is only a little bit larger than the gravitational force it could take billions of years for the planet to fall apart. It could also be possible that the centrifugal force and gravity are in an equilibrium on Earth.


What do you mean by the centre? When the fluid-like substance is rotating then heavy objects rise to the rims of the rotating sphere of fluid as seen in the video.


Perhaps what you misinterpreted is my intentions. I am not trying to prove the hollow earth theory. I am trying to punch holes into the Copercnican system. It's much easier to destroy than it is to create. And apparently I am more of a destroyer than creator

Okey let me get this straight ... your bitcoins were confiscated and you were imprisoned for some time for doing what? I need to study your case to avoid similar shit happening to myself. What are your tips to others like you? What drew that much attention to you?  Who did you piss off and with what?

Thanks for being polite, it's always appreciated. However, you have failed to understand the principles of mathematical induction. Ever heard of the fractal nature of the universe? Did it ever occur to you that our universe is self-similar? Events on the small scale resemble events on the large scale and so on. Look it up. I have never concluded that all physics is wrong. However, there are certain problems with the physics they teach us in schools and even in universities. Just to get the ball rolling for you, check out Tesla's suppressed technologies and scalar waves. I'm not going to even start babbling about ether.

That said, your main argument seems to be that the ratio of centrifugal force and self-gravitating force is being different. With that you have just exposed your own ignorance because you fail to see that in the infinite universe where the an alleged big bang started it all in a chaotic manner, all sorts of planet formation conditions are possible. I never said that all planets are hollow as a rule. Instead, I said that planets could potentially form as hollow objects. It all depends on the properties of the initial spinning cloud of dust and gas that later becomes a planet. If the rotation speed is high enough it will defeat the gravitational pull the same way Saturn gets to keep its rings. If the angular acceleration due to rotation is slightly less than the gravitational pull to the centre then the planet will end up as a filled object. On the other hand, when the angular acceleration due to rotation is slightly more than the gravitational pull the planet will eventually fall apart.

Can't we at least file a complaint or notify the Chinese authorities?

I laughed at the flat earth theory 2 years ago. I even didn't look at the concave earth theory 2 years ago, as if it was even worse than the flat earth theory. But I started investigating the hollow earth theory because I have a natural interest for planet formation (my bachelor's thesis in informatics was a random world generator) and I figured that obviously a rotating cloud of dust and gas would have a hollow interior as a result of the angular acceleration due to rotation.

When I saw this video, it was clear to me that what we are taught in the geography is utter bullshit and should not be taken seriously. It is a known historical fact that no one has ever drilled deeper than 12 km. Thus, how on Earth can a scientist say what is inside Earth. Just because some places put out lava does not mean the whole Earth is filled by it. Those shit scientist really think people are that stupid that they believe just any ridiculous explanation they serve via the public education system.

One thing lead to another so I came acquainted with the Expanding Earth Theory. From physics perspective the expanding earth would make perfect sense in the hollow earth context. Where does the extra land come from? Matter does not just appear out of thin air, so how could the earth be expanding? But when we take Earth as hollow, it becomes self-evident that the cavity inside Earth gets bigger as it rotates, thus the surface area can grow.

For long time I was a believer of the hollow earth theory. It made perfect sense from physics perspective and the historic facts regarding Hitler and Admiral Byrd were confirming it. However, I still believed that NASA has been telling the truth, that the Moon Landing actually took place and that we are definitely located on the outside surface of the hollow Earth. But about half a year ago this flat earth theory just kept gaining popularity so out of curiosity I looked what they had to say. It lead me to believe that NASA has been deceiving the shit out of public and that Moon Landing was a total fake.

So, since we can discard every single video and picture by NASA due to their shit reputation for faking everything, I obviously got second thoughts about the curvature of the ground under our feet. Because the flat earth theory is too ridiculous due to its ties to the bible I started investigating the concave earth theory. I always discarded it as junk due to the dumb assumption that light in vacuum always travels in straight lines. I thought that if we really were inside the concave earth then I could see it with my own eyes. However, it has been proven that light bends, so a concave earth would not be obvious.

By that time I already knew about the illuminati and reptilians. I knew that hollywood films are full of their secret symbolism, it's just so obvious, they put everything out there. So when I came to this video:
Game of Thrones *Extended* Intro Shows Earth is Concave (We live INSIDE)

It suddenly became plausible that we could live in a concave Earth. Having processed all this information, one thing is for sure, I cannot say for sure what is the curvature of the ground below my feet. I simply cannot say it because now I know that I don't know it.

There are plenty of reasons for NASA to fake everything. Their Mars rover is actually in Greenland by the way. The money goes to black ops projects. I'd love to see SpaceX seriously going to Mars for example when in reality NASA hasn't got past even the Van Allen's belt of radiation and they have even admitted it publicly.


The explanations of possible errors don't make sense because each of the rectilineator links has its own support mechanism. Since the mechanism is reset for every step errors cannot cumulate. He tries so hard to paint the experiment as a failure that it's laughable. Nevertheless, the experiment should be repeated now a century later because with today's technology it would be possible to achieve more precise measurements and thus more adequate results.

Yes, here's where most of the population goes wrong --- they thing a hoax as big as this cannot be pulled off. Yet most of the population are enslaved by the banking system and this somehow is perfectly normal. If you're not a free man to begin with, then how do you have the arrogance to believe that you are not massively being lied to by your masters? The conspiracy has grown so big that just its size has begun to help it go unnoticed by the dumb public.

Hell, they're even admitting it publicly because they can, since the public is so dumb they think they are just joking, but the joke is on the dumb sheeple:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaMqI705AZE


I'm not sure if that particular example would be possible but there are cases where it is possible to see beyond the alleged curvature of the Earth with a telescope. What is even more funny is that when strongly zoomed in the buildings in the background seem to be on the higher ground than the buildings in the foreground while in reality the buildings are on the equally high ground.

Interesting piece of information but it's overly pessimistic, almost as if it is trying too hard to discourage people from conducting this experiment. If there is a risk of unavoidable systematic error then results should vary. Some experiments should give a result according to which the Earth is convex. Some may even tell us that the Earth is flat. However, it will always be possible to determine the truth by using the Monte Carlo method. You may get it wrong once but after enough attempts the true curvature of the Earth must start showing up.

I think I am starting to get it why this experiment hasn't been conducted again. It's because of what I just said. Until this experiment has been carried out just once it is plausible to say that the results must not be trusted due to a potential cumulative error. However, if more and more people were to conduct this same experiment, we could start applying probability theory on the results and thereby statistically find out the truth.

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LOL I didn't notice at first who the author of that writing is --- Donald E. Simanek

(picture of a true shit-scientist above)

This guy was paid to debunk results of the original rectilineator experiment. He's not a scientist, he's a fucking investigative journalist. I should have known.

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This guy Donald E. Simanek is clearly delusional, look at what he has written:

He honestly believes that NASA is telling the truth and hasn't faked anything. This guy cannot be taken seriously. I would be willing to accept scepticism from a person without an expectation bias but this Donald guy is full of it. He is whining about the rectilineator guys to have an expectation bias but he himself has a humongous expectation bias in a sense that he expects earth to be convex and NASA to be telling the truth. His writings cannot be taken seriously for that reason alone. Like seriously guys, look at the irony ---- sceptic thinks he has debunked a conspiracy theory by accusing his opposition of having an expectation bias, while the sceptic himself has an even greater expectation bias favouring his own theory.

so it is silly, I agree. It doesn't mean I shouldn't look into it. And to my understanding I did show what is wrong with the convex earth theory. Telescopes and horizons. The ship disappears fully behind the horizon but when you zoom in with a telescope you can still see it. And don't tell me that it is a mirage due to refraction caused by the hot air above and cold air below. The "refraction" and "mirage" straw is way overused to "debunk" conspiracy theories. It's as stupid as a guard hearing some strange noise in Oblivion and saying "these damn rats again" or "it was probably wind". No it is not wind and it is not rats! It's a fucking thief stealing shit from the castle!


Did you just suck that out from your thumb? When constructing those straight bars needed for the rectilineator you would make them all from the same template. However, when finally using the bars you would turn one's face downwards and the next bar's face upwards. By doing so you would reset any error in the template that would otherwise cause the drawn line to bend in either direction.

What you just did is what every egomaniac would do. You want me to play your game by your rules so you could defeat me with your tricks. Not going to happen. You are a pawn of the corrupt system. You have your beliefs and if even the slightest part of these theories were to become widely accepted the whole domino chain of scientific studies would start collapsing. This would be too much for you personally and for all the other pawns of the corrupt system. So naturally, you try to defend it while believing that you represent the good guys.

It is you who is arrogant, can't you see it? You fight and ridicule any opposition, you are so insecure inside. There's nothing wrong with the concave earth theory, but it is you who has limited thinking. Your imagination works only in the direction of fortifying your current beliefs and demolishing any threats. Now I agree that your imagination is good and you are talented in what you do but you have one little flaw ---  you are unable to use all that talent to seek for the possibilities of how the concave earth model would work out. You see how it wouldn't work out because that is what you want to see.

To you and every other shit scientist out there, here's what I propose: conduct the fucking rectilineator experiment independently and in different locations on Earth. This has only been done once in the history of man kind and it proved Earth to be concave. Here's your chance to get famous by being the second person in the history to conduct this experiment. I am happy to accept any outcome of that experiment because I am not trying to defend my ego or reputation in the scientific community but instead I am just seeking the truth.

What are you hoping to get? A "peer reviewed" and published mainstream science article? 

If you're too lazy to think for yourself then I cannot help you. Perhaps Admiral Byrd is reputable enough for you to take these theories seriously, if you insist on some authority telling you what's what.

Admiral Richard E Byrd - Hollow Earth Video Interview

As for different brands of lunatics, if you're the guy who would like to call the author of that hollow earth blog a lunatic, then I have no respect for you. The guy is igniting thought and explaining how it is plausible for the planets to form as hollow. You call open-mindedness lunacy? If you're not joking, you have serious problems with your expectation bias which forces you to think inside a really cramped box.

In situations like this I always like to provide a link to the following video:
NASA PROVES HOLLOW EARTH THEORY... PROOF EVIDENCE EARTH IS HOLLOW

Although the title of the video is a bit of an exaggeration, if this doesn't open your mind for the possibility of hollow planets, nothing will.

reference: http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=Eratosthenes+on+Distance+of+the+Sun


the hollow earth theory has actually an answer for this. Inside the hollow earth there is a hot iron core which provides heat and light for the inner Earth and which also provides the protective magnetic field for the outer Earth.


http://www.collective-evolution.com/2013/08/26/mind-blowing-research-suggests-that-earth-could-actually-be-hollow/

This central sun is not a conventional sun (there are no thermonuclear reactions taking place) but instead it is a hot ball of iron.

I would recommend you browse this blog for more answers regarding the hollow earth theory:
http://hollowplanet.blogspot.nl/

It is written by a scientifically minded person rather than by some religious lunatic.

The sticks and shadows experiment was the only point I found interesting from that link. Is it really possible to calculate the circumference of the Earth like that? If so then it definitely kicks a hole into the flat earth theory. It doesn't puncture the concave earth theory though.

But unfortunately, many of the other ways listed there were crap. The webpage even lists some of the stuff that is used to prove that the Earth is not convex. So it's laughable. For example, ships that have disappeared behind the horizon are still visible with a telescope, NASA photos are fake, centre of gravity could very well be in the middle of the hollow earth's crust not in the centre of the planet.

Since I think flat earth theory is weaker than the concave earth theory, hollow earth theory and expanding earth theory, I would not bother to explain some northern and southern lights thing. I'm not a flat earth believer anyway. I'm just an opponent of the Copernican system.


Not so easy to dismiss the gravity by expansion theory. What if Planck length is not a constant? What if it is increasing in time but since everything is growing in size proportionally to the increase in Planck length we are unable to detect the change in that constant? Perhaps you should also have a look at this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bd-QqKmVyfU

Seems that this guy has more explanations in his sleeve than I have.

As for Newton, I must admit I don't fancy his theories. He assumed astral bodies to be filled while in reality there's a good chance they are hollow, which would invalidate the calculations of their mass according to Newton's "laws".

According to the article you pointed out gravity is an entropic force. So the universe is intelligent enough to understand that for some reason it needs to increase its entropy? Interesting indeed, but also ridiculous. As a result, the god/universe just generates this force "gravity" out of thin vacuum to make everything look more chaotic in the macro cosmos while not affecting the flow of energy in the micro cosmos. This is the first time I see a theoretical physicist trying to explain the world with the help of god except that instead of god they cunningly use the term entropic force which equates to "system's statistical tendency to increase its entropy". So when a theoretical physicist is in trouble and doesn't know how to explain something, they will come up with a clever term such as entropic force and just use that term. Same goes to utterly religious people who explain everything with the word "god". I wouldn't say one is better than the other.

I don't know. The information on the matter suggests an alien race living on the other side of the North Pole's entrance/exit indeed. Perhaps that other world is like a paradise in comparison to our known Earth? If that's the case and if people all over the world knew about it, who would stop the Earth refugees from going to that paradise? You see what's happening to Europe due to sandnigger wererefugees swarming the whole place due to the activities of ISIS. They're destroying the Europe. Similar thing would happen to that "other world" beyond the North Pole opening when all earthlings started to travel there in hope of better life. It has to be kept in secret because human beings are so dumb that they wouldn't be able to populate a paradise-like place in a peaceful manner. They would just ruin it. At least here in the junk yard Earth which is actually a prison, we will just kill each other but out there we might harm something that deserves protection (unlike mankind).

By the way, here's a good educational video about the science mafia:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0F-CBiuJJrk

If what you said is correct and you actually flew directly over the north pole then this is huge news. They don't allow flights directly over the north pole, not even the satellites. It's speculated that there is a polar opening directly at the north pole. The north pole does not exist because there's a large entrance/exit hole inside the crust of the Earth. For example, google maps are obviously glitchy at the north pole, what are they trying to hide?




source: http://thegreaterpicture.com/hollow-earth.html


well currently the concave earth model is my personal favourite but it does no way try to tell you that this is the most plausible one or whatever. If I left such an impression then it was not my intention. I just wanted to throw the concave earth model into the equation due to the fact that currently the flat earth model has gained a lot of popularity which makes people think that if you don't support the Copercnican system then you are automatically a flat earth believer, which is kind of dumb. There are shit load of theories out there and the flat earth theory is just one of them, with its own holes in it.

This is correct. According to the Beatles we all live in the yellow submarine which is also a possibility no worse than all the other theories currently out there.

https://youtu.be/fbgGKCRF5X8?t=305

No need to assume that I believe in tortoises and dumb shit like that. To be honest, the flat earth theory doesn't appeal to me at all, but who knows, maybe it's the truth. What I do know is that current mainstream science is full of shit and even the primitive things such as the curvature of Earth (or lack of it) is yet to be disclosed. And what the hell is there on Antartica? Why is it a military guarded area where tourists are not allowed? And why is North Pole also a restricted area? This is pissing me off. I want answers.