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1141  Economy / Speculation / Re: Rally!!!!! on: June 15, 2015, 04:35:35 PM
Hah, didn't even notice Smiley

Yep... And we are not even near mass adoption  Grin

we're going to be sooo rich
1142  Economy / Speculation / Re: End of the Bear Trend on: June 14, 2015, 10:42:05 AM
But what of before that? It was at $242 and $249 before going down to $219

But what before even that? It was 4$ and 5$ before going up to 17$. Everything has to start at some point. I think the time is ripe for some slow but sure constant rising. It's been a while since we last had anything like that. According to probability theory, it should happen any time now, any time. Now.
1143  Economy / Speculation / Re: End of the Bear Trend on: June 14, 2015, 09:24:42 AM
are you sure about the 1 per day rising, this since when? this year? to me the market is resembling just a sort of a straight line for now

Of course I'm not sure and I exaggerated as the rise could be different. The point was that a slow but steady rise has been noticed lately. I remember that it started at 229, then it was at 230 for a while without going lower nor higher. Today it's 233 already. I can remember such slow and steady long term rise from the beginning of 2013 and also before and during the Summer 2012. If I was a whale this would be one of the strategies I could use --- accumulate very slowly so that it would be difficult to say in the news "bitcoin suddenly rose 20%" or something like that.
1144  Economy / Speculation / Re: End of the Bear Trend on: June 14, 2015, 01:38:07 AM
Slowly but surely we are rising, 1$ per day. Soon everyone notices it and then the rally will speed up fast



We need to break ~237$ this week for the weekly pSar to flip, this is very close
1145  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Core or XT? POLL on: June 11, 2015, 05:37:25 AM
That's why I support the idea of getting rid of the Proof-of-Work mining altogether and replacing it with Proof-of-Stake. Right now miners are parasites to the network. The only owners of the network are actual bitcoin holders.

Satoshi's invention of mining (which probably should have been called "confirming") not only secures the blockchain but has one very important side-effect: the disbursement of the 21 million coins into as many hands as possible, i.e. distributing BTC wealth. This job is 2/3rds complete.

Would we prefer it if 73 people who happened to be around in the first months of 2009 got all the BTC to begin with?

Satoshi's PoW was very good for the initial distribution of coins but only for that. I don't support 100% PoS coins at all, that's the reason I hate NextCoin for example because 100% PoS is corrupt and unfair distribution. However, a hybrid between PoW and Pos (such as Peercoin) is the best approach. You have the coin slowly transforming from PoW to PoS over time. To put it into the context of Bitcoin, now would be the time when we should start seeing PoS blocks around and perhaps over the next 4 years PoS mining should become dominant to PoW mining.

A hybrid PoW/PoS mining model gives us the best from the both sides. It's the fairest initial coin distribution and energy efficient in the long term. As a bonus it makes network development decisions much easier to have a PoS coin because in PoS mining the miners and coin holders are the same people, so they can use their private keys to their stash to vote democratically what protocol changes to implement and what not.
1146  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: CryptoGraffiti - Block Chain Message Encoder & Decoder on: June 10, 2015, 01:05:59 PM
Seems that BTCChina released their own encoding service to write messages in the blockchain. Are you guys also behind it?

BTCChina Press Release: http://www.coindesk.com/press-releases/btcchina-releases-blockchain-inscribing-service/

They are encoding messages into coinbase which is what only miners can do. Currently cryptograffiti doesn't even attempt to decode coinbase messages because miners put their names and some other meaningless spam into it. Perhaps in the future, if we figure out how to avoid spam in coinbase, we would start monitoring the coinsbase messages too. Or perhaps the coinbase messages should have a slightly different monitoring mechanism that is more spam tolerant. I will have to think about it. I think it's a good idea to also start monitoring coinbase messages with cryptograffiti even though regular users wouldn't be able to save such messages.
1147  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Core or XT? POLL on: June 10, 2015, 05:43:00 AM
I voted core...

But I am old school.
I am also a professional miner.
If 20MB blocks go through, I will have to shut my node down entirely and go mine another coin.
In my world, it's the core or nothing at all... whilst I want to remain in Bitcoin, I won't be able to save my earnings and will be auto-sold.
Put more downwards selling pressure on the network... I'm just one miner, though not the only one.
I also never lost a satoshi and been in this business for 3-4 years now.
Then I will transfer the coin leftover to a savings coin... like DigiByte.
If anything, this fork will only hurt Bitcoin but Gavin's skin flute players won't hear anything else.

Not just me who pays for their bandwidth... the entire world is going towards a pay-per-bandwidth model.
At $75 for 20GB, I would need 3 separate internet connections minimum and pay around $400 a month on internet alone for blockchain upkeep.
More wasteful than the power used to power the network...
So instead of making power companies richer, now miners will make ISP's richer too.
Other coins don't force me into the red, why would Bitcoin?  #DestructionOfBitcoinViaFIAT

This means I'll go mine another coin and run THEIR core.
No fucking way I can afford $1,000 of internet when it costs me $75 right now.... just to upkeep the core, fuck that.
I'm, also Canadian, so trying to screw over Chinese miners you fuck over everyone who mines.

To me, the devs are nothing but power trippers looking for something to do, to establish their usefulness.
Gavin's just another thoughtless brain dead liberal trying to play follow the leader.
Just like union cock suckers, no one matters to them but themselves and their skin flute orchestra.

GO USE OTHER COINS!!!  BITCOIN IS TOO FUCKING SLOW!!!!
Then you will see that the Btcoin block size is fine the way it is and that Bitcoin really sucks as a crypto.


That's why I support the idea of getting rid of the Proof-of-Work mining altogether and replacing it with Proof-of-Stake. Right now miners are parasites to the network. The only owners of the network are actual bitcoin holders.
1148  Economy / Speculation / Re: Rally!!!!! on: June 09, 2015, 11:44:35 AM
Rally confirmed: tonight I had a dream of BTC price making a sudden upward move and then went full retard going massively UP UP UP, breaking the barrier of 240$, making the weekly parabolic SAR turn into full bull mode.
1149  Economy / Speculation / Re: Big picture.. on: June 05, 2015, 12:44:12 AM
The major weakness of bitcoin is that most of the coins were already distributed/mined in the first 5-6 years.
The system gives little incentive to continue mining as rewards are scarce PLUS initial distribution might be to people that current elite does not trust (mostly not one of "them").
This gives impetus to talk about "blockchain" vs "bitcoin" as they can invest in the former via new companies and software development, but not really in the latter (without it going sky high at the first serious accumulation attempt).
The fact that mining is 2/3 finished gives very low $$ value to mining: just $330 mil in revenue can be had this year-these are miniscule numbers for large companies.

Honestly, I don't see how it could be solved and current bitcoin becoming a major currency.
The best bet would be that bitcoin 2.0 will sprung with some link to bitcoin 1.0 and we will be able to do an exchange into the "new bitcoin"

Those who think that mining will prevent it, I present two facts to consider:
1. As most mining manufacturers are mining by themselves instead of selling miners to individuals, most mining will be concentrated in 3-4 major players (at best). it is easy for a few large players to switch to a new compatible coin.
2. Paycoin experience shows that miners are a fickle bunch. As long as you allow them to easily switch to a more lucrative coin (where they can get more $$ RIGHT NOW), they would do so, as long as their miner is compatible.

I feel no empathy for the miners for their expensive ASICs that will become worthless if we changed the protocol accordingly. The only thing that has any value in any debate about bitcoin's future is the number of coins you have because you can sign your opinion/vote with the private key to your coins and we can calculate the sum of votes in a democratic way. That said, I'd prefer to see bitcoin evolving and competing rather than stagnating.

Bitcoin should switch to PoS mining because then miners and stakeholders would be the same people and it would help to come to a consensus with much less effort in the future. Stakeholders would then be the owners of Bitcoin and it would solve every fucking problem we currently have due to not having a clear authority to decide which way to go.
1150  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: [ANN] B&C Exchange - A decentralized exchange paying BTC dividends - 77% funded on: June 04, 2015, 04:08:21 PM
Once I have received my blockshares, should I start mining right away or wait until someone publishes their data feed for voting?
1151  Economy / Speculation / Re: Big picture.. on: June 04, 2015, 03:48:09 PM
I'm slowly getting worried that even though BTC will perform very well this year it will not be because bitcoin is so awesome and its opponents suddenly start to see the light but instead because some large scale shit will happen that brings down the conventional markets. When bad things start to happen they will happen all at once. Yes your bitcoins will be worth millions of dollars but at what cost? at what cost?

The markets should go into bear territory later this year when interest rates rise.  However for a crash to happen you need a catalyst like a major war or other political event, or for a major company to fail.  It is not inevitable.  I hope it doesn't happen even though it might benefit me in some ways.  Lots of people will get hurt in the process.

The bitcoin price is dropping fast right now.  I think it is because of the 20mb feud.  People who don't understand what is going on think that the sky is falling and pull all of their money out.  This is fine for me because i am patient and I love a chance to buy low.  When this thing is resolved expect the price to shoot back up.

Former NSA intelligence analyst John Schindler says a senior NATO official warned him, "we'd probably be at war by the summer, if we're lucky it won't be nuclear."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUYx6kLZeK4

Also, some Texan dude from Ixia said in CyCon last week that there will be a major cyber conflict event this year with human casualties.

All this in alignment with Jade Helm, NATO military exercises, California drought (possibly geoengineering) and chemtrails appearing as far as in the sky of eastern Europe lately.

If bitcoin's price was to go to the Moon again then I'm pretty sure it would correlate with some other grand scale events.


Surely it couldn't be purely a cyber event that results in human causalities....right?

It can in a sense that if a drone gets hacked and is sent to kill some civilians, for example.
1152  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Core or XT? POLL on: June 02, 2015, 12:48:58 PM
Bitcoin for everybody not just for the elite, super rich or startup services ....

Voted for XT

uhh I think, that you missed the point. please take your time and read about XT and recent news again..

So what are the recent news?

I am voting for XT under the assumption that THE ONLY THING they would do is to increase the max block size from 1 MiB to 8 MiB. If there anything else they want to implement as a part of the hard fork then I might not vote for XT. This poll sucks in a sense that it is unclear what XT would specifically introduce.

I just didn't see any connection or relation between elite super rich and bitcoin XT. and yes, I thought that major diff is just switch of block size. Is there some official announcement or discussion? It seems that, that nobody knows what exactly is happening.)

Bitcoin has the technical capability to have a provably fair stakeholder voting on its very block chain itself. I can sign my vote with the private key to my X% of bitcoins and publish the vote with the signature. If everyone did it then we could come to a consensus with decentralized and provably fair means. I wonder why hasn't this been put up very much. Who gives a shit what miners and companies think. It's the number of bitcoins that you have which should count as a vote. If a miner wants to vote then they should use their coins to vote. If a company X wants to vote for Bitcoin XT then they should buy some bitcoins to make their vote count.
1153  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Core or XT? POLL on: June 02, 2015, 11:45:25 AM
Bitcoin for everybody not just for the elite, super rich or startup services ....

Voted for XT

uhh I think, that you missed the point. please take your time and read about XT and recent news again..

So what are the recent news?

I am voting for XT under the assumption that THE ONLY THING they would do is to increase the max block size from 1 MiB to 8 MiB. If there anything else they want to implement as a part of the hard fork then I might not vote for XT. This poll sucks in a sense that it is unclear what XT would specifically introduce.
1154  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: CryptoGraffiti - Block Chain Message Encoder & Decoder on: June 02, 2015, 11:43:05 AM
Step #2 - Make this so that it write the data in the OP_RETURN, where it's supposed to go for easy debugging purposes (for other developers), or just so that you can leave a message in the way the blockchain in meant to be used for leaving messages.

Love what you guys are doing though, neat project!

I enabled OP_RETURN decoding for http://cryptograffiti.info/paystamper/ yesterday (refresh the page if you have it in cache, the version in bottom right corner should be 0.93). Just go to the monitor tab and monitor this address: 14E6WJjQbzBgxQ2LhjWehWVF9iNY191SRd. You will see this text "ascribe is hiring! ascribe.io/jobs" which is actually written after OP_RETURN (you can verify it from blockchain.info). However, currently only paystamper part of cryptograffiti is able to decode OP_RETURN messages. I hope bitikunn will implement it to cryptograffiti's read tab soon.

@Hyena:
Have you thought about enabling https?
This would be useful to hide the specific message someone is going to view (because https encrypts everything after the TLD)

Also a Tor hidden service version would be cool. Even cooler would be if that version would use the hidden service of blockchain.info instead of the clearnet version.


I have thought about enabling https although I'm not a big fan of it. Cryptograffiti actually supports application layer security but we haven't enabled it for the end users yet because it might not be so important. HTTPS could already be used to fetch the web page itself (using a self signed certificate) but for some reason I have made it to automatically switch to http. Perhaps because browsers are quite racist against self signed certificates.

I also support the idea of hosting cryptograffiti as an I2P or Tor hidden service. Alternatively, it could even be hosted in the torrent network, IPFS or Tahoe's P2P data storage platform. Cryptograffiti is already able to detect end decode JPG images from UTXOs so the clearnet cryptograffiti could at some point become controversial if someone decides to store CP images in the block chain. Should such a thing happen we would disable the automatic decoding of foul images. The hidden service version should be free of such censoring but for the clearnet one I'm just worried about my own ass Cheesy

To look even farther into the future, I would add more coins to the service. For example, a coin such as dogecoin with really cheap TX fees suits better for storing custom data. I would also like to get rid of the blockchain.info API's dependencies at some point to become autonomous.

Speaking of being autonomous, cryptograffiti has the potential to become a DAO (distributed autonomous organization) similarly to NuBits, B&C Exchange and Teehe). It would earn its revenue from the paystamper-like service that encodes your data for you in the block chain for a small fee. With the help of PeerShares it would be easy to distribute dividends and pass motions about how to enhance the services. It's clear that developing it from our free time as a hobby makes things rather slow to progress. If there is enough investor interest, it could be turned into a serious project and I wouldn't be against it. After all, there is a clear need for a service such as cryptograffiti.
1155  Economy / Speculation / Re: Big picture.. on: June 02, 2015, 10:53:38 AM
I'm slowly getting worried that even though BTC will perform very well this year it will not be because bitcoin is so awesome and its opponents suddenly start to see the light but instead because some large scale shit will happen that brings down the conventional markets. When bad things start to happen they will happen all at once. Yes your bitcoins will be worth millions of dollars but at what cost? at what cost?

The markets should go into bear territory later this year when interest rates rise.  However for a crash to happen you need a catalyst like a major war or other political event, or for a major company to fail.  It is not inevitable.  I hope it doesn't happen even though it might benefit me in some ways.  Lots of people will get hurt in the process.

The bitcoin price is dropping fast right now.  I think it is because of the 20mb feud.  People who don't understand what is going on think that the sky is falling and pull all of their money out.  This is fine for me because i am patient and I love a chance to buy low.  When this thing is resolved expect the price to shoot back up.

Former NSA intelligence analyst John Schindler says a senior NATO official warned him, "we'd probably be at war by the summer, if we're lucky it won't be nuclear."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUYx6kLZeK4

Also, some Texan dude from Ixia said in CyCon last week that there will be a major cyber conflict event this year with human casualties.

All this in alignment with Jade Helm, NATO military exercises, California drought (possibly geoengineering) and chemtrails appearing as far as in the sky of eastern Europe lately.

If bitcoin's price was to go to the Moon again then I'm pretty sure it would correlate with some other grand scale events.
1156  Economy / Speculation / Re: Falllling is right again, Bitcoin will continue the downtrend on: June 02, 2015, 10:27:23 AM
Lord Falllling, show us your omnipotence and smite all the heretic priests. Banish them from the bitcointalk forums so that only you and your followers would remain.
1157  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Core or XT? POLL on: June 02, 2015, 10:21:29 AM
Huh? You're saying all alts should just do a 100% premine and award their coins to whomever happens to hold bitcoin at a given snapshot in time? And that's more fair than altcoins launching with GPU/CPU mining in a competitive environment where anyone with a computer can be involved? I don't follow you.

There are alts that can't do such a thing for valid reasons. For example, it doesn't make sense to distribute nubits amongst all bitcoin holders just because they hold bitcoin. However, in many cases alts could have used such a wealth distribution. For example, in the case of dogecoin, litecoin, ethereum and namecoin.

I'm also far from convinced that PoS is more secure. Can you imagine the kind of weight Satoshi would throw in if he suddenly started staking BTC after a hiatus (if it functioned like the PoS coins I'm familiar with)? He'd be able to double-spend at will. I've inadvertently gotten 20 consecutive confirmations on an altcoin simply by not staking for a while and then jumping in. A coalition of BTC holders could wreak havoc with PoS.

PoS is much more secure because it's cheaper to buy the majority of mining power than buying the majority of all coins. Can you imagine someone trying to buy more than 50% of all bitcoins right now? The price would just go so high that it wouldn't make any sense to buy them.

How many coins Satoshi supposedly has? A million? It's less than 10%. He wouldn't be able to do anything with less than 10%. Also, I don't support pure PoS such as NXT. Pure PoS is weak but a hybrid such as peercoin is the real good solution. Peercoin started as a PoW coin but over time PoS mining was set to become more profitable than PoW mining. The reason for this is that PoS makes the coin weaker in the very beginning because then it is easier to hoard more than 50% of the coins (as it was with nextcoin). However, after enough coins has been distributed conventionally (using PoW) it becomes safe to switch to PoS mining.

edit:
I now switched my vote back to XT since Gavin admitted that 20 MiB was based on wrong calculations. I support increasing the max block size to 8 MiB as a means to postpone the problem for 4 more years and thus give time for the lightning network and similar solutions to be developed.
1158  Economy / Speculation / Re: Big picture.. on: June 01, 2015, 10:55:17 PM
I'm slowly getting worried that even though BTC will perform very well this year it will not be because bitcoin is so awesome and its opponents suddenly start to see the light but instead because some large scale shit will happen that brings down the conventional markets. When bad things start to happen they will happen all at once. Yes your bitcoins will be worth millions of dollars but at what cost? at what cost?
1159  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Core or XT? POLL on: June 01, 2015, 03:59:32 PM
I'm totally agree with bitcoin XT for 20MB
But how about lower bitcoin block time from 10 minutes become 1 minutes or so

this isn't really an issue, merchants could just accept pending transacction, node propagation can play a big role against any feasible attack to the network

Yes, I wouldn't lower the 10 minute confirmation time. Too much hard code has been written under the assumption that 1 block =  roughly 10 minutes. You can accept pending transactions but only deliver after enough confirmations has been received. it can be solved outside the block chain by merchants.
1160  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Core or XT? POLL on: June 01, 2015, 03:07:52 PM
Bitcoin has the perfect wealth distribution. All altcoins who started a competition against bitcoin instead of taking a snapshot of btc's ledger and using the same base wealth distribution made a wrong, greedy and selfish decision. To punish those alts for trying to compete with bitcoin with their petty little enhancements I would suggest upgrading bitcoin over time to support hybrid mining ( PoS + PoW similarly to peercoin ) and block chain based stakeholder voting similarly to peershares. This ASIC centralization should be terminated and replaced with PoS mining which is much better security model.
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