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1361  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: February 07, 2024, 05:01:23 PM
It was a very tense week for Real Madrid and Girona, especially for Girona. Because a defeat will make them further away from Real Madrid who are now in front of them with a distance of 2 points.
For Real Madrid themselves it must be the same, if they lose then Girona will be able to shift them at the top of the table. Real Madrid won at the first meeting with a good score too, when the match took place at Girona headquarters. with capital like that of course it will make the confidence of Real Madrid will be even greater.
But Girona is also not without opportunities, during this season they also played a good game, and until now only Real Madrid can beat them. They will certainly be motivated to avenge their defeat in the first meeting.
1362  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: February 07, 2024, 04:40:42 PM
Atletico Madrid is an opponent that Inter Milan deserves to be wary of if you look at the strength that Atletico Madrid itself has this season. Meanwhile, Inter Milan is also very good this season so apart from being difficult to predict how their match will play, it is also quite possible that their match will be more intense because both of them are teams that both have good strengths this season. I also agree more with what you said that Simone Inzaghi must have special tactics when facing Atletico Madrid in the Champions League this season.
What should be their special tactics? By the way, Simeone also changed his tactics, now this is not the Atletico that is primarily worried about defense, they are also very active in attack. I would have said before that I expected boring positional play in this match, but now I think that both teams can score.
The first match will be at Joseppe Meazza, and it seems to me that this is in the hands of Atlético, they will try not to lose in this match and win the second match at home.
They must play without burden if they want the tactics given by the coach to work well. Because in some matches that I have seen, sometimes the tactics are actually good, but the players play with a burden that ultimately makes the tactics run apart.
The coach should also in addition to providing strategies they must also pay close attention to the condition of the players in terms of mentality. Because it will also be very influential, especially the opponents they will face are also clubs that cannot be underestimated, or in other words the club is a strong club.
Inter Milan and Atletico Madrid must see things like this, because in terms of actual strength they are also not much different.
1363  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: February 07, 2024, 04:23:51 PM
I think between Mainz and Union Berlin, Union Berlin is the team that is better. They're at least have got five wins so far in this season. Mainz have only got one and they do not have a single win in the last five matches. Meanwhile, Union Berlin does have two wins in the last five matches. In the last five matches at the same time, Mainz has been able to get a lot of points with draws. So it might be possible that they will get one point from this match because we also know that Union Berlin is not playing very well. Some points might be shared.
Yes overall looking at what they have achieved this season, Union Berlin are still better than Mainz. But that is not enough to make them able to win in this match, the article Mainz will play as the host too, it is an advantage for them.
I won't be surprised by any result, whether Mainz can win, Union Berlin go home with 3 points or a draw will be the final result. Because in this meeting both clubs are at an alarming level.
Motivation will definitely be owned by both clubs, because they will also definitely see the opportunities of the opponents they will face who are not in good condition either. So they can take advantage of it to be able to beat each other and take advantage of the situation they are facing.
1364  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: February 07, 2024, 04:01:22 PM
The previous victory over West Ham had to be paid off by the injury suffered by Lisandro Martinez and it was reported that he would be out for 8 weeks.
Erik Ten Hag should be grateful that he's team is beginning to fall back to action this season. Westham United suffered huge defeats against Manchester United at Old Trafford. David Moyes was highly dissapointed because the results he recorded wasn't the expectations he had with his team when they visited the Red Devils. Lisandro Martinez injury is a lengthy one because there's no specific results for thr Argentine. He just recover and now we're seeing him on the trends, he's going to be out for 8 weeks, one of the bad news that the Red Devils wouldn't welcome.
Despite winning, they must not be complacent with what they achieved this week, because their performance is inconsistent, it could be that now they win and the next week they could feel defeat again with a bad game too.
I rarely do they cleansheet in one match, is it true that the goalkeeper position is Onana? Lol
But I also have to appreciate their hard work in this match because they can minimize the mistakes they usually make in previous matches. Their job is not finished just because they can win in this match, because there are still many matches they have to play in the next week, and they must be able to play as well as possible.
1365  Other / Off-topic / Re: Do you think gambling every day is better? on: February 07, 2024, 01:39:54 PM

Greed contributes to the reason gamblers go for the lost money. A lot of gamblers are aware of the low rate of winning chances in gambling. But due to greed which controls their emotions and hinders the gambler from seeing the real purpose of gambling they go ahead to gamble every day. Those who wish to neglect the usage of gambling for leisure, tend to be the gamblers who chase losses. However, it ends up really tough for the gambler, because he'd be losing out lots of money. Which affects the emotional state of the gambler. And how he feels about his losses. No one is comfortable with losing out on a huge sum of money consistently. Those thoughts end up eating deep into the brain of the gambler, and he'll be confused on the type of decision he's made for himself. Such things may not allow the gambler to recognize that such habit has been in him for so long that avoiding it would be a difficult task. In most cases of gamblers who spend their daily free time gambling, they end up developing it as a habit, and hardly stop it. The behavior grows to a stage where there begin to tell close friends about the need to gamble every day. A person who is not capable of controlling such habit, shouldn't indulge in such a gambling routine.

Obviously, because gamblers who have such strong greed within themselves will not be able to turn it into good behavior, especially if it is based on the desire to get back the finances lost during gambling, this really motivates gamblers to act greedily. in making decisions. And people who are greedy do not easily advise in various ways. If they want to get out of their greedy nature, they must be fully aware that it will make them even more miserable than before.
Dear Langjahy, if someone can't control their bad nature, it's better to just stop so that it doesn't get even messier than before.

True, it takes a very long time to get back what you have lost in gambling, and I think that even if you do everything possible over a long period of time the chances are very slim that you will get back what you have lost, because to get back what you have lost it means that you have to put money back into gambling, or simply put you need a very big win in order to get back what you have lost during your involvement. This is why we are always advised to put the amount that we can afford in gambling because with this then you will not think of chasing or returning something that has been lost, it is too impossible and as you said that what will happen is that the number of losses will increase. One solution is that you must really change your perspective on gambling in order to be able to become a responsible gambler in the sense of being able to accept whatever the results at the end of the session. On the other hand, self-control is very important because this is what will minimize emotions and prevent you from the name of greed which will indirectly make you avoid a large number of defeats due to uncontrolled emotions.
1366  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Rich or poor gambler, who should risk more? on: February 07, 2024, 01:19:15 PM
Yes, I understand that gambling has the possibility to change your fate when you really manage to get good luck with a very large win that can turn poor people into rich or rich people get richer, but what is a fact is that there are no consistent results in gambling that can make their wealth will not last long because the victory will only happen once in a dozen times they do. And on the other hand if you compare who should take risks in gambling between the rich and the poor I think the answer is rich or poor for the problem of taking risks all of that is up to them because only they can measure the amount of risk they have to take by looking first at their financial capabilities.

If they are poor then it is obvious that they will take less risk because it is to balance with their financial strength, and for rich gamblers then maybe the amount of risk they take will definitely be greater than poor gamblers, but in this case everyone's point of view is different, the point is that a small risk taken by a rich person will certainly look large when seen by a poor person and vice versa according to a rich person the amount of small risk taken by a poor person must according to a poor person it is a significant amount. This is a simple distinction that refers to the financial strength of the two individuals, and the main point is that no matter rich or poor they are always advised to take a level of risk that they can afford to take for safety because this is gambling that always involves risk.
1367  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: gambling for fun vs gambling for the financial benefit. on: February 07, 2024, 12:58:38 PM
All gamblers can get any amount of winnings if they are really lucky but on the other hand the problem is like you said that not all gamblers can get the real winnings, I mean when you get a big win but on the other hand you can't cash it in because you see something more tantalizing like a much bigger win so it makes you put all your money into gambling again which is basically the big win that you always think is nothing more than a "chance" or I mean it is still uncertain and means that it cannot be denied that it is a possibility that can happen in the end you lose all the money from the previous win.

This is the danger when you apply greed to something that is uncertain, basically this is a situation that is always experienced by addicts, which when they win they will be more greedy and when they lose they will be more curious / So in this situation you really won't get anything better, because even if you manage to get a win but not necessarily you can cash it in because of the greed that is difficult to ignore.

Yeah that emotion also happens to me sometimes and basically, these feelings sum up when I win big after doing all in a gamble. So when I do all in and turns out it win I just want to do all in again and win again but sometimes you can face it big lose after win big and not withdrawing the money.

So to defeat the emotion after win Big I just withdraw the money. 

Yes, it is a situation that most gamblers are fooled by their own feelings, they always prioritize satisfaction and one of them is like doing all this again even though basically they have managed to get a win, even though on the other hand the possibility of defeat will continue to exist and lurk them in every situation and condition so that this is the reason or cause why in the end you experience defeat in the sense that all the results at the end of the session do not match what you expected.

So this is the importance of maintaining awareness when you are gambling, the fact is that even if you manage to get a win but on the other hand it is not a really good situation for you if you basically have not succeeded or have not agreed with yourself to cash out, as I said earlier because it is not easy to ignore greed when a gambler is in such a situation. The main point and what can be a solution is that you must be able to apply firmness to consciousness when you are gambling, because with a good level of consciousness then when you manage to get a win you will be able to decide to cash out because you remember that the possibility of losing is still very possible.
1368  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you a generous gamblers on: February 07, 2024, 12:05:46 PM
Well that's the point why we better keep the winnings that we managed to get a secret, the fear is that there will definitely be some people including friends who ask for part of the winnings that we managed to get, if indeed it is not a problem for you, go ahead but I think it is not uncommon for scenarios like this to end in the destruction of friendships where you don't want to share the winnings that you managed to get but on the other hand you even tell or even brag about the victory to others, especially your friends. In the event that you're not sure how to get the most out of the game, then you'll want to make sure you've got a good idea of what you're getting into.

Yes actually the goal is for that, to minimize the occurrence of problems that actually don't need to be a problem, but the name of the person will always look for our fault points especially if they don't like us. What you do is very good by choosing to treat some of your friends without telling the amount of winnings, and other things that are feared are true as you said that if they know the amount of our winnings then it is very likely that they will also try to gamble with the intention and purpose of wanting to get the winning results like us, but it is very likely that in the end they are not as lucky as us, so it is better to prevent it by keeping it a secret.
I just thought about friends who weren't close to me and would come to me and ask for a share of the winnings. It doesn't matter, but I don't want to give away part of the winnings because our friendship is not very close. I would rather give some of my winnings to friends who are truly friends than those who only come when I'm happy but stay away from me when I'm sad. Apart from that, I also don't want to end up being arrogant because I was able to win that big win and will say that I am a real gambler. No, I don't want that to happen because it will make me unable to respect other people. And it can also make my friendships with my friends fall apart.

Yes, people who don't like us will always look for our weak points and attack us in various ways. We must try to distance ourselves from things like that so we don't experience problems. I prefer to buy them food and drinks without telling them anything about the winnings and I might say there are bonuses to what I do so they don't suspect it and interrogate me. But if it were my close friend, I would tell it because my close friends always tell me many things about them. Apart from that, we don't need to make people interested in gambling, especially since we don't know how good their self-control is in gambling, so if they become addicted to gambling, maybe we will be the ones to blame.

True and friends like that usually come when they are in need, or that means coming for a profit and when the money from your winnings is gone then the next they will look indifferent like people who don't know you, I have experienced this where a friend who is not too close to me knows about my winnings which in the end he behaves very well at that time like looking for my attention and when I have given him part of the winnings then the next day immediately disappears without any ado, as I said above like people who don't know when they have gotten part of our winnings.

Although I am quite sincere but sometimes it makes me a little annoyed too when I see his behavior, this is also a lesson for me that don't be too kind to people who actually come to benefit themselves, and lately when I get another win I usually just tell my real friends to enjoy and enliven my winnings. On the other hand what you did was a smart move by not telling anything about your winnings and preferring to tell them that it was bonus money for what you did and I'm sure they won't suspect anything and will probably just think that it was bonus money from your work. The other thing is that yes it is very true that it is possible by telling about our winnings that they may follow what we do but not necessarily they can have good self-control so this can make them lose a lot of money because they want to get a big win like us and if in the end it always fails then maybe I agree with you that we are the ones who will be blamed.
1369  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Pay off DEBT by do Gambling? think again before you loss more on: February 07, 2024, 11:44:31 AM
I have a hanging out friend who is having trouble paying his house installments, he wanted to borrow money from me but I didn't give it to him because I didn't have the amount he was borrowing at that time, I advised him to borrow from another friend but their answer was still the same, finally, he was a little desperate and with the little money he had he put the money into the online slot application, unfortunately, instead of succeeding in doubling his money, he lost all his money because he lost in the online slot application

The valuable message that can be taken from my friend above is never take risks to gamble to pay off your debts, the pressure is very big, the chance is very small that you can pay off your debts, often you end up losing even more and losing your money. look for loans, sell your valuables or look for part-time work to pay off your debts, is a good way rather than playing the small money you have in gambling
Your friend lost his money because he was very much in need of the money and didn't know that gambling is not a good job for one to look for money over there.
You can gamble but don't get in a hurry to win because you want to pay bills. This is a good example that shows that a gambler should not gamble because he has bills urgently, by doing this you will lose like your friend. It's better to pay with the little money you have than to gamble with the ones you have. When your gamble recklessly you will also lose recklessly. When you are not financial capable of something you have to wait until the money comes.

This is the mistake when you make gambling as an alternative to making money with the aim of paying off debts, what will happen is just the opposite, as experienced by the person you mean where instead of getting money but instead losing money and certainly cannot pay debts. As you said, gambling is not a job because there is no certainty for anyone to be able to win, and that means it really doesn't make sense to make gambling a place to earn, especially if your needs are urgent such as paying debts or other things.

On the other hand, this incident can be used as an example that it is indeed a fact that gambling cannot be used as a place to earn considering that there is absolutely no guarantee or certainty that can make you win at the end of the session, and what happens instead is that the situation will get worse where you lose some money and of course you will feel unusual pressure due to the urgent situation of debt plus losing money from gambling. Gambling should be a fun activity to occupy your leisure time without placing any expectations on winning because it is not easy to get lucky.
1370  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If a addict lives within, which method would you choose to help them on: February 06, 2024, 01:05:27 PM
The first approach would be the best in my opinion. You can’t force a person to stop gambling if they are already addicted. If the pressure becomes too much, they may gamble behind your back or cut your off from their lives. To quit an addiction, the addict has to first come to terms with the reality that he has a gambling problem. Conversations with family members and loved ones will help the person deal with their problem.
But at least you are trying out to help them or give out advises but somewhat its true on what you have said that it would really be that still depending with their own self realizations.
We do know that there would really be that sense of responsibility on the time that they would really be doing gambling. Now that if its one of the family members had fall down into such addiction
then this is where they would really be making themselves that doing those impulsive things on which it would really be that become the result on messing up your life with.
As part of the family then it would really be just that right that you should really be helping them at least since its our family.

Helping others in anything that leads to goodness is always recommended especially in helping them to get out of the addiction zone, I understand that addiction is a very difficult disease to overcome because it involves a person's mindset that is wrong in viewing gambling, And of course as you said that even if you provide help to them in any way such as through a suggestion it is still very unlikely in the end that there will be a change for the better if it is very difficult for them to reach their level of awareness because as I said above that this disease lies in a person's mindset, even though in general according to normal people it is wrong but according to them it is normal and this is what makes it difficult for them to reach their awareness.

If this addiction is owned by one of your family then obviously the family is the first to help them to get out of this bad addiction phase, and on the other hand because usually the closest people especially family have a considerable influence on them and I think at least with this they will be more able to listen and consider various suggestions that come from their family members to be able to achieve awareness and change mindset.
1371  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: gambling for fun vs gambling for the financial benefit. on: February 06, 2024, 12:24:57 PM
That's how it should be since losing is inevitable. Therefore we must be prepared for this kind of scenario. If a gambler can't handle such situation because of the high hopes to double his wager, then his main desire is not to really have fun but to gain. It's a human nature to feel sad when we experience to lose but it's already a given situation that we should keep in mind before playing. Thus if you can't bear losing your money in gambling then don't force yourself to play to avoid having gambling problems.

Yes, winning can give us happiness, especially if the win is big. We want to get another big win and because of that, we will be lured back into continuing gambling even though we might not get as lucky as before. We will become greedy because we want an even bigger win so we are willing to sacrifice the winnings we have earned to get another big win. And at that moment, we will see that the big win will not always come after we win because it will also depend on our luck. If we are lucky, we can get that big win, but if not, we will only lose money, which could even take away all the money we have won. That's why we must be wise and know what we must do after winning. And it's better for us to immediately end the gambling game after getting a big win to enjoy the winnings and celebrate with our friends or family.

yeah that is human nature and every person has it, but what makes it different from other people is how we control it. Double wager is always a tempting after you win very big and hope that you can make double it again. and also it comes when you lose so much double wager are comes to you and hope that you are going to win this time.

Just opinion after winning big we should probably started to think about withdrawal  Cool

All gamblers can get any amount of winnings if they are really lucky but on the other hand the problem is like you said that not all gamblers can get the real winnings, I mean when you get a big win but on the other hand you can't cash it in because you see something more tantalizing like a much bigger win so it makes you put all your money into gambling again which is basically the big win that you always think is nothing more than a "chance" or I mean it is still uncertain and means that it cannot be denied that it is a possibility that can happen in the end you lose all the money from the previous win.

This is the danger when you apply greed to something that is uncertain, basically this is a situation that is always experienced by addicts, which when they win they will be more greedy and when they lose they will be more curious / So in this situation you really won't get anything better, because even if you manage to get a win but not necessarily you can cash it in because of the greed that is difficult to ignore.
1372  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling Management on: February 06, 2024, 12:00:00 PM
Mixing up your bets and games is a good move and using profits from one round for the next is a smart shift. But to keep things fun and not risky, make sure you set clear limits on how much you're okay with betting and don't forget about time to give yourself breaks. It's important to enjoy gambling without it taking over your life

A very good point that I can take from this idea is to use the profits from one session for another session or the next session, I agree that this is a good and smart method rather than you applying greed by entering the entire amount of money along with your first capital money. This kind of method should be maintained because with this obviously then you will not suffer a significant amount of losses, for risk management issues, especially limits, obviously cannot be ignored because this is the main thing that must be considered and continue to be applied as long as you are still involved in gambling activities. Knowing when to start and knowing when to end is a very good approach, because gambling should be fun and not stressful, and with methods like this then I think you will stay safe in addition to getting fun or entertainment.
1373  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you a generous gamblers on: February 06, 2024, 11:28:22 AM
True, if the amount of winnings is not too large and maybe only enough for your own needs then obviously it is better to keep it a secret from others, especially our friends, but if the winnings are very large then I think there is nothing wrong with telling one of our friends at least to enjoy together because on the other hand this can also increase solidarity between friends which is also very likely when they get a win for example they will also definitely remember us. Honestly, I always do this but I choose only to one friend who really knows thanks and this is really useful because on the other hand when I don't have money to gamble sometimes my friends always come to share a small portion of their winnings that I can use for anything one of them for gambling.

On the other hand, if you really intend to keep it a secret then try to really keep it a secret, don't let your winnings be known by anyone, especially friends because what is feared is that they will definitely talk about you behind by saying that you are one of the stingy friends or whatever the point is negative things just because they don't get a share of your winnings, and not infrequently because of this friendship relationships can become bad. So even though the actual victory is entirely our right but sometimes there are friends who are too demanding until it becomes a problem.
If the win is so big, I think it's better to keep it hidden from many people and only share the story with people close to us. We don't want many people coming to our house to give congratulations, but among the many congratulations, there will be people who want to ask for a share of the money because they will say many things to us. Sometimes, we don't need to share our happy moments with many people because we don't know what the people around us are like unless they are very close to us. I also choose friends I trust and only share them with truly loyal friends because, without them, I am nothing. These are the ones who are always with me and in my life, so I feel that sharing moments of victory with them is okay because they need to know because they also do the same thing to me and other friends.

That's why I always choose who I must tell about my winnings to prevent anything negative in my friendships. And even if I want to celebrate with lots of friends, I will just buy food and drinks to enjoy together without saying that I managed to win a lot of money from gambling. I also don't want to make them curious about gambling, and in the end, they will try gambling even though I know many of my friends don't have good self-control. I just prevented that curiosity from developing in their minds so I only shared that moment of victory with friends who were really close to me.

Well that's the point why we better keep the winnings that we managed to get a secret, the fear is that there will definitely be some people including friends who ask for part of the winnings that we managed to get, if indeed it is not a problem for you, go ahead but I think it is not uncommon for scenarios like this to end in the destruction of friendships where you don't want to share the winnings that you managed to get but on the other hand you even tell or even brag about the victory to others, especially your friends. In the event that you're not sure how to get the most out of the game, then you'll want to make sure you've got a good idea of what you're getting into.

Yes actually the goal is for that, to minimize the occurrence of problems that actually don't need to be a problem, but the name of the person will always look for our fault points especially if they don't like us. What you do is very good by choosing to treat some of your friends without telling the amount of winnings, and other things that are feared are true as you said that if they know the amount of our winnings then it is very likely that they will also try to gamble with the intention and purpose of wanting to get the winning results like us, but it is very likely that in the end they are not as lucky as us, so it is better to prevent it by keeping it a secret.
1374  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Pay off DEBT by do Gambling? think again before you loss more on: February 06, 2024, 11:02:13 AM
the chances of winning or multiplying the money they bring which indirectly they like to rule out the possibility of losing which in the end when the result turns out to be losing then usually they are unable to accept the fact because it does not match their wishes.

This is one of the sad but true facts. Whenever we play, we never think about the possibility of losing our deposit. We gamblers always think that we will win something big or at least we will double our deposit. Or at least some profits from the deposit. We do not think that we could lose our bets. When it comes to gambling, nothing is guaranteed. But, some of us always like to be confident in ourselves while we all know the fact that the house always wins.

We should not forget that everything has a positive and a negative side. Losing is a dark side of gambling which harm you financially. So, everyone is advised to gamble with the money they could afford to lose. But, how many of us care?

Yes, what you said is always in someone's mind when gambling, most gamblers carry such mindsets and beliefs, as I said above that they like to rule out the possibility of losing in gambling so that they only think about winning and never think about what if in the end they lose, because obviously in gambling there is absolutely nothing that can ensure or guarantee you to win at the end of the session. In the end, this mindset and belief will make them feel even more disappointed at the end of the session when it turns out that the results really lose.

Yes, that's the point, everything that has the possibility of profit will always have the possibility of loss, for example in business which is always about profit and loss, and especially in gambling which is basically just a betting activity that whatever dedication you do will not be fully useful because of the randomness system applied by the casino. So in essence gambling is nothing more than a game of chance, not only about the chances of winning but the possibility of losing is also a sure thing, so you have also said that this is the reason why gamblers should always put the amount that can be accounted for.
1375  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can you make gambling a profession - a full time job on: February 05, 2024, 05:05:23 PM
I think this only makes sense (make gambling a profession) if you own your own casino or sportsbook.

Exactly, and I would also say the same thing as you said above that making gambling a profession or a full-time job can only be done when you are someone who owns the casino itself, because as we know that in the end the real profit is only for the house. On the other hand the other reason is because there is absolutely nothing that can guarantee you can win in every session you play, gambling is always about winning and losing and not winning and winning, meaning there is a possibility for anyone to end up losing money, and also this means that there is absolutely no consistent victory in gambling, You will only win when you are really lucky and because of this why it makes no sense to make gambling as a place of income or main job, we must understand that the name of the necessities of life is intolerable, meaning that you must always have money to pay for your living needs and the question is what if the situation is that you really need money to buy food but it turns out that you lose at gambling? This is why we must open our eyes and look at gambling rationally.
1376  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling Management on: February 05, 2024, 04:40:33 PM
This is the importance of why we must be able to limit the gambling activities that we do based on the right understanding, because after all gambling is nothing more than a game of probability which means only a game of chance which means you can win or lose at the end of the session, I'm sure if you already know that gambling is an activity that involves risk then obviously you will not dare to take actions that you are basically unable to account for when you lose, and also do not consider gambling as a place to earn because with this usually greed will be very difficult for you to ignore, in the sense that you gamble with the aim of always pursuing a much bigger win. But on the other hand, thank goodness if now you have been able to change your approach in a better direction by first securing the money that was made as initial capital and continuing gambling using pure money from the winnings alone, I hope you can maintain this change.
1377  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What remarkable thing have you achieved with the money you won from gambling? on: February 05, 2024, 04:20:37 PM
So far I have never won a large amount in gambling, if I were given the opportunity I would prefer to invest the money, that way I will get interest on the money I invested and withdraw the interest and be able to use it for my needs, I don't know Using this money for useless things will change your life for the better

We are the same buddy, I also have never gotten a very big win like what some of my friends managed to get including people who might be here, I'm sure that everyone wants to get that big win but for myself honestly I am one of those people who don't really force it to happen because I know that it's not that easy and obviously requires a large enough capital to get a win like that. On the other hand if for example I managed to get a fairly decent amount of winnings then obviously I would do the same thing as you, indeed that is better to do, namely by choosing to cash out and put most of the winnings for other things outside of gambling that do have the potential to develop the amount of money such as investing or opening a business such as a shop that can be our side income later. I think this idea is better when we manage to get a win than using it to gamble again which basically has the potential to lose your money again.
It's good to hear someone who doesnt chase the wind, knowing the chances and investment. I consider any triumph, regardless of magnitude, a victory and a wonderful surprise in chance.

When luck strikes, Im all for cashing out and investing or beginning a side business. Its smart to transform a quick win into something permanent. I like this idea of long-term growth over gambling thrills. This technique emphasizes savvy play on and off the casino floor.

Supporting recreational gambling, I remind myself and others that the thrill, highs and lows, and player camaraderie make it worthwhile. Winning big is great, but making sensible, cautious decisions with your winnings? Thats the jackpot. The gambler must balance the thrill with life's financial obligations.

Yes because after all it is a futile effort if we use the winning money to return to gambling, it will only worsen the situation when in the end we lose, therefore for me it is better to prioritize precautions rather than chasing something uncertain, as you said that chasing victory in gambling is like chasing the wind, because there is no certainty and guarantee for anyone to get a win back at the end of the session and this is the reason why it is better for us to take precautions, one of which is cashing out the winnings when we get it rather than ending up with regret.

We have to be wise and mature in thinking, there are still many other things that we have to think about, especially in terms of living needs, getting a win in gambling is not easy if we are difficult to get lucky, therefore it is recommended to be wise in using the money from the winnings, one of which is to allocate some of that money to other things as I said earlier that do have the potential to make our money grow and one of them may be investment. Because obviously this will be very useful to help increase our finances or income and also on the other hand this can also be used as savings for old age later when we are no longer able to work. So on the other hand I always say to my friends who managed to get a big win with the idea "it's useless to get a big win if basically the money is lost again in gambling".
1378  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Are you a generous gamblers on: February 05, 2024, 04:05:34 PM

Of course, gamblers who won bet could have treat the entire neighbor from your winners. But to be serious, yes, my maybe close friends and families only, not those free loaders that you are only known when you win. After that they will act as if they didn't recognized you in the streets.

Sharing is caring as well, and maybe not everyone here believes in Karma, but I do. I believed that more wins will come to me if I have shares the blessing that whoever you believed is your God because of your good deeds.

But it all comes back to each gambler, because I think there are also many gamblers who are quite stingy even though they managed to get a big enough win, they will not want to share any of their winnings with anyone and in any way including their close friends. I think that's their thing anyway, but for me, usually I always treat one of my friends who is a real friend when I managed to get a win, I always go to entertainment places like watching movies or to a coffee place to enjoy the money from my winnings. Well that's right, we also have to choose people who really know the sign of gratitude, in the sense that you don't give some of the money to people who will say differently if the situation is behind you, so that's why I always invite or treat one of my close friends only.

For the problem of rewards for the good we have done to others, yes, I believe that one day I will be able to get something that can make me happy, not only in the world of gambling but it can happen in your real life, so do not hesitate to do good.
1379  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Pay off DEBT by do Gambling? think again before you loss more on: February 05, 2024, 03:35:39 PM
It's not impossible unless you are lucky. But the risk is too high, instead of having money to pay debts, if it is suddenly lost in gambling, it will be an additional problem for you to think about, That's a fact that anyone should think of. If the money you have is supposedly used to pay your debts, whatever happens, using it in gambling should not be done.
But it will be difficult for them to get that luck. We know that luck will not always come when gambling, but that doesn't stop them from chasing wins. But if they borrow money from other people, they will only make the problem bigger where they will also have difficulty paying off their debts, especially if they experience loss and lose all their money. We should gamble using our own money rather than borrowing money to avoid even bigger problems. But if the money you have is limited, you should not think about multiplying your money by gambling because that doesn't guarantee you can make money, especially since gambling is just for fun.
That's why I stated that it's impossible. You can't always rely on luck, especially in situations like gambling. Sometimes people may feel lucky, but they don't know the result until it happens. They may end up losing all their money trying to pay their debts before they realize that they are not lucky enough to make money by gambling.

Because luck always cannot be known when it comes and when it goes, so this is what sometimes deceives gamblers, such as when they are in a winning situation at that time they apply greed because they think that they can get a bigger win but in the end it turns out that the results at the end of the session are disappointing which makes them lose everything, one of the reasons is because luck is no longer on their side, or meaning it is gone. But gamblers do not understand this, in such a situation what happens is that they will get emotional because they do not accept the defeat which makes them vent their emotions by putting a much larger amount. Usually this kind of situation will mostly trap gamblers to finally enter the addiction phase, so I agree with you that don't make gambling a place or intermediary to pay debts, it's too absurd.
1380  Economy / Gambling / Re: How to self exclude from anonymous gambling sites on: February 05, 2024, 12:27:41 PM
After Liverpool lost to Arsenal, this is a good opportunity for Manchester City to get closer to Liverpool who are at the top of the standings. Manchester City will visit Brentford's headquarters, even though they are the visiting team, they are a stronger club compared to the hosts, so they have a very big chance to take home 3 points from this match.
Brentford itself is in a bad condition, they were only able to achieve 1 win from the last 5 matches they played, and they had to lose the other 4. With the reverse situation from Manchester City, Manchester City should not have too much difficulty beating them in this match. However, they still cannot underestimate their opponents.
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