Ver, Wu, Gavin, all these BitCH shills here on bitcointalk wtf is the matter with you?
These people must have been bought out. But by who?
Shills were always here kinda miss NLC, but Gavin hurts the most. Et tu, Brute? |
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That BTC25k can still do a lot of damage, but could also be him covering hist shorts on finix to minimize 3rd party exposure i.e. if finex stop trades etc...
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Now we see the 2nd part of that plan |
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Wow. Last few days have been like a hurricane. It's flying everywhere.
I decided to increase my BTC stash and bought in when it was around $7000.
Sold my BCH for BTC when it was aroudn $600.
Now I am confused. I will admit that I clearly do not understand what to do.
Should I hodl the BTC I bought @7000 or should I exchange it for an alt or BCH.
I need help.
Beautiful, just amazing how people lose their mind when they become greedy . Enjoy the dumpfest you deserve it I need help.
No one can help you except yourself ,just NEVER buy at the top.. NEVER Everybody wants some profit. That's why you invest in the first place. Secondly, if I was just "greedy" I would have already sold my BTC for BCH and jumped on the bandwagon. Instead I sold my BCH early on because I believed in the true Bitcoin. 7000 was never the top when 2x was in place. Then it was called off and everything went bonkers. All I am looking for is to understand what's going on. Can you name one advantage BCH offers over LTC or other ALTs? If not, then it's never a good idea to invest into something that you don't know. Emotional trading will just get you in trouble and will just make exchange money on their fees. Trade fundamentals and what you understand. |
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And now Wall St sweeping up the residue BTC3k buys  |
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Looks like institutional investors are going to get cheap BTC. Go figure.
This is what Ver and Co don't understand. They are going to lose their power, like the amateurs they are. The pros are going to clean up, like usual. Difficulty adjustment in under 16 hours, good luck to them. The part that you don't understand that Ver is a very very wealthy man. At this point it's not about money but rather power. He was being squeezed out of BTC so he's been trying to clamp on to power any way he can, and this is his last all or nothing battle. Worst case he still walks away multi millionaire that's exactly what I understand. and because of this last ditch effort he will lose his a power at a much faster rate. Serves the fucker right. People were calling him bitcoin jebus at one point. Then he started to loose control, so it was either go quietly into the night or take a however small chance at becoming bitcoin god. In either case he's set for many lifetimes to come. We're looking at what he chose right now |
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No need to panic. This is good for Bitcoin (the real one -- BTC). Let them pump all they have on their AltCash. When you have cancer you either sit and wait for your death, or you take the knife and cut it out. You will bleed, but you'll survive. Let's cut it out and move on.
Has anyone done the maths on how much more ammo this animal can possibly have left? Impossible to tell, it wasn't just Ver he also had the support of miners with lots of hash power, no telling how much they've been hoarding to dump for their Ver coin. |
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Can we now rename BCH into Ver tokens?  |
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Funny that lots of us sold BCH on the beginning and im wondering who has it now ?  It can fly really high suddenly That's why the cancellation of B2x, it'd be too much for them to absorb both. People already dumped their BCH and can't dump anymore |
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Calling it, Ver blew his load we're at $5575
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It's starting to go full retard now
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Imagine if Satoshi comes out, dump all his Bcash to tell the world BTC is the real coins  Or we could just get Donald Trump to tweet that the Bitcoin Cash leaders are short and fat. I'm not so sure about Trumps credibility, he might be causing inverse effect on this one |
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Looks like institutional investors are going to get cheap BTC. Go figure.
This is what Ver and Co don't understand. They are going to lose their power, like the amateurs they are. The pros are going to clean up, like usual. Difficulty adjustment in under 16 hours, good luck to them. The part that you don't understand that Ver is a very very wealthy man. At this point it's not about money but rather power. He was being squeezed out of BTC so he's been trying to clamp on to power any way he can, and this is his last all or nothing battle. Worst case he still walks away multi millionaire |
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They can pump BCH to sky and above, just keep buying while miners don't sell. But they cannot dump more BTC than they own
Yep, what they are doing is basically kicking themselves out of BTC. Once they have none left the can't manipulate anymore. What's more they can't pump BCH as effectively either, they better hope that there are other users out there that want BCH. Because to keep the price at these levels is going to require a lot of new money each day. BTC will be stronger after this, because there will be no more Roger Ver and Co around trying to fuck things up. This is probably the end of BTC being played with by amateurs/early adopters like Ver, the professionals will now move in, for better or worse. There are only 16.5MM BTC out there. Before you attempt to manipulate it, you'll have to gather a good chunk of it. It was easy for early adopters now, it just can't be done without pushing the price into 5 figure territory. And i do agree this is the last bang for Ver, he got to go all in here if he has any chance. Otherwise B2x is canceled and BCH would float into oblivion Edit: Think of it as much needed distribution. Now if LOADED could RESPONSIBLY dump some of his stash his wallet scares me, how many island one would need |
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They can pump BCH to sky and above, just keep buying while miners don't sell. But they cannot dump more BTC than they own
Only a matter of time until the sandstorm settles. Bravo, you get a cookie! |
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They can pump BCH to sky and above, just keep buying while miners don't sell. But they cannot dump more BTC than they own
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Lol #2 503313 0000000000000000081819ff158d06e56c00845298eca6fd398fa32c81e20e5e 2017-11-12 03:59 BTC.TOP BIP9NYA 15 3,699.06090444 4,864,265.09 0.00297455 3.91 0.95 4.380 503312 0000000000000000061b67746c9e3513698bdded041d2241e587915f12927715 2017-11-12 03:59 ViaBTC BIP9 57 1,681.15484215 2,210,718.50 0.00966104 12.70 0.47 27.567 503311 000000000000000003380a4d26f053b7f203d8619917ef1321db2006b440ef66 2017-11-12 03:59 BTC.TOP BIP9SWNYA 1 12.50000000 16,437.50 0.00000000 0.00 0.00 0.255 503310 00000000000000000382daa2888a98c2e3078b0466b8eae0771346b1c54e8254 2017-11-12 03:59 AntPool BIP9 1 12.50000000 16,437.50 0.00000000 0.00 0.00 4 blocks per minute... "Vision of Satoshi"  i don't mind that a broken shit coin is pumping. what bothers me is what will i say to the children? That however hard you might try, and however deep your pockets are, you just can't go against the market  |
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The strange thing here is that despite the massive volumes, crypto market cap is still mostly the same.
Latest move is caused by Wu and Ver selling their BTC stash and buying BCH trash. There is no fiat involved. This is why market cap measured in fiat is the same. Seriously, how much f***ing bitcoins do they have?! If I had 20BN the last thing I'd do is play stupid crypto wars like this. Go figure. Moving BTC around in anticipation of BTC bear mode. Look at big alts on 1 day candlesticks, including BCH, they grow after the ATH of BTC. Take your positions. But these movements don't bother long time hodler. Bear mode is possibly maximum 4.5k... So not too far away! Hodling steady alas a bit shaky  Better to sleep over this and see our neighbour ethereum relocating tomorrow  I'll miss it. We're talking about control of THE crypto currency, it's not a card game anymore. Lot's and lots of 0s at play here |
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Unless significant hash power leaves all at once, no effect. On that note when is the next retargeting, most likely that's when they'll act
The thing is nobody is using BCH, their blocks are empty. But let's say that a significant amount of hashing power leaves for good (80% or so) and the users of bitcoin flee because of slow block times for the week or 2 before a difficulty adjustment. Why would they go to bitcoin cash, when they can go to other better and more established alts. This BCH pump is being driven by only the few whales who support it. Their egos have got to them, they think they are smart, and only make correct moves because they are rich and successful. Because of these egos they believe that if they just build it (pumping the price) everyone will flock to them, its delusional, and borderline sociopathic. They are kind of like the leaders of small cult, the literally think they are gods and can do no wrong. Delusional? Sociopathic... Small cult? Rotflmao The ones with the egos should have been humble and they know who they are. The ppl with the hash will decide...  https://fork.lol/pow/hashrateThis is exactly where you're wrong. And it will be an expensive lesson for you to learn. People decide with $$, people who understand it will find a way to make money on all of this silliness |
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If I had sold some more than I did in the 7K now I would stack some bids between 4.5K and 6K. I expected a strong correction since the high 5K in October so this is nothing yet for the moment. But it's to be seen if the huge backlog in the mempool persists thanks to the ongoing spam attack and the halving of hashing power could start a panic as the bitches hope.
I wonder how much an effect the lowering of hashing power will have. let's face it, most people who buy btc do so to hold it, and the hash rate has no effect on transfering fiat to the exchanges to buy btc. I don't think slower blocks matter at all, might actually slow down the selling it it slows people from transfering from cold storage to the exchange. edit:
and this confirms that BCH is a totally fake pump:
sure does Unless significant hash power leaves all at once, no effect. On that note when is the next retargeting, most likely that's when they'll act |
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