Oh FFS, I was kidding!
Apologies, brother. Did not read the sarcasm. I am a bit troubled with the world today, owing to the unfortunate events in Sri Lanka. Yeah, me too actually, I wish the muslims would just stop killing innocent people. If they keep this up it will end very badly for them. Wait, how are we so sure this is rightly directed towards the Muslim community? Although I'm not part of a religion, I find it somewhat offensive to see people blindly pointing fingers. I'd wager that Muslims didn't even have a hand in this. What could be achieved by a small group of 'terrorists' hurting the public like this? Do they think they'd somehow gain power or control from it, No, not even a small chance! Now ask the same question: What could be achieved by the 'government' or 'TPTB' sending fear into the public? Very simple, fear=submission Ii believe its all power and control tactics used by the state or a globalists agenda. Seems way to coincidental the past few weeks of religious connected events. NZ, Notre-Dame, and now Sri Lanka. Comon' Nobody slips on banannas. But, but the news said it was the muzlums. Dude I'm going to have to tell you about this group of terrorist, it's going to blow your mind and it's a lot more plausible. They're called ISIS, they're a bunch of fucks and are eating war on anyone that's not like them. BS, ISIS is a outfit trained and funded by USA and Israel. They are being used as the publics' bogeyman to garner justification for endless war. ISIS, Al-qaeda and the Taliban are all the same puppets. Further, these factions were created to fight each other and destabilize areas/governments. Hopefully you were just joking, is that leftists humour? Seriously some times this fucking rag tag group is just too fucking out there. Like I said in my earlier post I am more libertarian and I am pro Trump, I'll agree the US sucks at thinking through what happens after proxy wars but in no way do I think that ISIS is a continuously backed group by the US and Israel. I think you fell down a rabbit hole and need to hop out. First research how many Muslims ISIS killed in comparison to any other religion, and then talk about "Muslims" |
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I am dumping this BSV and holy shit, jbreher this thing sucks, I have been waiting over an hour and a half for 5 confirmations. How slow are these damn blocks?
Hmm. Explorer shows only 3 txs in Unconfirmed Backlog set: https://svblox.com/unconfirmed-tx . What's your txid? It just went through, it was fucking dreadful since I was trying to stay up to dump it on Binance but it went through. Fun fact, binance splits your coins for you from a single bch deposit. You had BSV  wait in order to get BSV you had to have bcash  , you all kind of special, no no i'm sorry carry on |
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Is finex faking volume too now? Those huge volume spikes cannot look more like wash trades if they tried.
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Satoshi coins belongs to Satoshi. It's up to him whatever he wants to do with it. He can give it to anyone be it his granny or grandchildren or throw away all his keys it's his decision and freezing someone's coins is ridiculous thing to say.
That's another discussion, if out of blue he starts to dump his coins on us which is very unlikely because he didn't touched his stash so far but if he does then arguably many of us fucked for sure.
And we can't blame him if he decides to dump his stash because at some point we all gonna sell our stash too.
You're missing the point. If Craig has the private keys he's free to spend them as he wishes regardless of who he is. The problem arises if Satoshi was Dave Kleiman and Hal Finney...and ?? locking the keys in the trust, and now CSW trying to establish himself as Satoshi so later he could get his hands on those keys unchallenged, since you know dead men don't talk. May be I am missing the point or may be I am ignoring any conspiracy and fiction theory. When we use if if if that much time in any argument then it's just a assumption and we are shooting in a dark. Good for brainstorming or discussion but not worth it much IMHO. Sometimes we should leave the all series of events to time and see how it goes. I'm not sure if this would qualify as a black swan event (i know it wasn't you but someone else assigned this to a black swan event) if we have a billionair and a multi-millionaire (CSW?) going on record saying for years that this will happen. This is not purely hypothetical scenario, it's what the other side is claiming and so far all their action (and already millions spent) are pointing in that direction. Regardless of the likelyhood you assign to this scenario completely ignoring this might be at your own peril. I'm yet to hear another logical explanation for their moves and specifically trying to prove that CSW is Satoshi in court now. There is in no way this is a money lawsuit and he doesn't need a court to prove he's Satoshi. |
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Satoshi coins belongs to Satoshi. It's up to him whatever he wants to do with it. He can give it to anyone be it his granny or grandchildren or throw away all his keys it's his decision and freezing someone's coins is ridiculous thing to say.
That's another discussion, if out of blue he starts to dump his coins on us which is very unlikely because he didn't touched his stash so far but if he does then arguably many of us fucked for sure.
And we can't blame him if he decides to dump his stash because at some point we all gonna sell our stash too.
You're missing the point. If Craig has the private keys he's free to spend them as he wishes regardless of who he is. The problem arises if Satoshi was Dave Kleiman and Hal Finney...and ?? locking the keys in the trust, and now CSW trying to establish himself as Satoshi so later he could get his hands on those keys unchallenged, since you know dead men don't talk. |
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New poll should be, if CSW starts suing the trust for keys to the stash, since he has his own chain would you support freezing Satoshi coins on the BTC chain.
No, there is no reason ever to freeze coins. You just reminded me of ETC so to answer my own question if that would to happen we would most definitely fork to a CSW with BTC1mil coins chain and Satoshi's frozen coins chain. In any case to escape this worst case scenario the CSW's I am Satoshi claims must be feverishly challenged now, as it might be too late when/if the keys turn out to be in the trust. |
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-McAffe stated on twitter that Satoshi still has access to the stash
My guess is that Mr. Mcafee's reveal hinted at this week will be Satoshi as himself and then he'll tell us that you're Satoshi too and then we'll feel all warm inside and that. Why he would have a clue who he is is beyond me. By 2009 he was well into his jungle freak phase and before that it was yoga and microlights for many years. And if he did have the vaguest hint why did he not pile in in 2009/10/11/12/13 and more? By the time he arrived Satoshi was long gone and no one else has ever claimed to know. I can't see anyone cheerfully telling him over a line of drain cleaner a few years down the road. Regardless of how you feel about him, if he has access to the private keys he has the coins. But at this stage it's pretty obvious that he doens't have the keys, the problem comes from some judge deciding that he's Satoshi and ordering the trust to hand the keys to him (or allocating a chunk to him)
I don't know or care what the endgame is but there's no evidence of this trust either. CSW been claiming that the keys are in that Tulip Trading Trust not to be distributed before 1/1/2020. It's just too much of a coincidence that he's starting his lawsuit on establishing himself as Satoshi now. yeah....the 3 theory with Dave Kleiman and Hal Finney as the other 2 in the group (who have passed) ...my worst nightmare is he is right and they did put all the 'test coins' into a tulip trust, that the last man standing can access. Jan 1st, 2020...being the weak link of the trio and the last man standing..that is the nightmare scenario to me (1 out of 50 chance of true IMHO) ...so if Craig Wright does get access to all that BTC he could play the same game as Bitcoin Cash and crash BTC into BSV or some other silliness if he drove the price down enough on selling massively..it would make the 'tulip mania' of the middle ages look tame by comparison. Anyway, like all 'nightmares' it is extremely unlikely, but still, if BTC was gonna go 'tulips' at this point in time, IMHO, it would take some classic unlikely event like this to do so... Craig Wright as a 'black swan event' ...sh*t just scared myself  (Again, 1-50 chance..but damn that would suck)  I don't think that the last man standing idea would stand in courts, plus i doubt that Hal was even thinking of not being with us in 2020, not sure about Dave. If we follow that train of thought, the more likely case is CSW just "being in the room" thus why he needs to establish himself as Satoshi now so he can put a claim on all of the coins, rather than having them distributed to Dave's Hal's etc??? estates. |
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-McAffe stated on twitter that Satoshi still has access to the stash
My guess is that Mr. Mcafee's reveal hinted at this week will be Satoshi as himself and then he'll tell us that you're Satoshi too and then we'll feel all warm inside and that. Why he would have a clue who he is is beyond me. By 2009 he was well into his jungle freak phase and before that it was yoga and microlights for many years. And if he did have the vaguest hint why did he not pile in in 2009/10/11/12/13 and more? By the time he arrived Satoshi was long gone and no one else has ever claimed to know. I can't see anyone cheerfully telling him over a line of drain cleaner a few years down the road. Regardless of how you feel about him, if he has access to the private keys he has the coins. But at this stage it's pretty obvious that he doens't have the keys, the problem comes from some judge deciding that he's Satoshi and ordering the trust to hand the keys to him (or allocating a chunk to him)
I don't know or care what the endgame is but there's no evidence of this trust either. CSW been claiming that the keys are in that Tulip Trading Trust not to be distributed before 1/1/2020. It's just too much of a coincidence that he's starting his lawsuit on establishing himself as Satoshi now. |
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New poll should be, if CSW starts suing the trust for keys to the stash, since he has his own chain would you support freezing Satoshi coins on the BTC chain.
No. I can't stand CSW, I would be deeply saddened if he actually had ANYTHING to do with BTC, which I think he has not. I think it is a very small chance that he could possibly end up with satoshi's private keys. But if he did... We would HAVE TO allow him to do as he pleases with them. It would do terrible damage to BTC, and the crypto space as a whole. It would likely set back BTC by 10+ years. But forking away value on the blockchain is a central bank move. WE CANNOT DO IT. Regardless of how you feel about him, if he has access to the private keys he has the coins. But at this stage it's pretty obvious that he doens't have the keys, the problem comes from some judge deciding that he's Satoshi and ordering the trust to hand the keys to him (or allocating a chunk to him) |
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New poll should be, if CSW starts suing the trust for keys to the stash, since he has his own chain would you support freezing Satoshi coins on the BTC chain.
What trust? Nobody knows who has Satoshi's keys or even if they still exist. That's the only way i can explain their move. There's no money in CSWs defamation of character lawsuits, and we all know some Judge's ruling in some jurisdiction won't do much to anonymous comments on the internet. But there is also no way a trustee would distribute any funds if identity of the beneficiary is being challenged. Establishing identity during distribution would be exponentially more difficult with more challengers because the stakes are that much higher, but if he can get some low level Judge to "establish" the identity of Satoshi before that it would potentially pave the way to unchallenged distribution (or make challenging it that much harder). Of course billionairs being retards and burning millions for no logical reason whatsoever would be the best case scenario, but it'd would be really dumb to not plan for contingencies. -McAffe stated on twitter that Satoshi still has access to the stash -Ayre is hinting that CSW might be a group of 3 -CSW managed to bamboozle Gavin, and managed to convince Ayre to bankroll his cause |
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New poll should be, if CSW starts suing the trust for keys to the stash, since he has his own chain would you support freezing Satoshi coins on the BTC chain.
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There are at least 2 ways to prove that he is Satoshi: Satoshi Nakamoto <satoshin@gmx.com>He should have access to email Satoshi. Satoshi Nakamoto in bitcointalk.orgLog in to your bitcointalk.org account And leave a message: " Hello, this is Craig Wright and I am Satoshi Nakamoto!" If this is done, there will be, almost, no doubt that Satoshi is him! Let the judge accept this information! Get with the times, youngling. The gmx email address was compromised years ago and put up for sale. The bitcointalk database has been compromised multiple times and satoshi's account has been long shut down. Even if he signed from one of the known blocks all it would prove is that he controlled those private keys at that moment of signing. No one can prove they're Satoshi without a shred of doubt. It's too late now. There's no point in any of this if he had hard proof. Clearly if he had the keys to the stash all of this would be useless, and he wouldn't need Ayre. It appears as if he's building a case for himself to put a claim in if not for full amount then for a portion. And if before all that he manages to get some court to write something positive for his case his chances would improve significantly, if not at least he got publicity and recognition that should also help his claim and possibly silencing people (not good for a case if all of the internet is calling him a fraud) |
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Calvin's relationship/partnership with Craig right now.
Ayre has reportedly been involved with CSW since at least Feb 2016. See this lengthy article, though note that it uses info from several highly unreliable sources, so you have to second-guess everything. Apparently, Wright worked in Antigua on gambling websites a long time ago, which is Ayre's residence and line of business, so they probably met directly or indirectly through this. Wright first publicly made his appearance in the Bitcoin scene in Dec 2015, and apparently he was engaging in the "I'm Satoshi but down on my luck, plz give me a small loan of a million dollars" shtick from at least around mid 2015. The fact that Ayre was involved so early makes me a bit suspicious that he could be in on the con, but it's also possible that he's just fallen for it real deep. I find Ayre's actions inexplicable. He appeared in this space suddenly, with a thin recent history. He's fixated on statist arguments, but his history makes me think that he should be biased against the state. (CSW has also been talking about this: which one is influencing the other?) He's stuck steadfastly by CSW for 3+ years with nothing obvious to show for it, and probably significant losses. (But is there something we don't know about? Does he somehow stand to profit from the current course of events, where SV & CSW fail in a loud and dragged-out way?) If anyone has some connection to Ayre through a friend-of-a-friend or something, I'd really like to know what's actually going through his mind. Ayre couldn't care less about BTC he's only the money man, but he's not an idiot and won't throw millions around unless he believe he could profit from it. If CSW could convince Gavin and Ayre, he might actually have some remote association to Satoshi. Now it's not bullet proof and he doesn't have access to the stash. CSW claimed that Satoshi's stash is locked up in a trust till 1/1/2020. Assuming that's the case, there's no way anyone is touching it without a ton of litigations. To raise his chances the first step is to get as much PR as humanely possible to associate himself with Satoshi. Create BSV fork, file lawsuits etc... Even if case is dismissed for lack of evidence he still gets a lot of coverage drumming it up as much as possible and gathering a following. Outcome of this lawsuit is irrelevant as its only there for PR, once he gets his TV time that's where the real war for the stash starts. It will be a long process which will require a ton of money, enter Ayre he bankrolls the process for a cut of a stash, his roll is to sponsor the games while cheerleading CSW from the sidelines as loud as he can. That's the only logic hypothesis i can come up with, outside of them just being lunatics that like to burn money. |
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Either Ayre knows something we don't, got conned, or he's preparing to break ties with CSW. "This industry needs to grow up and Craig proving he is Satoshi is the only way past this Troll attack that is so bad for the industries reputation. He now has a duty to set the record straight for us all. The Trolls all know he is Satoshi hence the fear." https://twitter.com/CalvinAyre/status/1117706922415853569If Craig managed to convince Gavin that he was Satoshi what chance does a judge have? Looks like he's doubling down on proving to judge (but not public) that CSW is Satoshi. Best case judge laughs at them and throws them out, worst case they convince the judge but keep the evidence sealed from public, so we'd have a ruling from some low level judge saying CSW is Satoshi |
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The victory of the community!!! The money to protect Hodlonaut from Faketoshi's lawyers is raised. And much more than necessary.  He's not even being sued yet, too soon, just gives publicity to that damn PR stunt. Now CSW can claim that due to feedback from cryptoverse and to be a nice guy he won't follow through with the suit. Kinda jumping through his hoops, he ends up getting publicity he craves without his idiotic lawsuit ever seeing the light of day. Maybe he isn't that dumb after all  Am i the only one who actually wants to see him try to prove that he's Satoshi in court? |
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Think Andreas said something along these lines, but this is not a cult and we don't have gods or dieties. If for some magical reason he has the keys to Satoshi's stash it would speak less of Satoshi than more of CSW. Not like people will turn to SV even if he could prove anything. His best case is people starting to believe that Satoshi got brain damaged and turned into CSW, oh well current BTC will live on...
My immediate reply was going to be "won't happen, not a problem", but then I remembered I felt the same way about Trump winning the election. I guess the point is anything is possible, though its more likely that Mark Zuckerberg will be the next president. The timing kind of bothers me, didn't he claim that the keys were locked in some trust till 2019 or was it 2020? But yeah most likely a PR stunt so the goal would be to milk it for as long as possible while trying to keep relevant. (you know sort of like i'll reveal my taxes *after the IRS audit which has been ongoing for 30 yrs now) |
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Must suck to be Roger. Always picks the wrong side. Gox wasn't fine, Craig neither. Bcash isn't too. I am waiting for his turn to be destroyed just like happened to Craig. When driven by wrong thoughts then yeah probably his time will come  Think Andreas said something along these lines, but this is not a cult and we don't have gods or dieties. If for some magical reason he has the keys to Satoshi's stash it would speak less of Satoshi than more of CSW. Not like people will turn to SV even if he could prove anything. His best case is people starting to believe that Satoshi got brain damaged and turned into CSW, oh well current BTC will live on... |
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I know people are worried about Roach and Gemtits so I went and checked on them today at the nocoiner homeless shelter. They are of course broken people but at least they have food and a bed to sleep together on, just no wifi right now.  I told them its not too late to get jobs and buy coins and I gave them copies of the Bitcoin Standard. Maybe they will come around, who knows. Tards are gonna be tarded, sometimes thats just how it is.  Did you get their blood types? You know just for the record |
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Blah blah blah larger block blah blah
You have bcash and bsv with larger blocks, go there you have options. What part of we don't want larger blocks is so hard to comprehend Yeah, I get it. But some here seem utterly oblivious to the consequences thereof. And you feel that you grasp full consequences of bcash and bsv and their unlimited blocks that you're shilling? You're just trying to exploit novices by highlighting some of the challenges that BTC is working on solving in an attempt to steer them into your shitcoins that put a bandaid on it and claim that it solves everything. |
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