I agree on you about that the main stream adoption still did not happen. However, I'm sure more people know about Bitcoin these days. Especially in comparison with 1 or 2 years ago. However, I think we're still in a very early stage of the life of Bitcoin. That makes 2016 also an important year which could 'make or break' Bitcoin. Looking at the downwards trend of the value of Bitcoin lately, I think something should change to make Bitcoin successfull soon. Otherwise, I guess we just have to wait and see what the future is going to bring us.

I think it's hard to predict in which kind of stage we're currently living with regard to the house markets here in The Netherlands. The last years, houses prices have decreased a lot (which makes it nowadays a good time to buy). However, especially in popular cities such as Amsterdam, a kind of bubble is currently taking place: houses are sold for MORE than the asking prices.

I'm looking to buy some real estate (such as an apartment) myself nowadays. However, it is hard to get a mortgage these days.

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Overall, I think it's a good idea to invest in real estate (especially in popular cities). In fact, I know someone who buys houses and changes them to multiple student rooms (which he then rents out). That works great. 

However, if you do not have that amount of money to spend, it is probably more wise to save money - save money to be able to cover unexpected costs (otherwise you'll have to loan money for that, and loaning is a really waste of money!).

How?
That probably relates to earning money such as dollars or euro's, doesn't it? I guess you have to spend some time and efforts trying to earn 1 BTC - about $225, which is the same as you would trying to earn $225.

As I bought a desktop because I needed one (for my study, work and spare time) I guess I could also mention that I achieved to earn my first 1 BTC without investment (by GPU-mining the right altcoins at that time) - but I guess that doesn't apply as my desktop costed money and so did the electricy.

Alright. I'm interested in what Monbux is going to experience and mention about this. Keep us updated Monbux!


I don't think anyone will think a review of you is legit and therefore I don't think Sathyr will ask you to. Vouching does work when trusted members do it though.

That is the basis of a pyramid scheme. The ones who starts it, is likely to earn much. I guess the same applies here: If you pay the TS, you are "allowed" to sell the very same product: just air, in which you "allow" buyers to sell the same product..

That will be a huge challenge indeed. And, to my knowledge, nothing really indicates that we are going to reach such levels within a week.

Looking at the graphs with regard to the last two years, a clear downwards trend is reconized.. Something should change. Although I do not loose my hope too .

To me this sounds like a piramid-scheme or something like that.. Pay me €xx in order to be able to earn €xxxx by yourself..

I guess the only way you can actually sell your "way" is by providing vouch copies to trustfull people.

I like the things you mention about Bitcoin too, however, I don't think we should expect that all Bitcoin transactions / deals will be safe. For example, owners of webshops that accept Bitcoin, might find an easy way to just not delivering their products. As soon as your Bitcoins are transferred to their wallets, this does not always have to mean that you also receive the product. In that situation, it is also hard to find out who the actual owner of the website / webshop is: you can't simply track the bank account (as you would nowadays).

I think such cases will - indeed - increase the value of Bitcoin (together with the value of gold and silver). As soon as a kind of crisis arises, for example when our money is not worth much anymore, such assets (Bitcoin, gold etc) will gain value a lot.

It would be great for the Bitcoin if we are going to experience such crisis, although I don't think I want to experience that. When our money becomes worthless, people will do EVERYTHING in order to survive. Murders will take place for a single bread I guess..

I only found out about that huge loss lately. Unbelieveble.. And somehow he/she seemed to accept it. There is no way I would gamble with such amounts of money.. In order to gamble with such amounts of money, I think you need to already have lots and lots of money (or be a millionair).

I think you missed the email indeed. I've received two emails, both on the fifth of August. Containing the following message:

Then go ahead and change this! In my group of friends, everybody knows about Bitcoin . Some of them are now also very interested in Bitcoin since I told them about it. In fact, some of them own more Bitcoins than I do.

You've got a negative trust rating over here. Therefore, I don't think you will be accepted for this campaign. Please read the rules about this:

Ah yeah, I did not think about that. Then you guys got a valid reason for keeping this topic as the leading one .

I would love to participate more in the DGC forums, but I still do not have the time for that. The same applies for the chat-channel.

So Amazon fixed the issue - as we already expected?

That's great! A good reminder for everyone though: be sure that you keep the receipts if you buy these giftcards (by paying cash) or ask the seller (who tells you that he or she bought these cards with cash) to provide the receipts.

Will you? I'm not going to sell anything, especially not at this value.. I will rather keep them 'untill the end' if that is the way we are going (downwards).

I still have hope and faith in Bitcoin. We all should remember that the coin and its technology is really new and we have a long way ahead of us. Maybe the ATH was not the right value for this coin (but just a hype at that moment). In a few years / multiple years, we'll see what the coin is really worth. And, at that moment, I want to be proud that I've kept all my Bitcoins .

I think it is a good start for all of us if we do not take any loans on the bank (except a possible mortgage) or use a credit card. This is actually the worst way to spend money because of the interest you have to pay.  And even with regard to mortgages, please spend a lot of time looking for which kind of mortage is the best for YOU! Remember, what mortgage is the best for you according to the bank, often is not the best for you but the best one for the bank..

Nowadays also crowd-funding websites arise for providing people loans. Maybe we all should look more into those websites and leave banks as they are.

Let's hope that is not the current situation of Bitcoin. Looking at the current value, I become a bit sad (especially if you look at two-years graphs). Let's hope this is not the huge losing streak you are reffering to, which is going to empty our accounts.

Honestly now I do see some similarities in this process about gambling (and dice) and buying Bitcoin, although buying Bitcoin is not like gambling. I still think there can be a great bright future for Bitcoin - but that future seems not to be very soon.

I'm wondering why this keeps happening indeed. I don't think it is really about being unable to learn. I guess it's more about unwilling to learn.. Unfortunately.

All these wars in the world does not make the world a better place. And honestly, I don't think we've seen the worst yet..

I don't see a relation between Akram & Ayoub El Kahzzani, do you?

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I guess it was just a matter of time for them to delete their forum.