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121  Economy / Digital goods / Re: Earn 1000€ and more... on: August 30, 2015, 09:34:53 PM
Meanwhile monbux replied and i just sent him the vouch copy.
So lets wait for his review Smiley

Thanks to Don007 for teaching me a bit more patience  Grin


No problem Wink. I think Monbux is more trusted member over here, so it's better for you to let him write a review.  I'm interested in what Monbux is going to say.
122  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: I have 0.02 btc , want to invest on: August 30, 2015, 09:30:14 PM
Go buy you a nice meal with 0.02. You don't earn any noticeable amount with 0.02BTC. Wink
its better to save it, there was a guy who bought 2 pizzas with hundreds of bitcoins as it was first btc purchase and now he could buy thousands of pizzas...

We'll never see that price jump again ever. You need a couple of tenfolds raise, that won't happen again.

This. When the pizzas were bought, BTC had pretty much no value. So let's assume it was $0.01 (it was actually more like $0.0003) each. At today's price, that's a 230000% increase. To do this again, it would require an increase from $200 to ~$4 million each.

How great would that be Smiley

But that is the exact point I tried to explain earlier. 0.02 is not much, but if you for example choose the right altcoin to invest in, you might in the end have a great ROI. Or, you might end up nothing. But that's investing.
123  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it better to save money or invest it? on: August 30, 2015, 09:24:20 PM
I could see investing as some sort of gambling. You're just risking you're money to get some profits (but sometimes you might even end loosing it all) Please correct me if I'm wrong.  Smiley

Gambling is based on the odds / probabilities: for example, at each dice game, you know you have for example 49,5% to win.

That's not the same for investments. Investments and related profits are based on risks: the higher the risk; the higher the possible profit will be. In determining where you are going to invest in, you can find high risk investments, but also low risks investments. However, even then, the investment is based on all kinds of factors; for example if you invest in a company: the company has influence on its performance. That is not the same for gambling: it's just the odds / probability and that it's : there is no such thing as influencing the outcome.
124  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: SteamBitShop.com ● Easily buy any Steam game with bitcoin or altcoins on: August 30, 2015, 07:37:49 PM
Does SteamBitShop sell Steam Wallet Cards too?
Not yet, unfortunately. I haven't found a reliable source for wallet codes.
If you could do that then I wouldn't ha e to go through gyft every time, that would be nice and I would use it.

The same applies for me. Now I use to buy wallet cards through Gyft or eGifter too (as buying codes here on this forum is not always safe). That would be a nice extra feature for your website Wink.
125  Other / Archival / Re: Updated Overview of Bitcointalk Signature-Ad Campaigns on: August 28, 2015, 12:43:57 PM
Hi Mitchell,

Unfortunately the BitBingo (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1013170.0) campaign has ended since yesterday. It was one of the best signature campaigns lately though.
126  Local / Alt Coins (Nederlands) / Re: e-Gulden: even bijkletsen on: August 28, 2015, 12:41:43 PM
Elke keer die trieste reacties van een select groepje nlg-ers, doe niet zo triest, want het maakt mij alleen meer geïnteresseerd in efl, en minder in NLG. Ga uit van eigen kracht ipv constant alles af te kraken bij efl. Dat is eng, cultachtig...

En1 ding heeft yoshi keihard gelijk in, nlg vist in de cryptowereld, wat verdomde klein is, efl probeert echt de massa te bereiken. Of het lukt is een 2e, maar het is het proberen waard lijkt me om henk en ingrid Wink in crypto te laten stappen.

Dan heb ik het natuurlijk niet over kwartjeterug, wat een heel mooi inititatief is, echter slaat het jammergenoeg totaal niet aan, de payoff om die moeite te doen is simpelweg te klein, al scan ik trouw mijn tankbonnetjes in Smiley Net zo goed vind ik het ideaal Liberland mooi, en mocht dit enigszins slagen zou de eerste cryptonatie een feit zijn, dus alle geloofwaardigheid weg, zou ik niet zeggen...

Ik heb me recentelijk een keer verdiept in dat Kwartjeterug. Ondanks dat ik behoorlijk veel op de weg zit - en daarbij dus behoorlijk veel tank, leek het mij de moeite ook niet waard op dat moment.

Liberland is inderdaad een mooi ideaal en ik denk zelf dat Cryptocurrency in zo'n situatie best bruikbaar is. Het blijftbijvoorbeeld ten aller tijden een handig ruilmiddel in vergelijking met echte ruilmiddelen. Ik heb recentelijk een documentaire gezien over Vissarion, wiens diehard aanhangers ook in een apart gebied wonen in Rusland. Daar mag men ook geen geld verdienen: men maakt daar producten. Een deel van de producten kan men houden en gebruiken, een ander deel heeft men nodig om te ruilen voor andere spullen die zij nodig hebben. Het klinkt allemaal primitief, maar in zo'n situatie zou een cryptocurrency wellicht uitsluitsel bieden. Al is het voorbeeld van de aanhangers van Vissarion wellicht een beetje ongelukkig hier, zoveel hebben zij niet met elektronica en internet Tongue
127  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it better to save money or invest it? on: August 28, 2015, 12:36:08 PM
Saving it to bitcoins and play trading in exchanger, and holding it,buying or selling till prices fluctuate are a better prospect, you can invest in property and gold as well when the markets are volatile,or even investing in very lucrative business,which stand to give you greater gains than keeping it in a bank

I won't advice anyone to invest in Bitcoin, gold or lucrative business if they do not have any spare money: these markets are still volatile. And, especially if you invest in for example real estate, it is not easy to get back your money when you need it. In that situation, it is better for people to save money on a bank account for in case they need it (to cover unexpected costs). As soon as people got a decent amount of spare money (and therefore be able to cover possible unexpected cost), then someone can look into investing..

That is Right, I think for a guy who have average salary, for him saving is the best way and  only way, as investment won't serve the purpose as it requires a capital at the initial stage and that is not that easy for a guy with average salary, so saving is best way to deal with  even at the time of emergencies you can use that money.
when you keep your money in the bank then the benefit is that investors who borrow money in the bank, and you will only get a little% interest, so it may be better to use methods of 50:50 or whatever you want

That's right, but the aim of saving money is not just the interest. Is also about saving money to be able to cover unexpected costs later on - or save money to buy other things you need (like another car).

The current interest is not really attractive. With the current taxes in the Netherlands, your likely to pay more tax than you earn interest on savings more than € 21.000. I've just read the governement is going to decrease these taxes, and are only going to tax your savings if you've got more than € 25.000 in savings (per person).
128  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: SteamBitShop.com ● Easily buy any Steam game with bitcoin or altcoins on: August 28, 2015, 12:31:28 PM
That's a nice extra feature. Congratz on that Martok88!

I guess instant delivery is nice, but I guess it does not really matter buyers if it takes a couple of minutes to receive a game - although this should not be multiple hours.
129  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: is gambling fix your life? or wreck your life? on: August 28, 2015, 12:28:54 PM
Gambling doesn't have extreme effects in my life as you said. I don't gamble for gaining wealth. I play for fun.

If you play for fun, are you then talking about online gambling or offline - like in a casino - ? I do understand why people would gamble in a casino and why they think it's fun: its a kind of entertainment which I understands. In fact, you could spend $50 in a club or you could spend $50 in a casino (including some drinks) - in which you might be able to earn a nice profit. Looking at gambling in casino's that way, it is not that bad.

However, what I do not understand is why people are spending huge amounts of money in online gambling. I mean, the entertainment factor is way less than in relation with offline gambling. It's okay to spend some parts of BTC in online gambling IF YOU CAN MISS IT though.
130  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BTC in your country on: August 28, 2015, 12:25:07 PM
alot of peoples in my country thinks that bitcoin is joke ...
in serious way they don't know what the btc is ??
and if they Will know what is btc then they will say it's too complex..
so in my country there's 70% peoples don't know about btc..??

I guess they think it is a joke because you can generate money with, for example, your desktop (by mining). When I joined the Bitcoin miners, it was still (quite) profitable to use your GPU for mining. In my enviroment, everyone found it hard to believe that my GPU was actually creating money - as I could sell the altcoins I've mined for euro's (indirectly, through BTC).

Nowadays, I think the Bitcoin is more and more known in the Netherlands. Even the average citizen hears about the Bitcoin so now and then, for example on TV. However, this has not led to a massive adoption yet. Unfortunately.
131  Other / Off-topic / Re: 2016, The Year of Bitcoin? on: August 28, 2015, 12:22:42 PM
i dont think itll rise much in price until the 21million is mined

So after I'm dead.  Sweet.

Hehe, I guess Teemus doesn't realise how long that is going to take.

I'm not sure whether anyone is going to experience that moment in which all the Bitcoins are mined - Bitcoin might have died at that moment and/or better alternatives have been developed. But maybe the Bitcoin is alive and kicking at that moment, and worth a lot of money. I guess no one knows.

Untill then, let's HODL Wink
132  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: is gambling fix your life? or wreck your life? on: August 28, 2015, 12:19:39 PM
FU,CK GAMBLING!!!
I am done with it now, only lost money! Around 200$ that I earned on this forum, all gone to hell!

Regards,
Joust

I guess there are many players that losing more than you do and they still try to recover it anyway, just have faith in it, you are too fast to get out from this gambling world. You need some advice or may be some strategy to earn back what you loss. Play slowly to recover your loss and dont be too greedy if I can say



Suggesting people to gamble even more to cover their losts is not a good idea. That's the exact situation in which people become addicted to gambling and/or lose even more of their money.

Everyone wants to 'gamble just a little bit more' to cover the costs. If they succeed, they are likely to continue as they also want 'a little profit for their efforts'. If they loose, the cycle starts over again: they want to gamble just a little more to cover the (more) costs..  That's an addict, and a worse situation to be in.
133  Economy / Economics / Re: How to save money. on: August 28, 2015, 12:17:15 PM
In terms of cars, I agree there is no need to spend beyond your means, but as a car/motorcycle enthusiast, I have had great experiences in motorsports, that were very worth the cost to me.  I never spent beyond my limit or went into debt.  More recently I have an economy car, and rarely even drive anymore as I live in the city, but miss the excitement I used to experience earlier. Smiley

I'm on the road quite a lot, and that's why I want / need a decent car: I don't any parts likely to break down when I'm heading to work. However, although I'm a real car enthusiast too, I don't think I would spend a lot of money on good looking cars otherwise these days. Maybe as soon as my financial situation improves Wink.

If you only drive short distances, cheap (older) cars are suitable - although you have to be aware not to buy a car that is likely to break down, for example, a car with a lot of miles on it. Maitenance costs can then be very high, and you end up worse than if you have bought a more expensive car in the first place.
134  Economy / Economics / Re: How to save money. on: August 27, 2015, 06:36:02 PM
Nice advice. I am also looking for a way to save money. I don't know why it is so easy to spend money for buying things that is not so necessary. While the things we need the most and needed big amount of money we feel so hard to do savings and the worst is in the end we take loans on banks. Need to change before it becomes a habit  Cheesy

I think it is a good start for all of us if we do not take any loans on the bank (except a possible mortgage) or use a credit card. This is actually the worst way to spend money because of the interest you have to pay.  And even with regard to mortgages, please spend a lot of time looking for which kind of mortage is the best for YOU! Remember, what mortgage is the best for you according to the bank, often is not the best for you but the best one for the bank..

Nowadays also crowd-funding websites arise for providing people loans. Maybe we all should look more into those websites and leave banks as they are.
Credit cards are a death sentence. The best thing to do if you have a credit card with debt is to cut them up and stick to spending debit and cash only. It always cost way more money to pay for everything ever. If it were not needed to travel, I would not have one.

I definately agree with you, although the guarantees of using Credit Cards are nice. However, as this costs a premium, I would not suggest you to use one. In fact, most people are spending money with their CC which they don't even have: spend the money you have.       The same applies for people loaning money to buy for example a car. Don't! Save money and buy a car with the money you own by yourself.

There is no need to drive the nicest or fastest cars. In fact, even a few dents in your car does not matter: this can save you thousands of dollars!
135  Economy / Services / Re: Best Poker and Bingo - Playtodos.com Signature Campaign on: August 27, 2015, 06:32:05 PM
I would like to sign up for this campaign, as my previous campaign (the BitBingo one, also managed by Carra23) has ended. Carra23, I've sent you as PM about this Wink.

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136  Economy / Services / Re: [CLOSED] BITBINGO CASINO - Signature campaign, fixed rate, bi-weekly pay on: August 27, 2015, 06:22:22 PM
Payment for the final term has been made
https://blockchain.info/tx/2f4d5bd7da5cefb7603d21a6b6acd5f466f892ed6c2be5d2b6e46717d183fe82

Thanks to all the participants for being a part of this. The campaign is now over after running for 20 weeks.

Payment confirmed. You managed to pay me 8 times (for 9 terms, including 1 roll-over due to myself). Thank you very much for managing this campaign in a great way Carra! It's sad that this campaign stops, but I will move on towards another campaign you are managing.

I will leave you a new feedback now. I think we all should do that, as Carra23 has shown to be a great signature campaign manager.
137  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: BEWARE AMAZON using Gift Cards on: August 27, 2015, 04:30:35 PM
We have resolved this matter, and you should now be able to access your account without incident.

So Amazon fixed the issue - as we already expected?

That's great! A good reminder for everyone though: be sure that you keep the receipts if you buy these giftcards (by paying cash) or ask the seller (who tells you that he or she bought these cards with cash) to provide the receipts. Smiley
AFTER I sent them receipts and cards showing they were bought in store with cash, the next email I got:

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Hello,

We are writing to inform you that we have closed your Amazon.com account and canceled all open orders.

We took these actions because you have continued to submit invalid gift certificates as payment for Amazon.com orders.
"

It looks like I made a mistake (and thought Jakez was the topic starter). Sorry about that!

What are you going to do now? I mean, I guess you continue taking action as more than "$1,000 in gift card balance" is quite a lot to loose. What are your following steps?

It's also weird that they are talking about orderS if you only have had one order over there. Is there any possibility they are thinking you are someone else? / They are confusing your account with that of someone else?
138  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it better to save money or invest it? on: August 27, 2015, 04:24:43 PM
Saving it to bitcoins and play trading in exchanger, and holding it,buying or selling till prices fluctuate are a better prospect, you can invest in property and gold as well when the markets are volatile,or even investing in very lucrative business,which stand to give you greater gains than keeping it in a bank

I won't advice anyone to invest in Bitcoin, gold or lucrative business if they do not have any spare money: these markets are still volatile. And, especially if you invest in for example real estate, it is not easy to get back your money when you need it. In that situation, it is better for people to save money on a bank account for in case they need it (to cover unexpected costs). As soon as people got a decent amount of spare money (and therefore be able to cover possible unexpected cost), then someone can look into investing..
139  Economy / Digital goods / Re: Earn 1000€ and more... on: August 27, 2015, 04:19:15 PM
Unfortunately monbux, did not answered/read my PM yet, although he was online.
Therefore I am offering Don007 a vouch copy aswell, because he is the second most trusted member in this thread.
monbux can still get a vouch copy,too, though.

I'm going to send you a PM about that right now. Let's give Monbux a few more days to write a review about the vouch copy / your way to earn money.
140  Other / Off-topic / Re: Why war is good on: August 26, 2015, 10:22:58 PM
the war is never good, yes it might reduce the amount of people but it does not help to develop as people destroy other countries and other potentially talented people that means war is stopping the development not making it faster


I'd be willing to bet that war doesn't even put a dent into reducing population size.  UNICEF estimates that about 353,000 babies are born each day (source, article from last year so the numbers probably changed slightly).  The ongoing war in Syria, which started in 2011, has claimed an estimated 320,000 deaths (source)...and that's over a span of four years!



I guess that depends on which war you are looking to. Look at all the casualities of the WOII ~ depending on your source - 72.000.000. I guess that does reduce the population size (and does reduce the population growth too). In times of war, also less children are born - I guess that something we can say as we've seen an huge increase in the amount of births after the war.
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