At this moment, GRAMS is dead, so I see no point to anyone investing in it ... which I guess would be IOUs right now. And that's even riskier. The project may die and there is no guarantee that the original investors who put money into this will even get a refund. Just way too risky to me.

It's better to wait it out and see if an agreement with the SEC is made first.

Not sure what that fellow was talking about either, unless his friend bought primarily early in 2018 at ETH's ATH, then sold at its low?

If he bought into btc + eth over all of 2018, his overall buy-in price probably isn't that terrible (at least for btc). Eth would still be at a decent loss, but nothing insane ... very recoverable. It's not like his friend invested his family fortune into Taxicoin or something that lost 99%+ of its value.

Again, btcpop is the only place I see to sell beancash with any liquidity at all. Not that it has much, but the other exchanges are even dinkier.

So it's worth around 2-3 sats, I guess, assuming you don't try to sell several btc worth. If we are talking about selling .1 btc worth of bean or something like that, btcpop could work.

If you check out the malwarebytes link I provided (or google search it, in case you are suspicious of links here)  about this, you'll see how it's not even related to watching porn in the first place, at least not directly.

I received two such emails ages ago, and I haven't been visiting porn sites. However the spam email I was using had previously been hacked.

That's what they are targeting, hacked emails where the culprits know the password. So then they start off their demands with 'Hey, we know your password is 'whatever' ... and then we hacked into your computer, stole your contacts, and used the pc camera to record you and so on.

I'm sure there are instances of folks being extorted whose private info was actually stolen or recorded (Black Mirror has an excellent episode in regard to this, by the way). But that's not what this type of scam is, it's more of a blanket spam email to hacked email accounts -- the scammers have no idea if their target has viewed porn or not.

I'm guessing older folks or just really dumb people fall for scams like this. I've had older relatives ask me if they should click certain popup buttons or open emails ... all obviously scams to anyone who has any experience using the internet. But I guess to some folks, they don't know any better.

One thing this scam does is use a password associated with the email account. It's pretty sneaky. So to the uninformed, "Oh no, somehow this email knows everything about me, maybe they did activate my camera and record me while I visited <whatever porn site>"

I wished I kept the email sent to me in one of my spam accounts, I'd post it here. It's pretty devious. I mean, obvious it's a scam to most folks, but I could see older people or idiots falling for it.

Edit: And this article explains it and has a similar type of email sent out:

https://blog.malwarebytes.com/cybercrime/2019/02/sextortion-bitcoin-scam-makes-unwelcome-return/

Not quite sure what you are asking there. Any exchanges that uses bittrex? Bittrex is an exchange.

Are you asking how to keep track of bean prices? It currently has no volume, literally like no volume. Any changes in price would be meaningless if it's like a $2 buy order on an exchange nobody has heard of before.
If you want to see bean prices, just watch it on btcpop, I think it's currently about 2 sats.

They don't actually target folks watching porn, just hacked emails. One of my spam emails was hacked ages ago (I noticed weird messages I never sent in my sent box).  Not a biggie, since it was a junk email, but kind of annoying.

And this same spam address got one of those porn scam type of emails a little while after the hacking. I'm not sure of the type who falls for such scams... I guess older folks or just those overly paranoid. The amusing thing in my case was how the email mentioned things like how it was recording during the 'act' and so on.

Besides not visiting porn sites, my pc doesn't even have a camera. It'd be quite the technical achievement to record someone without a camera.

There are a number of gold based coins, as already mentioned. Some real estate ones too .. and things like bitbond sto which is a security (bond, to be exact). Not sure if the OP considers that a real asset or not. Stablecoins in theory are based on real assets, but they aren't exactly money making endeavors for investors.

I think eventually a lot of stocks/bonds will get tokenized, but the SEC moves in slow motion, so who knows when/if that will occur.

The simpler way of looking at it is that so many ICOs were pure scams that it scared away investors from new alts. Then add in the SEC and it's slow motion way of going about things, and we can't even be certain which alts are securities and which aren't. I don't think most qualify as a security, but again, negative publicity doesn't help matters.

I think it has nothing to do with selfishness. Bounty hunters always dumped. They dumped in 2014, 2015, 2016 and still do it today. Just the way it is. It wasn't enough to kill good coins in the early days, and isn't the reason it kills coins today. If a new coin dies because of bounty hunters, it means it was never strong enough to begin with.

Biggest reason I think alts are where they are is simply how the market works and for lack of a better term, whale manipulation. Low cap coins will suffer most in a bear market ... happens with stocks as well. So if whales decide to crush alts down, pump up btc first, that makes sense. Only question now is if with alts so crushed, will whales chomp them up again and start pushing up alts.

We can say attitudes matter in regard to price, and to a certain extent they do. But if whales start pumping up alts out of the blue, you'll be surprised how quickly attitudes change. And it'll have nothing to do with any of the points you brought up ... price is what changes attitudes.

That's the type of scenario that could be possible. I don't see a 2017 type of alt season returning, where everything went completely bonkers. But if whales get bored playing in btc waters, I can see them moving to alts for a while. Not because they believe in alt fundamentals, or real world use, or whatever phrases that get thrown around as reasons for crypto rising in price. But it's simply because it's an opportunity to make money, at least short term -- when btc sleeps, alts might wake up ... then alts sleep again and btc could do it's crazy parabolic rise thing. And after that, winter sets in once again...

The big problem with this hypothetical is the idea of never returning back to crypto. A 5x profit is nice, but if that means never investing again in crypto, it probably wouldn't make sense for most unless we are talking about huge sums.

I mean, let's say it was 1K to 5K. Yay, not bad on a 1K investment.

But if that's it, it's not exactly a life changing moment there (at least for most). So it's kind of a weird hypothetical the OP set up. It'd be better to ask if faced with a 5x profit, would one cash out, and maybe not return to that particular coin, not all crypto in general. Then the answer would be yes more often than not, I expect.

Depends entirely on the situation.

If we are talking about 5x BTC value, then probably not, as the odds are 8K won't be the new high for the coin.

If it's an alt, it depends on how it got to its current price and the project itself. If it's a pump, yeah, most likely sell unless I feel it's still early in the pump. But nowadays we don't see those 10-20x rises too often, so 5x would likely be the end of the pump.

Also depends on when I bought in. For instance if I was looking at 5x profit for ETH, yet I bought in ages ago (meaning I passed up even greater profits), I might wait it out.

However if it's a generic type of token and I woke up one morning and saw it skyrocketed 5x, yeah, I'd be selling it real quick. However, when I define 'sell' it's not always to fiat ... unless we are talking about huge amounts, that 5x sale most likely would go into BTC or ETH.

The 'never come back' moment for me is when it's so much money (so we are into millions) that I could basically retire on it.

Those are the red flags to me about this project. I like some of the things they are doing, but no max supply? I can't see prices holding up that long... eventually it'll begin to look like a pyramid setup, early folks may be able to get a decent price, but as time passes it'll just get worse and worse.

As for the exchange thing, that's why I kind of take the coin's marketplace position with a grain of salt. If a coin is on iffy exchanges, it's easier to manipulate. And that's good or bad, I guess, depending on your viewpoint -- good if you are into pumps/dumps, not so good if you want a steady realistic price.

Signature bounty probably would be the best way, IF you can get accepted into a project that pays in either BTC or ETH, ideally on a set schedule.

You may be able to make something from token bounties, but there it's hit or miss. And even a hit may just be like $10.

Maybe try the Brave browser and go for BAT tokens. Won't be much, but it'll at least be something.

That's what it really boils down to. I have never seen a coin so focused on laying the groundwork (coding/conferences and so on) yet ignore proper marketing so badly. It's like they do the reverse of most other projects... there are some coins w/ much higher valuations, without even really working products, but tons of hype. Ardor is like the anti-hype coin, doing the background stuff, but kind of forgetting to tell anyone it exists. Beats me why they ignore this forum so much either, it takes minimal effort to announce news here.

And they should have retired NXT 1.0, I see no point to their team putting resources on it still ... and as you say, NXT/IGNIS/ARDOR just confuses people. I still have no clue what Ignis is really used for besides the lightweight contract stuff, and no idea why that couldn't have just been done with Ardor by itself.

I like the tech details of the project, but I really hate their communications. You'd think they'd just hire a marketing director or something. Or some random guy to at least update the forum here.

I thought it was an asset, so it wouldn't be a token, I think. But maybe you need to wait for the app first ... if you have a spam email, you can sign up for a reminder.

Info found here:
https://triffic.world/en/airdrop

Hmm? I'm not sure what you are referring to there.

Might as well check if you got the freebie GPS tokens from holding it. Pretty sure it was something like a 20% airdrop. I think it is an Ignis asset, so you'd need to check the wallet. They aren't worth much (I think), but free is free.

The answer is easy ... the OP sold his altcoins and is now holding BTC. So of course he now says everyone should sell their alts and buy BTC instead.

It's no different than the typical shill posts here for any other coin. If he was holding ETH, we'd be hearing how everyone should cash in their BTC for ETH instead, BTC is doomed due to slow transaction speed, or whatever.

I think you are using too broad a stroke to group all altcoins together. I get it, the altmarket is down from its previous highs. But don't forget BTC is down too. And it's not like choosing an alt is always betting against BTC, sometimes alts rise at a quicker rate than BTC -- LTC did this earlier in the year.

It comes down to specific projects. If folks believe their coin has a good team + decent fundamentals + plan, it's up to them if they think it'll outpace BTC or not. If we look at 2018-19, the argument would be you really, really need to pick your coins correctly.

And sure, sometimes it's best to sell taking a loss, just to avoid a further loss. But it's silly for anyone to listen to some guy in a forum thread and act like he's an expert on your specific holdings.