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1441  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin reduces unemployment on: June 04, 2017, 05:04:14 PM
Bitcoin, along with it's blockchain technology has opened new doors to much of the world's population who before had no hope in hell of finding a job or any form of dignified employment. Now  simple folks like myself, who are not even of the basement nerd variety, can etch a part or full time living off of the Blockchain. All of those who missed out on the old gold rushes like the dot com boom can come and join us in this blockchain revolution.  Smiley

I agree, bitcoin job is not only for those who are good with coding, they also offer an earning to those who can promote, advertise, do a blog, and many more.  Bitcoin just opened a new charter of opportunities.  It is up to us to find and grab them.
1442  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why we still gambling while we always lose? on: June 03, 2017, 06:39:38 PM
We alway go back to gambling even if we lose because we want to chase ours loses.  That is the sad fact.  We want to get what we lose but rather than winning them back, we lose more.  We should have think that there is a possibility of losing more if we want to take back what we lost.
1443  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin reduces unemployment on: May 31, 2017, 03:49:15 PM
I don't even consider it as a part time job. Generally what you are doing online like signature campaigns fall into freelancing in which you really don't have an employer. You are self-employed in which you are just looking for temporary or additional way of having extra income. Additionally the amount you can get from a job is much bigger because in Bitcoins we have a limited option on earning more money.

Are you sure a signature campaign does not have an employer?  Then who is paying us of our job/task?  Isn't it the owner of the campaign?  Managed by the manager?  Signature campaign does not fall under self-employed category because you are applying for the position or slot.

And they maybe a part time Job or sidejob as the other stated (see bolded word).  We are not discussing here about the quality of job or the how the job is created or how long it will last.  We are discussing employment and unemployment.   If you applied for a campagin and got accepted  won't you considered yourself employed?  If not then what do you call it?

I disagree with your stance and support the previous poster (whose post I included in the quote). As to me, if we follow your logic there couldn't be self-employed people at all. Ultimately, the difference between self-employed and hired (or employed) lies in the equality (or lack thereof) of the parties involved. When you are employed, you follow the rules of your employer, i.e. you don't have a lot of leeway in respect to negotiating the terms of the contract (e.g. when you should work and how much). This is not the case with self-employment where you can put forward and negotiate your own conditions and provisions

Just the fact that it is still a job to be done is irrelevant and inconsequential to the issue

You just supported my stance rather than refuting it Smiley.  The one I quoted said that signature campaign is categorized as self-employed  stuff.  And your explanation justified my stance .  The discussion with my quoted reply solely revolves around signature campaign .
1444  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin reduces unemployment on: May 31, 2017, 12:44:41 PM
I don't think that bitcoin will reduce unemployment because you need to have a proper knowledge on bitcoin,also one needs to spend a lot of time on it,it may be good enough for a part time job/temporary job ,but as a full time job ,bitcoin really needs to expand itself even more and also people need to know how to use their creative skills .

Same way when you want employment that is paid in fiat currency.  Remember you need to study for more than a decade to prepare yourself to have jobs.  You have to attend several pieces of training and seminars if you are applying for a job even before you are accepted.  This is no difference than learning bitcoins.
1445  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way for steady income on: May 31, 2017, 12:24:02 PM
If discussing fixed income without any gambling and loan trading then I can only recommend starting btc mining but it requires a decent electricity cost and must spend capital for the mining tools.

You cannot have a fix income from mining. One of the reason is, the difficulty keeps on increasing, the share on the pool where you pointed your miners keep in decreasing since more and more miners are joining the pool.  Remember bitcoin reward is not increasing, it is fixed.  So increasing difficulty plus increasing participant to have share on the pie means decreased earning.
1446  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin reduces unemployment on: May 31, 2017, 11:21:05 AM
Bitcoin reduce the unemployment if a person gets a regular job but if not then it is not considered as an employment because in employment it needs regular job and regular salary while in bitcoin it like just a side line so i think it doesn't reduce the amount of unemployment.

I agree. In most cases, bitcoin is obtained as a small temporary part-time job which can only bring a big profit in a few years if it is saved and wait for the price to rise.
I don't even consider it as a part time job. Generally what you are doing online like signature campaigns fall into freelancing in which you really don't have an employer. You are self-employed in which you are just looking for temporary or additional way of having extra income. Additionally the amount you can get from a job is much bigger because in Bitcoins we have a limited option on earning more money.

Are you sure a signature campaign does not have an employer?  Then who is paying us of our job/task?  Isn't it the owner of the campaign?  Managed by the manager?  Signature campaign does not fall under self-employed category because you are applying for the position or slot.

And they maybe a part time Job or sidejob as the other stated (see bolded word).  We are not discussing here about the quality of job or the how the job is created or how long it will last.  We are discussing employment and unemployment.   If you applied for a campagin and got accepted  won't you considered yourself employed?  If not then what do you call it?
Of course you can consider yourself hired, but for the proceeds of collection of signatures you will not be able to cover your needs. This means that you should have a main place of work. Therefore, you cannot consider a company to collect signatures work space. Only a part time job or hobby.

This depends on the location of the applicant.  There had been several testimonies here that payment from this campaign can sustain their need in a week.  Enough for them to sustain their living since signature campaign pays in weekly basis.  You are correct about this as part time job but a job is a job and being hired means you are employed.  Sticking to the question whether Bitcoin help reduce unemployment , it clearly states that it does help to reduce unemployment .
1447  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin reduces unemployment on: May 31, 2017, 10:32:01 AM
Bitcoin reduce the unemployment if a person gets a regular job but if not then it is not considered as an employment because in employment it needs regular job and regular salary while in bitcoin it like just a side line so i think it doesn't reduce the amount of unemployment.

I agree. In most cases, bitcoin is obtained as a small temporary part-time job which can only bring a big profit in a few years if it is saved and wait for the price to rise.
I don't even consider it as a part time job. Generally what you are doing online like signature campaigns fall into freelancing in which you really don't have an employer. You are self-employed in which you are just looking for temporary or additional way of having extra income. Additionally the amount you can get from a job is much bigger because in Bitcoins we have a limited option on earning more money.

Are you sure a signature campaign does not have an employer?  Then who is paying us of our job/task?  Isn't it the owner of the campaign?  Managed by the manager?  Signature campaign does not fall under self-employed category because you are applying for the position or slot.

And they maybe a part time Job or sidejob as the other stated (see bolded word).  We are not discussing here about the quality of job or the how the job is created or how long it will last.  We are discussing employment and unemployment.   If you applied for a campagin and got accepted  won't you considered yourself employed?  If not then what do you call it?
1448  Economy / Economics / Re: bitcoin provide income on line? on: May 31, 2017, 09:47:10 AM
With current bitcoin price I can earn extra income and I think it can meet needs of everyday life, although I have to do various online activities to earn that income, but I am proud of effort and results that I get from various activities of activity in Bitcoin
That is the power of bitcoin and also the main reason why the people are loving bitcoin because they want more money aside from their salary and they can get sideline or part time job with bitcoin with a higher possibility of earning and if you are a good bitcoin user or so then you can earn even triple of your salary because a lot of opportunities are already spread in the internet using bitcoin.
For people in developing countries, it can be even more than a sideline/secondary job.

It's hard to underestimate how poor some people are and how much these opportunities can help them.

I agree, it is more than just a sideline.  In the developing country, the bounty here is equivalent to a several days work.



With projects around bitcoin, and the need for people to advertise, market and work on the project, it offers opportunity to people who are looking jobs online and get employed.
1449  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: When will the scaling issue* be solved? on: May 30, 2017, 06:47:59 PM
I do not think that the scaling problem will be solved there maybe some patches to fix the current scalability issue, but eventually the issue will reoccur.  It is like a problem that were attached to bitcoinj eversince its creation.  As more users transact the more possibility that the block will be filled.  So I guess  scalling issue wont be solved.
1450  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Manually setting Fee vs Not on: May 30, 2017, 06:02:10 PM
Well I think you do not encounter any problem with using multibit HD wallet.  So I can say it is ok to use a wallet where you can set manual fee.  But it would be best to have a wallet that have a dynamic fee option that sets your transaction fee automatically to the latest required fee for fast confirmation.  Such service is offered in electrum wallet.
1451  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: 🌟🔴 ICOBID PLATFORM RELEASED 🌟🔴 GREAT REWARD 🌟🔴 HOLDING FOR REVENUE SHARE on: May 30, 2017, 05:00:46 PM
It seems there has no update yet with regards to ICOB-W and even with the ICOB progress.  I wonder what is Pioneer88 up this time.  I have seen him getting online in skype but not a single message from the skype group.  Anyway, I hope we can hear from Pioneer soon.
1452  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: The best way to explain ICO to critics & potential investors on: May 30, 2017, 02:17:47 PM
Despite legitimacy with a white paper and all necessary documents, what is the easiest way to explain the benefits of ICOs to someone?

Tell them it is an investment that have a potential to multiply or worthless.  You should tell them the pros and cons, the possible income and possible lost.  There is no easy way than telling them how history of ICO performs.  Beside it is better to be transparent and honest than mislead them that may cause unpleasant result.
1453  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BITCOIN IS TRAVELING PLACES!!! on: May 30, 2017, 11:57:35 AM
I agree it is best to save bitcoin, buy it when we have extra money.  Bitcoin is strongly becoming global cryptocurrency.  Different countries are now trying to ride its success.  The only thing that is preventing bitcoin to explode is the scalability but it seems there is some light on it now.  Let us wait and see how Bitcoin fly beyond the moon!
1454  Economy / Speculation / Re: If China opens BTC withdrawals - would that mean a pump or a dump? on: May 29, 2017, 11:00:27 PM
There is a possible effect on the increse of price because certain individual will convert their cash to Bitcoin and withdraw them.  But such event won't give an impact to bitcoin price since it is an isolated case in a certain exchange except a group of whales take advantage of the news to pump the price and persuade people to buy bitcoin.  But this event usually ended in a massive dump by the whales to cashout their profit.
1455  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin reduces unemployment on: May 29, 2017, 10:18:29 PM
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An agreement between employee and employer is an employment.  The discussion here is about employment and bitcoin.  there are couple of examples already given where bitcoin can help in reducing unemployment.  As stated on the earlier reply even a single employment out of 100 unemployed still reduced the unemployment.  This does not tackle about how well the job creation is.
1456  Economy / Economics / Re: The Real Reason to Hold Gold And Bitcoin on: May 29, 2017, 10:00:32 PM

Holding bitcoin too long can be risky as we cannot have the same level of confidence that we can have by holding gold as gold exist since long time and in long run its price will be surely go higher but the price of bitcoin can even crash in coming years.

Silver is an even better money than gold, arguably.  In the 1860s and 70s the British elites got most major economies to use the gold standard alone, and to 'demonetize' silver.  (This caused a lot of pain in the US, BTW, but the British got their way.)  The reason was that the Bank of England happened to have gold but not silver, and the needs of the global empire (which was British at the time) trumps everything else.

So, over the last 150 years silver has been in the shadow of gold.  It might eventually do well, but many lifetimes have passed with silver down and out.

What if something like that happens this time?  What if the global elites decide to abandon both gold and silver but promote Bitcoin?  (There are good reasons for them to do that, BTW.)

Buying Bitcoin in addition to gold is thus good insurance policy, especially when the price of Bitcoin is still a tiny fraction of gold, for the same proportion of total supply.

I agree, and it is always good to diversify our investment.  We should not rely in a single investment because if that investment crashed, there goes all our money.  So investing both in gold, silver, and other stocks plus bitcoin is better than just investing in Bitcoin or in gold alone.
1457  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin reduces unemployment on: May 29, 2017, 09:11:30 PM
No..
Bitcoin does nothing to reduce unemployment.

Earning a few cents from a sig campaign or faucet doesn't mean you have a job.
You have no unemployment benefits when the campaign ends , you have no healthcare benefits it adds nothing to your pension fund.

Only a child would consider these jobs.

And in long term bitcoin is supposed to KILL jobs.
Remember?

Moneygram? Western Union?
WU has 7000, MG 3000 not counting all the offices worldwide.

Not to mention all the banks bitcoin was supposed to kill..


Widen your scope pal.  There are freelancing jobs that pay in bitcoin.  It is not only in a signature campaign where one person can earn bitcoin.  If you search this forum you can see some service that actually hires people that have knowledge in programming, marketing, graphic design and much more.  This stuff reduces unemployment.  About the benefits, you can always apply for it voluntarily.
1458  Economy / Economics / Re: A nice pic showcasing why you should hold BTC longterm on: May 29, 2017, 08:27:04 PM
That is quite an inspiring picture to hold Bitcoins.  Though there might be severe ups and downs of bitcoin but it is normal for a young and high volatile digital currency.  I also believe that due to market saturation and people adoption, Bitcoin price will definitely increase in price and we are able to buy Cars and Mansions with our Bitcoin.
1459  Economy / Economics / Re: Can Bitcoin also lead to corruption ? on: May 29, 2017, 07:57:36 PM
I believe anything that has value can lead to corruption.  It depends on the person's morality.  If the person is more aligned in doing evil things no matter what he is using, greed will take over and thus make the person minds corrupt.  Aside from that since the nature of bitcoin is pseudo-anonymous plus the mixer service, officials can be tempted to accept bitcoin as a bribe.
1460  Economy / Speculation / Re: Reason of increasing bitcoin price on: May 29, 2017, 07:11:42 PM
Perhaps the reason is that many require bitcoin so that prices always go up and in the market prices start to increase.
That is probably the main reason, the market always fluctuate according to the rule of supply - demand, when demand increases, the price will increase. But then the market will be unstable. The market is only stable when supply by demand. If you watch btc in the past period you will understand. After experiencing a significant price increase btc has fallen. The current market is stable and will remain to be maintained until a new factor make btc's prices fluctuate.

I agree the current influx of demand is the acceptance of wealthy nations like Japan, Australia, and Russia to Bitcoin.  They give way for their companies to invest in bitcoin and start a business with bitcoin.  Aside from that the current update and light about scaling problem are also the reason why people demands Bitcoin.
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