No, it means that if you expect X returns within Y amount of days, you should not be an investor.

What exactly is "dividends due"?

Why should I care about those whose attention span is less than 2 weeks?

This is a business. Dividends will be issued when the company is in the right position to do so. We would not have 60PH worth of wafers if dividends were given out.

And bitfountain owns more than 50% of the shares so yes they can do whatever they want. Not that they have or would ever do anything to deliberately hurt shareholders.

Please point me to where you discovered that AM is running this immersion project.

CBCM is not only a startup, its a shitty overpriced startup. Anyone who took a look at the revenue forecast would know it's garbage.

Does it matter? AM has already reached a positive ROI.

Are there any other bitcoin investments which were able to turn $2 million in to $20 million within a few months?

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I highly doubt anyone will take advice from someone who invested in cbcm.

Got a source for that? I've never heard of such claims.

Novec extinguishers are supposed to boil and release a shit ton of vapor so I can't imagine they would use it if it was toxic.

Not to mention that the vapor leakage would be so small in any decent immersion system that it would be neglegable even if it was moderately toxic (which it's not as far as I know)

If novec was so toxic how do you explain Allied Controls DC which can be visited without the need for gas masks? They use an open bath system so vapor is constantly leaking in to the air. And iirc their offices are connected to the DC so they are practically living in the vapor.

Also if cavitation is such an issue how do you explain Allied Controls system which ran smoothely for 6+ months?

Not sure what that answers. If it is used in fire extinguishers the vapor can't be harmful.

I've never heard anyone claim the vapor is dangerous let alone lethal.

How so? Novec fluid has very low toxicity and is nonflamable (even used in fire extinguishers).

I've also never heard of cavitation being a problem. Got a source for that?

Also any progress on the pacific 2000? Shipping date? Power consumption at the wall?

Meh that's a bit misleading.

Regardless, those stats are just averages and there are people with residential costs below $0.1/kwh and even more people who have access to commercial/industrial rates lower than $0.1/kwh.

That's what I was looking at. Are those not the actual rates per kwh?

I don't think he is a rare exception. Anyone willing to throw down $10k+ on hardware should have no problem upgrading their home circuit.


Yes, but with rockminer devices you have the option to share an outlet with other appliances.


Shipping in america is flat rate and shipping from china to america can be as low as $6/kg via fedex someone said.

Source?

You are limited to 1 and only 1 sp30 at home where as there are many different ways you could max out your home circuit using rockminers.

Besides 3TH/s today is worth 6TH/s in 3 months.


Not all europeans have high electricity costs and I'm sure you know that. Sorry for those of you who do, but mining is simply not for you.(long term at least).


You could always sell your equipment to someone with lower electricity costs and buy more efficient in stock hardware when you need to upgrade.


6TH is useless compared to a 5PH immersion cooled monster from xbtec.

Anyways close to useless is still not useless. Keep in mind there are a few people who found blocks on their 0.33gh/s BE usb miners.

I think you know that most of the sp30s will end up in datacenters where as a large portion of rockminers will end up in homes.

But 6TH is an arbitrary number which spondoolies decided would be ideal but is actually inefficient because you need to pay for hosting.

If you need to pay someone for hosting, you are losing money. As much as you might really want 6TH-20TH worth of equiptment, it is simply inefficient unless you can host it yourself.

Rockminer gives those with an electricity cap as low as ~200w a chance to mine while keeping a competative $/gh. Spreading the hashrate instead of shoving it all in to datacenters.

No it's not an unfair bet because many pay less than $0.1/kwh for home electricity but almost nobody pays less than $0.15/kwh for DC hosting.


Normal miners have 50-2000w worth of hardware.

Big mining operations (50kw+) will not care about weight(shipping pallets is cheap) and they won't care 50% efficiency since they pay less than $0.05/kwh.

Sp30s are for those miners who are somewhere inbetween which is inefficient because you need to pay someone to host them.

Does that mean paying with anything not denominated in dollars is fraud?

I don't need to buy 6TH/s to know how much it could earn.

I don't care when you will get your miner because that is irrelevant.  All that matters is when the machines you are trying to sell will ship.

I am willing to bet that rxboxes delivered in 2 weeks at $0.1/kwh will break even before sp30s delivered in 3 months at $0.15/kwh break even.

Yes but you don't have hardware in hand, you have a promise.



And when you ROI before sp30's ordered today begin shipping, you can just sell your rockminer hardware and buy some in stock hardware that is cheaper and more efficient than the sp30.


KNC has demonstrated more than any company that they can take chips fresh out the fab, put them in miners, and get them out the door ASAP.

Still I expect it to take 1-2 months before neptunes ship after receiving chips.

What makes you think spondoolies is so much better than every asic manufacturer that they can go from receiving chips to shipping products in half a month?

They have demonstrated absolutely zero ability to do this considering they never started selling sp10 until they had a working unit.

Would you gamble $5,000 on satoshi dice? If not then why preorder hardware? (it's probably riskier with much less reward)

You could always buy 6th/s worth of rockminer hardware for less than you could buy an sp30 preorder now. (shipping in 2 weeks vs 3+ months)

But if gambling is fun for you I would not recommend it.