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1501  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $0.49/GH/s on: September 07, 2014, 08:45:16 PM
Whats the deal about all the deleting of posts? Is there a purpose for that?

Its the only way they can censor the thread LDO!!!!
1502  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: What can I use Bitcoin miners for other than mining? on: September 07, 2014, 02:26:56 PM
Just submerge them in mineral oil, pump and heat exchanger to the water heater and you are done.  Not only are you done but you've extended the payback of your miner because now it heats your water (which you are paying for anyway)  and mines coin.

Like... drop the whole miner in mineral oil?  LOL WHAT?   Or set a cooling system to use mineral oil within the tubes to the chips and out?



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OpjknGXZAE

That looks like a GPU setup.

It is but the hardware is irrelevant the point is immersion cooling is not LOL WHAT...  If you can stick a couple of GPUs in it you can jam a couple of PCBs with SHA256 ASICs on them in it.

Mineral oil is just one option.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pNSUKp8ov4
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=255613.0
1503  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: What can I use Bitcoin miners for other than mining? on: September 06, 2014, 09:34:45 PM
Just submerge them in mineral oil, pump and heat exchanger to the water heater and you are done.  Not only are you done but you've extended the payback of your miner because now it heats your water (which you are paying for anyway)  and mines coin.

Like... drop the whole miner in mineral oil?  LOL WHAT?   Or set a cooling system to use mineral oil within the tubes to the chips and out?



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OpjknGXZAE
1504  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: AMT fucks us over again on: September 06, 2014, 09:11:46 PM
ANTHONY SERRATA LIVES AT:

<censored>

IF ANYONE HAS A PROBLEM WITH HIM OR HIS BEHAVIOR, PLEASE CONTACT HIM THERE.

Shit like this is what why you keep making things worse for yourself.

Is goxxing allowed on this forum? Can't retard Josh Zipkin get a ban for this stunt?

Josh already fully doxxed Clenell months ago.  He posted an audio of a voice mail with Lenells fucking phone number in it...

Manufacture getting a ban, not in Deadwood bro, the cesspool needs the shit to keep it alive!!!
1505  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: AMT fucks us over again on: September 06, 2014, 08:44:50 PM
Alright.

This is starting to piss us off. Let's spin it a little bit shall we.

ANTHONY SERRATA IS OPEIUM2.  ANTHONY SERRATA WAS AN AMT SHILL. FLATOUT.    

IF ANYONE HAS A PROBLEM WITH ANTHONY'S BEHAVIOR, THAT'S WHERE YOU CAN SPEAK WITH HIM IN PERSON.

ANTHONY SERRATA IS A SYSTEM ADMINISTRATOR FOR VMWARE. HE IS CREDIBLE, INTELLIGENT, AND A VERY TRUSTWORTHY INDIVIDUAL WITH A PRETTY GOOD REPUTATION WHICH MADE A VERY VERY GOOD AMT SHILL. ANTHONY HAS ALSO BEEN SUBCONTRACTED BY SOME VERY HIGH LEVEL INDIVIDUALS ASSOCIATED WITH THE GOVERNMENT IN HIS PAST.  

FURTHERMORE.

THESE CHATS ARE BULLSHIT, THEY ARE FILLED WITH SO MUCH CRAP THAT IT HONESTLY CAN'T BE TRUE EVEN IF IT WAS SAID. SO EITHER AMT LIED TO ANTHONY FOR MANY MANY MONTHS OR ANTHONY HAPPENS TO LIVE ON THIS FUCKING FORUM AND HAS A WIDE RANGE OF GENERAL INFORMATION THAT HE ABLE TO PIECE TOGETHER.  ANTHONY IS VERY SMART, AND VERY EXPERIENCED AT WHAT HE DOES. EITHER WAY, NO ONE CARES AND THAT'S THE TRUTH.

ANTHONY (OPEIUM2)'S GOAL IN THE MOMENT, IS TO DIVIDE AND CONQUER. BY POSTING MANIPULATIVE SHIT OVER AND OVER AGAIN IN AN ATTEMPT TO PUSH AWAY ANY HELP WE COULD GET FROM ANYONE. NO ONE LIKES TO BE DRAGGED INTO SOMEONE ELSE'S BULLSHIT AND THAT'S WHAT HE'S TRYING TO DO NOW.  

WE CAN SAVE HIM THE HASSLE AND LET HIM KNOW AMT OFFICIALLY DOES WORK WITH BLACKARROW OR TECHNOBIT, THAT WAS MADE VERY CLEAR SEVERAL MONTHS AGO.

ANTHONY IS JUST A CLIENT. 1 CLIENT OF MANY. HE ORDERED 2 MINERS IN FEBRUARY AND HE HAS RECEIVED THEM WITH POWER SUPPLIES MIND YOU. HE STARTED POSTING A VERY VERY NICE THREAD ABOUT HOW OUR MINER WHICH WAS DUE TO BE A VERY NICE REVIEW FOR EVERYONE TO SEE. THEN HE PULLED A 180 AND DIDN'T WANT TO BE OUR SHILL ANYMORE.

ANTHONY SERRATA ALSO RECEIVED CLOUD HASHING FROM AMT FOR SEVERAL WEEKS PRIOR TO RECEIVING HIS MINERS. OTHER CLIENTS DID NOT GET THAT LUXURY. ANTHONY JUMPED THE LIST IN HIS DELIVERY BECAUSE AMT BELIEVED HE WAS A NICE HELPFUL PERSON AND PUT IN THE TIME TO HELP US HERE ON THIS FORUM. AS YOU ALL ALREADY KNOW. WE BELIEVED HE WAS A GOOD AND HONEST MAN. HE IS NOT.

ANTHONY IS VERY GOOD AT WRITING CLOUD INFRASTRUCTURES, AND SEVERAL MONTHS AGO WAS VERY INTERESTED IN CREATING A CLOUD ENVIRONMENT FOR HASHING, ONE WHERE YOU COULD MANIPULATE THE HASHRATE OF THE USER AND OFFER DAILY PAYOUTS TO THEM DIRECTLY WHILE COLLECTING THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE POOLS ACTUAL PAYOUT. ONE COULD WONDER WHAT COMPANY DOES THAT NOW??- WHICH COMPANY IS KIND OF NEW AND OFFERS THAT SAME SERVICE NOW. ANTHONY WANTED TO USE AMAZON S3 CLOUD SERVICES FOR THIS INFRASTRUCTURE, MOST OF YOU CAN FIGURE OUT WHICH COMPANY IT IS FROM THAT ONE.    

JUST FOR THE FUCK OF IT,  WE ARE NOW GOING TO PRESS LEGAL CHARGES AGAINST ANTHONY. THAT'S ALL WE CAN DO AS A COMPANY RIGHT? NEXT WEEK, OR HOW EVER LONG IT TAKES FOR THESE TO BE DRAFTED, WE WILL PUBLISH THEM HERE AND EVERY WHERE ELSE WE CAN. WE HAVE SIMILAR PAPERS DRAFTED FOR LENELL WHICH WE PLAN TO SERVE HIM AFTER THE MOTION FOR THE CLASS ACTION IS GRANTED OR NOT, SO EDITING THEM WONT BE TOO HARD.

ANTHONY HAS THE WRONG IMPRESSION OF WHAT AMT IS AND WHERE AMT IS AT. SOMEONE THAT ANTHONY THOUGHT WAS VERY DEPENDABLE, BETRAYED HIM AND GAVE AMT A BIT OF INFO WAY BACK IN JUNE.

WE ARE ALREADY BEING SUED 6 WAYS TO SUNDAY, SO FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE IT REALLY DOESN'T MATTER ANYMORE. SO IF PEOPLE LIKE ANTHONY SERRATA AND CRAIG LENELL WANT TO KEEP ON PUSHING AMT, THE NOTORIOUS AMT IS GOING TO START PUSHING BACK.

PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT TONY (AS HE PREFERS) OR OPEIUM2 WHICH IS HIS USER NAME HERE ON BITCOINTALK.ORG, WAS A SHILL FOR AMT, HIS JOB WAS TO BE A VERY NICE AND A VERY HELPFUL FORUM MEMBER IN OUR FAVOR.  ENCOURAGE USERS TO BELIEVE IN AMT AND FIGHT BACK AGAINST SHILLS LIKE PHIN, SIRMINESALOT AND OTHERS. TONY SPENT SEVERAL HOURS EVERY DAY MONITORING OUR FORUM AND HELPING US BRING IN MANY NEW SALES. TONY WROTE MANY MANY LONG INTERESTING POSTS THAT DID FIGHT OFF PHIN AND SEVERAL OTHER TROLLS AS WELL. THEY WERE ELABORATE AND CREATED IN A WAY TO MAKE USERS BELIEVE IN US AND HE DID A GREAT FUCKING JOB AT IT. BUT THAT WAS NOT ALWAYS TONY'S PLAN FROM THE BEGINNING. Wink

WE ARE NO LONGER GOING TO SIT BACK AND LET PEOPLE LIKE TONY CONSTANTLY SCREW WITH US ON AND OFF THIS FORUM. WE ARE NOT CRIMINALS, AND WE PLAN TO REFUND EVERY CLIENT IN DUE TIME. ANTHONY WILL RECEIVE HIS REFUND AS WELL, BUT HE'LL SPEND IT FIGHTING US IN COURT IF HE CONTINUES.

HE WILL NOW RETALIATE AND CONTINUE TO POST MORE CRAP. SCREENSHOTS, WALLET INFO AND THEORIES ABOUT CRAP THAT NO ONE CARES ABOUT. WHEN WE DRAFT THIS SUIT WE WILL PUBLISH IT HERE FOR EVERYONE TO SEE. IF ANTHONY CHOOSES TO STOP HIS BEHAVIOR ON AND OFF THIS FORUM, WE WILL RETRACT THE LAWSUIT AND NOT CONTINUE TO TRIAL. IT IS HIS CHOICE ABOUT HOW HE WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE.

I've had shits that are smarter than you fucking ass clowns.

Josh Zipkin Scammer CEO of AMT Miners you forgot to threaten everyone with bankruptcy again you fucking moron.
1506  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: AMT users thread. on: August 31, 2014, 02:28:20 AM
AMT_MINERS,

order number 645 and 962, I already sent you email regarding my order refund.

every time you said sent email to sales@ emails someone will get back in 24 hours,nobody reply to me at all.

please reply here or email me back regarding my refund, when you will refund. you can not just keep quiet and do nothing, I need my money for my new baby.

Thank you,
Tony

Might as well throw this up here now I'm pretty sure as soon as tanned and rested Josh Zipkin scammer at AMT is back online it's not going to stay in the main thread long!

Josh Zipkin the scammer from AMT is enjoying a lovely vacation at the moment thanks to your investment and you falling victim to his scam company AMT miners.

It's hard work to monumentally fuck your earliest investomers, please give him a break, it's reportedly very hot in Shenzhen at the moment and clearly he needs YOUR money far more than you do for some well deserved R&R.

Dude... Josh Zipkin Scammer at AMT is not wilfully giving you jack fucking shit back, that scamming piece of shit Josh Zipkin fucked you hard.
1507  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Hashra moonraker on: August 30, 2014, 02:36:11 AM
Pre-orers is not a serious business IMHO. When someone need money to create some product it's better for his  image to find an investor(s).... But their greed makes them looking to us, their potential customers...

Pre-orders wouldn't be so bad if the equation wasn't so skewed...

If I take a risk by 'investing' in a pre-order, then I expect a decent reward. Sadly this never happens, all the rewards go to the vendor and we inevitably get nothing, hardware late or under spec.

That said I like the price point on these machines, so if you start selling from stock will likely get some.

That's called being an investomer, you take ALL the risk of the investor and receive ONLY the rewards of a customer.  

Simply put, you can't get in a worse position when looking for profit.  The extreme lack of the simplest investing fundamentals in this community is absolutely unbelievable LOL.
1508  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: AMT users thread. on: August 24, 2014, 09:38:16 PM
Holy hell, it really does sound like a damn vacuum cleaner,my wife will not be pleased.


Tell her how much money the scammers at AMT cost you and she'll probably forget about the jet engine noise   Sad
1509  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: AMT users thread. on: August 22, 2014, 12:56:31 PM
what is AMT's latest address?

Currently located at the corner of Go Fuck Yourself Dr and Scammers Lane
1510  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: AMT users thread. on: August 22, 2014, 10:56:11 AM
Hi Scammers

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Klondike bar,

Mr.Teal has left us negative feedback. The reason we did not continue with the auction because it seemed you didn't want to go forward with the purchase based on the shipping fee. We could not find anything cheaper.

We most likely wont be doing auctions again, as we're a bit concerned with the escrow factor and usually we sell off this forum.

Eitherway, if you'd like we can still honor the terms of the auction and your winning bid. Eitherway, please get back to us with some resolution.

This is our attempt at making a resolution with you regarding that auction.

Thank you and hopefully we can still do business together.

All the best

AMT.

You have got to be kidding me -its been about 2 weeks that you have been 'selfish mining' (to borrow a BFL phrase) with my hardware and you now want to sell it to me for the price it was worth back then?

want to buy my antminer s1 for 4.75btc? That's a steal if you considering that was the price I paid when I won the batch 1 auction that bitmain operated and followed through on.

Would you be willing to knock 30% off my winning bids to compensate for the difficulty change since the auction ended?
Yes we understand that escrow can be a scary thing for a scammer.  I thought you didn't care about this forum or selling on it?

It appears to me as though AMT hasn't really grasped the concept of difficulty yet.  They apparently think that delivering $1000 miners to customers who paid $6000 for them months ago makes them the bees knees!

Missing PSU's, rusted metal in box and crooked name plates, bent connectors, all at no extra charge!

Lets not forget the GPL violations but hell everyone is doing it so lets not hack on AMT for that...
1511  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [GUIDE] Bicknellski's Bias & Opinionated Miner Sellers Trustworthiness Guide on: August 21, 2014, 12:55:50 AM
Maybe you should concentrate on wasp rather than proving than no one will ever be happy with any answer anyone comes up with, even one as basic as good or bad.
A little competition never hurt anyone.

I am not in competition with his version.

I am posting this as a guide to people who may not want to spend an inordinate time reading all the reasons why he arrived at a score and then ignore the consumers who have complained about company X or Y. Let me make it brutally clear that this is a biased guide that is CONSUMER CENTRIC not MANUFACTURER CENTRIC unlike his guide.  

Again it is always on the consumer to make the choice. I hope what I provide is the starting point for people to make a better informed decision. I don't know anyone with any time spent in these forums that is going to complain much about this "system" because I am willing to actually listen to people if they have concerns about my ratings and change them. Unlike those that think they have a system without bias or a personal skew. Don't take my word for it. Just go read his thread... plenty of justifiable complaints there.



Shut up Dicknellski.

Your Biostar scam didn't work why are you back on this account?  Why don't you fuck off you useless bag of shit.
1512  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: AMT users thread. on: August 19, 2014, 11:34:11 PM
Which is why I posted it here. Unlike other people I will at least own up. <.< not naming names.

I think the community in general appreciates you owning up and confirming the authenticity of the logs.  While there was certainly a decent amount of evidence already it adds some weight with your confirmation.  I don't think anyone following this storm doubted for a second you were one of the customers but it is nice to have confirmation.

The reason I quoted it was simply to safe guard it.  Imagine for a minute you get a PM offering to ship you 5x your order tomorrow if you just remove one little post.  Now I don't know you so I'm not question your integrity, I will assume you would reject such an offer but hell I'll take a little insurance if I can get since I don't know you from Adam.

No offence intended mate, honestly.
1513  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: AMT users thread. on: August 19, 2014, 11:15:09 PM
Fuck me! Josh Zipkin has left the forum.


"Joshua Zipkin...come out to play-ee-ay!!"

That picture is fucking creepy...like Harry Potter on weed with no glasses and cooking meth...with an immense noggin...something incredibly creepy about that pic.

Besides the jokes I do feel the need to confirm now that those chats are indeed myself as customer1, I am not in agreement with the chats being released in this manner, but it is what it is. I will let the others out themselves should they choose to as right now people can only guess who they are. The chats are 100 percent authentic skype chats. The leaker is someone else who was not a customer but got pissed off seeing the stuff that was happening. I was accused however of being the leaker despite the actual leaker confessing before leaving the chat, so I figure I will set the record straight publicly. Make of that what you will. I still appreciate his attempts to preserve the privacy of the group.

I still have no order and various calls to DHL confirm that my order was not any of the tracking numbers sent out. You can take a guess as to what list I am on. Go on have your fun now rubbing it in. The I told you so's lol. At any rate they pretty much screwed everyone and its pretty evident in the chats the real deal. I had it out with him tonight because he assured me my miner was on its way.

Don't want this little gem going anywhere...
1514  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Most will never make a profit mining if BTC stays under $650 for long on: August 17, 2014, 03:58:55 AM
As a straight up investment, the risk reward ratio of mining for profit is sooooooooooooooooooo far out of whack it isn't even funny.

The profit is in making, selling AND using the shovels, (the old trifecta)

If boiled down, you can look at mining as a gamble against difficulty increase.  I don't believe many smart investors would be willing to take that bet right now.
1515  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL announces monarch shipping on: August 16, 2014, 03:24:03 AM
As a reward for customers' patience and loyalty, we are adjusting the price of the 700 GH/s boards to $1,379 (ONLY $1.97/GH)



To be fair $1.97/gh/s is a great deal considering...  the competition is at least $17.50/gh and 2.5w/gh

Kinda hard to believe that horse shit is still up there, Jesus Christ they have balls.

http://www.butterflylabs.com/monarch/
1516  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: New Official AMT Thread on: August 15, 2014, 03:40:42 AM

Kudos to you!  You are now generating .03 BTC ($16) per day for yourself. 

Do the math sir, you still got screwed - as will any other AMT customer. 

Geez, when will people learn?!?!?!! 

No need to worry, AMT cares so much about customers ROI they gave out the MPP.  Knowing how stand up AMT has been I'm sure the 5+ th/s customers will need to ROI is being shipped very soon. Grin Grin Grin Grin
1517  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: AMT users thread. on: August 13, 2014, 12:52:58 PM
This is going to get deleted from the other thread so I'll post it here as well.

...while build and sell and ship miners on the next thread over.

You mean like how well you did in this next thread over.  Good job guys, another AMT home run!!!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=723233.0
1518  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: New Official AMT Thread on: August 13, 2014, 12:51:25 PM
...while build and sell and ship miners on the next thread over.

You mean like how well you did in this next thread over.  Good job guys, another AMT home run!!!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=723233.0
1519  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $0.49/GH/s on: August 13, 2014, 12:24:14 PM
Got my X-1 2 Weeks ago. Allready sold it  Grin
I guess PT Barnum was correct.
?? What's "PT Barnum" ?? Correct with what ??

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/There's_a_sucker_born_every_minute
1520  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: AMT users thread. on: August 12, 2014, 03:39:54 AM
My pool is still sitting at a lonely zero. Though josh said it would be back on within a couple of hours since they moved it to the other side of the data center. That was days ago.

AMT just can't quite seem to make miners move.  Across a room might as well be halfway across the planet for AMT...
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